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So I have a question for you chuck. Do you ever read a book? No, no, don't be ridiculous chuck.
Have you ever met. Agatha Creasy
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you have much of a memory of their encountered a little bit
she was. She was nice enough. She signed my murder on the Orient expressed copy ports. Addition, oh wow, that's gotta be worth some monies, pretty need yeah. Do you still have that
partner did some spring cleaning here a couple weeks ago, at an even recycled put it in
were free librarians through in the trash? Did you I didn't. You say why
set. Your brother has like a copy of number one Superman or something nuts, like that. I thought he has something some valuable comic book now now we must be confusing you with my other costs Chuck now we might become a good people meet me. Don't have anything valuable like that. I gotcha well
having met Agatha Christie when you're a kid I feel, like you, probably have a lot to bring this once I I
some
I have never matter. Still to this day
probably never well, and I have read a couple of things and seen a couple movies based on her stuff, but I would never kick consider myself liquor.
I'm a rabbit, Agatha Christie Pham, but I do appreciate her work. A lot you
You pick this one, why
We have this series of books. Children's books about
awesome women in history from freedom.
Cocoa Chanel to Amelia Erhard to Agatha Christy,
And so I was reading this when the other night and thought hey. Let's do you wanna go
the Christie haven't read any of her work. Seen a couple over movies love the genre, though yeah
as films have never read a mystery
murder mysteries, although I'm going to now
I started. Reading the mysterious affair at styles, which I think was our first published work last night, and it's just great. She just sucks you right in like you, she does with two creates an a lot of books, not all of them, but she creates. What's call the cozy mystery with an s cuz. It's british and I've never heard that term before until this article
When I came across that I was like yes, I love that kind of thing and that's exactly what I love about murder. She wrote like the murder she wrote to her. She goes to like Broadway or Paris, or something like that. I can take or leave their fine, but it's the ones that are set and tiny Little Cabot Cove, that's just isolated from the rest of the world, it's cozy and small, and it's like a village and all that those are the murder. She wrote that I love the most and I think that's what I like
Agatha Christie. Mysteries too, is a very typically cosy mysteries. I've never seen that show why we have.
Conversation before no,
that would be seen,
into my brain forever. Now we have because he said that the first time
Yeah, I've never seen it, but I am I'm a huge fan of
murder, mystery movies, especially
cosy.
History is like clue as one of my favorite foam. Yet another shears last year's knives out was one of my top like three or four films a the year. I have not seen
yeah. It's still like seven dollars on Amazon, Prime, so I haven't rented E. I'm waiting for the price point to drop first, I can loan you a couple of bucks. If you need
three ninety three: ninety nine hurt. Nobody, nine United States still want fur.
A rental. I mean that's a lot. You think
the three. Ninety nine is manageable for ninety nine. In up, that's a lot of that's a lot of mood law for a rental. If you ask me near this, is I'm taking a stand on this?
I was filmed professionals out there. Please do not take offence to all your hard work, so I have a quick,
for you have one more question: have you seen the Agatha Christie Film adaptation of crooked house that came out two thousand seventy now I think you'll like it. It was big budget, but it also looks like british made for television budgets great Julian Anderson. Dana Scully is in Dhaka while carrying the Brits or nuts. For her are they did? Oh man, she's, like their favorite person in the world, has been for years. I don't know I nothing against Chilean Anderson, but like she's never hit, it is big over here. She did there,
Terence stamp. Isn't it love him going close she's great and I was like this- is really good. Nuts was reading little synopsis of all that stuff in it seemed like come. This is why
we regarded as one of her best most ingenious and inventive works cricket. How to cook
it out, and I believe that on Amazon Prime Free well, yes,
Do you actually do the math of how much you pay for Amazon Prime to see how much you're paying for that movie.
I don't know one is. He doesn't want to do that. We pennies why'd, you do that through our eyes are Charles
let's go let's get into this, because I know that this could be a little long for not deliberate and we'd. Take may be consider it of our time
I want an eight minute in trials. Are so far so good
she is perhaps
and it's gonna hard to table books tell with book sales because they can be held dodgy, but she is often
what did as the are seen as the best selling now most of all time in
little check to compare like about and Stephen King Solar Booker, to share their
they tag his book sales at about three hundred and fifty million
sixty six novels and fourteen collected works of short stories supposedly have sold to
soon of two billion. I saw four billion in one place and I think after you had, the billion mark Ignis start tossing around whatever number you
I think so I gotta go for. We ve had seventy billion downloads. Now I just decided how great that's why the downloads but think about Stephen King, how many books is that
written how many as he sold all around the world, and it amounts to three hundred and fifty million and is one of the best
selling. Authors of all time. A lot of people say that Agatha Christy's numbers hit two billion, like you said that astounding yeah does
a ton of books, its I dont, think, are stuff. You should know book will approach. Those numbers know you
never say never the lofty goals never say never. I also saw that she's the most widely translated author of all time too
by that forty five languages like
was a little low. So then, somewhere
I saw a hundred and three. So let's go with that.
Let's talk about this cosy mystery,
just mystery novels in general.
They are very much formulaic, which add helped us, but this today
it points out. That's why people like them because
familiarity and the sort of a comfort food thing like a good beach book. You know what you're gonna get right. Yeah yeah, there's
and there's surprises in everything Movin in em in the whole thing is meant to be a surprise. It's a mystery in part of the men.
Three, the lure of the mysteries, their Agatha Christie, not only wrote, but actually
The whole genre she helped to develop is that you are ostensibly able to figure out who the cold
it is in the murder. It's almost always murder, and so there is like there is surprise, involve that's the point, but there
So a tremendous amount of familiar familiarity and that's that formula you're talking about that's what really has such declarations of people into this whole genre, her sixties,
plus books, yes out, we ve got that murder,
you usually don't see this murder occur. She does
usually in
in general and murder. Mysteries. You don't see the murder, that's kind of the point of how grisly or gruesome
The act is it's sort of all about fine.
That body
I want that a bunch of knives out things to say, but also any over. Now. Thank you.
And you ve got your detective that arrives on the scene and
I will say this knives out very much Wallace's formula, very smartly. So, ok, so you ve,
this master detective.
Who usually arrives upon the scene, but they may
I'll be there, and they are generally very eccentric in a sort of they
they always have these quirky sort of characteristics in Christy
case we have the very formidable
her cool, Pierrot and then Miss Marble, Jane Marble,
in her fuels. Casey's, belgian and has it
big moustache and is just sort of eccentric in belgian. Just me
he's not french, there's only about being belgian. That makes it slightly different here and
marble. Apparently.
Very ordinary and people underestimate her and that's how she sort of wins the day yeah because for Turkey
Paul row was retired belgian police detected, so he has some measure of authority still to question people in interrogate people, as he wishes with Miss Marble, she's, just kind of a quiet, old lady who sows knits a lot and she just said
very keen eye for detail in an interest in solving. You know the murders that seem to happen around her like age,
lands. Basically, you
but rather than interrogate people directly miss Marbles thing is she just kind of quietly is? Is there and people tend to confide in earnest,
kind of quietly helps them along and gives them she gives them the rope to hang themselves with. That's how she interrogates people are figures out who
with a murderer is right, so you ve got your gas setting in the end the cosy mystery setting, like you
That's usually like an estate,
home, maybe a hotel.
Maybe it might be a small English, village or,
press obviously is on a train,
sort of confine space path.
Have you seen the train to boost son I killed. I can view that with no peer, sir, I think I've seen both, but I can't remember what joins wage
their kind of its very similar, but beside his is on bees on a train korean firm. No, then, I think I just seen snow pierced. Her you should check out trained to be son
jail where, if you think you ve seen it all with his zombie genre, then think again. Do that saying something because that's that
rose garden, a little tired, they all hey. Let me ask you this:
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Yeah, I'm a couple of episodes into the latest season. Ok, yeah! You mean I just started at sea.
One and, unlike all I wanna, do, is sit around and watch Ozark. It's amazing yeah. I love it. That's like heart! Well, you know.
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yeah right I'd, say you ve got your setting with Agatha Christie. She
include her travels in some of her later novels when they became like super popular, but it was still not like
the globe trotting like James Bond kind of thing. No, that's that's the point so like in a espionage
or something the cows are all over the place, and you know the characters constantly moving in these cosy.
Thrillers like, even if they're in an exotic low cow there still set in a small part of that exotic locale, that's right, you got
suspects. They are questioned by the detective,
but they usually all have emotive. They usually all have the means.
Because everyone, you know, in a great novel like this, everyone's
how to be a suspect from
beginning, and then you can kind of quickly widdle or slowly whittled that list down right and here's
what I was saying with the young, with the kind of mystery that Agatha Christie wrote and in really established
You are part of the mystery like you're, you either the
investigator. The detective has an assistant that they explain things too, very much like gum, Sherlock Holmes and Watson sure or if the detective his working solo say like Miss Marble, Miss marbles, my right
a list of suspects and their motives and little clues down.
As part of the narration and you're you're
Eddie in every step of the way, so you're part of this working towards solving the mystery and, as is very frequently put it kind of pity in competition with the author to see, if you can figure out who who done it before the end of the book, yeah Munich Inspector Encyclopedia Brown whole point is to try and figure that stuff out
I love those. Those are so great encyclopedia list of suspects, busted, one dumb kid who did something
I can't remember the bugs meaning
a man good memory, it may have been
bugs mean he was a kind of a big, dumb, o food like beat up on chipmunks. I think so. Ok, he busted bugs once because bugs head tears coming out of the
the outside corners of his I M freak Azores inside corners, that's good, but see the great thing about those books. Is it a twelve year old?
doesn't really necessarily always pick up on this clues. Oh I did I was it
graded I'd, be curious to see if they would stop me now,
no! No. I mean specifically with the outside of the eye thing, but yeah, I'm sure there are plenty that I missed, but she cried.
When you are a boy
I knew was staring in the mirror to use.
Incidentally, at the end, to wrap up the little John Sort of summary you ve got this great ending, usually where everyone's
other together and the detective kind of walks every
through the bigger reveal of exactly how the killer did it
in her case. She did not
when the killer is revealed,
They didn't turn around and shoot them in the face like it's usually pretty non violent. They would be wrestled to the ground or arrested, or maybe they might run away and you here later that they had that killed themselves or something like that sure.
There is rarely a grand finale where they would be pressed to death in front of a crowd who needs it.
So then I mean that's it like big bang boom. That was when you ve started on page one of an Agatha Christie novel. You knew exactly how everything was gonna play out.
And then one of the other things is because the thing was so formulaic
there is also room for this. For the author to kind of play with you, the reader and in using things like
Olaf's in red herring out your finger basically the same thing, but the idea is that so the author, in this case, Agatha Christie, would say something
come you know early on in the book, a suspect would come
running out of the house. Looking shaken and pale,
and dumb you the reader would be like wallets is way too obvious. She stuck in a name second point out who the murderer is at the beginning of the book. I can disregard that person or this very obvious clue or something like that- those
a part of the interplay between author and reader, but then it could go even deeper to where she would
say. Something like y know that you think that this is too
Yes in some can actually make this the actual murderer, which she did in some cases, which was like a double bluff, apparently
keep going on and on, and I urge all, but it was this kind of wrestling match her baby slap fight,
mean Agatha Christie and you her reader, which made the whole thing all the more delight
that's right, and she had takes great pains to point out that she did not invent the genre. There were people like
Arthur Conan, Doyle, obviously, and poem before her. That sort of
There were some of these rules, but she was very popular she's, very get it.
She did
wrote about what she knew and we will talk about her life coming up in a little bit, but
these men are houses in these estates. In these english villages, and even the exotic locales,
these train troops and things were things that she actually experienced, and you know a lot of people are good
it making stuff up in a lot of people are great about writing what they know. It is
like she was really great at writing. What she knew yeah and dumb
for some reason either. It was
he time orb, maybe because of her. I'm not sure I was kind of a chicken or the egg thing, but she happened right about stuff
a lot of people wanted to read about these small, you know english villages in
quaint, mannerisms of the upper middle and upper class english society set in this period of time that in for some reason it has captured everybody's attention and apparently, when she started expanding LE
think after world war, two to some slightly more exotic, locales like Egypt or Mesopotamia. You know,
for like a death on the Nile was a very famous windows Vista or the Orient Express that really catapulted earned a super stardom international superstar them to yeah. I dont have
super firm red on the history of literature, but I get the idea that this is
sort of aligned with the beginnings of pop lit
and like I call it the beach book, I dont know
had been a tiny stuff like this. That was
sort of pure comfort, food and entertainment of up to this point, yeah, I'm not sure either
nothing that I'm familiar with. I can say that the review,
entertaining books, they were humorous, a very dark sense of humor,
The dialogue on these verbal jousts between
detectives and the suspects is really keen that genre, something
How did really really well? That is one of my favorite scripts the year, maybe my favorite script
but just really really good sharp riding in its no sort of
accident that she became so hugely popular, no and that something like if you
really familiar with Agatha Chrissy needs is kind of look up in passing. I wanna things will be confronted with. Is that a lot of people? What a critic say she was a hack and when what they're talking about is that formula that she followed to almost like a soul, Leslie Rational degree like that was the formula that's what she followed,
but that really, MRS, like the fact that she had a really great I for detail in the dialogue. Like you're saying she was a good writer and she could just crank work out a think. During the decade of the twenties she wrote a book a year:
it might have been become more prolific later on in the thirties and forty two
yeah and she she was a business person
You know like there's nothing wrong with saying why
people love this stuff
and they sell a lot. And although it took
that to happen as will see, but there's there's nothing wrong.
That I think people the collar hack, kinda, like eight near go, fly with extreme prejudice. Should we take a break, I think so man will come back and talk about her life
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ok Chuck, so Agatha Christie was born in eighteen. Ninety in England, endeavour ensure in Turkey way jobs once a kangaroo demonstrates her
and it's in the South West of England, so Torquay is kind of like our own or Devon sure, like our Arizona, basically, this my impressive, and it is very much like a good sign
right, the legendary Devon Chirk Cactus right, so so, which stocks the more that rate and she was one
three kids and I think, but her older brother and sister were both at least a decade older than her. So she had like a very solitary childhood, which appears to have major, fairly happy. She didn't go to school. She was raised by governesses in it
Katy by governesses, been allotted time reading and just hung out around her families estate
yeah I mean they had some dough. They were. They were not
healthy wealthy, but they were definitely upper middle class. They got an inheritance from her paternal
grandfather such that her dad
didn't need to work,
apparently. She is on record as saying that, MIKE her dad wasn't around much didn't really in
me once much so he can go
a kite as well. It's not a kite flyin
and she would she lobbying out the garden. She wasn't
the impression she wasn't like reclusive or anything, but she's very much enjoyed time with her self alone. But
so had friends and stuff when she eventually did go to school,
her father passed and they couldn't afford that governess right? But she was a very, very shy person. The novelist Joe Neck Zella says that even as an adult, she was so shy that sometimes she wouldn't going to shops, because
she would have to interact with the shopkeeper. So it is a novelist. You know how he notwithstanding the life of the party and super outgoing,
you ve never met Philip Rock. I just wanna know you: can a picture like the Stephen kings, just locked in
attic somewhere and not like will. Let me right a little bit then I'm gonna go. You now go to a party right, go
and pick up ass- a volunteer at the local food banks.
It is a sort of solitary pastime. So that sure there are examples of of extroverted authors, but I think she counterfeits the mould that user generally think.
Especially for a lady, mystery writer
yeah. You know, I think done only fit them all the more I learn about her. She made them old, drag. Basically, everything we take her for granted
as far as writing in mystery? Writing goes. I she briskly made it up. It's pretty impressive stuff.
Yes, so she like, we said she did some pretty to us
Damn dams in America seem like exotic
Evelyn trips. But if you look at an angle,
at the time. It's no big deal to go to Egypt and check out there
remains. That was, if you had little dough, that was a pretty common vacation that you might take. So she did
like that and she was exposed to exist,
glow cows and use those in our work
very first novel, even snow upon the desert,
she wrote when she was like twenty to twenty three years old, I think, and
you know she had a hard time getting published at first, because she was young woman. Yes, she was rejected out of hand,
and apparently also she'd started writing, because her sister told her that she
probably wouldn't be able to write a mystery novel which I'd love. So she did. She wrote the young. What was its know on what snow
The desert snow upon the desert and she was very young, then in
between the time she wrote,
upon the desert and the mysterious affair styles, which a beer first published book. I believe
she went to a lot of life and there in the fall
I'm getting married to a guy named Archibald, Archie Christie and one of the things about Agatha Christy's that she was
she never saw she wasn't a born right or even though she did right as a younger person like you're, saying that she wasn't like a
she just didn't want to be a writer as a kid and she ended up. Writing really seriously ask
she and Archie Christie got married because Archie Christie wasn't particularly wealthy and couldn't necessarily care for her himself. So she started writing to to make money which some
people suspect, is the reason she got in a mystery writing in the first place, because there was a very, very popular genre. Even then we'll make sense, so she had the skills to pay the bills,
it they were married. Nineteen fourteen he was gonna promptly sent to fight in the
war in France
and she worked at a pharmacist
at a war hospital during that period.
And this is where she learned a lot about
potions and poisons, and farmers
the goals and things that she would there's a lot.
Poisoning that goes on in her books, yeah
and she later in her career, think she actually would consult with doctors and stuff like that. Can she wanted
to be really medically accurate, but early on, she learned a lot about this stuff from her work in the pharmacy ridges. Coming
pulling ghoulish. You know she's like hey how exactly what a person die from it bought all that I'm holding so yeah
and apparently most of the deaths in her books are poisonings in
Like your saying, like you re, rarely see the person die, they d come upon the body and most in times of poison body. Sometimes, sir, there was violence visited upon them, but, for the most part, is a body that was found poison to death,
yeah, that's a good vehicle for a mystery novel because
no there's no murder weapon
per se there. I guess there's the poison bottle, but
and be very vague poisoning deathlike. Could it have been a hard
like you, had a kind of sus out at first weather
It was even a murder. It's not like,
best thing where there's a bullet.
In their gestures at right, right, yeah, so poor.
Is what you want with typically it's another example also check it
the voice, her writing what she knew too TAT, at least writing what interested her and she wrote
and I believe, nineteen twenty no
during the during World WAR one so while she was working at the dispensary in Archie, was all flying in France. I believe she wrote the mysterious affair styles and
it was that's the one I started reading in it. I dont understand how it was rejected at first, but it was some it's a really interesting book, just right out of the gate in that,
It pulls you right into this little country, english estate, no other the people on it, and you realize
just after a couple of pages that you're already invested in, which is pretty amazing. This is like not her first book, but it was our first serious work there.
Wasn't published immediately. It wasn't published until nineteen twenty and I think, even after it was published
It wasn't an immediate catapult to success for her, but it
They. It was a remarkable first book to be published
and this is the one to introduce the world to her chief detective for a lot of those. Now
was Mr Pinheiro, like we mention, and
later on, asked her why she was belgian
and she said why not basically right
don't think a whole lot of thought went into. It may turn out to be a really good choice because he had this kind of
interesting accent and everywhere he went on in other, were never set in Belgium, though every
where he went. He was this sort of
strange foreigner that would come into town with this accent
no one quite understood, and he said
sort of larger than life presents. I think, because it that's what turned out to be a really smart Joyce. Yet he resolved
a well known dandy, who was very
vain about his appearance, and he appeared
said in one of the later books that he plays up his foreignness,
and his daintiness too
disarm suspects when he's interrogating them to make them take him less seriously than they otherwise might man. I want to talk about knives out so much you cannot
I appreciate you not doing so. She had a daughter, we should mention in nineteen nineteen name Rosamond and that's the only child she ever had, and it was in nineteen twenty year year later that they finally did published.
Mysterious affair. It styles after she agreed to change the ending
Should we not like poor row.
Revealing all this evidence in court, so she changed the ending. They said great
That's when she went on to publish that novel every year for about ten years, right, very, very big
books, but they weren't. They were pie
pillar, but she wasn't like a superstar internationally at this point, yet, no, not yet again
She really catapulted later on, because she moved to some of these more exotic locales, but one of the things that cement
her legend as a mystery writer. In addition to all of the work she did, in addition, do prolific Missin heard extreme talent at this formula that she had worked out was um. What still today is considered and
solve mystery. In fact, there was featured on a ninety ninety four episode of unsolved mysteries, which I just random
happiness. E recently and dumb she disappeared. There's a whole sub plot tag. If it Christy's
life. There was really surprising, especially compared to how boring and normal and his kind applauding with these, instead of tea,
her normal life was the fact that she has his grand miss
a punk down in the middle of it is, is pretty impressive. Yet it some
here's the backstory she and Archie were not meant to be together, as it turns out,
revealed that he was having an affair.
With a lady name, Nancy NEO. He was a friend of the family and
Obviously that was the end of their marriage, so, at the end of nineteen twenty six, they
decided they were gonna. Take a trip together. A week hinder
I'm Archie went to be with his friends instead and then she vanished and see me
with an air. They found her car, the Iraq quarry,
with her fur coat and her driver's license there and no Agatha Christie, knowing her
car wasn't just near the rock quarry. According to some reports like one of the wheels is hanging over the edge of the cliff and still spinning right so a but she was gone. She they they couldn't find her and so within a couple of days
this massive search, depending on who you asking depending on when you ask them ten, like ten thousand plus people, were
Jim for probably more likely a couple thousand, which is still
really remarkable for this tiny little area in the South West of England at the time and nineteen twenty six so that that
a kind of demonstrates. She was already of a well known writer. She wasn't ledge
yeah. But this is its disappearances, the mechanism
mechanism by which she becomes legendary. I think- and this goes on for a good week. I believe
When did she disappeared December? What I think
third is when they were going to take that trip, so she
he's gone almost two weeks in by gone, we mean just vanished. She left behind that car. She left behind
drivers licence in the fur, like you said she was gone. Her husband had
come, came to be known to have asked for a divorce already, so people like well did he bumper off and she's,
mystery writer known for generating sub like this. So even at the time some people like is this a publicity stunt right. It's a pretty good one. If it is sure it worked, and there was a banned at this place, called the swan
I drew passing hotel in Yorkshire, which Canada sounds.
A bit of Asia. Keller, brothers type of joint. Have you seen a cure for wellness? Well, we ve talked about that in that broadcast theory. I can remember ever seen it I'd never saw it have you yet. I still have not seen it ain't. I must now act, but it is pretty interesting
its grits worth seeing at least once I took it up, but any rate they had a band here, because what Hydropathic hotel does not have a house band
They came forward and said: hey, that's act!
Christy Lady
been staying here for a week,
she's been in the electric light bath cabinet
I've been getting her yogurt Animas net and
the grand old time they went to the king.
Send the cops went to the lead detective
no. Now no she's been murdered in we're trying to find out the killer, I'm sure of
eventually this detective.
Said well. Let me tell her husband and husband: Archie
to check it out on the fourteenth of December. There she was, she was in seclusion,
and that was sort of the end of this mystery. Wasn't so much a mystery you now achieved.
By all accounts it seems like she went there, because she had fought
about, or maybe try to drive her car into that quarry in and kill herself, because
was upset about her marriage, ending yeah
and then it didn't happen
and she just kind of goes on a walk and ends up this place.
May or may not have invented and amnesia story.
It may have actually
happened to some degree. She didn't
about a lot. So we don't really know exactly what went down with the amnesia. He said that some two years later she go
in an interview with the daily mail, apparently explain the amnesia by saying she hid her head on the steering wheel, but in the same way,
interview. He says that she'd let go of the steering wheel, so she basically said, like I
suicide and it didn't work out a hit, my head on the steering wheel and I wondered,
and I had amnesia, but they did. They think that its it was just a family cover story to save face
this amnesia soaring, that really she had attempted to take her life and health
succeeded in our regretted it was a man
first by all of this, because the idea that there were thousands of people looking for, I think, I'm probably never
crossed her mind when she wandered away from her car now and that remember she was very shy person. So this all this attention,
Very very hard honour so that the family just came up with a cover story that she
amnesia, so don't bother asking and dump Archie and she stayed together for another year or so, and then their divorce finally became final
one thousand nine hundred and twenty eight yeah. So she didn't even mention this in her autobiography, which kind of says all you need to know about how much you like to talk about this
There is one other thing they did this to. It wasn't just Archie asking for a divorce. He asked for a divorce a few months
After her mother died and Agatha Christy's mother was beloved to her. She worships her mother. She thought she was wonderful. Her mother was the parent. That was therefore was.
You, can raise her. It was just a very interesting person that sounds like so she died or she asked for a divorce a few months later and then this whole mysterious disappearance happened, that's right and then one last thing
I read the at these Swan Hydro Hotel. She was actually playing cards in Chad
with other guests about this mysterious disappearance. That was in all the newspapers, and none of the other guests recognized her. It was those ban members that you mention interesting. I thought so too many
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All right. Let's take our final breakin, we'll talk a little bit more about her later life and further success
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So it's a nineteen twenty eight at this point. She is freshly divorced. She kept at night
because you know cheap, that's the name that made her famous. So it makes a lot of sense and
kept riding novels. She travelled on the Orient Express to Baghdad. She got into
archaeology, just sort of a hobbyist
and made friends with a couple were archaeologist
and to visit them in nineteen thirty, and on that trip
met a man, a maximum of one who-
and also an advance in an archaeologist thirteen years younger and they fell in love
and got married, which is a very, very sweet story, yet apparently
was giving her a tour of some archaeological sites and he got the car stuck and she apparently he said,
there she made no fuss about it, didn't blame him or anything like that and that he said that's about the time when I minister, to begin
flies that you're wonderful
so they got married and she
said later on that the good thing about being married to an archaeologist is that the older you get the more interested they become interesting refers.
Cute so this is when Miss marble comes along is as a detective in nineteen. Thirty, with the murder at the vicarage. Those are
That was the first Miss Marble book
and then she's travelling around she's doing these archaeological digs and trips
going to Syria and Iraq. She fell
love with Syria and the syrian people and she's
we create out some big books at this point in the nineteen thirties. That's like even even on archaeological digs chuck. Can you imagine how uncomfortable it would be to sit and right for hours at an archaeological site? I can't it will be tough. I would think- and yet she was still just as prolific is
ever yeah books like murder in Mesopotamia death on the Nile and murder on the Orient Express were all written during
period, and this is what really catapulted her
to international superstar them as an author right. So he
and MAC stay together first, I think, forty six years until her death, actually a ya, think yeah. She outlived him. So pretty sweet.
But despite all of this kind of thumb, adventure
an archaeological digs, unlike visits to them, the Middle EAST, most of her life
from that point, nine was in Devon sure.
In this tiny little area in the english countryside. In these the quaint little towns, and she garden in was very involved in local community theatre. That was her life. She was also one of these
biggest most well known, most best selling writers of of in the world. While she was alive and yet that's what she did, she hung out with community Theatre grouping Guard
There was just her life. Yes, she got the Dame commander of the order of the british Empire and nineteen seventy one
and the
it's too or novels, were held by company that she created for a long time and then before
she died. She sold part of that off in that's been sort of both.
Sold a bunch over the years, which is Canada. That usually happens.
She did retain enough of the of the company to have
worth a ton of money which he passed down to her
Author of courses are only child g
sort of took care of her mothers works for many. Many years then pass that,
to her only child, many Matthew Pritchard, who still holds these,
rights and still sort of manages that today, that's right through everything turn out well for Matthew Pritchard.
Once again, I wish you wish my grandma was actually a doctor's. I love my grandma, but share. Would it have killed her
internationally famous author, no wind,
and I'm glad we're. Finally talking about us
elephant in the room for a very long time, so she knew no out of these went on to be very famous films, tv series
Murder on the Orient Express has been a couple of big movies. In fact, one a couple years ago that I have not seen its unworkable has really been. I'm sorry. If you listen to this kind of broader, I couldn't make it through the first five minutes. Thou
Was it like it is at all. You know a lot. Can I brawny yes, so that my report
in the first five minutes?
she very famously has a play called the mouse trap which is
They beauty the West end and nineteen. Fifty two men, it is the longest running play in the history of the West end, which is remarkable yeah end to make ready.
Sweeter member, her sister, who said that she probably couldn't write a mystery novel. While her sister was the first in the family to get a play, pretty
on the West end, but it certainly wasn't the longest running play on the west end of all times. She got her back doubly, so
and then she was hit by train and Agatha Christie laughed and laughed Empoisoned, her corpse
So we need to talk a little bit here. The end we always liked to give everyone's give em.
An accolades they deserve, but also point out some of the things that were so great.
We do want a whitewash anything in,
she's, a lot of it, certain
racially insensitive language. Some would call Anti semitic at Times Anti Catholic
through parts of her career. So
that the anti defamation we complain to her age and at one point, and because of it,
American publishers were given the ability to change that stuff out sorted at will without without
any notice given to her. She does she didn't know. This is cool
oh yeah
These were like. I do not think the Americans are gonna go for this. The Brits can barely stand the Americans. Definitely I'm gonna. Take this well, and I read a lot about this in their different takes one
take is that the old? You know she was a product of her time thing which people you know
fully point out.
Another is the oftentime she's doing this to me
oh characters are sort of under debate.
What humans and sort of backward?
So there is that
as well, but yeah,
can't dance around the fact that she did you some pretty bad words, and
the Vienna, the disabled
stuff out. Then they were.
Even at the time you like that it wasn't it. Yes, you can say, like a lot of people, had different social attitudes toward race and racism in and in that sense she wasn't that much different, but there were cases where she was standing well outside of the norm, including in book titles in and characters, and things like that
I am one book in particular and then there were none was revised many many times, not just in the? U S, but in great Britain is well in its remarkable. In that sense,
but in another sense, is also remarkable in that it is considered pretty widely too
given birth to these slasher film genre. Did you know that
I didn't until my bread bed tat idea. I look
this up a little more and
on its own and then there were nine at the book ends sorry for the spoiler everybody, but it ends with
think of the suspects killing one another.
And everyone dies in the stage adaptation of the play that she helped right there. The final girl
the female characters left alive and his out dawn the murderer whose come together, which, as you know, for the formula for any slept,
film whatsoever, but there's a bunch of other elements in there too, and there, like you know, even unlike horror, fan wikis. They they point to that is
the genuine birth, even more than psycho of this slasher film genre, interesting yeah.
It is pretty interesting. You heard of ever thought that Agatha Christie with her
on, violence in imposing an occasional races
would have been a wonder to birth. Displeasure found a cage on racism yet and a lot of that. The racist after to put up a final pin on that was a lot of
was character. Descriptions which can
the sum of the ugliest kinds of stuff like that
is it wasn't just like talking about food,
ass. If ease it was just like literally physically describing a character. Sometimes she would use some pretty pretty derogatory language. Yet so again it's a bit like
exploring rosebud black learning historical characters, always weird little bugs under the rocks. You turn over. You
I'm glad we're doing our great work and the time of weakness recreating
no one can ever go back. I mean we made myths, steps here and there, but they can't go back and talk about when Josh and check
big racists at the beginning. You know it's true, but just wait for toys
years from now the be like. I can't believe we target those guys we're ages, bastards, probably so there.
One other thing I want to say too so when she lived through war war to Agatha Christie was worried that she is going to die in the bombing blitz of Great Britain,
and she really wanted her keel, paw row and Jane Marbles to have a final case. So she wrote a book for each of them. One is called curtain. That's poor rose from fine,
book and the others sleeping murder that is marbles final case and dumb in it just kind of explains what happened.
I believe poor road dies in marble to Sir retires, but when she survival works,
issues like why? Don't I'm not ready for these guys be retired yet so she kept those books and had them posthumously published in they were in the seventies and when her quick Hercules, poor rose last book came out, new died,
The New York Times ran a front page obituary for him, the only fictional character to have that honour bestowed on them as crazy,
in that year and also very cool good idea to write those
looks early on just in case, because you never know yeah. Besides the bombing thing I mean she did, the she could walk
where'd you get hit by a bus or die of
draw causes early. Like you never know, and then you ve got this legacy cemented great, pretty smart. Have you ever seen?
My thing of yours, he murdered by death. I know I've asked you before
I have a dvd sitting on my desk. Well, that's amazing!
you. Have there on your desk a new way
on your desk at work, so their own place, I'm gonna stay watch it tonight, but don't wiser tonight way.
Until everything clears was. I wondered. What was it? No, it's a spoof actually detective books of like Charlie Chain and Agatha Christie, and same spade, and all that that she helped you no kind of create. But it's actually like a complaint from fans of mystery mysteries
it says of wonderful book trimming movie Truman Capacities in David NIB Peer draw, Gryce Peter Falk. Here a lot of people Jane.
Chrome well, as a younger man area. James Cocoa is Hercules Horowitz his great you're gonna love him in
Yes, we should say that she did die eventually, five years
Three years after I met her in the
seventy six at the age of eighty five
home and Oxfordshire or Oxfordshire, and it was natural causes not poison. Last her last words were good to meet you anything else. I do not have anything else,
we're friends, there is Agatha Christie. If you, I know more about like the Chrissy Gusto reading, Agatha Christie books and suggest that Agatha Christie like three or four times it's time for listener me
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