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blue. Welcome back to the show my name is met. My name is no. They call me Ben your joint, as always with our super producer, Paul mission Control, deck and, most importantly, you are you you are here, and that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know. Today episode comes to us from an email. It comes to us from the right W so Brian listening to every episode, but hope your particularly tuned into this one histories, Brian, you said hey guys I've been Benjy on the show all summer and after listening to the Canada's Roswell episode. I remember that my dad told me about a very famous incident here in Montreal Back and nineteen ninety that he remembered on the local news. So far I have not heard any of your episodes mentioned and Brian. You are correct. My friend fellow conspiracy, realist.

But that is something we are going to correct for ourselves today in this episode Montreal ninety nine There was something weird in the sky, it's true and will will get to the crazy parts of this, but but first, let's, let's start with the facts Montreal. What is it to Canada right. But what else? it's a band. I like that of logical, that's rare, accessory there. Actually entourage are mutual friend in my roommate them and then lifelong POW Frank recently went to Montreal and said it was a delightful cornucopia of delicious foods and arts and very clean and the metric system was very clean and he had a wonderful time. He said it is the second largest city right in Canada least, when you're talking about population which theatrical re it takes up about three fourths

Montreal Island it and it's an older city at least as far as this continent goes, colonial has the dates back into the sixteenth century. It started as a missionary settlement, of course, like every other European based american City. There were plenty people living there beforehand, but any Europeans. Can it be? It becomes a missionary settlement here. There was plenty of money to be made in religion, but they also realise they could make another a ton of money if they got into the fir tree The Montreal became a hub of the fur. Trade trappers would travel to and fro acquiring health and then they returned return there to sell and ship them. As for the care tour of Montreal. As in these of Europe in the modern day. The best way to say it is that if you were travelling to Montreal, Org back in general

from the? U S. The first thing you ll notice is that it is very, very, very french. Ah, yes, again goes back to it history, but also right now we're talking about twenty. Many the majority of materials population are french, Canadian What I done, if I'm french, canadian and while you hear somebody will play in the Montreal, is the second largest french speaking city in the world, of course, after Paris in France, that's a bit of a dodgy stay. Right there, some other places that might actually meet that yet Chaucer Algiers they're both poppy in their own right and there also fraud growing more quickly in terms of birth rate, and maybe well well. Once Montreal was known for exporting fine pelts and furs the late it it's gonna got a reputation for exporting some fine

the combatants such as the Unicorns Arcade fire wolf per day Leonard Cohen, is from Montreal a lot of great bands, TIM Hecker of a more droney kind of a the Besnard lakes, the deers. I was huge in the Montreal music scene back in the late 90s and I still am today very much, but all in all country. All as it is a beautiful place, it's full of history, its full of culture, is considered one of the most Cosmo politician. He came Europe's in cities on the entirety of the north american continent. However, its also known for something else? Oh yes, been like a lot of large metropolitan in cities, There are strange lights in the sky above Montreal, strange lights that may not from any human origin, or maybe some kind of secret government experience

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That's right! Folks. Montreal is not just famous for cap, o clock culture and sport from the nineties. It's not just famous for fourteen and amazing food aids famous for Europe apparently is riddled with ufos, lousy with Europe. Sightings the most one of the most famous which occurred in nineteen ninety. So here's what window our story starts on November. Seventh, that's right November, seventh, nineteen. Ninety multiple witnesses reported seeing a round metallic object, beaming a series of bright lights, brilliant lights here across the fog

Montreal sky. How one witness the first known to have reported this citing said that the object was seen from a rooftop pool on the seventeenth floor of the plus Bonaventure Hotel in downtown launcher a little after seven o clock in the evening, then the game of telephone begins. So this first initial witness there were two people in the pool. The first initial witness tells the lifeguard, or sometimes described as the pull supervisor Lynn Saint Pierre, which sense of this chain reaction. The lifeline calls Albert Sterling outward sterling work for hotels, security Albert Sterling calls the police, the royal Canadian mounted police, R, C m p the horse, you guys and also a journalist from paper known as lacrosse and I, as things go on the military in Canada gets calls NASA down south the you

as way they get calls in this story spreads more and more and more people at primarily at the hotel or around the area gather on the seventeenth floor terrace, as the object appears to brighten at the high the gathering we're looking at around forty two seventy people. Yet it wasn't like it was just a light that was there for a minute when you're talking about all these people gathering in making their way down at his hotel. It's time, there's a lot of time there by the time people arrived. It was still in the sky still shining and I mean you're you're, looking at about three hours from beginning to end roughly spills about seven twenty p m to around ten ten p m and that's one of reasons. This is such an interesting events. Why we are so very glad that this was brought to our attention, because you don't a lot of time have this number of witnesses, and you know how you would care to

Those witnesses depends really on each individual, but there are enough Reliable witnesses there to feel as though the something really happening here, yeah journalist, pilots, police officers were there were some o congressmen is their Congress, member, the journalist Marcel Larouche arrives around nine p m. So this thing has already been happening for almost two hours and he is our primary source for photographs, the most of the most widely circulated. Graphs, you'll, see of the phenomenon and

the way he was able to photograph this. He placed his camera directly toward the sky manual pause for about thirty seconds, and then he just held down the button so again, a bunch of different photographs, the lights. The brightness of the object had decreased. No keep that in mind, because as it slowly decreasing, that is that, isn't it cater for us of of one thing or another and another photo that was taken like if you will make your beer visual expert. How would you? How would you describe this made? the photographs it I have actually seen of this. I saw some the CBC archives anymore, The video on the CBC dossier website here and also got some screen, grabs the you can find online and a couple places. It looks too like.

The way I see the sun like we raise of sunlight bursting through cloud cut, sometimes that that real, distinct re kind of looks like that. A golden Hugh bit of greenish color to it as well, and it's just it's hard to do drive it does look as though there is something kind of hanging out behind some cloud cover right Ray ends. We know that not all the photos taken were of similar quality because of the way the object appeared to be stationary, yes, which is which is hugely important. I other people were saying: we saw six lights, we saw three lights. You know they were dim other attempts to photograph this object other than those of the journal.

Failed due to the low light, so we think Marcel himself took about ten photos. The object grew Julie, melted into the increasingly dense cloud cover and disappear completely around ten fifteen p m. So now we have to ask ourselves what what did it look like mad? I think you did in X. When job describing it we, but we also have to acknowledge the sum of the weird things I witnessed descriptions and the treacherous path of memory, so we know that the accounts have slight variation in things like number of lights, estimated asked and so on, but they largely agreed on in our previous episode with mad scientist. Podcast creator hosts Christopher Cogs. Well, we had a pretty good conversation about her.

People can misinterpret things when their viewing them on the ground right. So that's why it's important to note that we had we had pilots, both in the ground and spoil ruler in the sky, who are able to enjoy under this estimates, currently from a couple of her report say the craft was about five hundred and forty metres wide again. People who if it was a craft and the other thing is kind of what you just said there there estimating how far away it is to give you that general size and just for everyone, not on the metric system. A k, a like Namibia and the United States oh man, five in forty metres is huge lakes. Having teen hundred almost eighteen hundred feet. So well,

This was what would have been enormous if it were a physical craft again, and if it you know, if they're getting that distance, the belief the believed distance, correct about how large a is because it sounds like it dang mothership you guys re Ray in order an arc travelling through space right. In the other thing to one on urban or the number of lights there were seen, because you know it was a bit married, but somewhere between eight and ten, stinguished, all different lights were seen. There were attached in some way to this craft, at least as it was told, yeah yeah exactly at night, they couldn't depended on angle. Because again we have to remember that of the multiple MRS who were cited in more of the contemporary reports, the magician

thirty of them were on this terrace, meaning that through all for all practical per, MRS they were looking at it from these same angle and when you have people looking at something the same angle, you lose valuable perspective so as to bring us up here are violated, this see me see video functioning again and some of the images and there there are. They actually go to the journalist place of work who took those photos, women speaking about and there's one pulled up here- that is, similar to the one that you I've been in the outline has a screen shot of one of these images and so fairly low resolution video they were looking at here, but the way These alight rays are going through that cloud cover. I just I just have to say like trying to figure out how far away ever it is. Is

Yes, it is a conventional, difficult, essential late and I would just like to dots, there are these radiating points that get tee diplomat it's really hard to gauge like how close would it have to be for those radiations to be there close. So so. The great thing that we have here is, as you teased earlier, a witness who was actually in the air right. Yeah, that's correct! So while this was going again, it was therefore almost three hours for only two hours and fifty minutes while is going, there was a private Cessna aircraft and these are Cessna for tiny planes. Comparatively and another very weird, spoiler. It turns out there hard defined would follow up on that much later, so this I loved, but by his aircraft, is passing near these like beams and. It doesn't run into anything. It flies

the sky uninterrupted, thank goodness right and this led police to say well, ok, the! Whenever this thing is this object, It is much higher in elevation than we thought and saw. The journalist says: ok, the owl two displaying might be around three hundred and six. That's we thought first, but then there was near Canada pilot on the hotel, So that we have to link how huge that enough to be the still look big, write the reports I'll. Do that I'll? Do the elevation estimates cuz I fly planes in that thing is, I assure you, my friend, two thousand five hundred between two thousand five hundred and three thousand so there's almost ten thousand feet in the air, so We have to link how huge that things have to be the still look big from that distance. So, of course, in interviews which can still find online, there are multiple witnesses were certain. This was an

alien or extraterrestrial craft, including some members of the police force, which was surprised seem to me. There was an interview with one fifteen years later, who said? No. I never saw anything like it. Not of earthly origin. Are you can also? You can also find some reports that detail where you can find the entirety of the police were in French and you can translated. It includes the police forces own statements, but they include drawings little drawing like this from the witness. Yes, yes, look like circles with the lines of light coming out Yasser where the light was imposition and where that light re essentially was observed later, all like what yellowish green, I guess yeah, it's it's! It's very yellow too, to my I at least with that kind of green, auto, almost shading in there and I'm honestly,

being. There are ninety. Ninety, I don't know what kind of like pollution is existing in that area of Montreal to me: no color, the clouds which, hers in any major metropolitan area. But it looks oddly, yellow green, that's correct and will will figure out exactly what that means. As as we continue. No Matt. You alluded to something earlier about what made this citing different and we have. We have several features that distinguish it from the majority of sightings. We have ever The first one, I think, is what we are talking about. Just the number of witnesses who were there? Who, who you know worry just some this is awful to say. It wasn't just some former or you. Some say

person or a single family in a rural area to people in a truck yeah. That's not cast aspersions on anyone who would fit that description. Just means there are multiple people their multiple, many of or authority, figure someone you would consider to be an authority figure when it comes to, let's say any aircraft be in the sky in controlled. Airspace- Also, you know, there's a funny story one of the witnesses said the hotel, I think she was She was at a wedding issues, attending a wedding shoes having dinner, basically, seven a fancy dinner, and they heard about this, and so she finished your soup If you go to the stairs of the three slash four, while she doesn't like she's the salad, she goes to check if it's still out there and like her the police is just her. Take him breaks in between watching you have voted.

The boy you it wasn't just on this terrorists. It wasn't just in this building. It was over a huge city and their appeal. Viewing this thing all over the place all across. It is because it was just an having thing to observe yeah. One thing they had in common is that they all the all pointed out. An unequal distribution of light seemed heavier on one side than another pan their on where they were hanging out. I had this was a densely populated city. You know there's something in the air and it's a real thing than people see it if that if it's a solid object and its line of sight, but if it's a meteor, logical phenomenon or if it's a trick of the light, then people looking from the opposite direct. May not see anything at all as to how that stuff works right. It's true, other taking due account of cloud cover in the distance from the clouds.

That we were unable to really discern raped and there is no change in its movement. No real change in its size are the fact that it was visible for so long is interesting, not just because it allowed more people to see it but because it allowed them to time to observe it. In increasingly sophisticated and professional ways, one ok, so one of the first things people talk about would be. The candy dear that it's like there's just like we can dive into that later. I ask of you, people back in the nineteen Ninetys were not any less or more nor more intelligent than people in twenty twenty. They thought of that to be the actually turned off.

Ass near by floodlights or construction lights, deceive that did anything and no. This mysterious Montreal Ufos still hung there, and this leads researchers like Bernard gone yet, and Ex NASA scientist Doktor Richard Haines to argue that there definitely was something up there in meaning a solid object of some sort. They said we can trace the source of it. Can't tell you what it was, but we believe it was something. The report's pretty exhaustive. It's like twenty five pages long and the new anti climactic moments of their report is when they say quote the existence of a highly unusual hovering. Silent large object is, disputable, NEA yeah! It really is big too, in your right on with the twin vibration were in its you know: they not well

don't spoil it. Now is whether or not they actually say exactly what it is. Oh yeah hate you nowhere. Let's, let's get to that, lead to answer that Let's answer the ghostly yellow lit elephant green above the room of the hotel here. What on earth were offered was this will tell you afterward from our sponsor Geico presence not again another voice, mail from your roommate man, so I was in a rush to get to work and I left a back door open catch. You shut it. I left the wide open while you're. There could also turn off the oven and all other burners, my mom. Never let me use the oven. I wonder why Co insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected like if it's your roommates first time operating an oven, visit, Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renters insurance. Everyone

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the occasion that it did something like an disobeyed, the laws of physics or generated any other apps. Behavior, no non human creatures, plopped out and warned us about the danger of nuclear war or large scale pollution eyes so far as we know, maybe they miss that the reporting- and this leads those on the more sceptical and, of course, to relegate the to the land of Monday in whether phenomenon and then subsequent exaggeration, which happens when people are panicking. So why did they say this? It all really goes back to the fog. Could this have been nothing more than spot lights, reflecting off the clouds? You know again the place about it. Bonaventure is close to pretty tall buildings in downtown Montreal. At least one of those had active, spotlights or construction, but those things were in and those things can be clipped off right. You can. You can make

quest to turn that stuff off, but you can't tell everybody driving in a city to turn off their headlights at night. You know what I mean there I would say, spotlights even the ones that you'll see you use engine shot up into the air? You know during a large event, maybe a movie theater every So, while the gentleman's club, the yielding else, will you'll see yeah exactly they have pretty specific shape the can be opened enclose sense, but it expands at least slightly as it goes outward bright grand I say so for talking about lights that are just beamed up into the sky. Like that, you were, you know, reflect dozens of some pretty high powered spotlight of any kind. I think you would look different than what

Seeing here yet or seeing here is not something that I can rightly yell a tribute any phenomenon that I have personally seen before, but remember that doesn't take into account other kinds of lights. Other shapes of of you, no lights, goes lights will of the wisps. I just mean I can't completely. You know I can't completely say it wasn't her affectionately, out of some kind Khazars, some other weird stuff going on here. Particularly with the angle of reviewing the thing, but All the evidence that I have been able to look at the? U been able to look at knows. We all agree is stuff. There was captured in nineteen. Ninety NEA and That doesn't mean you know we. We can't fully trust we're looking at it just means the you know: it's had the resolution's gonna be a little different unless its film rayless is actual film.

A couple of these pictures were film. The video quality of anything that was taken back then, is gonna, be very low resolution. I just say the technology may be is not was not a sophisticated, Sunday or employer yeah camera equipment of thirty years ago. And yes, yes, this should shocking shocks and people, sneer weird soldiers out. Ninety ninety was almost thirty years ago. It's like a few member seventh night tonight is of a few months away from thirty years ago, and technology evolves is such a breakneck pace you're right man, I would say you totally- cannot trust that stuff. It's it's fuzzy. You know if we just depended on those photographs and that video, its

surprise in it all to rake anything inconclusive, because even an actual craft like say a high altitude, blimp If those existed at the time, it would be difficult to discern given again that very low resolution, and then you want the its tempting to whether phenomenon, because it appears to gentle disorder recede into the clouds like that Gifford give of Homer Simpson sinking back into the Toby Airy, but glimpse could just rise, and it would look seem to an observer. You know what I mean, especially if the cloud cover is increasing, because as cloud cover increases and moist moisture unawares, voice but moisture accumulates then pushed the clouds seem to get lower right and heavier. So

well I'm just saying I do we can't, based on the footage alone, we can't rule out either a solid object or whether phenomenon the problem is again. It goes back vantage point because people at the hotel, the Bonaventure too then this look like us, an object and some of them, including police, are still convinced that the state but people from other vantage points they still saw some but they thought it was a weird reflection, known, K, C lights and pools at night reflect weird, weird: go shadows from water J M that could make sense to me, I'm just trying to figure out of trying to figure out how I feel about this. You guys I'm imagining. You know the. Holographic technology, you the hologram technology that uses missed as as me

so, you just shine light on the list and then you can have something three dimensional or appear to be three dimensional, that, like the peppers, ghost effect these and the high mansion and Disney sort of an older effects, I believe so nothing. I just mirrors it's sort of an old school way of generating hologram. I believe there. It'd version who sat in a lot of it goes into a yield project bluebeard by the way and of produce ding images onto cloud cover which is really like. You said and just moisture at CERN densities. In as its more dense, you can get a more solid, looking object, in the cloud cover the fog, as is required here does appear to be very very thick in that area, and I'm wondering if I just

when seen that kind of technology at play. Yet I- and it could be something like that- I just don't- have the reference point for totally yeah- I mean I I completely understand that we also have to have a couple different experts awaiting. Then the Montreal area, and then just people who study a straw, me or you apologize to sew on or one I'd like to bring to your attention is Doctor Robert Lamantine, professor of astronomy at the university Montreal, and he had. I think, those even handed initial response, because again we have to remember like November. Seventh, eighth through the ninth people, are it all kinds just wild out of pocket stuff about this. So here's what here's what the astronomy professor says. People saw something they

are you a foe? Now? The word you, a foe, is unidentified flying object, so they saw something in the sky. They couldn't identify a phenomenon now remains to find an explanation. We haven't had time to find one, yet it takes a while. We to have observed Asians. We need to collect a whole series of information together so far most of the. Instigations that are looking at the? U s Phenomenon often takes several days to find an explanation for decades we have been dealing with UFO phenomena. My only go back, but almost everywhere in the world. Until now, none of these UFO phenomena has found its source in the presence of vessels from other planets. All you have opened. We now have their explanation in natural phenomena of meteorological origin or arose borealis type or artificial phenomena, metal

our very dry way. He saying I'm not saying you can't be aliens, but it would be the first friggin time ever was also used. The term you, a foe, is so loaded. People have some situations with it from pop culture and safe. I in every but what it really just means is a lack of an explanation and just because we're seeing something that does not explanation doesn't mean you can make the leap to it. Is this origins being somewhere near outside of unknown universe? Get assessment really we're on a personal level about that of several days, maybe as last week on radio is taken in, something, and in someone quoted me saying that I read it and who is like the most. I think it was the coolest thing that happened to me that month, while this month's there's a new

never up there. We just wish ever been, but yeah. We have to say that right, every every time we deal with ufos we do have to. We do have to emphasize that cuz you're right, we'll it has. It has become a limited term ever since the nineteen. What late forties? Maybe now that all Roswell will he lets When can we go to the next? person that, because this person, just is so article of anything else like we're, we're that was maybe even handed that we just heard from sure from the professor. Their mark has an axe to grind. Oh man mark What is it you're Linas he's a meteorologist with environment, Canada, that's an organization and secretary of the Montreal astronomical society, this dude? was not having any of this nature. You did this here. Yes, sky

what did he say? He said he looked at the photographs first and he said It looks like a phenomenon observed on many occasions Finally, when we work with projectors, sometimes a meteor, ology. Ok, now, ok, projectors, used with meteorology. I see the case, your built. Ok, I think you ve got your dad and picking up going down I'm on board, and so he goes light is reflected by ice crystals or water droplets in the class. So, depending on the density of that cloud. United, we just talk about this beam, might be several hundred meters thick envious both from a great distance he further conjectured stuff, like the rays

come from an automobile because they have headlights headlights, my point at the sky or they might reflect toward them. Guy, because buildings have windows and windows are reflected. Like he's very watch over the lark you're saying. Ok, I'm first of all here everything but an condescending, which means I talk down to people he's trying to imagine a car. That is somehow positioned with its headlights for three hours ago, like on a giant hill somewhere, the she's gonna sitting there shooting up, because the thing with a headlight argument is that these headlights would not be static. There will be many right side they be moving, but also There are no laser headlights, you know that. Could courage shoot all the way up into there and then reflect down in those raise that were observing. Maybe I'm wrong mark, maybe maybe you're right. I just I don't see that, but ok Lou, where

this is not aimed at you. Ben unbridgeable. Young parlor kill her little, but it is true, then say in then he points out the spotlight stuff and he points out that light beams come from shopping center. He's. Basically, the whole time is going. You guys lights, you have light stir every way everywhere. It's Montreal we're almost in the twenty first century to reflect. Services everywhere. The clouds in the ice crystals come on man and in its Just because you see other astronomy societies of the time there was one quarter, I mean did through did through notes. But this is one quote from someone who seems a little bit of funded by this US. This claim that that's an alien extra terrestrial UFO and then says forwards, Dominic LE rose, Dominic LE rose. I

leave. Is the man who said in my organization, alot of his came to it because we realise that court who alien ufos don't exist so It's where, when you get into this kind of debate, because science, has the lion's share of attention in these concepts or send these conversations, and it should but there's also I'm psychology in their involved in their there's, some grudges being held like when we in some of the weird behind the behind the curtain. Business going, I will move on, which was frankly surprising. You know nothing they do with aliens. Maybe that's a kiss, your see for another day, but but let's look at the other reports Take psychology is far out of it as we can. We know that like any other large city in the developed world, Montreal

the monitoring devices and systems and play he things wrong. Every day the year twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. They are supposed to pain when they see something new in their humans, that, for most of time, if not all of the time are checking those systems and looking at and monitoring them. Yes to sue some experts check into power grids and they say what about electromagnetic disturbances. We know we can do screwy things because keep in mind that Canada is one of the one of the countries that experience the world's strongest most recent coronal mass ejection right, which in the eighties, through the place back into the dark age for a minute, but not for long re. Just unexpectedly, shorted out grids, so they found one power failure, but it was like it was Eleven p M sores after this thing would have been around here,

again, seven twenty years, always at seven twenty, like ten ten herself and then they checked up rating records of communication networks, radio. Stations, radio operators, tell the telephone. Circuits excuse me during the evening of November seventh ninety ninety and they did not find any unusual amount of malfunction whenever they this means that whatever it was was not at the various It was not interfere, power grids nor Electra. Magnetic systems were things that could be affected by that model, I mean ok, there's a good piece of you know now We too have snuff is probably not the electoral good but Another set of monitoring instruments would be radar which would pick up physical objects especially in the airspace, but that wasn't happening right. There were no ufos detected or reported to be detected any case our by airport radar systems

controller, a control that was interviewed reported that, for the twenty years he's worked in the field at the same control tower no Foes ever been reported. Accordingly in a report. A few days later, the phenomena report on Wednesday, was caused by a light ray Oh we have another expert saying it's not physical hair is just light man, just a trick of the light, told me the way and not the ghost of your dead lover solely the wind. Alright, were obliged less yet almost down to the end here, because I wanted to talk about what I think it is ok right. So if want to see a more modern version of this, and you are a fan of less then feller television. You can check out a show that the television channel canal D made in two thousand seven a reconstruction.

Of this phenomenon in a series of theirs called mystery files. They interviewed a lot of the witnesses prize mainly the witnesses who believe that was extraterrestrial, an indifferent people we know that a lot of the? U apology, websites that are convinced this was extra terrestrial words. Will mainly site this report, you can watch it on Youtube. I I don't wanna, be a jerk about it, but I wouldn't call it groundbreaking science, its entertainment. So the point of that is to entertain you with a reprieve gap create It is the common good old fashioned recovery of some light raise. So in this case it appears for now that the most likely explanation for the ninety ninety Montreal, citing was either on Dane if secret craft of some sort or a stir, Each type of light weather

phenomenon caused by interaction with this low foggy sky. Again the questions are the number one this, has led us no, there was definitely something visible there and the fact that it stayed visible for three hours is pretty fascinating to o there's a pretty, there was an argument for some kind of absence. However, the northern lights, but that doesn't really hold up once you once you dig into it so was what do you think we're looking for dealing with a troll phenomena of Sun rays, somehow being bent around, at around seven p m, which That's November, seven p m, I dont know actually when the sun was setting on that day, but there sure in the sky. These ice crystals we're talking about glaring sense because they would refracted and could split it often different patterns make it look like it's me.

At certain times like after dusk or after the sun had set. Were you get some weird light? Re action going on disruptions rang the in its it. Most always has to do with moisture in the sky. These ice crystals we're talking about glaring because they would refracted gets put it often different patterns or make it look like it's moving abnormally right. Yes, in Montreal. Isn't you know right now, the equator anything it's getting up higher north in latitude. So you know that potential is there. Talking about where you can actually see, some strange things in the eye on a sphere above you, you know, Montreal is pretty damn close up to those places, words most strong. But again, oh you know what When you, when you see Aurora, Borealis Pennell generally, what color do you see.

I am not the best person. This is a greenery bowers green is one of the Prague prominent colors. There is, will the lizards explicitly blue? It's hits green, its green, ok, ok, I'm sorry known by the Greek, Mmm hue of the collaboration and some of those images there you're, seeing high up above in that fog. Could be. You know, I could see that being Aurora Borealis kinds of things, but and if you makes that in with maybe of sunlight, being refracted kind of bent over, like that. Could get those light raised because it really does look like tiny sons shooting out raise through then long over ha waits. Did you talk yourself out of what you were originally going. Ok, I do. I like. I love watching these transformations real time

I was going to go with the project blue beam test. Cuz. You know I'm all about it and I'm pretty sure the top of a building like that in Montreal would be a great place to test it out for years. This and then maybe maybe, if we're, if we're going further down the rabbit whole, maybe that eggs why this was instead of a religious figure, Messianic figured. This was a sun God. This was just something like an or so here's my argument against to being a physical objects. Sumter released, gained the size wrong of for it to be almost eighteen hundred feet and at an elevation of twenty five on earth. Let's keep it meters, five Forty metres elevation at twenty five hundred to three thousand meters, that would mean put it in american phrases. Casino will do We'll find a system of measurement of ridiculous degrees and comparisons

do anything we can so long as prevents us from having to think in the metric system. That's why news is always like yours, blah blah blah kilograms. That's the size of like four elephants and one Carrasco of Florio's insight that seven refrigerators anyway This five and forty metres think that's like five football fields there. Would be if it were flying now would be like buying all right. The largest craft ever said doing mothership yoga like I dont have I dont know the biggest airship right now, but I dont think its five football field yeah. What is the aircraft carrier of the sky, and I keep thinking of the large military, these sea one no see something: racy, seventeen C4,

I think that's right. I remember Marshall Brain Talk, you see, seventeen is correct and that's what with a front opens right? The nose opens. Yes, it's huge yeah that ok, let's let's forget that is fifty three- metres long wingspan of fifty one point: seven five meters wow bigger than that. I don't know it's just tough, because it's like the bigfoot question again, if there, something that big an attack people are looking for it. Where the hell is it wherever we found it well, if it is a space fearing craft Ben, that's right. You're right came into our atmosphere, hung out for a minute. Pretty probably higher than we thought and then just went back out if it is, if it is set of mothership, then maybe they just stopped by to see if there was a his room on this planet for them- and maybe it was Just- like when you're walking into

you're walking around you're trying to find a public restroom, and you have to just like driving knobs on the stalls or whatever and survey maybe ask today, maybe that's what they did. Maybe they came in and did the equivalent of like the bath, the check in said, dang there's already his life here there do any lights down their cap narrowly, maybe it's via luminescence serve. Some other form and there are like Ireland. Italy is a trigger the light, I'm pretty sure lesser. That's actual, creature. So how to cool? Would it be if they were other mothership and they were debating what they saw yeah? What was that down their house? Weird man, since I know it's just that it was foggy, so for whose were fog buildings, you fool. It is odd man. It's really odd. If I just yeah, that's that's! Why thinks interesting about this? Because there is not a satisfactory, universally accepted explanation.

And every time we get to the point where you say well was definitely this there's always a by weight just like just like we encountered at the this my last when my last ditch the Euro pitch their. My Hale Mary and pulling for my back pocket if its stomach. My is this. What if it was a physical craft, but it was the ghost of a craft. What if it's a ghost ship? though there wouldn't be solid wouldn't be physical, the it's ok. You have had some cricketing sorry, While I you know, I just have to say this has been a lot on to imagine talk about, and thank you too Brian, for writing, thus that he S. I remember when you first sent that to us of this, maybe too much detail.

Hey! You know at my house doing a thing that all of us do that you involves a bathroom and I literally guy your email and I went home. How? Let me look at this? sounds interesting and then I stayed way too long, because I was was watching their videos tilney. Well, it's not good for your coin. Well, you know I was a sales actually using the bad. I was sitting there and then there is a need to strengthen what we know now sets I got up and I was pacing just forth, like quiet ease This man, your bathroom yeah I have a really tiny bathroom, soon, just kind of like a couple of steps. Without that makes real good pace. It's real intense! We hope that you have enjoyed today's episode. We would like to hear from you what are some other, what what are some other cases of odd for ordinary sightings in the sky

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