From your phone to ghosts and government cover. Ups histories, riddled with unexplained events, you can turn back now or learn the stuff. They don't want you to know that a military, something interesting with this open up our by gas rhetoric, no go with me on this. In a world with less than one percent. The human population controls the futures, fates and the destiny of the entire human rakes. What can one man do That's, like my film in true annoys me. I like it and I'm trying to figure out who will play the protagonists in this movie about somebody fighting the topic of today's podcast, the Illuminati. Oh man Nicholas, cage nickel gauge, no not about thick ass. He could go weird with it if any. If he had to, I feel like

to go weird was stuff anyhow welcome to the pie cast. My name is Ben Bowling. Oh my name is met Frederick and today we are here to talk a little bit about the Illuminati by far one of the most prevalent conspiracy theories ever really the Bee Illuminati, is something that we have covered extensively in our video show. I guess we have three report series other we officially have three, but there is a fourth technical one on the Illuminati in the music industry that you can find. Yes, great point that, and our series on Illuminati covers a couple of things that we won't rehash too much here. It covers the What we know about the founding of the historical Illuminati, it covers the rumours

juncture about some sort of secret past, would goes to the Illuminati in the modern day right who that might be, and in it as some questions about the future. Now the music industry, one with a it, was prize to me, how prevalent that belief is, but let's just start with the fact we'll get where to get crazy with it as we go on, but let's start with the facts, Matt the historical Illuminati. So we do know there's a man named Adam. Why shot, who seventeen seventy six founded a secret society called the Illuminati and It's real! You can look it up! He's real and what now The question is how much for did that society grow, did it becomes something bigger or was it a part of some? much older bright agenda. This is where the conspiracy theories start to come in, yet trysting side know his name in the order was allegedly brothers Spartacus night

so, what abroad Spartacus? I have to do with any of the Rumours about the Illuminati when he started a very chapter There was also this rumour that he in a way encourage them. The Illuminati was actually secret society that was thousands of years old ended. This society was secretly again guiding humanity toward toward something or another, but we can fast forward passed a lot of this, because a lot of those claims are explored nor video series. What women to talk about today is first, if there is- something like the Illuminati and it can be proven to exist because that's the thing, that's the thing that makes sense and people believe in the Illuminati bump heads often is idea or at first the most difficult you ve part of something like this right would be well. If there

one group of people that are somehow controlling the world. Then how can it be a secret? How can there be absolutely no proof and one of the conspiratorial responses to that would be. That has proved so good. They are. The proof is that it's not there. I can see Nicholas Cage Sane outlined a her head, but the m, but we we, I found some interesting things that might change people's money. Here's where here's where it gets weird, so we know that we know there's not me at this point any hard proof that DE the Illuminati as their explored in a lot of conspiracy theories, reliable turn of history. We know, there's no solid, universally agreed on proof that this group exist in the modern age, but what we can prove is that there are a lot of extremely wealthy, extremely powerful groups that exist. In particular. Now those groups are a lot of times

operations, regions, control blanks, you leave some kind of corporate entity right, but it could so be some sort of religious entity or religious affiliated, religiously affiliated entity. Absolutely, for instance, the the Catholic Church has opus Dei are Of course. Numerous incidents were examples, rather in history of of groups that rose too. I know power level and were able, at some point history to exert control over something behind the curtain, like p too, in ITALY right propagate do, which was an offshoot of the Freemasons, but thing is one woman hawk about this there a couple ways to look at it. First is it? Is it disappointing, or we throw in cold water on the idea of because what we are proposing is that

secret societies have existed or secretive, at least, and they continue to wield some sort of influence. Over span a time, but maybe not for all of human history, or we can look at it. The second way, which I think is the more realistic and frankly more frightening way, which is that there is not one group of people controlling the world effectively. There are multiple groups of people attempt to control the world we leads. Inevitably too horrible horrible things there. The conflict gets. Let's say ratcheted up when when the stakes are world control right or we will know, for instance, that it's funny there's a great article in straight dope, where the the guy at St Dope Cecil Adams, someone ten. If there's any the stories about secret societies like the Illuminati, the builder council, on foreign relations, trailer,

commission so on, and he who's in his response? He says you know what is crazy, a secretive group that does wheeled a lot of imports, it s a year. Exactly rose yeah. Well, you hit the nail on the head, my friend, because think about it. The USA does have some of the sea Powers often ascribed to the Illuminati, but also new, it's it's we're because its human nature. Humans are gregarious and cooperative and more than the sum of their part, so of course, human society, people with for will attempt to pool their powers to gain more influence on and at this point again it really depends on where you fall in order, the priorities of the critical thinking exercise. Is it to you is the lack of proof of the coral broken spirit

royal illuminati? Is that lack of proof proof in its of itself? the claim of a single secret society. So extraordinary that wires amazing, watertight evidence. It sounds It sounds as though to me of athletes. I'm gonna, take it from me: conspiratorial stamp. Ok, yeah! sounds to me as though the Illuminati of some kind, or at least the word, is kind of a smokescreen for these other very powerful groups. It's almost there. The thing that you look at instead of the real thing: Oh, I see ok, so in in its also kind of you think the convent misdirection and are also saying pointing out that, functions as an umbrella term of stock of sorts right near a straw man in a way yeah yeah. Maybe that is to the detriment of people do deserve to know more about

grid of meetings that can affect the course of history or life is an individual one. One thing: if we look at Lake Van Diagram, one thing that all secret society conspiracy theories have in common is that believe the goal of the society is somehow too remove autonomy or agents or serenity from nation states or individuals, and that's. It that's an understandable thing and I am putting in a very base level, but me calling something Illuminati is is oversimplifying, maybe sensationalize a little bit, but in future episodes when we for some of those other groups we just name drop going to see that there can be serving grains of truth in it. These claims know we're not seen these people are necessarily have

up tile, half human creatures with some strange blood oath to I don't know, make everybody liked two and a half men or something legal the tv show. I have no idea but what the goal The ascribed goals in the specifics, my point being, they can vary widely, and can also very well they can vary widely in terms of content, but they can also vary widely. In turn, of plausibility, one ok so agreed what one of the things that we have found. Is that one of the best ways to exert control is by controlling money, currency, sure, yes, and also like you said, with religion controlling what why a mass of people believe is its highly important. If you want to control the world, but going back to the money sorry gone. They are nowhere near we theirs. Rate. Forbes article there we ve been looking at it's kind of old as from two thousand and eleven, but

entitled the one hundred and forty seven companies that control everything and it's a study that was done by these Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich and it's one of them, one of the best. Micro, reads that I've done in oil d actual study, which you can find a few search for this online, theirs link inside this Forbes article to the actual study in the big model in everything and explain to their findings, so what they did the study essentially, is that they they looked at forty three thousand and sixty transnational corporations, and then they started connecting the dots, the share ownership dots here and there found. The based on a model, there's kind of a Ty shape and they they found a dominant core right of these Investment companies that have stakes in each other and stakes somehow

into about forty percent of the wealth. In this network of forty three thousand huge corporations and. You look at the numbers, it's it's! stressing seventy seven Han Thirty seven companies, I believe, control eighty percent of that global wealth and in this way What strange with this is that some the individuals in these companies, may be serving on multiple boards. And it's also it's also stressing and surprising to think that giving just the size of the world economy that the wealth will be concentrated so much in a hunter forty seven companies now, the top ones are going to your point, the tea, ones our financial and interest rate like Barclays is number one. At least it was at the time

at the time of this article and some or might be listening to us right now. Men seeing you guys are exaggerating or that's that doesn't simply mean that they have great control over the world economy where you guys are chills further corporations right or Yasser Schiller, civically radiates yeah, but we're if we're just looking at some of them. Your. We do know that these we do know that people have rejected this study, most notably a guy named Eric Savitz who he was riding with Forbes. He wrote a rhetorical claiming that these companies in the top fifty list there just investment companies. They are operating so that means that maybe there putting their money in a lot of different pies, so that It can diversify, remains stable. Now, fruit from I personally, this

still disturbing that there would be that kind of inequality of control. But I do That's a fair point, because you the money that these companies is not necessarily money that they are directly managing right. Yeah, that's true, I too indices alot of this money. So I got like mutual funds, exactly headphones mutual funds, all that kind of stuff. So then, but then, another Forbes writer Brennan Kofi after who wrote that article. I think it was Savitz year except it's ok. So then it's a great to kind of red through these articles and force of the different writers colluding words at each other. So then the southern overrunning, kofi right he's a contributor blue eye does say on here that he works for someone else now. So I don't know what that means. As for in writing this article, but anyway he says there actually for companies in

This massive list that was outlined in the one hundred forty seven companies they actually do exert a certain amount of control, because he said all that money. A lot of money is controlled by the indices. There's five percent, That is not, that is that can be directly manipulated and it is by these for companies that actually have an ability to to influence this money, who Mcgraw Hill Northwest mutual CMU Group and Barclays because Barclays This Lehman brothers if there are lemon aggregate bond index so that because most people need states probably associate Mcgraw Hill with textbooks yeah. That's that's exactly what I do when I really weird. I imagined ease textbooks publishers. Maybe that's just not reside hustle my own standard and pours ah Yeager them. And so they own some of the indices exactly and

That's interesting because, let's think about the numbers here, we went from over forty three thousand transnational corporations to seven hundred and thirty seven. They control eighty percent global wealth in some way to one forty seven and forty percent of it too for companies that some sort of influence over those other hundred. Forty seven yet over five percent of the actively managed fund and this this is interesting because at this all the money at this level is amazing and going back to going to your statement, which I totally agree with about the way to influence society directly or indirectly through finance. It reminds me of, was it all rushed raw? child attributed, will raise Gimme control of the nation's money supply. I'm phrasing, but it was something like Gimme Control, the nations money supply and I don't care who is in office here and

is. It opinion whether or not there is is an actual statement. The guy made, because Rothschild family members are often misquoted whether or not he actually said that. I think that is profound point, then it's an absolutely true point. Controlling the money supply is away. Who control show much more and dumb as well hoarding this we adjust recorded a couple of on the gold standard, which was an illuminating experience for us, and we hope that you check out video here no met. I got I ask you in Future when we cover others, societies which one of the first ones you wanna take a crack at our audio. I would like to hit scorn bones sincerely for the year two thousand for election. Ah, yes, skull and bones is sick,

if a leak, collegiate organization and so probably most critically greatly desired or nice an end in two thousand for election inmates, weird waves in the media, because both the both candidates for President Democrat M Republican were members of the Skull Bones organization in college and it's a l and also a part of their terms, they refuse to speak about it, yes, both of whom her few speak about will, because secret society come on here, but if you also avoid, if you want to avoid speculation, if its liking Hitchcock movies, know where they are one of the masterful things offered Hitchcock did. Is he never really showed the monster on screen all the time right? So the monster that you create in your mind, with a lack of sort of evidence is. Is they tend to be tat terrifying, so human kind of like the Illuminati kind of

Illuminati nice way to bring it back, and maybe that's why people have said, but what's I'd like to end this episode with naming some of the craziest things we ve heard about the Illuminati like crazies theories and then inviting our listeners to respond and do the same. Ok, that's on screen right, you make your first year, you go first, you gotta get one, I'm sure. Well, I think one of my favorite ones was that the De Illuminati, as we think of it today, has its roots in the brotherhood of the snake, which is an ancient egyptian secret society. Based on aliens that made human beings oh, oh cool termination, alien thing, I add yet another one that I had heard was that the Illuminati attempts to come Ro society through pop music, no done an episode on this, but that its thickly linked to

your ground. Pedophilia rings for some reason, yeah and done. Do you know this is a big dark blue will keep it appropriate for families here that we do know that there have been in the past some, crazy sex scandals alone at tat along those lines with involving powerful people. Think it most, notably about the incidents in Belgium but D, the that proved that there is a huge secret society or does prove that their that powerful people can also just be really twisted messed up. Folks, Private lives. I'd I'd hoped lean towards the latter, but yeah that maybe that's something weakening sworn an audio podcast that some do Kinds of topics allegations were stuff that he can't really spoon a video, because we near weakened

to you tastefully and I wouldn't want to allow in writers theirs integrity there that I wouldn't want to live here that we don't want across a line on by okay. So another crazy thing I heard about the Illuminati, I heard that the Illuminati descended from secret for men. Orders and magic works and that they practice working MAGIC knife now that I have anything to do with bohemian grove in the formation of carers at two completely different o nice the human grove, that's a good one. We have to cover that two bohemian groove, ladies and gentlemen, is a real thing. You ve probably heard of it, but if you haven't done, gotta videos on the bohemian Grove now let's see, let's see man I'd like to return to the Illuminati in future, I ain't We do our series on it, but I thought

there is so much more. We could have explored. So what I'd like proposed for our next recording is that way we touch on Illuminati again, let's go with try to find some really specific instance of alleged Illuminati meddling. What do you say how it sounds great so we're gonna go off and work on that. In the meantime, we hoped guys have enjoyed a little bit of our show notes episode on the Illuminati video series. You can watch the series of self if you go to test tube dot, com, flushed and spirits, he stopped or you two we're still conspiracy stuff there too, and there is a full playlist on you too briefing just click one button and wash the entire thing, and you can check it out on Facebook. You can send us a tweet. Look, you don't trust Facebook are you can drop, is an email directly. We,

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