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don't don't do. Did you know that jobs are there to chopsticks now is teasing this heart and soul. Ok said the so what I said from big that was chopsticks right, total yeah, Robert Robber Loescher knew him in. I should have continued, showing instead we can now. There is a very James can like role there. Wasn't it totally? I think he played that role and while I get enough What is a crime boss, a sort of that sort of movie? Truly, we watched the misery. The other Dave still holds up. Man I remember seeing that for the first time in Athens, when I was in college, so great Susan, Cathy Bates can do no wrong. She did great. But if you watch james- and he did really well too, like her his whole kind of trepidation manner. Toward her was really well done and not overdone at all like it. He did a great job as well, and he-

lay there in a bed for weeks and weeks and act. Yeah sounds like a dream, and if he, if he balked at it, they would attach a catheter too and make him pee in his own mouth as punishment. Little known fact about that movie chopsticks right. We should point out here that in researching this chopsticks in customs and etiquette, if covered with all the countries and all that stuff that use chopsticks we'd, be here all day, so there's kind of a focus here, on Japan will not happen, Seemed to be a little the most sensitive transgressions with chopsticks out of all of the asian cultures, I think perhaps they have the most rules against him at the very least yet. But when you read em it's they could all be summed up as just stumpy a dumb American, yeah or dont have any fun

whatsoever, through chops, if it exists in another way to you like, what's wrong with making them antennas in a restaurant and going right more me right. I'm always about. Why can I be oh, all right, but we are talking chopsticks, not the song, sorry to disappoint you, everybody, but I saw that that that song is actually called chopsticks, because it was originally called the celebrated shop waltz, K, rare by a sixteen year old school girl, from England seems about right ship so, but we're talking about the the utensils and like when you think chopsticks. Obviously you think like Asia, and you don't think that there was ever anything but chopsticks in the history of Asia and while chopsticks are actually surprisingly all they think they go back about seven thousand years, us all. Five thousand years, I'm gone with seven, I think they're there actually about his ancient is that they weren't like the go to utensil for Asia until

This millennium gathered the spoon was gonna, go to your who knew the word chop. Stick they think be pigeon English, chinese, pigeon, English, meaning chop chop or quickly right? But you know this one of these etymology, this sort it's up to pin down it, looks like, but that's the english word for it in all of this chopsticks using cultures, they have their own words. They can Joanne it's how she it's cool, easy in China, nice. I'm not sure if I said there right at all GEO, Gar Rock in korean- not it's not it's! Nice and doin. Decoy Dua in Vietnamese are honest, half of the world's population. I love that you started strong in Japan, they'll kill, you feel pretty confident in your japanese pronunciations. It's a good way to go. Yes, I have a great tudor right so, five to seven.

Thousand years ago, They were used initially for cooking and we'll get into the ins and outs of the history, but there are made from twigs probably and it was much much later, like you said that they were table utensils right, and then it was all very much like practicality based yeah, because in it leave they figured out pretty early on these some, the Chinese from five thousand seven thousand You got a really bad idea to secure hand into a pot of boiling water to get something out of it. Like a boner, a piece of meat or something like that is way better to use a twig and its even better to use to twigs as if they were a kind of a pair of detached. Tweezers sugar, apparently where they initially started to come into use, was during cooking and food preparation, not the actual eating process, that's right. There was a big population boom and

China, at one point some might say there continues to be settled. And resources became a little more scarce. They started cutting food up in a little tiny pieces. For reasons of like helps, it cook faster right I wonder I didn't say anything about this, but I wonder if that also just made it more terrible among a larger family. I could see that as a great point two and it isn't it Fascinating, though the idea that a population boom led to widespread use of the chop, yeah it's interesting and then Confucius also was a vegetarian and noted knife Haider, a quote about knives. The honourable and upright man keeps well away from both the slaughter house in the kitchen, there's no knives on his table, and I think That was a little more because a knife was acquainted with eating meat right less than like it's a garbage tool.

You don't need, you don't need a knife to eat a planet. Basically some would argue you might want to cut a piece of broccoli. Maybe, but you don't have to I just some Confucius, that's the level of arrogance it. I might read again and I think some of the early- and you know it started in- and China and then you know pretty soon. Korea view nah Japan Rural using them, but I think that chinese chopsticks. Were joined at the they are now. What are they called now with their joined? And he let us put him apart, where oh Laura by she. That's Japanese is the term for disposable, chopsticks, ok, but I thought I thought the chinese chopsticks. Originally joined like that, yet knows: japanese! Ok, there was a single piece of bamboo that was like split kind of like a giant tweezers Ok yeah, I'm reading this now I had it sometimes

wait. You're just now living in this will now I get sometimes in its the dumbest thing, but I get confused between former and ladder. Oh yeah, it's not that I get confused have to go back and sort of shared pictured in my brain? It just takes an extra second. I think for everybody. Happy tits deftly not intuitive, feel bad. Also thought. The sing about food poisoning was in thing was that in dynastic times in China they would you And I guess people there a little more well heeled. Would you silver chopsticks, because they thought that if it came into contact with something that was poisonous than the chopsticks would turn black and they would know not to eat it? I mean it just makes sense. When you're, rich and wealthy more people want to kill you, so it's better to have something that shows a somebody's trying to poison. You like your chopsticks, turning a color.

Fear being poisoned with cyanide or something like that right column is, it doesn't actually work, and I dont know why they didn't just think that, through from the gecko like, how will it get ourselves? Some cyanide and stick a silver chops again and see what happens and see that doesn't work, but apparently does work the presence of garlic or rotten eggs because they put out hydrogen sulfide. So it will turn silver, a different color so I dont know how garlic ever made itself into a staple of chinese cooking, but there we have it yet, and the other thing I thought was inch- and we should mention to this- came from a variety of places, Teague in It gives MOTO lease of Roman from Smithsonian Mag a Edward Wang from Cambridge blog half po believe it or not got in the works and some other places, but

I thought that Q, Edward wags history was really interesting because he mentions that wheat is kind of the first reason before rice, which really surprised it was very surprising. I think he knew all along that. That was a big revealed, no yeah, but that's what gave chopsticks a shot in the arm. So first we have cutting food into smaller pieces. To till, have it cook faster, see useless firewood? Yet I guess there's a population boom and then, as we becomes kind of fashionable and widespread, You start to use chopsticks because you're, making things like noodles in dumpling, air and prior to this millet was the young the go to green. It's really small is much smaller than rice and you certainly are going to turn it Like a neutral or dumpling. You may

rule out of it and so for thousands of years the go to utensil that people used to eat with in China was spoon, because they were eating gruel or porridge or whatever, by hated life, but when We came along, they started turning in noodles and dumplings. They said oh yeah. I remember those things that we use this twigs too to cook with what have we made a smaller version of those to eat with two and that's where the Coptic, at its first, like real boost in in usage around Asia yeah mean try to eat a big spoonful of noodles and just watch as they flop off and sling Delicious, also very valuable place. There is literally nothing more frustrating in trying to eat noodles with a spoon in the entire world yeah and ensure you could chop them up and a tiny little pieces, so

Rest in your spoon was some broth sure. But who wants to do that, like the person that cuts up their boats Getty at the table and a tiny bit is at? six year old, yet or just thoroughly on American through one of the two, maybe both Gimme your nose sophisticated this picture, others thing that was interesting to from Mr Lange's article was. He talked about stew, which is, being in Chinese, the aid alatas, Back then, in chopsticks would be very useful for picking up things like that. The more solid objects in the stew, like the vegetables right so we're coming in the end, the vogue you get smaller pieces, vegetables, stooping chopsticks, are like come on. And do you gotta do is we do need one more thing to get us over. The hump and people are gonna know

everywhere around the world and that one thing was a particular kind of vietnamese rice that ripens early apparent and it's a shorter grain or medium grain, which means that it's easier to a club smart usually has a lot of like starts- has to it. So it's just kind of clumpy, sticky, rice and here in the west- we're not really used to that kind of rice. So we're like how are you going to use chopsticks to eat? this stuff like try eating some uncle bands with chopsticks. You can't do it like trying to eat noodles with this. Yeah or you would just do that- and this is what I didn't understand when I was growing up those little naive when I saw chopsticks, I would just think about scooping up the rice on top of them. Very awkwardly, and it was an answer. I was a little bit older and had good clunky chinese rice right and japanese rice, like oh, it's very easy to eat with chopsticks yeah

dislike o K. I've got a stick together, take a nice little more solid food and it sticks together just about the right size and in its it's it's totally different. So when you eat chinese rice or japanese rice or even vietnamese rights of sticky arise, then you understand. Ok, you can use this as a as you can use chopsticks for this, and the chinese figure this out as well. When rice became much more staple of the asian Diet and all of a sudden. Now you didn't need a spoon anymore is hereby like to hack with millet, who once gruel nobody yesterday through their spoons out the window, and then they started is eating chopsticks for everything you could use it forever, Now, that's all you needed for your meal yeah and that Alan one solution, I think, was that happen. In China and Japan and Vietnam for sure.

Korea, I think, was the one stand out because I believe in Korea. The spoon in the chopsticks still go hand in hand. Yet in this I believe it was Q, Edward Lange who may be wrote. This mini basically said it. It seems to be a conscious decision right inquiry almost as if they were being contrary or something like that. Maybe they just want to do their own thing, what they eat a lot of very, very hot, Who's in soups River had Buddha J. I don't think so. I'm not even sure, I'm saying it correctly. You ever been to eat like each harder like a asian food court or something like that. You're. If you go to a cream place, they usually have. I think it's called Buddha G Gay, it's like hot dog suit. Basically my lord and it's like this kind of I'm not even sure I guess it's like a chilly paste, bra

With lots of great process meat in like rom in like collops, Ngos is just so good, but that thing comes to you boiling and use pussy like either chunky parts out with it with a chopsticks, but I guess the it always comes with a spoon too, so I think you're supposed to actually eat the boy with the spoon rather than set. I tell you one thing I do. Love is the design of the land. Looking at the chinese spoon Antonov. It originated in China, but you know the soup spoon I'm talking about you're like the one you use for me, so super man they're just the best guess they do they cause. You can get a really big spoonful on their unanimous ergonomic adjusts it's the way. It is the way to do it unless you're just gonna pick up the bowl and drink it, which is great to hear up with me so soup spoon, alright, let's take a break as I'm so hungry after you said hot dogs. Do my stomach growing and we'll come back and we'll talk more about chopsticks

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might be a nod to Confucius, basically saying like don't have knives at your table. Don't even have vaguely sharpen chopsticks even like nothing stabbing nothing, don't you don't wanna be stared at you. I think in Japan their little sharper and little shorter, but you're still not supposed to be stab and stuff. No, don't stab that peace, a tuna! No it's. You can just tell if you ve ever done that, while you're doing it, they are violating some unnatural hard feels wrong. Doesn't it Let me see here in Korea. Apparently, there are shorter as well and they are also blunt, but they can be metallic yeah. That's one thing that will see what we're going talk about. As with everything inexact. Since there's some horrid environmental impact with chopsticks as well by the Japanese, are like give us cheap disposal

wooden or bamboo chopsticks, and basically nothing else. Yeah they're, just crazy for where some of the other asian cultures like knowing we can use reusable ones, but the Japanese like now. We want nothing but disposable, cheap chopsticks that worry bushy. I assume that you and you me, have your own chopsticks at home area, and do you bring those two restaurants? Oda? No, no, never do. We should now I'll every I should but equally when I'm there might not man, I should Brahma chopsticks. Well. You know I mean like if you go to any asian store, they have like cute little. It looks almost like a pencil case. Hood, it's you know, chopsticks inside it for you did to carry him around with you, but who no one does that you just don't, even though, hopefully, in ten years, when we're all like okay, this is out of control and in this is really bad. Everyone will be doing that. You just don't do

and yet we have some that like got you just put in my genes, pocket and walk around with. If I wanted to, but I dont do it yandah, I take my straw now I use it because I now keep it in my purse with your mercy, nurse, which gives everywhere with me yet twenty Anita throw some chopsticks in there sure, and it is a good feeling when you say- strong I've got my own, and I would love to be able to say that you keep those wooden chopsticks yeah, take that Strawn shove it under the sun shining wow that aggressive it's so funny, depending on where you are in the country, though, like it. If they bring you a straw, and you say no, no strong police, they look at you like you're, just a straight up, democratic social is a happy you know, like China undermine the government or something like that. It's can hilarious yeah sure, but other places now are others couple places a man

My neighborhood, you have these things on the wall when you walk in talking about the impact of straws and that straws are upon request only right, and if you get a problem with that, you can take a straw and shove it where this issue right or you'd. You take that problem to the voting booth. This fall over a hate. Exactly so, are you prepared? Because I have a feeling you do a better job than me at this, because you Roy you so often have great convoluted ways of describing visual things, I'm do a great job describing to you, because you can watch my hands, but I think for everybody. Listening is going to be very problematic, aright how do you use chopsticks? I'm gonna get you back for this when shock. So I did it intuitively by the way, which is what I suggest yeah an ever wider thing. Watson reading it and having explained, makes it way hard

I agree. I think it is one of the things you have to watch. Somebody do in practice. I mean it's just all practice, but essentially there's a couple things to remember is that both chopsticks, we are laying do you want. Do you wanna go step by step through it now? I think I want the Josh method. Ok, while it's the same, it's the same method or the job description. Okay, so in the valley between your thumb and your forefinger? Ok, the web that's where the chopsticks rest, the thumb taint, thumbs, hatred showed your hand, Shell, oh my god and showed great man really is Where did the two chopsticks lay right? There? Ok one of them. The bottom one is basically meant to be immobile and stationery is basically stays there and it's the top one that you're you're you're, moving your kind of holding with your forefinger your index finger

your middle finger, you that's that's what you're using to move this, this top one, and so it's really the bottom when that stays basically stationary in the top one is the one that's moving and you just using it to kind of to pick up in tweets food or Reiser whatever with. If you get really good, you can like pick your friend up with the right or catch a fly. If you're since a level that are home to chop six for sure, but that's essentially it and that the? U dont want to hold it too tightly if you're, if you're grouping it too tightly or your muscles are to ten year relied on. And to be able to come to two too can make that tweezer ocean very easily or you're. Certainly not gonna have much control. It's kind of paradoxical that the loose there. You have your hand to a certain degree the more control you over the chopsticks in the tension that you're you're directing toward the end of the chopsticks, so keeping keep your hand loose, but in control and just make sure you.

Number that the bottom one that's kind of resting all the way along your thumb, three others, basically stationary in the top one, is the one you're directing with your index finger and middle finger. I recommend halfway through your meal, switch those two out because at bottom one, this along for the ride, here yeah. They need to do a little work. You know what I mean so just switch them out, and make that when the top and give it you know make it do a little sweat sweating. I think that's pretty good chunk a little sweat. I think we deserve a Peabody award for describing how to use chopsticks no visual! You did talk about the environmental impact a little bit, but it is a real problem. I mean you see these tiny little things anything. What's the big warp like a tree probably make a gazillion chopsticks, so they need like true, maybe ten, trees and China to make all the chopsticks they need. Do you do

number. There was just one thing to remember that cartoon might have been a simply do something that were they chopped down a tree and they show impressed seeing one single tree and adjusted in individual toothpick had originally curtains and head of either, since, as you know, Jonathan there, like no eight. We make one chopsticks out of just a single true at any rate, to fix man Hamid to fixing to get out of a tree. I dont even know their their problem there on the horizon right, but when you think about the fact that China alone produces eighty billion disposable chopsticks every year. Then you get a little bit more of a sense of exactly how many of these trees It says here there was a clear I'm trying to find a wet year. This it was. It was fairly recently, but they ve had like parliamentary meetings and stuff about this in China and estimated that it takes about twenty million twenty year old trees. To cover their annual rate of production

A guy named by was Jean pretty sure. I said his last name ear. He he's like a representative from the G lean forestry industry group and he really like rocked every de at a parliamentary meeting where he basically said hey, do you remember that old figure that everybody has been touting for years that we actually use fifty seven billion chopsticks a year produce fifty seven billion chopsticks I year he says way off it's actually. Eighty Billy and, like you just said, we need twenty million twenty year old trees to meet that a year. Yeah and people said wow, that's kind of a problem and so around round the around the world like China. So of that eighty billion, I think China, half of them stays in China of.

Other half. I wondered about that. Seventy seven percent goes to Japan, Korea and Japan is actually the one that started all this think they came up with disposable. Chopsticks worry by she all the way back in eighteen. Seventy eight and has just been, crazy form ever sent. You like you, can go there like a pretty high end restaurant in Egypt, and in their going to have wooden chopsticks that you allowed chops, care that you would pull apart there There are also plenty of restaurants in Japan that have reusable ones in their much more elegant or whatever, but it's not like you, wouldn't just walk into be like what is this disposable chop succeed, getting cause they're, just such a part of japanese culture, so these seventy seven percent of the other half Korea is twenty one percent and two percent comes to the United States is at all. I have to catch those two thousand eleven figures, which is the latest. I could find yeah I'm kind of surprise that I would think China and Japan or would you seem like they would everyone would have their own and it would

a very like pride full thing to take care of your chopsticks into have something cool. Looking yeah. It is kind of surprises me that they're so down with the disposable surprises alot of people aspire. Japan is like really well known for being antique meticulous yet with recycling. Reducing waste and such like that and fit yet just this one thing They really love their disposable chopsticks. And they just thrown away their not being recycled or composting or anything I there is being thrown in the trash. So some. So what I read is that some restaurants will offer you know tee for free if you your own chopsticks, or maybe like in this field for free and fair burden

they are basically but the there's not like a lot of there's, not a huge amount of movement in Japan where China- and this is- I think I read this and Likud, like New York Times Green Bog, or something like that. China's made some some moves like like taxing disposable, adding an extra tax. Dispose gap sakes. I think more regulation, basically overall, I think, which is really saying something you know I mean, there's there's like apparently a whole sub industry to the disposable chopsticks industry. That is small enough, that it is apes, a lot of oversight and they can be really problematic, there can be a lot of chemicals in these chops, they're just taken all around basic nightmare, and it's just such hanging through all everybody has to do is have their own chops in his, but just people just won't do it and I'm guilty to like. I said only we we every usable ones at home, but we don't take him out of the house ever yet. Plus,

The paper used to in case indeed said chopsticks. That's a lot of paper to yeah. It is then what that's tough, heated rip it open and burned at the table, though yeah yeah yeah, it's true, should take another break, will take another breakin talk a little bit about etiquette right after their skills,

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and with the etiquette and like you said, I think they take it a little more seriously than some other asian countries, because it turns out that job sticks can and have had an important part in burial rights yet and funeral rights Buddhist funeral right. Like a lot of the the taboos. I guess you'd call em over chopsticks in Japan. And in other asian countries, to our kind of based on like well. That's that's kind of some thing we do with funeral right in so that reminds us of that. Japan is not crazy about being reminded of death. Or mortality pain, say me all that stuff is very unlucky, like the number four is unlucky, because the word for four, I think she also sounds very much like the word for it right, I think I remember that bit so they don't have four elevator floors that right-

or making them if they do or not, but let's go with that, they don't kiss. It sounds pretty great. So etiquette level. Wine is. How is how this is presented? There's a couple, a levels here, as far as you really shouldn't. Do these things but If you really want to wrap it up, you shouldn't do these things as well. I felt they were And a willy nilly didn't you well I mean this is one person's opinion right but The things that you really shouldn't do are the following: do not if you like, get to go to the bathroom, don't stick your choice sticks sitting up right in your bowl of rice, no, and that has to do with the household Buddhist alter because it is a bowl of rice is offered as to a dead end, in spirit- and this apparently is from abuse Buddhist buddhist- funeral rights as well, because there's a photograph,

of a bowl of rice and to stick chopsticks in the middle of that would be verboten. I think it's they'll have like a photograph of the deceased and they give em a bull uncooked Rice, so this and they stick the chopsticks up in a k a rather reminiscent of that that so dates. So it's got that death. Thing going on the death angle, yeah and then The other thing I saw about that too, is that they are also is reminiscent of a like a ball of sand with incense sticking out of it that you would also put on a buddhist shrine to the deceased another like way too reminiscent of death. For that to be ok. Ok now make sense. Now there's another one that very similar, don't leave your chopsticks crossed right, like resting on your ball or on your plate. Just don't cross your chopsticks its impolite, basically for the exact same reason is sticking out of

The boy right, and I think that one is when you see like on Food Instagram food- puts a lot from whitey. Then like crossed the chopsticks, because it looks cool or whatever look at how cool this look not go. Apparently I would about sparing. The advice here is to treat them as if they are actually connected, even though they are not Good waiter elaborate, like pretend connected. That's right, yeah and remember. This is like that. I think that goes back to like Confucius were is like. Don't don't have a knife at your table? Dont use your chopsticks a spear food, that's right Apparently it's bad luck, not bad luck. What may be bad luck to use two different chopsticks yeah. They should have the same mommy and daddy this person, so there's just unsightly and that its so reminiscent funeral. Writes that when I couldn't, I couldn't figure that one out there is there is,

other funeral one to the lot of funeral rights, involve chopsticks passing and food from chopsticks chopsticks like if you like, hey, get a try: by this. That's part, you hold up its it, but it's kinda. It's it's. A little bit Shelly If you can do it, look at us, but I'm buying When you, you know it, somebody grabs a with their chopsticks, that's how they pass bones from cremation during funeral rights too, and there like now that reminds us of that is well yet in These are just like. I can't believe people do. This, do not washer chopsticks off in your beverage yeah! That's gross! Someone do that. I don't know Apparently somebody has the other thing about this is so the fact that they have restrictions on this social restrictions means that people have done it before, but they also go so far as like. Most of these things all have like individual words, the tow like Agro. The Japanese are about this. This can edit Kenya. They have words for that, like washing your chopsticks oftener drink is not just called right

Can you chopsticks off in your dear there's a name for it? Let me see here do not treat them as toys and we talked earlier about putting them in your mouth like their fangs or walrus TUSK. Sir Antennas herb drumsticks, just not a good luck. Here's another! When there is, this is a sort of. That, I think happens. A lot is you might see women american women maybe do their hair and put chopsticks in them those you see that in Japan those are not chopsticks, aid might look like jobs dicks, but there actually called consortium. Yeah became like sticking a fork in your hair, you're, walking round Japan looking like that, they be like. Why do you wear? Why do you have a fork in your hair and looks a little off but yeah? That's like they look just like those things, but there's a separate thing: that's right!

What did you call Kansas? She yeah nice, it's a beautiful when he added make up right and another one is your very frequently see people do this, and in I've done it too, in its apparently excess acceptable under certain circumstances, but when you break your war, abashed your disposable, cheap chopsticks apart and at the end, if their splinters others like a piece of wood sticking out, you can rub them together. How was I to soften the the wood or get the splinters on, but you're not supposed to do. That is just like a matter of course. Because your basically insulting the restaurant you're saying like these are so cheap. This chopsticks that your providing your gandia that, like I got, rub them together, if we don't wanna like make eye contact with the owner while you're rubbing it together like this is what I think of your establishment in you'd people. Do there all the time? I do it

like a bit you it's habitual for me, and I started doing it when I first started using chopsticks, because I saw the person I was with it and I was hanging a guess. That's what you do you get a little splinters off and now it's a total habit and whole thing there. I don't think that once a really big one like it, especially in America, and so much. I don't think anyone, restaurant owners like super insulted by seeing this shirt- yes specially number, but they are super cheap and they do splinter right. Why, in that case, yes, like that that that proprietors brought it on himself or herself from providing everybody such cheap chopsticks that there's plenary. I will always remember this nowadays that yeah this is this, so I agree with you. I think that this is probably not that big and so, especially in America, it's probably falls in line with like how you're not supposed to like put your with, saw, be put in the sauce or something like that long. If you want to do

you sure you know if you wanna be remarkably polite than you wouldn't do any of these things, summer way worse than others, and I think that one probably falls into the lesser category iii- oh it's under this advancing. This is why I was saying the seams: will yeah, and that we also covered some of this in our sushi episode, because if I'm not mistake then, don't you eat, so she with her fingers or Morocco. You don't you with your fingers, or do you not nine? I I love showing off how great I am a child. Every turn you gotta get overcoming can't. I eat millet grew with chopsticks. That's how good I am, or you I've seen you just flip up. I've been catch it and the other one. What a show off pretty grim Hagen, because you have chopsticks your for Europe to any chance you baby

space, and we do a little side show there. It's really impressive, Edward Scissor, Josh chopsticks finger, but no you're supposed to e sushi, specifically Nigeria. Right right with your hand, that's how it was originally done. If I remember correctly from our sushi episode so yeah, but yeah. We chopsticks these things, here's another! No no is do not use. Chopsticks is a rake like don't lift up a bowl of rice industry. Rick Rice into your mouth, so as Japan I saw in China this perfectly. Something really normal again. Yeah yeah, it's an icy with. It's not the same in you know, yet here's the thing our own off. We said this for so in Thailand. They dont use chopsticks almost as a rule.

In Vietnam, Korea, Japan, China, there there totally ubiquitous almost the only thing, you're gonna find that you eat with, and so that means that, like even a bowl of soup like me, so soup you're supposed to use your chopsticks for that like the little chunks of of some of the tofu yet to Greece you use your ear chop sixty eat those out of the ball, and then you slurp, yeah, rest or sip, the rest depending, but with rice. You would hold the ball up kind of close to your face banality up in your face and just under your chin and out a little bit and then you, you know: eat eat the rice with your chopsticks from their lifting the rice up to your mouth, not shoveling it into your from the ball right and I saw with soups- and things also is If you really want to ramp up the etiquette, you should try and drip into the ball.

Oh right when you like, when you are picking up the tofu, you want a kind of shot shake the tofu off, so it doesn't drip on. You are on the table. Yes you really want egg cell etiquette. You would just not eat anything. You do sit there quietly refute talks at the time I sighed still in their wrapper dismay, politely at everyone. I didn't break any rules and I'm really hunger strike there's a couple more here. Don't points with your chopsticks tough! Not to do do you point. I don't people. You know anything about me. I d like that: can impasse museum wording right there, ya, undistorted, give a little more likely that the pot sticker over there yet because there find a hold in point with. Unlike you stuff with I just maybe I'm still it still novel, Linda to me, they I have to remind myself not to two point or you me has of whom he met the point with the chopsticks or when you're talking, near expressing things with your hands and your using your chopsticks or, if you

I just do a little maestro routine right. You know that's looked down upon it, or if you, if you're, using your hands or something else, you don't stick your chopsticks in your mouth and just hold them in there, while you're like moving plates around or something like that, you can set them down and here's the other thing too. You go to a very nice restaurant in Japan, Japan or in the states in it just happens. Be japanese restaurant about the head really prolong this thought. You'd they're gonna, give you a chopsticks rest. O short, you chopsticks, so they're kind of lifted off the table and in the end that you put in your mouth, if you don't have that, you can take that paper, wrapper role it up and make your own chopsticks rest at right, cause you're, setting your chopsticks down on a table could be, you know, have germs right and speaking of germs also check. You never ever use the chopsticks that you're eating with to serve yourself from a communal plate or bull

That's for sure they should give you like a spoon or something like that to spoon it on your plane, then easier chopsticks, because that's just german and diseases and apparently there's a like a supplement to that were if they dont give you a serving spoon. People flip their chopsticks over and use the thicker and now shovel the food under the plate, which is not enough thoroughly anymore. Hygienic causes very hands have been rather than your mouth. Well, that's the more socially acceptable thing to do than just using the business, Andy or chopsticks it. Why that's funny to me? but the ends, though if you're, using them right, you're choked up a little bit so they're not really being touched by your hands. You now true, like you, don't stick that the ends in your palm, destroying its true. You show up on it like a baseball bat yeah. They saying

Maria apparently that the the further down, though you hold the chopsticks, the longer it's going to be before you get married. We I mean You talk about some of these kind of fun, fun facts. Fine. Let me see here, one is, if you given an uneven pair, you will miss a boat or a plane, and this is it came from Malaysia, I'm not sure. If that ubiquitous Oliver Asia. I think it's chinese. Ok, I think what else here. This is kind of fun. If use chopsticks. It involves over fifty muscles in the fingers and thirty joints in well overall in the fingers, arms shoulders and wrists yeah pretty cool.

It is that mean how many use for a fork like to maybe give me a break. I saw a couple of things. One is that there was a study that found the eating popcorn with chopsticks makes eating popcorn much more enjoyable than eating it, without chopsticks with your fingers instead and they even controlled for the amount of extra time it takes to eat popcorn with chopsticks. It's not just that you're eating slower so you're, relishing it more because they had a control group using their fingers eat at a very slow pace to, and apparently they think it's just the fact that you're doing something differently makes you appreciate the thing that you're doing for that you're eating that much more

like I'm proud of you poor water out of like a separate Nina water bottle, I get a restaurant, how they have like the little chilled water bottles so bring over looking at Wonderland EAST, who it tastes better than water that I'm? U just poured out the tap, even if it was the exact same order, because his being conveyed differ. Yeah, and that's also how you would get popcorn to last through the opening Previews of a movie right cause. You're, not shovelling it in your mouth. Like I do it's so bizarre man, I do the same thing. I tried to do the like couple of colonels at a time and you know I do that for the first few and then before you know it, I've just got handfuls that I'm pushing into my mouth right right. That's how you have to do you after you, The palm of your hand to really shot the entire fitful in there. You can't just use your little finger Tipps, it doesn't work, you know Ganem, and I don't know if it's.

A subliminal desire for me not to be distracted during the movie, but the ideal in the ideal world. I would just sit there and much a couple of pieces at a time for two hours. Like just to a million times, not just eat a couple, a colonels at a time and just really along the whole experience, take put those chopsticks in your merce closer to the theatre. People be like look at that guy, hey, though you have to be careful, though Chet, yes, the yes, they were Do you have to be careful, though, who you brandish those chopsticks round, because so you put this together vetoes for that? One of the fact she came up with is that there's something called consecutive live lay a phobia consecutively. A phobia think has said, which is literally a fear of chopsticks yeah, there's a fearful of everything, but you. But yes, but I was reading a blog posts on it and some may be Psych NED. I think, and they were so

like there's, basically two categories of phobias ones. There are semi rational re use. The example of a fear of sharks might well. If you did run into a shark there's a chance, you could be killed by that shark. So it's not just totally bonkers to be afraid of sharks by the phobia of sharks as in a rational fear like maybe, if you live in Kansas, you got no reason to have a fear of sharks this this one. They said this basically qualifies him. Isn't the bankers category like there's virtually nothing that chopsticks can do too? two, so to be irrationally afraid of chopsticks, where you feel like heart, pounding anxiety is, is it is again New and died in the wool phobia, but it does some people do apparently experiences solar, super rare yeah. That's interesting, but you'll like avoid entire types of restaurant on can't be around chopsticks and you'll, get anxious just thinking about being around chopsticks sad because asian food

makes up a large portion of my diet. Well, luckily, for you, you don't have consecutive layer phobia I mean when I think about sushi think about far no, I think about Rahman. I think about good old fashion, such one Chinese, food, oh yeah, think about Korean and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Equities, the equity that all the time did you gotta get some booty, Gigi I'll. Take you to go, get some. Aren't you get it Can wait. You anything else. I got nothin else, forty five minutes on chopsticks baby bad. If you I know more about chopsticks, go get yourselves. That you can reuse and eat conscientiously with them and don't forget all the manners, but to go it's him asian food, because no matter where its farmer, what it is, it's probably pretty good agreed since I said that it's time for listener, mail

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