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welcome to the Pakistan to a truck the boarding and I'm scared out and were technically pass October in that Spooky episodes that comes along with it, but the subject at Johan, Conrad Devil could really fit right. That badge and honestly, I have to confess here probably would have been without batch. If this book that I had ordered for two dollars and fifty nine cents had come in time, a little peak into our world, I know we're. Always I don't wanna stay complaining were always tell telling people ass. I should people who write and about books that we don't really have a research budget yeah I'm on the waiting list for this book at the library waiting for this cheap, but to come from Amazon whatever it is

so we were kind of at the mercy of via, what's available of time, just like everyone high in the air. So if we take a while to do your request sometimes this is why we are just waiting to be moved up on the waiting list, but back to story double story, really straddles align between spooky and science, and I think that's why makes a good non hollowing episode to I mean we really come to love these science episodes that we ve done and in this really fits in with that care. A lot of fun there, popular with listeners and they're, just a little outside of our normal repertoire. Almost there's. This guy it combines a lot more than your typical of scientific pursued here. As in his life's work, we find a mix of theology, science alchemy in medicine and if that's not interesting enough, also the rumours that are involved in this tale, rumours of

serious experiments involving the reaffirmation of If we don't know what something maybe people may be animals and also rumours of body snatching. So if you Already guessed it from that description, there is a link or maybe just the supposition of, a link to Doktor Frankenstein, the character from Mary, Shelley's famous novel and that's probably the main reason. The devil is a frequent request. Listen, maybe a lot of them believe that he was the inspiration for that character and, of course, if this is starting to some kind of familiar, we already did an episode last year called. Who is the real Frankenstein and it was about Giovanni Athenian, but the character of Frankenstein is kind of like the one of Indiana Jones. There are several different historical figures that people believe could have then possible inspirations and

named a few of them in that who was the real Frankenstein podcast. Maybe one reason why we didn't explore that possibility. More, though, is because there are some legit sounding ray, cited as to why joyful couldn't have been the Frankenstein inspiration which we are, of course going to mention later on, but the potential Frankenstein connection while it may have been the reason we heard about them. That's not the only reason that we became interested in learning more about him. He was also just this rascally controversial figure, and you know how we love those. He also created a concoction that seems fit for sums fi horror story, that, according to an article on medical history by E Isley and W H, Campbell, was really included in pharmaceutical books as us Universal Madison until the early nineteenth century and at this concoction was called dimples. Oil and people thought it to be the elixir of life. Okay, so

the reasons why it so hard to know whether default truly could have been inspiration for Frankenstein is that old, head of the details of his life are pretty sketchy. According to reduce fluoresce grew in his book in search of Frankenstein. This is partly because a lot of primary source was related to the vote, including his doctoral dissertation, were destroyed during the allied bombings of Darmstadt, an Ethan whose biographical sketch of Devil is one that we refer to a lot and he put it together through studying more than seventy works, which first cues own biographical, sketch of devil- is one that we refer to a lot and he put it together through studying more Seventy works which differ composed, including one that containers autobiography as well as differ, agrifuels by other writers, including crevasse. So one thing that most accounts of dimples life really agree on is how it began. He was born August tenth, sixteen seventy three at- and this is probably one of the biggest reason

people make the merry Shelly Frankenstein connection it's because he was born at a place called a Frankenstein castle about a mile south of Darmstadt. So I'd say that's a pretty big connection, though today this castle is basically a ruin that overlooks the old involved, but it was once the home of the bear, Frankenstein or Frankenstein maybe more accurate and that a german, futile family, but they ve, created the place by the timetable, was born. Having thought the place in sixteen sixty two by the time. The ball born in the castle, however, had become a hospital for people who have been injured in the war with France and his parents, Anna Eleanora, Wench Meyer and a Lutheran minister named Johan. Philip devil were both refugees there. According to that medical history, article we mentioned Devils Father wanted him to become Lutheran. Minister, too, he would have been the fifth generation and his family to do so. But for us you notes that differ was always

a strange kid who, for one thing, he was kind of a loner. The other kids gave him the nickname, the owl for his tendencies, to keep to himself and also to read by candlelight in one of the castle tat at night, which sounds pretty gray, refer young kid. He was also considered kind of odd for the way he regarded himself. He was really smart that seems pretty evident by pretty much all accounts signs Lincoln. As article says that a dimple secondary school Darmstadt gymnasium, his name, was first on the role of distinguish old boys, but fluoroscopy says that people considered himself quote a superior individual animated by a quote higher spirit who could figure out the mysteries of the universe. So he basically thought that his brilliance was limitless, something that extensive his later achievements and Life Yan, something that shows us why maybe he wouldn't have been content with following his father's footsteps. As far as profession is concerned,

factly through tipple enrolled at the University of Caisson in sixteen ninety one. He was about seventeen years old and he was planning on studying the ology. He registered under a different name, though from devil he registered with Frankenstein honor, which was another reason that third, the name is kind of stuck with him throughout the years he earned a reputation at school for being extremely intelligent, but also for being really vocal about debating, theological and scientific points with his professors. He graduated in three years and apparently really shocks with his dissertation, which was entitled on nothing and such was considered to be a confession of scepticism like a classic college. Kids move that as an anti right, your dissertation clothes on.

It wasn't you long after that the devil adopted the Lutheran pilot, its point of view, and at that time the leave her in church was divided into orthodox and pirated contingents and the Orthodox Camp conform to the Lutheran Creeds and liturgy, and the pilot is basically believed that the quote good life was more important than sticking a creed of that separation makes sense devise according to Isley and Campbells article, this such a rule may not have been that big surprise either. Some stiff quote began to express doubts about the catechism at age. Now Sebastian man, Escargot cordiality, and this is the Peat and Sebastian POD catches is a show of beet. Now talk about our personal private lives, just Two guys

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tendency to change. His stance seems to have had more to do with him wanting to win a debate than any sort of desire to find a fundamental truth, which I think is sort of interesting, and it's like he. It was more about the arguments off, then, what he was a local waved, regardless of wavering stand slow, he wrote extensively on theology and those works puzzled, alot of people, because he did kind of go back and forth idly in Campbell site. One professor, who was really confused by tipple, theological work. He said quote a man must have the gift of divination. To be,

what do the deuce, irregular and consistent system of doctrine from the various productions of this incoherent and unintelligible writer, who was a chemist into the bargain and whose brain seems to have been heated to a high degree of fermentation by the fire of the laboratory. I know about you delete them. This makes the editor in makeshift squirm, o maddening, having to edit this guy that if you look up works about people now outline of without their focuses on his theological career, but even after earning a degree in theology, he didn't really stick to to whether you seem to know back to lecturing about just theology. He was somebody who, for whatever reason, had a lot of confidence and lecturing about things that he knew very little if anything about after graduating, he he didn't get a teaching position at the University of Geese and maybe because he had started rub folks, the wrong way with all of that so true debating. He did

So he moved on to the imperial universally of Strasbourg in sixteen ninety four, where, according to Bob Currents book man made monsters, he's started lecturing for a short time in Alchemy and Hiram Anthea, which his fortune telling until his license to teach their was revoked. That already gives you a pretty good sense of this guy's diversity. If he's not just talking about the ology, his tongue bout fortune telling yeah- and at this point I mean in alchemy to add at this point he hadn't really even studied alchemy, that much a new kind of indicated that when you said that he was always lecturing about things that he really didn't know that much about he just sort of felt confident enough that he could teach other people, even though he didn't have were achieved in these areas himself, but for Askew also notes the dimpled. It necessarily need to find an official classroom to teach these things, while in Strasbourg he became known for lecturing and all kinds of spots,

HANS taverns churches, or even just lecturing out on the street and lecturer and all kinds of things too, though. Astrology in Cairo Nancy were probably the most popular according to Finally, in Campbells, article people also practised palmistry during this time. To me, an open air lecture on Palmistry sounds like it would be pretty entered. He think I will to that lunchtime. Let our I am going to get lunch, and you see this guy lecturing stop for a little while, but some stute we're making him out to them. I kind of oh, really, weird Kai you. Maybe nobody was paying much attention to, but something really look

up to him, but I mean remember who is brilliant Hugh? He was, and he captivated people that fluoroscope also points out that chronicles from the time allude to some kind of quite scandalous behaviour on the fourth part and after living, where he was for a couple years, he was forced to flee and exactly why he had to do. That is a bit unclear flourish. Few says that he was implicated in some body. Snatching incidents in a local cemetery idly in Campbell say that it's because people killed and opponent and so very different. Explanation: air both good reasons to get out of town, regardless of why he had to leave devil, did have to go and lay low for a little while, according to four askew, he returned home for this period and home at that time was near Frankenstein Castle with his parents. So this is about the time when people began to really seriously

in practice alchemy, and he got into it when a Lutheran minister from Geese and gave him a couple of books on alchemy and these books included Raymond Lilies, romance and given pastels veil raised on the mysteries of the beginning of the world, he basically push these books on devil because he supposedly believe that differ would be able to understand them better than anyone so again kind of a nod to his suppose. It intellect israeli, then after reading them devil, apparently decided the whole making gold thing that everybody was so interested in the time related sound that tough. After all, I mean you, they should go. Listen to our absurd from last October. On alchemy, if you wanna see really how people how much people were into this room, he decided he wanted to give it a shot, and he was so confident that he would succeed that he bought an estate completely on credit tooth

his lab there, because fifty thousand guilders, but of course hidden anticipate paying the ban, would be a problem because, of course he would be able to make gold and in pay and that so, in about seventeen hundred are seventeen o one sometime in there he claimed that he had succeeded in finding with secret formula for gold, but the crucible containing that broke into the fire and was tragically lost and, according to legend alchemy weren't supposed to use the goal that they created for personal gain, though you know this idea of of buying a play Thun on credit and then you'd pay it all back with gold. He could make Nada, not legitimate fur, for real alchemists to be planning on doing so. Maybe it was a little bit of battle. A little curse like situation going on there, but there are different accounts of what happened with deep will after this. According to that medical history, article that we

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ere. He was under the protection of Count August found Wittgenstein, who I think we ve mentioned the Wittgenstein family and other episode up from time to time. The count convinced King Frederick, the first to set dip with a mansion and nice laboratory and its there that he started experiments of a very different nature. He set out to discover elixir that would cure a variety of conditions. That kind of like a universal medicine. It sounds like something that we would all kind of lot right, something too. Cheer. Whatever else you only listen to how he created it. So in order to create this wonder product has he started experimenting with distilling animal parts, namely belied first and then bones which he would boil to extract the fatty manner and according to flourish, askew quote the product was conducted through iron, condensing tubes and FED and receivers. Were

crude bone oil collected that doesn't sound very good that product? According to Einstein, Campbell, smelled and tasted? Pretty grace you would imagine, but it was used in medical practice. You're a number of elements and for while it had a good reputation as a medicine until the end of the eighteenth century it was named, both oil or dimples animal oil- and it was said to stimulate the nervous system if you took it internally, but I think people used to rub them out, their body aid as well as to consume it too narrowly I don't know if they didn't want to, but the union necessarily have to. I guess it depended on what you are trying to treat. I think I read that do you can use a treat spasms, maybe rub it on the miracle product I mean I get that works for just about anything, although devils animal oil not make it sound appealing it doesn't. Maybe just dimples oil would have been a better name and it ain't you I've seen it both ways of seeing his devils oil and apples annulled oil, but I think I would choose to partake of

the fourth oil before we for sure through this work and boiling animal parts for rescue also points out. The devil made a very different kind of discovery. By boiling animal parts and mixing an iron and some various other ingredients. He apparently ended up with a chemical called potassium Ferris cyanide and when Chemical wasn't next with air, it became the brilliant blue collar that became known as prussian Blue or Berlin Blue for some reason Discovery wasn't made public until about seventeen twenty four, but that blue die was widely used by artists. Here, you'll still see paint colors. Today, it's a color, still oppression, blue right and just decide. Note here, since we ve done some, reason. Podcast recently, another german chemist took dimples

call, and I loaded with so few asset which created Hydrocyanic or pressure acid, which for us, because one of the most potent poisons so all of this here you know we have this miracle drug and you think that devils well in an Prussian blew the color. The paint the pigment would have been enough to earn devil some measure of wealth and respect. But he kept getting implicated in various scandals worth you, a third that this was a result of other scientists and alchemists being jealous of her thus making him the subject of their intrigue that, regardless of the reason, joyful had to stay on the move pretty much most of his life according again too, for rescue another similarity to Shelley's Frankenstein who, as you remember from the book, is pretty much always on the move. Other that's partly cause there

she's a month fixture. She had motivation, get he had good reason to keep out, keep going, but finally Devil headed to HOLLAND. After Berlin, where he studied medicine, enlighten and earned his degree by seventeen eleven or so, and he was felt by some to be a pretty good physician and according to idly in Campbell, he even attempted to set up a medical practice outside of Amsterdam but again had to flee the tend to Denmark in seventeen. Fourteen and again, her reason why he had to get up, town and so fast seems to be unknown. Although floor askew does point out that, after earning his medical degree, Depot was doing experiments with animals taking part two where to find out how it off it together and apparently at least one dimples biographers suggest that he was trying to understand the process that quote engendered life itself

another similarity to Shelley's character. If it is true, this? Reminds me a little bit too of of the blood work up a cell and trying to find trying to find the root of the soul. I mean that's pretty similarities to trying to find the process that engendered life itself is experiments going around are going on Canada, the same time to find what seems like an find of all things be these crazy experiments that people was doing had something to do with his flight, but after going a marketable again got caught up in a series of political intrigues that resulted I'm getting thrown into prison for seven years on the danish Island of born home, he was thence to life, but was released at the request of the queen of Denmark and seventeen. Twenty six, who wanted him to her physicians, though that shows that he must have had a pretty good medical reputation at the time. I'd, say: you're thinking get this prisoner out of jail

I need him to be high doctor and I'm the queen of Denmark Right a year, though he ended a moving to Sweden, where he worked as a physician in the court of the swedish king. So really a dramatic rise in fortune for him. He continue to encounter content see there, though, as well and eventually return home to Germany in seventeen twenty nine after being gone for some twenty five years. What I've read about him for us who, in his book, talked a lot about how Double what sort of drawn to home his whole life? He he sort of kept in touch with his family, his siblings there, and he was that he wanted to come home. So it makes you question even more these things that made him move from place to place It was and drawn to one place in particular yeah. He returned to his family home near castle. Frankenstein the place where he was born and thirsty says: it's there at home that people started working on some kind of quotas, and design and citing a document, the most

ignore this author says that double did claim to finally have achieved something of the sort, some sort of chemical secret, and then he apparently offered it. The local land owner near his family home in exchange for ownership of castle, Frank inside it, domain, so he's sort of focused on this place where he was born, adding the calf he wanted it in exchange for a grand design. The deal and work there no fell through, and it's still not clear what the secret he was offering for the castle was, but for us to think that has something to do with the mysterious pamphlet. The devil had printed in seventeen thirty three a year after the deal fell through in it. He claimed that he discovered Lila for prolonging his own life until eighteen o one at which point he would have been one hundred and thirty five years old,

Currently. This came at a time when his enemies were spreading, rumours that he was gonna die, so maybe he's sort of came up with those to counter that. Unfortunately, though, for difficult, he ended up dying just a year after making that prophecy on April twenty. Fourth- seventeen. Thirty four he was found in the palace of his old friend the count on Wittgenstein, where he had a laboratory and dimples body was cold and rigid when it was found that he was also foaming at the mouth and the entire right side of his face was blue and the medical history article that we ve mentioned earlier says that the cause of death was probably a stroke, but of course, especially for cattle as people suggested that it could have also been poison still other people and this gotta be the best option on the table, think that he had been killed by the devil for not keeping some sort of contract not last theories. Definitely fitting forest spooky tail like Shelley's, but there's

several reasons why people think that devil probably wasn't. Actually the inspiration for Frankenstein. For one thing, many of the trade that people a tribute to him may Post day Mary Shelley's novel, so do they warnings that you're sort overlean retroactively put onto for maybe even after the movies were made there, so some doubt about how much Shelly could have known about dimples why she definitely travelled in the area where Castle Frankenstein is, but who knows, she actually heard about his story? And finally, of course, we just don't really know that much about different life. Of course, shall you might not have necessarily then at the same disadvantage that modern scholars, our sense, she would have been long before the world or to bombings in the places where all his record, for that's true but

thing I think of here is that even if she had been interested in the things he was doing wanted to find out more about him. As you mentioned earlier, I think there were a lot of people who are doing these sorts of experiments at the time popular pastime right. So she could have just been inspired by that fact, rather than devils specific story, but it is interesting to speculate about them. To know a little bit more about him, so good request from listeners here, even though we had to go to sleep thanks to find out more about well, I m guessing from the reception of the spooky episodes this October. People won't mind too much that afflict coming out in November. Keep the spokenness rolling? You know and I think to that end we have spooky listener mail to share too so we have a letter here from listener, Kristen,

and she says I was delighted to steer the suit on the sale of which trials and listen to immediately. My interest in the topic stems from living in Salem for about six years, because my husband is a fail, native, we now return regularly to visit my inlaws actually we're just there over the past weekend and yes, the hollowing spectacle is in full swing. Anyway, I want to let you know that if you are you're, listeners visit fail and there are more historical attractions related to the trials. The p by Essex Museum a major argument. History museum has within its holdings documents from the trials and artifacts that, where the personal attacks of those involved, these are the Philips Library and were previously on display. The currently, the library is closed to the public. For innovations, however, currently open- and I know because I was just there- as a display. An old town hall has some historical information regarding the trials some gems, that the sale of my informers daylamites are proud to show to visitors and ones that sadly get bypassed. I visitors without an insider connection,

oh and unless you want to spectacle dont visit in October, is way too crazy for a more seriously, and there are many additional historic sites to that relating maritime history, architecture and literary history. So thanks for those travel tabs Christian, that's what they told me when I visited the Visitors centre tell our maritime attacks. It is good to know So then we have a fund note from listener, Tristan who says trysted here from the shields brothers. We are rock band and we were on the voice on NBC on team seal em. So, a few months back, we were listening to your jack, the Ripper Pied cats, and you inspired us to song about him is called saucy jack so and he sent a syllable youtube. We should, in any event, in Vila Lana represent. What are you so if you have any podcast inspired

stories or any travel tips like listener? Christian that you want to share with us. We welcome those than to MAR way history, podcast House to put some common rules on twitter and listen. And we're on Facebook or other frankenstein that mean we can we ve done to. Now, though, I see a theory There are some other frankenstein that we could do if we can find the book the ultimate goal, we have a good article on Frankenstein. We do what we have one on Frankenstein's monster. They think Robert Lamb wrote it into our full called how Frankenstein's monster works. He can find it by visiting our Homepage W W W done how stuff works dot com- for more or less and thousands of other topics. Does it how stuff works out com?

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