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it some dear? It's one of those things where it's so prevalent this, moreover speaking today. I should say what it is predicted, programming and It's so prevalent on the internet. When anything occurs, there is so much media that exists and is so many things happening that when find the little connective tissue is theirs was that Eureka moment, and it just happens all the time now. Maybe maybe we get into this too, with an anecdote Several years ago you I made video about. The Illuminati card game. He has less in the Illuminati card game there are there certain cards that people who believe in predictive programming have pointed to as evidence of this practice, I think

specifically the twin towers, etc. The twin towers was one about a terrorist attack. There were so many, though deepwater HORIZON rule. Twenty ten was one in again in their video, I guess when spoil any there right now about kind of what we found out about the card game now go ahead, laid up, ok, so You have been so many versions of that card game. Over the years the cards have shifted and changed little bit. The artwork has been altered exactly what stated on the cards has been altered and then, when you're on line- and you have people posting images about- you know here, look at this from this game that came out in nine something you know, it predicted the world trade, because of this card when enact reality, that card was further to the original World Trade center bombing. Heard in the nineties right in and or it was changed now because of other you circumstances

and actually occurred in the real world after it was put out. It's just this thing how things shift over time and when is posted on the internet. It could be from any I'm throughout the span of the cards history? Oh should also point out that it's a fine game really fun gay. I was so happy. Does you introduced me to it? I'm gonna! Oh you for that one also. I was thinking. Should we play that game with with with you neighbours, if we ever run into each other, real life or Matt, should you Paul Nolan. I make a game of our own. We could we make him came around We could live stream stuff, they don't want you to play we will put a pensioner, but But yes, that's it. That's a great example of an allegation of predictive programming. Here's what we mean, specifically, we say there is a basis in truth. In decades past

U S, government would assemble groups people to help them predict the direction of future technological breakthroughs, and they consulted: scientists and technocrats, but they- also asked science fiction, riders to join in this think, tank Mary Ann several of these writers, it turns out had already successfully predicted the broad looks over certain aspect of technological, ask or social changes, and they had depicted these events in works of fiction. A lot of people this is just it speaks, the human imagination? What can what images and ideas can we conjure and our heads before it becomes reality and it's really honestly its inspiring and our species ability to dream beyond the limits of this moment of what coming right now at things that I can possibly do today to what I could do

in the future. Because of x I mean that's incredible: that's what separates us. While there are lots of things a separate us, but that's one of the major things that separates us from other mammals are given the chills that is inspiring, especially the way you put it there. It is it is one of the primary separations, but it's not all like the angel, forts and trumpet the sky. You know there there's a dark side. The people see here because for others. This stories I clap collaboration, is only watching the surface is a relatively benign example of a much widespread and according to them, sinister practice, fringe researchers, the? U S and the glow believe that nefarious hidden group our guiding the public through the use of this predictive programming. So let's look at the facts when we look at the idea of fiction there are no luminosity game or a film depicting act.

Cool events in the future. We see two fundamental factors a play immediately. Now that the Is what the creators are trying to do? It's it's not a secret that people who right screenplays and write books actors of television and movie they often our attempting to depict what they think the future is going to look like what might happen in the future. If you think about nineteen, eighty four, the novel or brave new world these or to cautionary tales of very different from each other in all, quite similar there. There men too, UK as much as they are meant to warn and retain their day. They function on a whole lot of levels, yeah yeah ninety four as one of those books that then, after having read it multiple times, I still don't know I would say I'm entertained by you know what I mean sure

definitely airs more on the cautionary tale side, but you're a year actually rioting that such a great point, these authors in these creator, are not working in a vacuum. The are attempting to enact some sort of change. The world, whether it's just the making one story better or one story richer. Whatever we want to say about it or as in the case of a breed brave new world? It's the question of Dost Thou entered in too much me, that's yes, and these Authors could also depict something more aspirational like what the future of humanity could be. If we ever. Can you get our collective business together? In turn, must our STAR Trek met there? star, Trek, T Angie was the thing they like made me go. Ok, we're gonna be ok, for the future is going to be an amazing place. Can't wait to get their rights

it say: it's a post scarcity economy, right, there's, Not income inequality and the species spends its time exploring straw. New worlds and attempting to enrich. Their knowledge of the galaxy and the beautiful universe in which we live, also having more or less constant war or uneasy, truces. With various alien empires, probably story- different episode, but yet STAR Trek aspirational. Imagine what we could be exact, and then you could even have a holodeck, I mean come on, that's what I was for you know it was. It was the big picture stuff. I hated the holodeck up. What's it all, I always felt it goes gettin tricked. I felt you know who this is. In my opinion, one person's opinion of two here, everybody else's opinion. On this I felt as if the act

there's were pushing this on writers and the producers and saying well, you know I've. I've done some Shakespeare before you targeted specifically about El Capitan I don't know I don't you know, I don't know who it was. A guy. I have suspicions by campaign. On any single actor occur, and maybe it was just. Maybe I just felt like a balance Oh yeah, I think it's a writing device that then people in the writers room can go while we ve been. Stuck on this enterprise for a long time and all these episodes- that's that's. Do a western yeah, they could be that it could also be something as you in these big machines. Every television shows a huge machine of its own, so it could have been something behind the scenes where they said. Ok, look we Have this left over set for showed it get used. Are we have to use it?

and sorry start, Candy. You drew the short straw, the sign so writers room, chop, chop some, with a holiday or maybe the sets about to get torn down, hey grinders, let's find a way to use it quick. We we have a lot of time, thinking of a figure others out, you know I bet someone out there has a has the real scoop, the street poop as I'd say gun, on the other, the origin in those hollow deck episodes, but there is another thing that comes the play when we consider this idea of fiction purposefully, predicting actual events in the future, usually bad ones, and that The danger is deceptive traits the human mind yeah, it's not just the people creating the fiction in the entertainment. It's the people who are consuming it actively watching an area right in theirs

this assumption that is so prevalent in the past. And today that goes like this- someone watching a film or reading a book even to a lesser degree, is passively experiencing the visionary creation that the author made or the director major, whoever by in actuality all odds, members? Are collaborators, whether it's a piece of art like a skull, whether it's a television show whether it's a we are helping to create the story by the. Mere active, observing and interpreted it what this means is that will really self obsessed pathologically and don't be yourself up if you feel like this is

an unfair characterisation or if you feel bad, you think I'm a little bit narcissistic, because every body is an everybody is and we're all the main characters of our own stories, the centre of our individual universes, the brutality Mr Round, which this great world swings In addition to this, we are also than TAT thickly, talented analyzes and pattern recognizers, it's one of the reasons our species runs so much of the planet rather than say and octopus, race or a US Cooper, intelligent empire of Corbett's. I want to see those I would be Superman the crows that around the World Why was that? a car in the distance away. I'm really work heard. It are we predictably programming the eyes of the Corbett's. Yes, I saw this this is dangerous, because, with this perspective right as a starting point, we can make two assumptions we

say a pattern exist, because perceive it to exist. And because we are the most important thing in our experience. Every pattern we perceive inherently in some way applies to us one thing that people don't like to hear in general, is that there's something big going on and has nothing to do with you. You know what I mean: I mean that's why so much scientific literature became so virtual Charles Darwin when you releases the origin on the origin of species in eighteen. Fifty nine he said Oh no humans special you're, just you're you're part of a thing were part of a pattern part pattern is visited long before you continue long after you are dust yeah, whatever Darwin get out of here repay you go back to Looking at islands

get back on legal, but that's that's the problem and without going to or into the weeds on this. It is essentially means that you and I and paul- and everyone we're. We we are neither neutral gaiters. Nor are we a neutral audience, We are at an impasse, because if no one's objective then where's the truth. Ultimately, oh man, this sounds like an even bigger episode. But but it's by what what's gonna just talking about the nature of truth? We touch on it. We once in a while when we get into discussing sources of news, but when you really think about it, this way from us from that deep of a psychological perspective makes the mind wander of it. Yes,

and we know that this pattern recognition can also be used to make to mind wander because we're, in addition to being Endearingly self obsessed We are also big fans of follow. In rituals and queues and social, more aid, more patterns to recognise easily swayed by subtle. Changes in everything a form others agree book called the Illuminato trilogy, which I think we ve talked about before, and I just want to put this lynxes one reference to this kind of social hacking Its worthy Illuminati game finds its origins, button oh yeah, no way really cool so, this novel witches credibly. Incredibly long presented as as trilogy of smaller works? It depicts number of things in a rather convoluted plot, and we don't want to spoil it for you.

But there is one scene, and there were some when changes or adds to the signs at this department store ultimately high in department store. That has something like the kind of thing you would read outside of a fitting room lightweight for an attendant to help european the additionally make as they just put no spitting. Oh ok. So let me nobody to do that anyway, linguists bit, no one should be but the about it. The the subtle change in that form makes people think this is a place a much lower socio economic class. This is a place where People are just spitting on the floor. You know like a road house in a movie. Oh this was conviction, but this kind of stuff can work and work really well.

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here's where it gets crazy Alan would described predictive programming as a subtle, of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with plan, societal changes to be implemented by our leaders if and when these changes are put through the public will already be familiarised with them and will accept them as natural progressions, thus listening possible public resistance and commotion. When I, when I hear the word, avail in one day, always feel that there is truth It just sounds like there is against about how he writes now how we see how he spoke, but what I am hearing here is something

that I've heard for a long time about the concept of aliens and the concept that movies and television and novels for decades and decades have been prepping humans to to except the aliens have invaded or, to accept alien races from other planets, extraterrestrials to being part of our world and I'm again when you put it in that way, our leaders subtly psychologically conditioning Us- I don't know almost sounds like it could be real yeah. We think so I was leaving, sounds like it because of that women's rights are telling you that I think you're bringing up. A really crucial point here. One of the

primary examples of predicted programming that the advocates of this belief point out is almost always can be Sir Terrestrial Study, rightly slow decade long preparation for disclosure Hagen Spielberg was right aliens around. We thought the best to tell you instead of Given the mandate off we we thought we would tell you over over, like sixty years gay used to get. You know, settled settle end to this type of weirdness. Slowly, oh yeah. That way, the reaction is you no less our God in its world wow cool, adding that the whole point. If you believe this to be an error, millions of people waiting to go, I knew it. Yes knew it the whole time. So what are some other examples of this? there are so

stinkin many of these gay, let's start with the top one This one Ben you put in the outline first, but this is the one that I about when we even said the phrase predicted programming in its the pilot episode of the loan gunman, which you know if you were in files fan. You know who the loan gunman argue watched the loan gunman when it came out as a spin off, and it was awesome her, but in the pilot episode it feature this part of the plot, in it an attempted, coming or destruction, at least of the World Trade Center, the twin towers and Specifically, it was hijacked commercial airliner that would flown into the World Trade Center and it was a false. The attack by you know this rogue group of government officials- and you know, since that came out before these

timber Eleventh two thousand one attacks. This is look that as well these guys knew something right they put it out there they're trying to war. Said this was going to happen in a lot of speaking about it. Early early on when it occurred, was warning rather than a predictive programme getting used to it. It was like somebody's they tell us that this is going to happen here. Yeah, and this is, as you said, incredibly prevalent example is brought up continually, but it's not the only example right now there was one either we found reference. Seen the film the dark rises by Chris for knowing there's a map in the dark night rises that has a location marked sandy hook. Yes, commissioner Gordon's, going over the attack plan for

no going in its wits the scene right before they actually go into the the stadium one of the big climatic scenes. There, soil are alert for the dark night rises. Well, yeah there's a map in it does say sandy hook on it, so thou ones not nears persuasive, though. Because sandy hook is a place. Yes, yes, the reason why it's weird causes as strike his one in it came you know usually what this has to do with our release states, where proxy of release states being before you know it say some given time frame the year or two or even month, sometimes yeah. Again, that's the nature of the perception yes site. We found the pattern and another example would be family guy. Your family guy is replete with cutaway jokes intention said

really go anywhere system. It's a quick bit, but there's an episode or a gag in the family guy episode. Rather, they concerns the Boston Marathon in episode called Turban cowboy that that came out and there's a scene in it or, let us say the scene or break away a cut away to a quick thing where Peter Griffin wins the boss, the marathon by driving his car through all of the other competitors, and kills a whole bunch of people and then later on in the episode you might know this. Just from the are you my gleaned from the top all turban cowboy Peter, Accidently joins up with a terrorist cell and uses a cell phone to call his body mock mood and up setting off to bombs because of he's using the cell phone or whatever, to tell the family guy has an ongoing tendency to be pretty racist, breeze

and you know yeah these push the boundaries. Let's say they push the boundaries creatively there right right ends. This this example, of course, makes people believe in predict a programme you think they were somehow depicting the leader disasters that what happened in the past America, yes, there's another example: the movie knowing right The You mentioned the deepwater horizon catastrophe at the top of the episode. Knowing has something to do with this. He s a hope. If you have not seen knowing its a two thousand nine Nick Cage Movie and it's all, based on predictive programming Chile, or a different version of predictive programming birds and codes hidden amongst things that mean other things and predict the future. In in that movie right in

opening seen Nicholas Cages watching television in all the news comes image and a new story about an oil rig, on fire in the Gulf of Mexico, and and this is a two thousand nine movie a year later, the deepwater horizon disaster occurs where an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico explodes, and I think a lot and people were missing immediately when it occurred and in with your wife. Television at the time immediately when the news footage came out, it looks easy similar to the full, that shown in the movie, knowing that you might have seen ok, so this footage is Georgia. Is it a crucial part of the film or is it something that just happens in the film? It's something that happens within the first few moments. In its literally a television, that's being shown, you know, camera is shooting a television showing the news.

So? It's not a massive thing is just giving you can occur events, yes, any story, even though it is you can undressed I could totally understand, though, how somebody would be would see that theatres and then see the evening news later if they caught him at nay or something like that. That's disturbingly out put year perspective, is now Nicholas cages sitting on the couch or whatever, watching the television that you watch Nick Cage watch in any You know I could see where that would be at least creepy people yeah, absolutely Albert the We know we talked about family guy, but the grand family guy, the Simpsons. They have an incredible track record of predicting various future events and trends in the like this in honestly could be whole episode. Use hey what how did this,

since we know that oh boy, yeah and there's one that you have brought up off air before too oh yeah. This is this- is a great one year, this all over the internet mostly on Facebook, is where I've seen it and a couple of her blog sites, every posted it, but it's the The Donald Trump Presidency, theirs so ok. On June, sixteenth, twenty fifteen Donald Trump announced that he was going to run for president, and you remember the whole deal. Come down the escalator waving two people of their people on the back, Can he with signs? Well, warning to numerous posts. Year. Two thousand the Simpsons made this episode, which is truly made an episode called Board Bart to the future and, according his post? Not only did they predict the term presidency, they also predicted the exact way in which his campaign would be announced again. Everything for people standing on the balconies with signs to tromp, going down the escalator

uncanny it's insane into the exact same sequence: here's the problem, and you'll notice this, if you, if you actually watch a clip from these, suppose it simpsons video the the animation quality is very high and you imagine the animation quality ill, let's say fifteen years later, at least solely to twenty team compared to two thousand church. It changed a lot and. And then you do a little digging and then you really All of these posts are actually being taken from a July. Twenty fifteen promotion of the next Simpson season, which ethically its a video. There was posted the Youtube Channel, Adam Animation, on Fox July: seventh, twenty fifteen, when it was posted in its called trumptastic voyage season, five, the Simpsons

and what it is is a perfect the creation of the event rather than a prediction of the announcement of what was going to happen But the really interesting things if you go back to the two thousand episode, the part to the future there they do speak directly to but- being president? But it's just an aside. I think it's Maggie who says this Big Alcott, there's so much to explain here, but it's in the future. It's like a vision of the future within the world of the citizens, and in this vision of the future I want to say is Maggie there have been a baby, but now grown who mentioned something about. This something about how horrible the trump, legacy- was there trying to fix like all the budget or something that's it throw away line essentially, but as a joke of Trump was president

This actual. This actually happened. Yes before the trunk presidency, but people being completing this with the later recreation of the campaign, oh yeah. I guess it would be much more compelling if this was actually what happened. And this is just name in a few weeks idea there so many there. So so many and our first immediate questions are pretty easy rape. How is this do from a single creative team proposing here picking a social change, they think should happen in off with, like the start, Example, or let's say that the creek Of the Simpsons really thought no. The world would be a better place and the best way to get it there is for us to push the greatness of a Donald Trump Presidency ripe.

That, like how is different in this case in this instance case their implying that it was a bad thing for a tab and right yeah. It was a It was in it was a joke. Soundly is kind of a throwaway just when you know sort of filling the air and then the other car is how are these events different from you know, an accident. No, I know, as. Patterns seekers. Fans of all idea of we're, not big accidents the idea of something being in accidents or a coincidence or just happen, without a real purpose. Behind it. First things first from a psychological angle. There is a problem with this idea predict appropriately, because We tend to

Model our behaviour base less on an object or an event in more on a characters, reaction to the object or event. This great experiment called Bobo Doll, the Bobo Doll, experiments in this is, above all a clown bobo. The cloud readable loudly I'm going to bed glad to leave all right, here the do and the wave when we were passed his part yeah. He come back and knows stay out of this. Just Albert Ben conducted an experiment a series of studies using we punching sad clown called the border and they got to groups of children one group. Each kid was shown a short film of an adult hitting the doll just

makin the grease paid off it in the other group, the adult in the film ignored the doll. And after watching, whichever filmy were assigned to each kid was put in. With a variety of toys, including a Bobo doll, the children, I've been shown the aggressive video overwhelmingly mimic the adult and beat this not out of the door, while the other kids just ignored it cause that's what you're supposed to do. So this means that if we see. If we see something depicting a future, and allegedly, what we really paying attention to psychologically is going to be how the characters with whom we identify react to it. It's not it's. Going to be. A world trade center attack, it's not gonna, be the Boston Marathon, it's gonna be. How did the lunch loom Gunman react to this? How did how did Peter Griffin react to this? You know what I mean

And it sounds like a small difference, but it becomes increasing Clear. This is strange because the primary plank of predictive programming as a theory is the idea that, if We see something in real life. There we saw depicted in fiction. We're going to have one of a reaction ray we're going to have resigned, indifference or one quote: a half hearted protest, We see something in real life. There was predicted, ok, if we say oh the the CDC in Atlanta, blew up, what we saw several movies about that earlier, so you know what is ok, that's the idea but what we see from the science behind this is that the

idea that just portraying something more or less the same reaction, regardless of context is incorrect. There, to be context to the pattern to the action that we are observing, so the all itself. The object, or the event is inherently, Can we one thing or the other? It's going to be, how people react to it soon, hitting the doll, someone ignoring the doll? That's what people in modeling ok! Now I'm going back and applying this to all this stuff, including the the Trump presidency, man I'm going to re, evaluate all that now. Thank you, then has a hustler so there's another thing we haven't: even we have even discussed yet, which is that this type of prediction in some form of mass media does really occur occur in its inaction it completely in accident. Consider the

early prescient story. They die you and mentioned before. We talked about the show before that EDGAR An po had vision of survive. Cannibalism on about you the only novel he published the narrative of Arthur Gordon Pimm of Nantucket in eighteen, thirty, eight, oh yeah. This is this is a baffling poets and didn't, even if you consider yourself a very, very sceptical person, you have to admit it. The mind, I think this might be the best example that I've ever heard so, partly through the book the narrative of Arthur Gordon PEN of Nantucket, the crew, of a ship called Grandpa's like Crampness, but with a jeep fight themselves on a damaged boat. They have no food and they have no water, they managed to catch a tortoise and eat that, but eventually to survive,

resort to cannibalism. They draw straws to figure out which one of them will be sacrificed to feed everyone else. The death strong Bab his head his hands in his feet or thrown overboard, his head, his hands in his feet or thrown overboard, and this keeps the rest of the crew alive, a little bit longer, but the the Ass to members are still on the brink of death when there are finally rescued poems I thought it was a really silly story quote very silly: improving accurate, very silly loser his words until that is in eighteen. Eighty, four: in real life, when a yacht named the minuet left England headed toward Australia. The format crew barely escaped in a lifeboat, but they didn't have enough. Who they didn't have enough water to drink. They did catch a turtle made it, but

like the people in the story by poets, forty five years old. At that point they resorted to. Cannibalism, specifically of seventeen year old, named Richard Parker in tat insane, that is, that is legally I honestly the craziest version something like this that, I think has ever occurred gap I am at a loss for words still thinking about it. You know I mean it's so crazy in a really does make you rich evaluate the life of pi movie. With Richard Richard Parker, the yeah, the name, Tiger here soon This is really weird thing too, because it's a spot on We also just seeing what we want to see. You know that is the question. And there's an elephant in the room right.

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this is so this is what would happen. These are things we consider from different angles, but the big, the big concern here, the ass. He said the elephant is there this seems in every single case. Like a very very There are three very complicated plan: gas and the the motivations for the machinations. There, for me and in the house, much work you'd have to put in to get the Simpsons to predict something so that you would be as the public that we be ok with something in the future. Baffles my mind, at some screenwriter who wrote pilot for her This tv show the spin off the x files new

there was this plan that was gonna, be enacted several years or a year from then but tears whatever it's. Why. Why? How much planning would have to go into that rights? The average play would have to go into it publicly much less how much play will have to go into it for it to occur in secret near some out here I mean that easily hundreds of people, kid you're talking about getting people. Approve a script. I mean just that alone. That process is not an easy. One. I don't know man will each is it eggs, almost double think our of us to believe in this because we ve walked through it. Choirs as to believe that not only is work of fiction being made with knowledge Future events. Certain knowledge. The absurdity about this, but also the

The creators of the work are either in cooperation with some. Shadowy cabal or their members of some shadowy cabal that has vast near omniscient control over events in the real world, but is still say you know like eyes. We shall also make movies yeah and these people are also ok with these terrible tragedies that occur right, this mean that if it were true, someone new catastrophes like nine eleven we're going to happen, additionally, rather than preventing the disaster, they had enough time to make a high production level story about something completely different ultimate for the sole purpose of including a passing reference to a real life event in the story. Seems like a massive amount of work for relatively small return. I I dont get it man. I do

I think, in order to believe this fully, you have to really have gone down the rabbit hole of believing that every person that's an elite of any sort is working together for bigger mass conspiracy, here we have found over the course of our time digging into all sorts of strange stuff. On the show we have found that its, not less likely that one group actually rules world a lot more likely that there are several groups who are all vastly entitled and above the law who feel like they should run the world and they don't get along. I wonder if, if you do subscribe to this theory, you maybe even as conspiracy, realist as we all are in this, who can This voice right now. Maybe you imagine that these are groups working

against each other with their predictive programming efforts. Ah I, like that spin there. I like that angle, because It would also help at least to float the the inevitable problem of different predictions occurring right. That's really smart, there's also there's another ring going which is kind of a cod propaganda, works best when woman simplified and even today, books and films are banned by governments around the world. Books and films are banned by governments around the world and also propaganda is produced My governments around the world or by think tanks or agencies people with some sort of agenda, whether their fervent nationalist, whether they are racial supremacist of some sort, they're they're out there. And they want to have

story where their agenda or their goal is presented as the right thing, the best thing- and I know I'm mentioning I know, I'm a mention groups like nationalist and supremacist, but that's barely. The surface is like everybody now say people who meet here which cause agnostic. It's a technique that does not fall under the per you of any one particular group of people that you might of his evil, where they might think of as good. We want to save. Coral reefs are absolutely capable of doing the same kind of things that you would from another propaganda entity yeah happen to believe that they have truth on their side. That, that's just me you believe in the coral reefs yeah, I think the real turns out, while some of them are not real. Ouch has learning about some off, I think, is the job

the coast and Pierre was taught him. Others where there are fake coral reefs, Artificial reviewer, really fascinating stuff made out of rubble, but there still- you are is through the coral bo, their reefs they're, not core. That's all. That's very good We met linking they differ. Bringing that bringing to light. Finally, is one big coral doesn't want you to know seriously man rebar and concrete to do just wonders for fish and needed to be. Ed for a whole did just one. Still in oceanic realms ban, my other called me panicked. The other day about the Great Pacific garbage patch I think he honestly hadn't ever heard of it before. And you know this- is something that maybe you listening to this- have heard about it before. It is a massively troubling thing. Is happening.

Huge amount of plastic and other garbage. That's just there. Like. We need to do some kind of episode on it, because my dad was genuinely terrified and felt like the world is ending because of this. Well is certainly not a good thing. We absolutely, but I think, Imagine it in seeing some of the imagery that the news was putting out about it was was fear inducing anything. Is worth us discussing, maybe future allowable at what could happen, sure yeah, can also talk about what Recycling actually helps. That's great. Because a lot of people in the west at least are I don't know are doing a ritual where you put I'm trash in a blue box Do tell yourself that making a difference in, I think, that's a sincere thing we recycle here. They are

but a lot of places when come round to collect the garbage. The things from those Dubai His go in the same dumpster help, so I don't know Times I don't want to make a huge sweep. Statement about it, but it, but it's true that does happen so, yes, let us know we should examine when it comes to recycling when it comes to the great garbage patch we did episode on ocean acidification and we did yeah, and you know that it's scary, and why are we using the whole, the plasma methods of breaking down turning it into slag unusable gases. You told me about that years ago they had the technology in Japan right. Do they ve doing this for decades? in Japan in a couple other places turning their their trash into energy and usable building materials. Why are we doing this guy's

While there is a massive tended. Ok, look: let's get back to this really fast. So are we predictably programming the audience? Oh? Is that with this? Is that what this whole thing was Paul Bruin on this. Oh my god, man, I've figured the best way for you to learn this On the air, without with no proof you made me a part of this whole mind too late. Now pretty soon we can ever George Soros, Warren Buffett Bill Gates and who else Oprah Alice Cooper, they're going to walk in and do a slow clap the bases, maybe maybe fearsome, beast the owner

No, I don't! I we don't have any celebrity illuminati that that are coming by an, although today, as we recorded, this Dhabi digs did drop by to appear on a show or PAL Choctaws called movie crush, so do check that out. It was awesome. Did you like that? Organic wait. Her factual ran Doth thinks yearly, sometimes recur. Media, the Mat Frederick of us, smooth well the tremendous complement one I don't deserve five. If you're, if you're thinking to yourself, what did I miss any one of you know send us something if you have any questions or comments about anything we talked about today. Have you noticed that a different version of predictive programming- and you have a really good example, or you know what you think, it's hogwash, You should write to us. You can find us on social media where we are conspiracy, stuff on most of them. Sometimes, conspiracy, stuff show you'll find us, you can do it.

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