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We were growing up at one point or another. We all kind of wanted to be an astronaut, it's just a really it's a really cool job and when you think of it, more in space If you listen to a show like stuff it or what you do know, you have to ask yourself what astronauts see when they're up there in orbit. That's where Buzz Elgin comes here was ordering comes in a big way because he into other deeds, allegedly or very much in reality, went to the moon. And they got to step on their puppy, see what it's like don't step on puppies, but they had to step on the moon yep and buzz. Aldrin would go on to be a pretty interesting. The outspoken character mad, saying some things that that lead to some pretty interesting speculation really fed the conversation around what could be going on out there near What was he allowed to say? What wasn t allowed to say? Did you slip up his our word?

Talking about this episode, you're to find out here comes from you at those two psychic powers and government conspiracies history is riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or learn stop! They don't want you to know Welcome back to the show my name is meant, I name is no. They call me Ben your joint is always with our super producer, Paul Mission Control Deck and which will be a very appropriate name for today's episode. Absolutely most importantly, folks, thanks for dropping in you or you- and you are here- and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. I quit question.

for all of us and in everyone listening is well. When you were a kid, did you ever think of being an astronaut when you grew up, I thought of nothing else we haven't. We have talked about the fact that everyone went to space camp in me me up and you got your shirt was too small. I know I saw and sorry but we can cut up and turn it into something else and its cause give it to my child. They go. Maybe maybe it'll get her to aspire to. space camp on our own Wendy yeah It's your employed to your point, definitely being asked not thinking of exploring the unexplored like that that I think that's a dream of all heart of people. Absolutely it's a dream job! I mean just imagine you literally go where almost no one has ever gone by were and no matter how abstract or inconsequential. Your mission might seem to the contemporary public in a very real leave. You are an astronaut, your paving humanity's path to that

Sars, even if you're, the world's worst astronaut, can think we talked about. On a previous, I mean even being the world's worst astronaut you're, no slouch right. You re still pretty good, but all the other astronauts NO does visionary there's, a list we think they keep tabs. Oh sure, like Steve, is the worst wine I hope so I've been either. We ve talked about this affair of an obsession with this idea, for while the idea that somewhere, there is the world's worst astronaut- because it's such a small group or a small community. Everyone knows sixteen or death or suddenly they're getting their orders to go on the mission? I go right. This all sounds great. Oh, I got one more thing: Derek skin on the squad and they're. All he's always opening is dying Coke and zero gravity everywhere gets all the instruments and stuffed not a pretty seen, always hit none

server Applebee's by saying he's an astronaut and in trying to get a discount I mean a very few- can actually use that pick up. Leinen, be speaking the truth, so it will give a Steve that that's true as tourists even there except like they are in a contest. I always picture the world's worst astronaut, Derek but right in and let us know what I think, the world's worst astronaut. Where do you think buzz? Aldrin ranks? Oh he's near that as regards it as a good one. Get because The level of entries are so high to be an extra up. Then you know to be absolutely fair: the difference in degree between the worse than the best years, hopefully very small. Yes, FIFA, standards, but today's episode is about astronauts. In fact, it's about one of the most famous astronauts in the world buzz Algerian, I everyone calls and buzz is really

his Edwin Eugene, Aldrin Junior, but buzz? That's cool objectively cooler agreed objectively cooler, that's part of the for what they look for astronauts right. He was born on January twentieth, nineteen, thirty and multi clear New Jersey. His father was a colonel in the U S AIR force. I encouraged his interest in flight from a very, very young age, so much so that a graduated school. One year early, attended the military academy at West Point where your new BS mechanical engineering join the air force after graduation. He flew F eighty six sabres and sixty six combat missions shot down to my jeez, whose decorated with distinguished in cross. He flew F one hundreds in Germany, and then he went back to school, earned a doctorate in science in astronautics at MIT and wrote this thesis on manned orbital rendezvous,

whose that's pretty darn common unimpressed not yet just wait right in eighteen? Sixty three NASA selected him to become an astronaut one, member of their third group of astronauts, what a crazy that must have been it's like. We ve got this new job, see where we shoot up into space. have you ever by we're gonna, try and put you on the moon. Maybe if that's cool with you ve actually know, doesn't matter you're doing They may not have told us, you know, but obviously does what he wanted. Imagine getting a degree in astronautics at that day and age in the six These navigation, I know now says it's. An independent agency or organization is not connected directly to the military, but do astronauts have like the other. manders. Did they get orders when there given a mission, is it like court martialed as an astronaut yeah, that's a good question, because

they can have a number of ranks our positions. There might be a mission specialist who has a scientific acumen, that's needed, but there's going to be a pilot, a commander, a command module pilot. It changes, I think, depending on the mission or the program, so I can Mercury in the Mercury programme. They just had a pilot in Gemini. They had I command pilot in pilot and then, if you go to things like the space shuttle, there's a payload commander, there's a fly. Engineer yet actually do so because of it looks like there are military astronauts but their technically. turn on loan to NASA and are still held to the standards of their particular branch of like the Uniform Code of military justice, for example. That's fascinate. I make sense, though, because there's not enough of a demand for people right. We don't have enough spaceships two to justify NASA having its own rat military branch, yet

hopefully so yea you the astronaut and he gets another. Kick ass, nickname guys so nickname rich. He gets the nickname doctor on the issue and by the way Buzz came from his sister couldn't pronounced brother in pronounced it buzzer instead toward buzz came from. I was that you might have gotten it when he was a fighter pilot. Much as our head hair cut her something now he's doktor, both rendezvous, which up there with mantis toboggan as you just pull that would have either been no that's from oil Sunnyvale treasure the amount is to buy. It is a great and also a doctor. I believe you,

was the first Ashura when the doktor it that's why? I got the nickname, doktor rendezvous additionally here in this nickname, because he created the docking and rendezvous techniques for spacecraft lunar earth orbit. These were mission critical for the success of the Gemini and APOLLO program scares. You know once you get people into space, they need to be bought to rendezvous and dark with things we are in, especially if they're going to send part of the ship down to the moon and then get that ship that part back up to the main ship and then get out of it allegedly not Irene, yeah yeah. That's really good point: man. That's crazy! So think about math behind that in just melt away new can't you can't find me for several days just the precision involved and we have everything has to be just so. The timing has to be absolutely perfect. Do nothing can go wrong? I know just think the Heavens literally that doctor rendezvous around doctor

that's what we Yolanda showed. You think. Let us call them doktor rendezvous areas that lake a term only other astronauts can use my make a face. Have you seen him phase easy. He makes a pretty intense think face. Oh yeah, he is, he is not reticent about exhibiting his displeasure You know. Why does he need to? Why does he need to play nice he's done? No man has been on the moon near he's, gonna be untouchable. He can he could get it with a lot of stuff, though he could put out a bad New Agee, spiritual album and people would still say you know what it's not my favorite music, but he has. In my view. We talk about the fact that he pioneered a time of the training techniques used to train astronauts like Yo Yo, see them training zero gravity work in these giant pools down idea. This idea he yet he did.

The underwater training techniques. He also perform the world's first successful spacewalk, which, if you notice, there's a weird caviar and there the world's first successful spacewalk This was on the german I twelve orbital mission in nineteen sixty six. He set a new EPA extra vehicular activity record of five and a half hours, and also he took the first sophie and space. Nay. Did I love this guy? Just thinking about that, I really like this dude you. I wish she was like my grandpa man wearing Grandpa Buzz. Let me sit on his knee. Tell me tales of space exploration, adventure tee

You teach you the complex science of trajectories and zero gravity explained the calculus of space talking. I would probably be a lot smarter if buzz alternate in my Grandpapa. I would you know even beyond a familiar relationship. I want to just have him in my crew here. What I take group pictures, like others, There's there's the gang of whose that oh, that's doktor, rendezvous. Yeah, and he just in the back he's not impenitent chill and he's got aviators on these run and the numbers man he's running the numbers. He can perfectly through things and trash cans in an office from across the hall. Anyway. That's that's. All awesome entails in comparison to this of that. He did especially on July twentieth. Nineteen sixty nine, that's the big one when he and Neil Armstrong made their historic APOLLO. Eleven Moon walk, they landed on the moon. He took the giant steps from it,

guy in that warehouse in Burbank, captured brilliantly by Stanley Cubic. Maybe now maybe we should do in episode on that in the future. We always talk about that fellow conspiracy, real, as there are a couple of episodes that we always kick round off air and say we're going to get to one day. Let us know if you would like like to explore these Stanley coup. Brick faking the moon land. We, as we did an episode in the movie that we watched where its thick analyze rousing bake in the moonlight and remember those good when we're for the purposes of this episode. Let's operate as though this were real thing that he actually in fact happened. Ok, I got one will table that were tabling all the moon, shenanigans lunar shenanigans of for a future episode, but we do want to hear from you. Let us know what you think about this. We are conspiracy, a house upwards dot com.

Couple facts about the moon work, an estimated six hundred million people tuned into watch. There was the largest television audience in history at the time when buzz and returned. They receive the presidential metal of freedom for the rest of his life post, lunar, landing buzz, Aldrin receive the congressional gold medal, tons and tons of There are numerous awards. He has an ass Wade named after him. He has a creed or on the moon named after him. He is a prolific writer rights, lotta children's books. Surprisingly, it was operation avalanche by operation. Evella absolutely was movie earlier. I am all about and do check out that episode, Vienna listen to it was pretty go, but he is still advocate for space exploration and again. You know you were on the moon, but there's more,

were to the story. You see more and more people in sources will tell you that, while exploring space Buzz Aldrin and his colleagues didn't just see lunar rocks and move Thus, they believe instead that he, along with his fellow astronauts, saw something startling an inexplicable something that is publicly acknowledged, could fundamentally change our species, understanding of the space around our planet and the universe as a whole. A saint Buzz Aldrin, saw some sort of life form. We'll be back after a word from our sponsor this episode. Us If they don't want, you to know, is brought to you by lifelike. Remember that saying, if you love something set it free. Yeah? That's what if it doesn't come back to you, it was never years to begin with. I was a little confused by that, but if people do say it now,

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you have if you, if you have any interest in stores of astronauts and stories of space exploration. Oh, we are certain that you have seen this pop up in your. Maybe your news, feed where you get your news or about it on a forum or something like that. Apparently all dream saw a u s! Oh yes in this is not the first time that it was reported, but the latest adoration of something like this came on April. Eighth, twenty eighteen year it was a british tabloid call the daily star and they reported that Buzz Aldrin and three other astronauts, Gordon Cooper, EDGAR Mitchell. and our warden. They participated in this study. We'll get into what the study actually was, but a study that revealed Buzz Aldrin as well as from these other guys had in fact see

some kind of bizarre object or unexplainable phenomena in space right with a specific will attributed to doktor rendezvous, which, under I'm gonna, have to call him for the rest. This show saying allegedly he said there was something out there. There was close enough to be observed, sort of l shaped the air he I will about that attribution like you said yes to talk a little bit about what what went down there? What's the skinny? What's the scoop? Ok, so that the test that they participated in was a different kind of I detect or test, and not the one that you might be familiar with. If you watch csi shows and things like that- that monitors your specific biometrics of your body or sweat, you're, what your heart beat your heart rate and things like that, let loose.

Get into it. So I want to read some of the sum couple little quotes here from the article. It definitely states of those four astronauts took part and they all past this. Whatever this version of a lie, detector test was, and the experts that the results show and that these experts are completely convinced that signs of alien life were actually seen by these gentlemen. It was conducted at this place called the Institute of Bio Acoustic biology in Albany Ohio. According to the article and it says they carried out complex computer analyses of the astronauts voice patterns as they told of their close encounters. So that's that's. How they're, looking at these in something that really important to talk about two of those astronauts that they looked at the EDGAR Mitchell in Gordon Cooper when they

for in this test, these guys are deceased gather dead. So the story is at the very least coming, from a misleading school amiss leading base, because the way it's written implies that the astronauts were being analyzed in real time yeah or that they were speaking true, the people conducting a study and then not that that is not the case in here is something of great convenience. Here's another cool. from the article, although the technology is still top secret, the studies are claimed to be more reliable than current lie detector tests and could soon replaced. Those used by the FBI and police top secret hope tat. Top secret lie detector technology in Albany, Ohio at the Institute of Bio Acoustic, biology. Things can be see. Grip at the can really be topsecret unless they're classified that

by a government and you're not gonna have somebody writing anywhere, especially in the daily star about something that is top. Equally, I guess a lot of non government agencies used the phrase proprietary like rioters technology. That makes a lot of sense for what this could be in bold, get into what it is in a second weight. So do you want it Do you wanna talk about Bio acoustics? You wanna hang out for the second year. This jump into Bio, acoustics, ok, he's out thrilled me. It's ok I'm interested in this stuff, and I want to know if there's any, I don't know basis for what what the things, what these people are claiming, but as of right now, auctions razors pointing me in an unfortunate direction. Let's just say: ok, you can go to bio acoustic researched,

calm and you can learn about the Bio Acoustic biology research studio. That's in North West, Ohio! Ok, let's see it's an independent research studio and is currently working on projects regarding ptsd and radiation. Okay, so that's that's interest. thing. Has references to the high radiation levels present in the sky, and let's see if you go down on the website a little, but you can see pictures of the studio that they ve got here. They're they're, recording studio essentially and it looks fine, looks cool, but it looks like somebody's house for and then, if you continue going down the rabbit, whole you'll find a thing called sound health portal dot com. That is also related to this by acoustic biology website, but that we should also plan to be fair just because something

operating out of someone's house doesn't deed legitimize. Oh no, absolutely does not deal legitimize it. Thank you for pointing that out in, but it some it doesn't give it. The same. Gravitas is as if there is Spending by the government for arriving late, ass, it doesnt show that there is a large number of people. Probably working on this project is probably a very small number of employees or self self made recording and its experts and sue. The idea here Yes, then, would be that using this proprietary secret technology, the researchers are able to I guess, mine things from voices that would not. Ordinarily be discernible, because I remember they go into medicine a little bit as well. Yet so, ok, here at sound health portal, dot com, it says what is human bio acoustics,

and it states. The state of your health is in the sound of your voice. Frequencies and architectures found in the human voice can be used I identify the innate mathematical biomarkers that represent states of Health and Wellness Merv. It sounds a little strange, whiskey frequency based medicine is currently position at the top of today's alternative health options. Okay, so we're looking at an alternative health option here. Everything homeopathy too. Central oils which considered something like that and if you keep going down the website, you you'll see things like math matrix is. For each individual. For your health and wellness by acoustic, vocal profiling, which sounds fascinating, it does sound fascinating. I think one thing a lot of people have a problem with regarding bio. Acoustics would be that in other other aspects or in other parts of the web,

It's also associated with the discovery of ancient wisdom, rediscovery of it there's a quote from Sherry Edwards about this, where she says novel research supports the assertion that Ancient Templar Cross. I could architecture contains math codes that support frequency based medicine. The idea of revisiting lost knowledge through the use of computer constructed Biometrics provides a new paradigm that will change the face of future medicine. It sounds cool. It sound, really interesting, grits of the Temple, our Dan Brown type stuff in speaking of Sherry Edwards she works with Bio acoustics and she said that the tests that Aldrin went through she's handed Aldrin is sure he saw the UFO, even though his logical mind cannot explain it so with whatever testing she did, that secret stuff, she was able to tell that he definitely saw something. So it's not allied,

to me. It is in a way. I guess I don't. I don't understand it's done polygraph. I guess What we're saying is usually was lighted, tattooing, Pollack. It's the way you're describing is like an everything detector. Its is looking at the vocal patterns of a person, so I'm assuming its or some kind of sectoral analysis of the local, like after you record somebody, it's some kind of natural houses in using it dick. Tell you things about your your health, Vienna, that's what it's that's! What the Bio Acoustic Biology Institute is saying in even even unto the degree of being able to tell you if you will have a quote negative outcome from vaccination based on your voice and that's that's where, because its but its it saying they can tell that before a vaccination occurs. So that's the that this is the institute conducting the tests and they said that I saw you have.

According to Sherry, Edwards, JANET says that they all did and if we go back to the article it states I'll warden, who at the time was eighty six was on good morning. Britain and he he apparently claimed to have seen extraterrestrials And he also believes that we're all descended from some form of ancient aliens, and I mean really dude it makes me want to go down the rabbit whole again. We ve been down that road tolls several times sure on the show in our just daily lives, but you know it's not just him. You also get EDGAR Mitchell, who also had claimed to seeing you are foes I don't know he was talking more about chasing a group of ufos rather than the single one or something, and then

and article claims it through. The testing of these men seemed to be telling the truth and the whole truth and nothing but the up. If this is true, it is astonishing right. It's mine blowing in we have two container excitement and ask ourselves about The source, what about this thing? Does it measure up? Are there other sources? They confirm it contradicted. What do the people involved actually say? What is by solvency? We'll tell you, after a word from our sponsor, we asked people in Michigan. why they got the covert nineteen vaccine, because I am pregnant and we wanted to protect our baby boy. I believe in the science protect me and help our community ready to give back the somewhat normal one hot my grandma

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star so yeah I mean it's what they do, but the tabloid the Daily star, published, they threw Saturday in the UK and it in doing that since November. Second of nineteen, seventy eight just take a quick second, the tabloid, it seems like always, a term of derision like a term implying fake news, or some kind of sensationalize flint, clamouring that how you guys it will its devil the motivation there is to sell more papers, then the motorways, in any papers to sell more people who write, but in this case the let's say, thee, a journalist and integrity. Maybe isn't as important in this is tough to even say about anything like this, because I've never worked at the daily star. I don't know what

bosses their shea during their all hands meetings? They it, maybe they're telling the God's honest truth and there like? Why have we been killed yeah? Why do people leave us bad boys So is it is bad boy type stuff where there are different group Eddie gradation. Very, I shall say of tabloid yeah a technically tabloid will use them. be a derogatory term. Its format of a newspaper- that's not as large right. It is about half the size of a standard newspaper and it has more popular reporting, you're going to see more stuff about celebrity paparazzi type stuff, and do you know speculating about whose cheating on who bridling services yeah absolutely and in some cases, a lotta cases here in the states, at least when you go to the grocery store, you will typically see the tabloids oriented towards celebrities at the check outline, but there used to be back in the day.

really cool ones like weekly world myriads of news. That's why I don't see that anymore. Now I have seen it we should. We should find out. We should find out and see if we can get our bosses to give us a subscription to it, which you guys be proud. Subscribers with me to the weak world news. Absolutely I dont want it delivered at my house. It still in circulation in circulation. Is one point: two million. I think we'd partner, them and make a new show goes where it's just reading the paper. That's it that's all it is. We should write for them. That's a great idea. We should all get pseudonyms right for them buzz rendezvous is unfortunately taken. How do you do? track was a kind of interesting and looking at their sight. It seems their little more just

covering weird natural phenomenon and a lot of these stories announcing on the front page not near my God. The one six inch alien and Gwen Paltrow buys the wine seem company. We did. She may not think so. Fascinating stuff right through tabloids nowadays have an oral of unreliability, it's that something that we all associated with the term. tabloid, then the etymology that how it evolved is maybe a story for another time, but in addition to being a tablet, the Daily star was the only original source. I reported this and the other outfits. We found that we're reporting it ultimately are going back to, at least in this case, back to this daily star story, and not you brought up a fantastic point that we can't also over, which is that this is one iteration of a thing. That's come up.

Again and again and again since the first first days of space variants illustration, oh yeah, immediately after those Ashura landed, probably even before that there were questions about what did they actually see, yeah and he had been there will. Another thing: that's different with this case is that people are easier to reach now, so various news outlets from the independent Australia's the pedestrian reached out to Buzz Aldrin directly and said: hey? Did you really say this do believe this happen all and spokespeople responded to the to the australian outfit would mentioned earlier, the pedestrian and they categorically denied this story and ticket a step further. They called it unfounded and bogus, and then the added we don't know where it came from. They had never heard of the Bio Acoustics Institute

They had never heard of this reporting, and so do you, Mitchell stance is no way. What is that- and we can take it as a further Buzz Aldrin himself was asked about not specifically the study by unidentified aliens and spacecraft in a a may, which is an acronym. four ask me anything right so, We have a long way from him here and we can probably just split it up between the three of us, her or paraphrase a little, but he says, On APOLLO eleven in route to the moon, I observed a light out the window that appeared to be moving alongside us. There were many explanations of what it could be Other than spacecraft from another country or another world, it was either the rocket we had separated from or the four points those that moved away when we extracted the lander from the rocket and were knows too knows what the two spacecraft. So in the past,

vicinity moving away were for panels and I feel absolutely convinced that we were looking at the sun reflected off of one of those panels which one I dont know so technically the definition could be on identifying. but we well understood exactly what it was so are we are we seeing a sort of em misinterpretation, the idea of a? U s: phone like when the parliaments of NASA astronaut Day to day operation. That could mean many different things right, yeah, that's that's a part of it here. He goes out and says that he was a guest taken out of context. Statements were taken out of on tax- and it goes further yeah yeah, there's ways as he goes. We well understood exactly what that was and when we returned, we debriefed explain exactly we observed and I felt that this had been distributed to the outside world, the outside audience, and apparently it wasn't in so many years later. So this data

on tax base. So many years later, I had the time in an interview to disclose these observations on another country's television network and the EU have o people in the United States we're very, very, very angry with me. That I had not given them this information. It was not an alien We could then using extraordinary observations require extraordinary evidence. That's what Carl Sagan said. There may be aliens in our milky way galaxy and there are billions of other galaxies Mobility is almost certain that there is low if somewhere in space, it was not that remarkable that special van unusual that life here on earth evolved gradually slowly to where we are today, but the disk is involved in where some evidence of life may be. They may be huh, words of light years away. That's a great point. That's like the whole Fermi paradox thing we discuss on the show numerous times, so we can get there, that's what he said and they we can't get to us. The odds are so low.

Using aliens do exist, it's very likely that they do exist and highly unlikely the will run into them. So he himself is denying that he saw an alien and claiming instead it was a UFO and to your point, nor that just means we didn't exactly what it was. He could have been a million other things that were not extra terrestrial in origin. So in this case it seems that the Aldrin story may be largely discredited. We did mention Course Cooper, Mitchell Pass passed away, so they had to be using prerecorded audio. They should have mentioned that, but there's something else here. What if Aldrin was not the only astronaut too

see strange things in the stars. We know that during the german IFOR Mission pilot Jim MC did it had spotted an object. He described as a white cylindrical shape with a white pull sticking out of one corner of it. He took a couple photos of it. He thinks it was unknown, but man made debris cause near earth orbit is just fullest space child gripe, but other people were saying: maybe it's the second stage of a titan to used in space exploration and then in two thousand and five and astronaut, namely Roy Chow, reported seen lights, a line almost like an upside down check mark He later identified these as being from fishing boats, hundreds of miles below our so every allotted the astronauts you see unexplained stuff have later come back and said here is the mundane explanation, or is that because the men and black out of order

That's because someone got them. You often when we hear that kind of story. The the crazy thing about about a group of people keeping another group of people, quiet and intimidated it, because it's difficult to believe most cases, because it's usually a matter of keeping hundreds of thousands of people quiet but the world it, Is it lousy with astronauts? Throw that many correct especially that may that have been that far out. That's true. Actually, there is only a very small handful of esterhazy than ever. Have you met one? No, do you trust the maybe that's

as an aside joke for us from previous video, where, if we ended up with have you ever met an astronaut? But I believe we have. I believe that when the three of us we have minister ants pilots, though pilots are a different story, and there was a story. Recently came out in February of twenty eight team to airline pilots spotted a mysterious, reflect evolve, object, hovering about forty thousand feet or twelve thousand meters for everybody outside of Namibia, the United States, Myanmar over Arizona and the FBI. The federal Aviation administration is stumped because these were pilots in two different planes yeah. So their perspective was different. The Phoenix new

times released in L, a recording of this. The siting was three thirty in the afternoon on February, twenty fourth over the desert near Phoenix and no one knows what it was agree, a great article life science about this kind of you. If you call back to our german core bell episodes, we discussed several these visually last one. We did. We talk about actual navy, piety pilots that have seen ufos the recent past. So it does occur on land or least of just above land. Quite frequently these sightings yeah. Then we have to be fair, because just if one just because one story turns out not to have sand to it doesn't mean other storage, not correct, and the last new. We can't leave you with here the that will perhaps send you off on a The whole of your own is the following:

in an interview with the BBC head of Uk Air Traffic Control, Richard Deacon claimed we see a u f o a month, while one idea of unidentified flying object per month consistently, but that could just be an unidentified plain that isn't responding to them calls Gimme a freaky look and bird man, yet it could be a lot of things they could loans, yeah or classify aircraft as the one I most excited about. But let us know what: U S: shoe incidents you think hold the most sand have the most grit, the most credibility right through the which ones haven't been proven to be what they saw a weather balloon right now we would love to hear from you, and you know it's no secret spaces, weird, along with the deepest epistle plains of the ocean spaces, one of the least understood environments.

That humans have ever experienced and there are still tons and tons of unidentified objects being spotted in the air under the water? We don't We don't know how to explain them on its pretty exciting time to be alive. When you think about it, it really is I'm excited and others. I think we would be good astronauts me at my back. And could you be a great astronauts? Maybe he's weird re seeking where one of those like you Ps Guy, back, raise things. Surely they can build that into the space suit man that can be taken in a considered? Our eye are at all look into it and you should try out there. They have open on open casting caused additions. Gets them next adoration America's got talent and be cool. It's NASA's got talent. Member of the ever about. But how do you guys film Obviously there is a lot of nostalgia. Wrapped up.

NASA everything we're talking about was this kind of stuff that happened relatively in our lifetime and you guys were obviously hugely into the idea of being How do you feel about the whole privatisation of of space, travel and exploration? And maybe some of the emphasis moving away from the way it used to be dying? Are we gonna see more guys, like oh Buzz, Aldrin yeah, so there's a dozen fascinating and complicated issue here, which is the following. A lot of successful colonizing

in in human history was essentially privatized? Dutch EAST India accompany her or Rivet company. Very, very bad did terrible things, but without that push towards privatisation, it would not. You know, the path of history would have been much different and those expansionist forces probably wouldn't have been able to reach the places they reached him take the hold they maintained for so long. So privatisation is the next also, I believe, were moving away from states toward corporations. so it did not inherently bad. In fact, many good things about it, but potentially potential for abuse potential for terrible terrible things to happen YAP, but that could you

We could say the same about a state run operation and a lot of a lot of the big players that will be in the future. Space race are going to be state and private partnerships in. I liked like that. It may be supported with funding from state, but its owned by a private entity. No enemy doesn't even more. Strike, you guys kind of a bond villain figure he week. He worries me these done. Some pretty amazing I know he has I'm I'm mainly joking, but there's part of me that thinks he's going to build a sonic death ray on the moon and blow up all the poor people on the earth. I don't know you don't know him, I don't get it from him. I get there from several People were amongst his peers, but now I'm not him I'd like that. I don't think he's a blow up the poor kind of person, but I do think he would absolutely institute an autocratic technocracy on Mars, similar to

what our eye- guy Marshall, brain tourism rain as a finance and maybe he'd marshall- should get together and get the NGO, get Google's new out rhythms up their work with them, those guys brilliants. I can imagine what the word if we put them in a room and just gave them an hour to talk they well, though, if we put them in cabin for a week and they will come out with some kind of new we're technology. Oh yeah, I don't I don't know if I would understand it. I hope it's not a deathray a hopeless but yeah. That's. I think that we're gonna see something very much like the duchess did the accompany me. I can imagine leading the charge to space exploration We have two as a species, we have to go to space. Yeah it'll be like service from the mass affect universe

There are giant private company that basically ended up being the most powerful thing that existed and the most powerful entity that existing and, of course this is another argument which is maybe we should just fix the earth we have before. We go to make make another one. As echo- and here I mean Euro ups and downs, mixed results sooner humanity still here. The pendulum swings pendulum swings. The earth is resilient. It doesn't matter to earth if human beings are gone there I'll just be some some new iteration then I'll take our place, but you know collectively it's kind of cool for us to be here. Oh I, for one am excited too. to Mars rivers there's something there that we can explore that Buzz Aldrin himself has discussed before. Besides this whole thing about seeing aliens error, spacecraft, her something while he going to the moon and orbiting. He also has mentioned a very soon

civic phenomena worry an object that exists on one of Mars, moons photos, it's a monolith talked about it live on air. We should go boldly where man has not gone before. Fly by the comets visit asteroids visit the moon of Mars There a monolith there. Unusual structure on this little potatoes shaped, object, That goes around Mars once in seven hours, when people find out, that they're gonna say who put that their hope that their well, the universe put it there. If you choose God there. There is also a monolith on Mars that has been observed in or two things, and I think we should really really explore here's the thing they're, probably natural of you, the outcomes razor it they're, probably natural rock formations, however, that

here are two one on both the planet and the moon. One of the moons of the planet is fascinating to me and I think we should explore and I'm pretty sure Buzz Aldrin believed we should as well absolutely look. I That's fascinated me that he he himself be known for someone of being somewhat of a sceptic would be so interested in this idea. You, oh, I wanted to ask this question a camera press before, if offered, would you take a one way ticket to live on Mars, as top man with a year with like a cool job, and let's see you knew, you wouldn't die on the way? Ok, Some assurances that had been done. I might do it, I would totally do it. I would also be the one who would say: well, we don't have to Mars, you know our I'll, just I'll keep going for you. If you have snack.

yes in the new lost in space reboot yet affair, not very early on that deep into the reason I mention this because there's a whole thing in that show where they ought to take a testing aptitude tests in order to become the new colonizers over space or the new plan trying to find because earth is not doing so well. So what do you think of unidentified flying objects or they all mundane, is there something further at play: have astronauts actually seen these and later denied them or have they been misquoted? It miss characterized in the media the never ending hunt for more clicks we want to know your opinions. Let us know what you think you can find us on Instagram, Facebook and twitter. You can also join our community page and meet your hello, conspiracy, realist on here's, where it gets crazy on Facebook and can call us you can actually call us and leave a mess you might get on the show. Here's the number

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