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Think the last time I was on the show we were talking about shells on the internet. So, yes, we got. We, I d on that subject shot some funding. For video. If you have not seen a video check it out. Please- and that's one other that that's one of the package that we enjoy making too, and I got a lot of feedback guys. You were likely largely from sought puppets we hope that one person making a lot of email accounts What were we were? Often, This were accused routinely for several months and sometimes still in the common thread of being Anti russian spies there's something I can't remember the conspiracy and the threat that was very strange didn't mean to promote any anti russian message further, as some people were sensitive about that you, the thing that we have to deal with women delve into those kinds of topics. Is it it me up

here that we are looking at one case upset. Lee or that we are somehow singling out one country organization, but it goes back to the sources we can find rain. Not just talking about the thing, are the most about the air at it is. Surely appear. Look I'm not say that Russia was doing a terrible job, but always in way easier to find examples of their sight puppetry than many other places. I am speaking of fear ass, Dick sideways Let's get you something that that is fascinating, a little bit of background for everybody. Okay. So in the past listeners you have asked now a know. I question that haunts me still the world all this conspiracy theory you ain't. You may notice owner videos in the intervals, at least the older interests. You see something that says it starts here and we ve

wanted to know. Where does it start right? Where win? What why? How all of the other two big journalistic questions, and it's a game that we have played for years now. It's rough game, because, as you're going to see quite quickly passed a certain point in ancient history, I'm not gonna curse on the show associated friggin, Roar, Shack, we'll see what they want to see in it. They they draw what the east convenient to them. Their people, phantom history, enthusiast for instance, who believe that we are still in the mediaeval or middle it way. What was the they're, always that that is that the missing era, the area they believe they're a couple hundred years that didn't actually happens. Charlemagne made up yeah just as a good idea. If we do have a video on it, and I think we did have an audio episode on it. If we haven't, we should we will

That was just the missing years, so we got to something different. It's not it's probably not. The oldest are the first conspiracy theory. Well, according to its adherents, it may well be. We're talking about one of the oldest extent, conspiracy theories and western history, its one that cast out not just like on one aspect of the world right boy the entirety of reality itself. We are talking about, or for the soul of Christianity, a war for the fate of human beings, a war for reality, though I were using the video, is a cosmic cover up leading to things that literally litter cannot be in that so little about narcissism. This is topic I wanted to talk about an impact has for a long time, and I hope I get to revisit it eventually because unforced- Lastly, it is one of those subjects. That is so. Some aiding and so rich I'm so

to say this, but we will not be able to talk about everything. That's interesting to talk. My were were barely gonna, be able to scratch the surface today, but we want to, Give you a little bit of a flavour of what Nastasya is. How it was lost to history and impartially regained. What we can. About it, why it so mysterious and why it proposes searching serious view of our place in the cosmos. And one of the most interesting facts about this mystery, as you alluded to, is the fact that it sort of is a conspiracy theory. It is a cosmic concern see theory about the role of creation of Hugh beings of the guy. And how it's all a vast cover up. Yet any encounter with the divine now as we do in episode that touches on religion? We want to have a little bit of a disclaimer right yeah. I would say that, for my

here we not here to evaluate the. I didn't feel. Vehicle merits of one religion verses. Another. We or anything like that, we just want to talk about the history. What people believed in the past, where these ideas came from and how they pay in two ancient societies and still do today here and there. Very strange stories. Early Christianity. Personally, I am personally I'm alone. I am a little bit bomb that we're not going to be able to cover some of the other offshoots or sex, but this is a big one. This is one of the. More mysterious an influential, and we can always come back to you with noise, come back to other some of my other favorite offshoots, okay, so kind! what you guys in a scenario you have perfect. I support your game. Absolute of his. I wanted take you back into the past and have You imagine that you are a christian living,

somewhere in the roman empire about the year one. Eighty no use specifically civically, allow a it maybe you're in gaol. Europe in France, and and your part of a small christian community in a town that me regularly in you do the christian rituals you celebrate. The Lord supper, you practice baptism Is he worship, Jesus Christ Annual, Jesus Christ to be the one true saviour of humankind. So what's your life, like one thing, I would say, is the pagan locals, probably dont. Like you a whole lot, they spread law is about your beliefs and religious practices. For example, they might say that you guys practices sexual orgies and feast on the flash of sacrificed infants- that's not true with that's what they say about you. Disasters happen. Sometimes people blame you and call you atheists, because you won't sacrificed to the and gods of Rome or to the roman emperor, did to keep everything in order to carry your way right, yeah

doing your job as a citizen of this empire or racist, probably wouldn't whether now you're citizen not doing your job as somebody living and in the in this community to keep the gods happy and that harm's way, but otherwise he's, probably aren't too bad unless you're living during one of the few periods of sporadic persecution. So one day after a good sermon in your church, there's there's one member of your congregation who comes up tee and says: hey, Bunny, Do you like that sermon today about the resurrection, and you know immortality and other genoese pretty good? Or maybe you should join my private study group? We can. We can work more about the true knowledge of God, No, no you're gonna Euro followed the sky to his Bible study group in it emits at his house and at first everything sounds pretty normal. You know they're talking about the same kind of stuff, your hearing about in church they're, talking about bayesian and knowledge of God and eternal life, but over time

start hearing some weirder concepts that maybe art, quite so familiar from what you're used to a church like the creation story you ve always been told in the book of Genesis, is really just a cover story and that no US flood was a false flag operation and that, of course, it This is really a misunderstood hero, not the betrayer of cries way way way way. I want any jack roadway who are. These guys. Well, it sounds to me like no, you have encountered some adherents of the gnostic school of thought. I'm in trade tell me more than gnostics were a group of early Christians and in the gnostic way of thinking we do believe it. Beyond Christianity. So there were, there were probably gnostics who weren't exactly Christians like them, been hermetic agnostic traditions that had to do with some version of the God Hermes, but there is gnostic crew

reality, and so when people talk about narcissism most of the time, what they're talking about his gnostic christianity- and it was system of beliefs within early Christianity that that eventually not the dominant one. The strain of thinking that eventually the dominant one in early christianity and then turned into the catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church and subsequently also the protestant church since that broke away from the catholic church is often where'd you buy scholars as Prado Orthodox, so in a very loose way. This just mean something like Catholics. Before there was a catholic church, though, if, if you get all the way into the muddy waters of early christian history, that's not exactly did that is now on problematic concept. People of challenge the validity of the idea of a protein orthodox church, but I think it's it's ok enough for our purposes today,

We read, we were a fantastic book and a great course, coincidentally, that the name of the series, but it is also a great cos so maybe I'm finished the book yet, but I like what I've read and I did check out the great course so we are they will We have some quotations from an author that I don't know. I think we're both answer this. Guy was my main source on ostracism and he's here is in Ohio, State University. History, professor history of Christianity, professor named David Bracky and Bracky, says yes in his book on the Gnostics, he has. Most scholars agreed that there was no single church in the first and second centuries, but a multitude, Competing groups, one of which to emerge in the third centuries will be the two hundreds as dominant one and so can be called proto orthodoxy. So these are the who eventually become the me

your dominant players and they are contrasted with we would think of, as as the heresies basically right the early systems of thought and Christianity that did not become the winners in the battle of ideas ass ever I have great idea for this. I can Paris, ok, everybody. So the more we learn the evolution of man, the more were learning that it was not a single linear thing right that there were other woes like versions of people of humanity. So that's how he found that there is DNA Neanderthals, then a servant dna in modern humanity today, so all competing these competing types. And I want to see brands but competing takes up early man. I still ended up with us. Day in a kind of a mean dna rip,

Action is already kind of a religious and criticism or similar to re. I saw this this analogy for four people: Maybe I got you familiar with the early days of religion. That's a good way to look at it. Is that fair? Do you think you are? I think that's really good one in that. I think be somewhat. I've read the most the most you're a way, look at the development of of theology and christianity, or really probably any religion, but especially in Christianity, based on. What we know is that it's not unity into diversity system and its, not a diverse in the unity system, but its diversity and diversity system. There are a lot competing ideas and they get the sort of growth. Recombination over the years into various different strains, but you start with diversity, and then you end with diversity. So

where did narcissism come from? Well, that's a difficult question to answer, because we don't exactly where or when it came from a was it a variation that emerged from early Christianity? So did you have Christians who started? taking on ideas. Other ideas from the culture may be from NEO platonists and which is a thing we talk about in water and turn into or did it originally come from Judaism? Was there a kind of jewish noster system that became christian ostracism, or did it come from paganism and secular philosophy and then incorporate Christian Ideas- don't really know the answer to that question because we don't know when or where it first showed up. There's some guesses like

people think maybe narcissism started in the city of Alexandria and Egypt, but they're all just kind of circumstantial guesses. We don't really know. One thing we can do, however, is disprove some earlier theories, because the for aid, a very important point in the future. Paradoxically, recent history, This is a way the subject of a lot of wild speculation. So we K is rooted in heights that doesn't it. What do we actually talk about the gnostic myth? I think you're gonna understand a little more like why this is what why invite some really weird literature and and speculation. I just have the company say: the the kind of creation if, in the admin Eve, Miss fanaticism, fascinates me and I really like them. I think I might be converting like while we're sitting Ok, ok! We will check in with you in a little while ago I wanna hear I want to hear what you think

We get the Yalta both yeah, our male even over. There is yet you're, gonna love a material of Yalta by our guy with the kid future ahead of a kind of like a bodyguard house, in some version now not at all. I know I just have this window will anyway, point being point being that we know for instance, the earlier belief that now it in eastern traditions, such as Buddhism, is very easy to dismiss yeah, probably not correct, that's probably not correct, which I know sounds like waffling a little bit, but again it's ancient history hit. All you can do is waffle. There there's almost nothing certain in ancient history and then to add to the problem before again thanks forty five, a very important moment in this story. The little documentation that we did have about gnostic belief systems came often from it.

Predict they carry out their almost entirely from its critics right here. So for the longest time, almost everything we knew about the Gnostics came from heresy. Geologists for members of this group, you might call protocol orthodox people who were trying to identify bad aberrant strains of thinking in in their opinion and and teach people how to recognize them and how to get rid of get him out of your church. You know you don't want these bad ideas running around almost like sceptics for the relief nor, for the belief, the system of belief to bring it here it into another thing, you have to consider a source these gentlemen. So if we were just look, gets modern analogies, Jane is you wouldn T Trust Coca COLA is review of a new Pepsi product. Affect everyone wouldn't give some works at Chevy. You wouldn't expect them. You say you know why you know those quotas are bad ass. You know,

You said you were like the opposite. You would expect for them to have problems you're, never going to see even an oligarchy. Add singing the praises of a night out at Applebee's. That's just not how people or ideas Well, our all of garden in this case is going to be a second century. Church father named ironies of Leone, don't worry I'll know about irony ass. Well, I know that he is great at party than remember. I won't she was pretty much in an enemy of the nasty believe to the point of maybe being an alarmist well yeah he wrote a whole book about this pretty much it it's for short, is called against the heresies, but the real title of this treaty siren Yes, road is on

detection and overthrow of the so called noses, or on the detection and overthrow of knowledge, falsely so called yeah uses the phrase so called yeah so frequently what what is it? What does this term noses? Meanwhile, noses refers to certainly The concept of narcissism minutes is the idea of knowledge. Now, all Chris would probably incorporate the idea of knowledge of God right if you want, if you want to be a member of the true religion, you're gonna They know what God is like, but the gnostics emphasised there. Special type of knowledge that that it was the knowledge that was bad than the kind of knowledge other people had, because it was a more direct. More true, more

to my knowledge of the real reality about Geier angel yeah. It also focuses on knowledge from within as well corrects. That's there was one of the big ideas is that many much of the true knowledge that you are getting actually comes from within yeah. That was that there is a that there's this there's a true nature inside of you that wants to to realize the true Elmo's is more like an enlightened state like something that you had been read about in philosophy, as opposed to a religious text. It's very much. That's very true in some ways accepted that there also is a ton of common it'd mythology here that you'd have to incorporate, but so this guy ironies of Leone who wants to talk about the overthrow of knowledge, falsely so called he was worn, his congregation about the dangers of all these interpretations of Christianity other than his own,

and in so he talked about what the Gnostics believe he talked about how they were lives in sheep's clothing. They'd come preaching a message that sounds kind like what she would here in your church: you'd, ok, other talking about eternal life. Innovation and knowledge of gods. I think that's alright, but then he said Once you dig down deeper into what their teaching it's, this crazy, abhorrent horrible thing, that's going to leave people astray and straight into damnation, NEA Indict, Chauvelin twist it sort of is yes, it's the it's the end of the village for your religion, no spoilers! No, I would never, I think, that's a spy. I'm kidding. I would never tell your listeners that at the end of lost everybody is in a dream of a lawnmower. In the dream of a sentient lawnmower? Oh, come our way that show over what's the statute of limitations are spoilers anyway. This goes guys

This goes into. Another conversation know that the de facto everybody is a dream of a sentient lawnmowers, more like the gnostic myth than it is what's in lost there are other things. That irony is said. Is that irony, had this idea we talked about it when we get a minute ago is saying, is something that we were saying is probably not true. He had this idea. Christianity began as a single unified tradition. Everybody is on the same page and then later it split off and all these bad interpret rash, anonymous rock I found my church and then eventually people lost their way yeah, but most scholars today, of of ancient history and of early christian history just wouldn't agree with that picture. They see it's probably started very diverse the. He also basically said the north their immoral, and it is. These are David Bracky words, immoral and theological stupid, so both both bad people and dense and also

You can tell that he would completely believe and support rumours of lake strange orgies, baby eating. You know what I mean. I know it's funny, because people said that about his type of Christians, even though it probably wasn't true, I mean babysitter was a fairly com, then, with whose fairly common insulting the public discourse a pretty good, go to. Yeah I mean it was version of it now is unamerican. I've called two of the three of you baby eaters before you have it because you said it to me and not about me, and I appreciate, excluding me from that to be a fair, then you are sort of chewing on a baby. Look guys guys season about me. Or any any allegations, let's move on because we're getting to match the favourite character so one of the other things irony is talked about, as he explained, the mythology and theology of the gnostic school of thought, as he understood it, which,

One of the main take away is: is this by come as a surprise, some people, but these Christians believed that the God of the Book of Genesis is actually a horrible, false certain devil figure. Call the yellow, oh yeah, the birth. Beyond a doubt and until much more recently. Pretty much all we had was these: these Harris theology, these people writing about narcissism from an unsympathetic viewpoint, hit peace, so we didn't get their own story like what they would have said about themselves that is until one day in Egypt in nineteen forty five, when a couple were digging for fertilizer. At the base of the Jha Ball, alter reef cliff near a city on the Nile called Dog, her body, they dig up thirteen. Gene code to cease their crazy there. Some. There were sealed in earthenware, but these Jews were afraid right yeah So courtesies are basically, it means books,

he's, not scrolls gear, the things you pick up them when you're wondering around and role playing games, and they tell you about the world. Yes, a code access like the codex. You might often hear about ancient books called Kodak, something kodaks monolithic US guys. I don't know headaches, monolithic, us a one, it's gotta, be, it sure, sounds like it's there in a neck renown. They kind of Aer Lingus means abound book right and you see these Embezzle America is well re end. Now. Ok, here's the thing so adverse these guys. Don't want to open the content. Because in the end I love them for this respect them. For this I hate it. When I see people acting and acting Carchemish in horror movies in If this were a horror movie, they would dig up the jar they would open it. It would be Pandora's jar, something oil in some time.

We'll terrible. Pinhead comes our their faces with melter red or their faces would melt offers an excellent example, so save two years. So the thing is what I like about. This is: if you dig up a clearly ancient seal, contain from who knows how many years pass we do, but they did at the time. Today's absurd is brought tee by IBM, For businesses around the world today is an a restart. It's a rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM retailers are keeping their systems. As millions of orders move on mine hunters, are using IBM Watson to manage an influx of customer questions with a sigh and solution. Built on the IBM cloud are helping doctors care for patients remotely today were rethinking how business moved forward. So, let's get to it, let's put smart towards Is it IBM, dot com? Slash smart to learn more though we're part these days was sharing so Geico we'd, like

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Mr you agendas something inside from juniper bury right. It's a works, a revolutionise, the cotton industry, no eight age d J Ai in or just J ai in in it. A third creation of God in Islam. Third species, if you well not necessarily demons are angels. We ve talked began impasse discussion living. I had had the misconception previously that it was always exclusively and evil malevolent spirit, and you corrected. Maybe I believe in this situation that was likely the one they were expecting to the pop out That was the fear. Yes, yeah. I've always heard about it, as I wilderness Dwelling spirit of some kind re, their different classes of jet man. Ok, guys we're just gonna the new agenda for so when they occur there to faster with anyway, so that detail eyes, allegedly what happens in now as we, oh guys, the now a body library became very, very

was to extinction within just a few like days or weeks. Oh yeah discovery, because originally I think that one of the people came home to the house after they brought it home and found that somebody in the house had tried to an with some of the papers the car, the Seas yeah and so we lost part of what the library originally was, but I think I am I just out of necessity or where they did they. I fear the documents. I think they didn't realize what they work, but anyway there's so they eventually it passed hands a few times. I think first, they showed it to a local priest and then eventually came to the attention of scholars, but once got became aware of these ancient documents, the these courtesies they they realize they have. Very valuable and very interesting on their hands. So was a big collection of texts that were written in cop,

which is an ancient egyptian languages, so that the last station, the evolution of the if language over the over the centuries in came calm down the line from hieroglyphics, but written a Greek yeah rescript. It was a translation right yeah. The translation front, so the originals. These were cop, so they weren't original document, but they were copies of documents that scholars tell were originally written in Greek, because sometimes there be just the greek word taken straight over when there wasn't a good coptic word to fill in for it and nobody knows for sure, exactly when the originals of all the text, in this library were composed, but they think that the copies, had in these jars or in the jar, came from a but sir, between maybe three fifty four fifty see, but they could have been copies of much earlier works, we don't know said they had all kinds of things in em they had their christian literature there.

Some writings of Plato. They, like Platos Republic sort of, I think, annotated to be a little bit more gnostic friendly yeah. So they have either They have they had some hermetic literature yeah, which will see it, as Mr Crowley claim to have an intimate knowledge of. However, this this is important because, because, let's look again it in the unbelievable circumstance and end the the questions we will never be able to answer, which is. Why did someone put these jar? Bury them at this cliff, or did they very them? On purpose sounds like they did, because it was sealed. Another question: who was that person here we don't know for sure we parted when documents don't identify who their author was. I think one, That's often speculated is it was likely either like a monastery or somebody wealthy, because these are bound

send those were not available to people who didn't have a decent amount of money. So was either like it, institution that had some money to spend on these documents or it was a wealthy person? Probably why they buried there. I don't know where they buried fur protection, one fear of persecution yea. It could be that somebody valued these books in the theology they contained and said. Well, you know the churches, not so into people having com these documents anymore, so there in their that's a possibility, but we really just don't know what. But what we do know is it this fundamentally shook the foundations of just study in the West yeah, because now we have primary access to not what the Gnostics enemies said about them, but what the Gnostics said about themselves: but we got we got their own. Literature bears they,

Their enemy said about them, wasn't always raw. Now I mean they. In some cases were basically the picture hated by irony is riding in the year one eighty about the Gnostics he was aware of is not super off base its just very unsympathetic, Zoe off kind of a kind of a dense unfriendly reading, offering you known and not a generous portrayal of their understanding of things denote him. He had not generous, but not entirely inaccurate yeah. He didn't lie, or at least as far as I know, he didn't lie very much about what they taught. Yet he would just eight years what they believe, whose lay there immoral and intellectually inferior IRAN were because it was conceptualize within his beliefs, right yeah, so are the core gnostic beliefs like what makes somebody agnostic Gnostic

and how is it different than other Christians of the time or just other people in general? While we talk about this, listen to adjust to note here think about where you might have seen a similar philosophy, turn up in other places, the very interesting for people to find that Yeah sort of a Debbie Downer world view here he asked me not necessarily. This is an interesting thing that that that scholar I mentioned earlier David Bronchial autumn. As I said, a lot of my information here is going to come from him and I can alike. Take on it because he says you know it sounds like a downer world view to us, but it also as very positive points in some ways more positive than in some ways of looking at religions that do exist so so hang with me here for a second and see how much of a downer really is, but it is certain if you're not familiar with it, gonna sound, weird as heck. First

all core, gnostic belief, number one. The whole material world, including our bodies, is just for the entire material universality other Material University. I mean that by world everything made of stuff just socks, it's just awful its flawed gross and wicked. This world is not our true. How much are they would not have looked finally upon the Madonna's on material girl? No, no, they would be that is the antithesis not. This has in many ways the accepted that it might articulate a pretty well gnostic theology, from the other end saying like well, I'm fine being being confused befuddled creature of men, real existence who doesn't know my true in our light? But why is this so flawed? Well, the world is incredibly flawed because- and I mention this earlier- the God created. This world is not the true God, but a dumb, cruel,

bull Wanna, be God called Yalta both or also also parallel with this idea, or sometimes known as the dim ear. Bridge right and in some schools of narcissism, also called the craftsmen yeah, which I think is what demiurge me right yet actually in the etymology. It's me it's the the gray, Artificer one who who builds or create this world so in a way, this This creator is the source of the imperfection defined in the material world and cases me out about this I urge the is not aware that a higher plane yeah, he's kind of blank, or he might be sort of aware it's just. This is just not a good God, and can see pretty immediately why this made Christians man and they didn't like this- this alternate the owl

so is humanity just sort of a tragic, silly accident, no I'll get to that in the creation myth and a bit, but they well, it's it's a sort of humanity as a way of rectifying a tragic, silly accident, but our cereal bodies are no good. The material is garbage right, this Is a array quality in transition is maybe away to put it like that I, like that very much here, another court, and it is that our material bodies, as we said materials are bad, and so our material bodies are not who we really are. We come from a spiritual plain of existence, which is the plain of the true God. No The inferior creator of this disgusting horrible material world in its true God is largely indefinable, unknowable, comprehensible, yeah and then finally, one of the other man.

Tenants is that you can find. Salvation in achieving erect knowledge in achieving knowledge of your true origins and the true origin, the universe, the true org the nature of human beings and discovering them through participation in these very complicated myths of yes, and now it's time to actually do a case study in gnostic mythology and look at the gnostic myth, as presented by one of their scriptures. There was discovered in the non Commodity Library, but before I do that, we need to take a lesson from our sponsored. so I ve been talking a lot about the great courses and we are still very excited about their new, the great courses plus video learning service, YO, YO

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Here's where it gets praise Ok, now we're gonna look at what's in the secret book. According to John, is one of these texts contained in the novelty library? It's one of the core tasks of of the sad gnostic scheme. Of thought and I wanna presented. I want to give credit where credit is you I am presenting it as summarised by the scholar I mentioned earlier Dave Iraqi, because he has the great summary and explanation of it actually in his great courses series on non decision, which I highly recommend checking out so he's my main source on on what are about to tell you, but this is what you get if you read the secret book, according John, which you can read our line as well. I am so first of all authors. We don't know who actually wrote it claims to be written by the Apostle John. But you know I wasn't. It was written press

only some time between like a hundred and a hundred and fifty sea weed for sure, but it is an apocalypse, and this is a very popular form of religious rites. The time. In fact, the report there are apocalypse is in the christian Bible. There is the boy, of revelation sure that That is the view of the hot lips of John. What what revelation there is just the trick is the translation of the word apocalypse. It means and, veiling or a revelation of things. They weave export that point on the show before, because nowadays a modern. U S, usage, were english usage. It's often waited to mean just the disastrous yeah added a world or some bad, and I really just it it's a and enlightenment of sorts ye. I think it comes from the fact that that often these revelations did reveal things about the end of the world button. The bitter regionally apocalypse just meant revelation and though it is certainly true, that of a very popular thing for them

to reveal was something about the end of the world. Right now is it I guess who's gonna, where the next game right here you have to be elders. Your people in order to believing in what you're telling them right away, the secret book according to John this apocalypse to this, the disciple John, the Saviour appears to John after he's already resurrected, and it comes he's like listen, I'm until you the true story about everything, now you're how Europe can be a time for the real story. So are you guys ready buckle up trolling you for thirty three years so here it is. The true God is not there the Bible, the guy The Bible is a fake god. The true It is in fact this abstract, huge mine. Flickr Iraqis. Words are a vast intellect and this.

Huge mind, fundamentally cannot be known, are understood by human beings. It's this vast complicated but at the same time, completely simple at rest? At peace, incorruptible, perfect spirit of thought, originally originally you are. You are you with me so far sounds to me, like a giant quantum computer. The size of several universal and maybe a giant single thought. Well, actually it very there is so urgently is everything there is its ultimate eternal and at peace in this thing called it in Imbracus words, because it the invisible spirit That is actually what the Genesis Song invisible touches about. The true I'm not I'm, not a gentleman, when its I wanted to be true? Well, let's see Maybe they are listening to the show so right in guys, ready to, let us know right

While there is something about this invisible spirit that figures into that, because he wants to touch the light, the heat in our eyes- and he begins to think so I said he, but actually it is the are likely to say yet here so the invisible spirit it begins to think you when it begins to think the thinking produces an entity of thought, so it has a thought, and that thought is the first created thing known as for thought greek prone lawyer. That is a reflection. Of the invisible spirit itself, because if it's all it exists, what is the invisible spirit have to think about right, except itself so it thinks about itself and then that thought come sort of a copy of itself, so the four is a divine thought.

There is also known as an E. I never like self awareness yeah, and these thoughts are all known as yonder emanations from the great invisible spirit. Are you with me so far Oh yeah, we're about to go into the deep water. Ok, forethought forethought is also known as far below a word that we can translate. We don't know where it comes from now. The first time I heard it. Actually, I was a child- is watching enemy, film called vampire hundred d and there's a character to embark Barbaik lower though they presented below is well, I think it's character place, and so I checked it out I did some research at the library and that that's actually I learn about narcissism at a young age. No way, yes from vampire hundreds of lake vampire, utterly That's an important thing. You point out, you say character or place, because I think, with these divine with these days,

beings in the nasty mythology, the line between place in person is kind of blurred. Something else the invisible spirit could be referred to as a as an entity that acts like a person, but it can also he thought of his like a place you can go slowly swell Spirit thinks the e on for thought or bar bailouts and then, when God is thought of as a collection of a yawns or eons a search thinking all these thoughts and toll collection of thought, yawns known as the entirety or the fullness and the use of body system do that's exactly right to each e on as a counterpart of the opposite sex, making it this kind of male female partnership sociologist and e on. But there's like the e on us wisdom, which has the female main part of wisdom, but then also the male counterpart to wisdom. Ok, you with

So for me, be, then the envy the ball sphere. It looks upon the bar bailout and this act create, so spark called the auto Jenny, sir. The divine itself originate is the english term. Bracky uses its also the anointed one or the Christ, so it kind of like sexual procreation, between the abstract, invisible spirit and the bar bailout that produces the cries, and you can see how fundamentally offensive this would be to prove the orthodoxy of the time and perhaps listeners to some of you now nor to the mind, we are not preaching this we're empty the shine light upon this gas cover up. Theory, yeah, ok, so I just have really vessel, ok, furthermore below which is a thought from

the union also build spirit. It thinks a thought it he's kind of a mirror image type thing itself, then, when the invisible sphere, it looks at the mirror image of itself again it's sort of sex with it. Spirit. Those I want to create a second thing: psychosocial young, it emanates, has co, emanation, yeah. Ok, how are these these? These various Ellen supersonic like if you had animal, if you are going to make like an instructional cartoon about these various parts, what were they look like pure white light extending forever into the universe? Ya know I'd just kidding. I just made that up with something like I mean, I think that they dont have you quiet, You can like angels, they don't have like a corporeal know we're not that yeah year, these these things are more like since concept, but we're getting there were given to the creatures. Ok So this leads to act with that? There's this Barbaik low, invisible Spirit Union here this week

to the immigration of twelve, more so they're just creating thoughts all over the lazy arms that are separated our group's led by being the luminaries that serve the divine self originate and get an all their names and everything's. But ultimately here's where we get to how all the trouble started. As a you remember, I mentioned to get a minute ago how they all have male female cantrip counter rights or there's one e on called wisdom or Sofia and with is the lowest Deion yet created and she is female and she decides that she wants to think her own thought. Without the help of a mail account part of the mail was souci. She essentially wants to reproduce a sexually so to speak, and this is a mistake. A huge mistake. It is, it is The ultimate huge mistake, has ended. Answer she does it. She manages to reproduce asexually, but the e on she produces by this comes out seriously. Flawed

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together. We can do this So, even in this mythology, the female is the wanted screws everything sort of but she's also. She also ends up trying to set things right right. This is kind of the heroes Journey for Sophia, in fact, This is an interesting question. People of looked into like it is not just as a more more feminist friendly than than other ancient religions, and some people have said well. Yeah is for Ex wine series and run, and other people have said well now, it's not really. For these other reasons, I think it's and, if a wash it has, it has some more female friendly ideas in it has some less female, friendly ideas late by two to nose point it is. It is true has that that DORA moment that yeah moment, which is common in western religions, yeah yeah,

I mean a lot. Let's face it, I mean a lot of people controlling these ancient religions were men and a lot of em didn't think very highly of women right and strewed the gender politics, which can continue the junior politics you hear about the day were much much difference earlier weight of spiritual beliefs. So so we got yelled about with on our hands. Well, obviously, all about with has no place in the entirety. So what you gonna go while they gonna cast him out, so they cast out yonder. Both he's out of the heavenly realm Satan right now is now Well, I mean to them he might, but they dont use these term member of saying in the mythology. He is a stand in precisely that commonality were bad figure who cast differences, he's a bad seed instead of a rebellious force. He's just not perfect the world of perfect thought and wasn't was in one of the concepts that so few is actually. China cannot cover up like her

they like she was. I we have anybody you, yes, exactly she's, trying to hide it, so she throws them out and eggs. I want more parallel. I remember in the greek and roman tradition, volcano her fast is thrown from Mount Olympus. Becoming lame, also becoming the artificer of that panel that's a very interesting parallel, ok we got ya the both cast out by buying the entirety, but when goes. Unfortunately, he takes some of the power of the entirety with them. Promethean, yes, and then what he's out there. What's he gonna do he's just out there in the void, he's out he's outside of the integrity, so he's like what I'm gonna make a copy of the entirety die. That's what I get you're gonna make another one of those that I came from, but because he's dying. And mean, and not very good. He just flawed and pretty much every way he doesn't do a good job

Instead, he makes this horrible world peace, and a copy, the invisible spirits emanation of the e on. So You know the invisible spirit thinks thoughts and they become companions. These other beings Yalta Instead, it makes a bunch of I'd like beings to be in his court that are known as the rulers, and these are these evil figure. Is that are sort of God's helpers and the bad gods help. I just wanna, say forbear to Lake humanize, this strike concept, but it's an understandable thing on an individual level to want to recreate a whole. Ah, but he's kind of a dick about it I just have two yelled above doesn't think he's a bad guy in the scenario at all the elder. Both just is doing what he or she or it thinks What's that ran a really think they're, a bad guy, yeah HANS Gruber just wanted to sit on a beach with you. Now

thirteen percent right. Well, that's a euro! That's it! That's a point that we explore here That is why I say that the Euro, in crass. What I see as being a dick or whatever, but she lies to his creation scheme, does so he's created these rulers and he tells them. That there are no other gods, except for him, any demands. Loyalty from his yawns- and this is is bad news. The entirety gets wind of this and they don't like it. So there is some some fixin. That needs to be done right. There is that there is an act of repair that must be carried out and who does that all too will really falls to wisdom, because it's her fault for creating elder both in the first place, I thought so I'm gonna fix things and so what she does she timber wake up. She temporarily comes together with the e on known as after thought, and this pair

along with the barbarity of socialism, some teamwork here they try to reclaim the power The old both stole from the spiritual realm of the integrity when he left and add they kick things off by saying let. Have you all to both makes him humans, so influencing elder secretly yeah. They send an image of light in the form of a human actually the form of the entirety down to yield about growth, and this trick, all the boughs to creating the form of a spiritual human, so they make a human, but it won't become animated. But this is it The very mind is not a human with a body it's for the spirit of a human right, so then wisdom and the bar bailout tricky all the both in their breathing his spirit into the newly created human forms. The elder both does it, but this was bad idea for him, because in doing so he passes the power of the entirety that

going you was exiled into these created beings. And this means humans are going to be more powerful than Yalta, both in the rulers and that's no good. So they scramble to cover up the mess and what they do. Is they quickly crime, the newly created human spirits into bodies may from the matter of the universe that the Yalta both created bodies. Diverse, and this helps keep humans bogged down just kind of feeling Baffled and and unable to think clearly and also limits their power by all, by changing them to this rock and away by analogy yeah. I don't mean interesting way of thinking about it like that we're just there were just stock, we're just stuff, there's a nasty mire of material stuff, so now what her wisdom in the Barcelona do. Well, they get another plan they syn. Wisdom down in the form of after thought to hide inside humans and trade.

Dear them, back to knowledge of the spiritual round, knowledge of the entirety and so the huge salvation conflict, a nasty while the revelation of John, is that wisdom in the bar bailout are trying to bring the power of the entirety isn't in human beings back to the spiritual play. Meanwhile Yalta both in the evil rulers want to prevent humans from figuring out their true nature, figuring out their power and prevent them. I'm getting knowledge of the invisible spirit and of where they came from. So it's a battle over revelation of secret knowledge. The good guys want us to figure out, the truth about where we came from and the bad guys want to perpetuate the conspiracy right. And that in the cover up here in the cover them, yet I'm glad you mention and so that the cover up comes in the form of our. We get these false story. So the Gnostics said about the Bible that the other Chris,

believed and that you know that the jewish tax there that they adopted from the Torah the Book of Genesis, Gnostics, would say, that I mean that's all pretty much true as it goes, but it gets something's wrong because they believe Moses wrote it and they believed Moses was working from the incorrect assumption that Yalta both the true God, but in fact the all about the old about was not the true God. So it's full of just mistakes and stuff that the Gnostics tried to correct soap, a part of secret revelation: The John is that here He retell the Genesis story, but he fixes the parts. Moses got wrong and said. Actually what happened here, for example, in knows flood. Is that new yelled about with wanted to kill all the humans to snuff out the invisible spirit, but instead the

wisdom, came down and gave us some kind and preach to know. I revealed things in the no. I was able to save some people and preserve the spirit of that of terrain liking, fixes, I hope, reopened listeners that you all here, the airports around fixes right that it, ideas so fascinating to me that you know instead of in the biblical rough recollections of what occurred when no story than there actually to gods were two forms of guy. Those who are on very lying yeah forward. Safer than also destroy them. Any gives like a reasoning behind wanting to flood the world. Really interesting yeah, so you can have Jane, I mean this probably sounded as ridiculous to ancient students who are not part of the now six right as it does

people who are familiar with it. Today's like what is all this complicated stuff, where did they get this from right to it away, though right forget to the end, this is sort of a pretty cool. The Christianity, yes, but then also that there are gnostic tax that, in the same way, that this sort of rewrite the story of what happened in the book of Genesis. There also gnostic text that rewrite or at least offer a different version of the story we get in the canonical gospels. If you read Matthew, Mark and John there's some differences between them, but they presented in a sort of basically similar theology about who Jesus was right and what What's going on there, the gnostic scriptures are very different. For example, there is the gnostic gospel of joy, it's a retailing of the gospel stories. Was not found it now. Commodity, different gnostic scripture discovery, but just some brief features of this.

You does Judas Iscariot the one who in the old story, is the betrayer of Jesus. Now not the bad guy, but the hero Ryan This story is not so much concerned with the works or deeds of Jesus, but with his revelations so Jesus reveals all the secret history, the universe in his plan of salvation to Judas himself and the other disciples dont, get it and Judith helps Jesus slough off the sea and are worthless material body and descend to the higher plane by an and further his message of of Vienna revelation of the true knowledge, and so with this inversion of that of that story. For the ultimate Schuman villain of the Bible, even worse than Herod, right now for the ultimate human Dylan of the Bible, too. Surely be the more I got there. The hard so love you re, you're, all clear kid blow this thing and go out here is absolutely necessary for Judas to exist

the free and do what he did in order for salvation occur. So it's always manifesto thing for me just going back and looking at that story and how she does then, because vilified and it is evil. For allowing for salvation we'll see the nasty to the earlier point about diversity. Gnostics did not what was he gnostic today and did not always agree on these points. Just as good Christian denominations today. Don't agree on point yeah, so that that brings us to them in their various schools of so called narcissism, and this is gonna be point where we should introduce himself subtlety, because some things that people have called narcissism are things that Moderns there's might say: well, I don't know if that should be called narcissism. You know it sufficiently similar to say that it's the same thing irony ass is talking about in one eighty, or is this a different kind of thing for exam there are schools of thought. One of them would be Valentinian ISM after the really

Thinker Valentine us in the second century right right. So in this school of thought, this dna urge you, the craftsmen not inherently bad guy, actually or bad being actually, working in concert with is higher. This invisible spirit to bring about salvation soon. In other words, this is like the boy he, who is at the clean up site other environmental metaphysical disaster. Huh yeah oh and so. Valentinian ISM is one of these. It's like some early heresy, ology might have lumped it in with non disarray, and even some recent historians, my butt than other historians, would say no Valentinian ism. We should think about as its own, but the elder both in this is still flawed and is now always helping with

consent or knowledge, but instead being secretly influence. Another another flavour of early Christianity that was Ino, condemned, probably by the priority at but might also have been different. The narcissism with which it was lumped in is Thomas Christianity. You you may have heard about the gospel Thomas right. This is one of these early discoveries of of another gospel that may have even come from the first century, was an early writing. We don't know exactly when it came from. Well, actually we don't know exactly when any of these gospels came from, but we pretty good ideas about the canonical gospels Gospel Thomas was we pretty early and people used to say this is a gnostic gospel. And now we don't know for sure Jesus says things in it that sound, pretty gnostic, Then there are others that you know that their their secret knowledge, their secret knowledge. Revealed only to certain people,

then again, there are other elements that I think sellers what they know it needs to have its own category. So here's is another question o what happens last yeah. This is a good question because I mean, I think the tradition The story is well not this I'm lost, control for the battle of Christianity and approach, Orthodox church, eventually the Catholic Church One out and got to dictate what theology was across the roman empire and thus the gnostics where sort of eliminated from history, but I There is now an emerging strand of historical thought that this has that's it. That's, maybe not the case, it's more like Nastase ISM, as a named thing lost power, but it also in a way to define the path of Christianity doing so in the number one. Christianity, proto, Orthodox Christianity and early Catholic Christianity would partially define itself

in opposition in reaction to now this is also drove some theological statements in those and in other ways, you can still see gnostic ideas that seem to be incorporated into the lay theology of existing Christianity today, for example, think about I'm Christians today might say that them cereal world is evil and the only true reality is a spiritual one mean that sound. Compatible with what people would think of as normal Christianity today? But that also sounds a lot like a gnostic idea. Now, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for join in me. I know a lot of these views empty because Sunday, football seizing it, but I'm not gonna put on a fancy sue. I don't think the price of the ticket football game matters. There is enough, Take it right, but yeah, ok, yeah yeah! so condemnation of the material world or how about this is it?

then you ll see in Christianity Day that the idea that the world is not the way it was supposed to be. You know there's something flawed about the way the world is now well, I you could say that the nuts seems compatible with what most Christians understand from their modern theology, but at the same time, that that sounds pretty similar to some core gnostic teachings, and this is why it is a fairly common belief in many other religions, yeah and then, of course, there are other traditions that have continued throughout the years that the do seem to incorporate elements of narcissism so the men DE ends that you know that's a religion that that seems to be in I'm always gnostic yet and then oh ok, here's here's something we were going a little bit long on this by costs, but we hope here

join it here and we have some good news. This ancient conspiracy goes into the modern day. So, although not the system of the waste is your is defeated in name by what would become the Orthodox mainstream church. Those beliefs and organisations have been revived at several points in history, the leading to the present day. That's right! Now! If you wanna be enthusiastic, you can sign up to it. In eighteen, ninety Vienna, really been. I mean if you want to show me how in eighteen. Ninety of Rynch Library, name. Jewels diurnal found the idea in Greece no state Where are the gnostic church funny story? Eventually, he gave up a resigned converted to Catholicism because he fell for an anti masonic hopes called the taxable hoax later later, he joined he rejoined his own church is a bishop and then

thing for this became a part of a larger entity that church folded, but don't abandon hope. Yet folks, if you want to join up, you can consider spiritual descendant of this, the church. The gnostic church of apostles of the english Gnostic opposed to leak founded by Robert. Amber laying in nineteen fifty eight that church exist today in France, french territories in the ivory coast made western America gnostics also have tremendous impact on other figures there. Necessarily like religious figures, as raises the theosophical society, spearheaded by Madame blood, Its key who is not my favorite person by Euro deserves a mention. Why what's wrong with Madame Bull, that ski jazz, just not my favorite purse, that's the name thing I can say: wait! No, because as Crowley is pathetic,

easy, easy, swell. Guy way, he's also inspired by nasty thought in a secular way, get like this. Sexual magic bully fanaticism, young was fascinated by it: even a magazine that ran for short time called noses air in a burst of creativity, that within and I was devoted to the esoteric tradition, but it goes further than that listeners. If you look at some of your favorite works of fiction, you will see the gnostic belief carrying on today Like Neanderthal DNA in almost every yeah, sometimes I wonder how consciousness even is like it. Lots of science fiction. Novel and movies and stuff that have extremely familiar themes. If you read about narcissism, but you wonder, did the creators do this on purpose or is or is this sort of cosmic conspiracy theory, just a just. Does it run?

in our DNA yeah did do we do we naturally go to these places when we're trying to dream up what the truth about a crazy world might be like, but examples things like a blade runner or the matrix. What sort of way I met a idea like this is not the big picture we are experiencing here is almost a test, a cruel joke the eye and am once we are revealed the bigger picture. Our minds are: either blown or we are able to you now transcend too that reality. Yes, a painful audition the euro and the cosmic. They are trying to reach a back out to the to us and and give us these truths, through our media they found out media, is the way to actually get this knowledge back. Senor while yet so there there's. Definitely this theme about, like things being not how they seem, but also how about that the theme of creations rebelling against their creator when they find out how flawed and wicked he is yes

Did you ever hear of it? Have you seen em eczema canal, yeah yeah? That's that's it! That's a great straightforward, an ambiguous ending that when I want I really have nothing there. Yet ok goes at the end. It was all the earlier on our right. An ice cube ends up going like going back. And Samuel Jackson is eaten by the shark right and then there's weird cameo by Tom. Wait. I don't know what he was going for, but I liked it anyway makes him always have the lawnmower. Who is the voice of a lot more? I saw there there's other stuff right size, often steeped in Gnostic thought one of the one of these films- I saw it as a kid blew my mind, was dark city. Remember I loved I voted no holds up. It holds up and I'll buy you a super nasty, great yeah. There's nurse everybody lives in this. Everybody lives in the sort of bewildered dream stay where their sort of kept stupid by powers above them, and that there is

reveal a figure who wants to bring the light and make people awakened from their stupor and realize where they are and how they came to be there yet exactly in it There are other films like TAT, but who are complex, will comic fancier house of works in and I were, if we're not on the air. Sometimes we meet up just a tree comics I, but why really. I don't know you guys when the really impressed man, I was the invisible saluting. I've only read the volume of it khazar Christian, saying, you're my caused on step to blow your mind. Look at it, but he alone that to me- and I love I've, got to read more. I get the full said that you want to read that yeah yeah do well. Ok super We go and changes, they comic show where we have to do the following things we have to first are. Thank you so much Joe for coming onto the show is always a pleasure. For me a thing

so much for having me. It's been a lot of fun and, as I said at the beginning, unfortunately, I mean a nasty system. Is such a huge and fascinating subject? We have only scratch the surface. If you want to learn more about it, one of the main things I'd recommend is the work. The guy mentioned a few times on here, David Bracky, scholar, agnosticism, very interesting, very careful scholar and I like his work. So look him up. It look at his books or his great courses series on it and that's a good place to start no. What what was that? Look? You just gave me why you are you making shrimp eyes at me man. This is the way my eyes look. Ok, I'm sorry! It meant that worried me. I gotta make em vigour it no dislike it'll slits! No, no! Ok! Look! What's goin! On here gas! it doesn't have a camera. I dont want to make this awkward for you, Joe ok, but listen nor even then alluding to a thing, the weird via, are you accusing me of having an heine

accusing you certainly of being circuitous, but far be it for two surrounding choosing each other. That second word but this issue about uncovering the truth so late, honest man, I'm gonna yeah. You have alluded to this. What's the stuff of life all about gosh, you guys, the stuff of life. Thank you, that's my new show that I've been working on and you're right. I have alluded to it a few times just talking about things that I've learned, research that my colleague and our colleague, Julie Douglas, has done wonderfully as the host of the show. But my heart as I am the producer Did you know every cloud has to work shows, but as many of you guys know that largely consists folks, in a room having conversations so the extent of my production on many of those is new, editing and doing in a sound design here in their music using other than to the original music written shows. But

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