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annual Average Otto Insured savings by new customer service in twenty nineteen potential savings will vary. count very and are not available in all states and situations welcome to stuff you, minister, three glass. A production of I heart radio hello unhappy Friday. I'm trying to be Wilson, then I'm Holly fry this week we looked back at the nineteen eighteen flu Pandemic We had already been an episode on back and twenty fourteen. It's not something we have never done before. I dont think like gone back. Industry visited an entire episode. We ve updated stuff before we ve talked about stuff in unearthed, but to sort of revisiting a whole topic. some new experience was kind of a new thing

originally intended that we would spend a little time and that up so just kind of check in because we ve gotten lots of questions from listeners about how're. Each doing I feel like recorded that episode at the very beginning of the pandemic. I felt like I was in you know, relatively good spirits,

very, very fortunate in a lot of ways. I was already working at home by already had a home office that was a dedicated working space, so a lot of adjustment that people had to make in their working lives if their jobs allowed them to work from home. Like I didn't have to go through that adjustment period, Ray had already had it, but then the stretch of time. I will just call it from October to MID January. That was not great bet that that, like there are a whole lot of people, we would normally see that time of the year who we did not get to see. We had to cancel all of those trips, that's when it gets so at colder and darker in Massachusetts things I am a little partially. I think, thanks to this

but I was like okay, I got to get on this exercise bike because sitting here doing, nothing is making me feel bad in my body and soul right. So I feel, like I have returned to the more generally coping place, a recognizing that I just I'm incredibly fortunate to be able to be in a more relatively coping place here at the tail end of February. Twenty twenty one come embarrassed to say I'm great yeah. I still love be an homo time. Obviously I don't love all of the things that played out last year, but in terms of personal, wife, yeah. This has been a delight here- is I'm everybody's experience of of being homelike. Everyone has different stressors right. Folks, who are you know, maybe at home with me,

children and are trying to work while also trying to home school. Small children, like that's a whole level of stress, what's been weird for me, a lot of people. Fact about how isolating it is to have. We know not as much contact with other people what's been weird to me is never being alone cause that I love. I love my spouse he's great before he and I got together. I had been intentionally single for like seven years and being alone and independent was so really important me so like, for example, instead of having some kind of bachelor at weekend. I went the main by myself in February and now ever being alone has been weird yeah I could see river will be tricky for you. I still feel like there's a part of me. That is so, centred enough to make everything about me, and I, like I hext the world by saying too many times I wish I didn't have to go to death

The New York allay wherever cause, I traveled so much for work, and I could just be with you all the time yeah I wish was granted Sime sorry to the world's This week there has been at you know what a tweet floating around on Twitter. That's like! What's the thing you did in February that you think personally cost this and it's all kinds of stuff, like people have had all kinds of like random things. For, like I decided to sign up for voice lessons re ass. I decided for the first time start saving for occasionally go all kinds of random decisions that he will manner like. That's how I feel like edgings to the entire world yeah. I just promised Mr Burns the cat that I would find a way to spend spend more time with him now. If it is here

working. Now that we're done with, like our updates, how we're doing working on these episodes wow was a frustrating experience in a different way than I like. I, when I was making a list of things that we were going to talk about, I was like we're. Gonna talk about mass, were going talk about ventilation or not talk about lobbies. I didn't expect to find so many things that felt like parallels in terms like a lack of preparedness and a lack of cohesive plan and a lack of everybody being on the same page about whether it was even a serious thing that needed to be dealt with or not re, and I capping, like we ve, made the same mistakes in night. Eighteen, where make we made them again, we made the man we made them again, that's really frustrating when the pandemic was first starting

kept seeing mostly historians and medical historians talking about exercising caution in trying to look at the nineteen eighteen pandemic. As like a forecast of how covert nineteen was going to go because there are a very deep social and economic factors and play ray, and a lot of the thread was about like how bad the pandemic was with bad, translating to how many people died and One of the things that just became so frustrating to me was the sort of a lack of a sense that, like that, the deaths are one aspect of it: the the year long fear and chaos. Loss is like also a measure of how bad the pandemic is an

man, we ve done a lot of the same things during covered nineteen, as happened in nineteen eighteen guess I have my uncharitable takes on why again, yeah yeah I mean it is it's. It's frustrated in a way. I understand it in some ways. Why there is a perception of like oh, but we know better now, so we don't have to pay attention to that. You know, I think, for a lot of people there, like yes, but that would happen. can't possibly applied. It was now it was so long ago, and people were much stupider but had

The way is, I did actually feel like our earlier twenty fourteen episode. I'm a nineteen eighteen pandemic was like not totally off the mark, because I remember talking about episode about like they thought they knew what we were doing. We also think we are new, knowing what we are doing. This could happen again read, and you know it is now seven years six years later pandemic, happening again here. We are areas at all. I feel bad at how much I have enjoyed I'm not I. There have certainly been people in my life. I haven't had any immediate people in my life pass. I have had friends of friends of family friends pass, which is heartbreaking, but I I have so many things that were on my list that I wanted to do that, I'm finally getting to lake works through them and yeah. It's also been. You know. I cannot recommend If you have access to it in any way, this great time to dig him on therapy. Take advantage of this downtime I mean I feel it for me.

I have more progress with my therapist when I am not in a when of crisis, which is not money, I should not be turning to it. When you are in a moment of crisis, it can really help get use through, but at our and I'm when I'm actually in a pretty stable and and Fair Lee relaxed place. I mean there are always stressors in life and link work. I think, for so many of us has blue ed into every hour of our lives, which can be tricky to manage, but like it's when I'm not really like grappling with some Acute issue that I have some lake revel should I make oh. This is now see. Why react to certain things in this way

I can unpack, then leg fix it and take a better path going forward. So yeah, like you, I have been very fortunate and that I, like my immediate family, has been ok. My closest friends have been ok the people I know who have who have gotten cove id have eventually recovered, although some of them still have had some long term vs health things like people from my parents, church and a former colleague of ours like people, I know who have died, have been people a little farther removed for my immediate circle, one of the things that has been

really hard is that so many people in my life have been going through really big staff, both positive and negative, like people having their first baby or people being in serious cancer treatment. Ami UNAIDS cancer is serious, but like particularly dire cancer treatment like and not being able to be with them in some cases, they're having to go through these things largely by themselves, because they're not allowed at the hospital has just been so hard to feel like helpless in a lot of ways to really want to be with somebody and support them and just not be able to be with them and support them. So I know we've been saying this a lot, especially in our Saturday classics, but like we so hope that people are doing as well as they can be doing, and it is

that's hard to imagine doing well. Read is moving history, even if you know of EV headlines right now about cases declining and sort of a sense of very cautious optimism that maybe we are turning a corner on the pandemic. still hearing from a lot of folks at this moment has actually been a lot harder than previously when it was more scene. the acute ray, we are all grinding down a little bit like I I mean I I definitely as much then like I'm great. There are doubly times or I'm just like. I would just love to run to target for this one thing, that's a very minor thing, but I think that we are all experiencing a lot of those. In addition to the more emotionally heavy things new mean. Don't always we tented to do miss them and be like our being silly. That's just stupid convenience, but all

little things accumulate in the same grouping yours naval. You're. Still getting the same pile up whether your stuff is is one of the little things versus one. Your larger issues, the things are still kind of come meaning together in a larger, ongoing ina gas. never ending list of Deaf you realize kind of I know for me. It's like. I have these moments of site and I it's stupid because it's obvious, where I'm just like our wives, so completely different. Yeah and I don't know how will ever recover yeah yeah, but I hope hope is not the right word.

But I dont know another word to say that I hope that, as we recover from the pandemic, we are able to recover in a direction that is more equitable for everyone and that the kinds of horrific disparities that have happened during the pandemic that we will reach a point. A society that, like we, don't have those, unlike the reason I don't feel like hope is the right word- is because I've been working on this podcast for However, many years eight years like I said, I've seen the patterns that we have gotten through and society where we have not addressed the massive inequities that are going on over and over. But yeah that's fine. I hope I don't know hopes that he still feels too optimistic. But that's what I want as a society is is for us to come out of this moment and away

that is better and not as as away that's just back to the way that it was before Ray. I understand what you're saying because saying you hope for it. There may be a misunderstanding, but I know for me when I say I hope for something like that. It seems so stood in far that it seems like I'm denying the reality that were actually living in that part of it. non so yeah. Whatever you like now being disrespectful of the legitimate awfulness that a lot of people are surviving through, but I think you can acknowledge that still hope for better near. We know humans are capable of better. They just have to do the work right Oliver, all day, every day,

what we lack a lot of people already doing that work, and I don't wanna give that shorts short sighted all know. No, our thanks to everyone who is always turn him make the world a better place there, a lot of them out there be those are the beacons of hope. For me. this has been a lot of food for thought. As we goes people looking at how shockingly parallel some of these things are there, the early could run some of the headlines from this week's episode today and no one would bat an eyelash. I think it was there's a whole enormous archive called Influenza encyclopedia, that is produced by the University of Michigan Centre for the history of medicine and Michigan, Publishing University of Michigan Library. I just read that off

mast head of the website that has scans and scans and scales of articles and and and photos and all kinds of stuff from the nineteen eighteen pandemic. I don't feel like I use that as a source in that earlier, twenty fourteen episode did exist, then I think, but I did spend a lot of time looking out at this time around and continually I was like of these headlines- could be running today, like the the number of deaths at this moment are not on the same scale, because even though we are reaching than the number of of five hundred thousand deaths in the United States, that number with six hundred and fifty thousand and the night tainting flu, but the population of the EU as a whole at a lower at that time, but

beyond that won the day to day things that were having an headlines are having opened. Our eyes like this could be today from bummer of a place to land is so we'll just continue to hope that people are doing ok, taking care of themselves, and each other here is as much as folks are able. I know it can be really hard. I thought you'd like to send us an email or history podcast that I heard a cop and you can find a fellow for social media. I miss than history and we hope. Folks, weekends arrest as restful was their able to be stuck here, Miss than history class, the production of Iheart radio for more broadcasts from Radio visit by her radio have added my cans or wherever you listen to your favorite, shows. Good afternoon. Would you like to try out free sample of our double fudge, brownie of pure room? That's very good.

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