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Do motivational speakers motivate people?

2017-08-08 | 🔗

There are all kinds of motivational speakers, from people who have overcome incredible hardships to those who hold pep-rally style events in stadiums. But do these speakers actually help anyone? Science can't prove it out, but people who take part swear by it. Learn all about the strange world of motivational speakers in today's episode.

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Welcome to stop. You should know how stuff for Stockholm pay and work another podcast on George part. There's Charles did Richard Wright, there's jerry! So is the stuff you should know, and we here to say that you can do it. You can do it can accomplish those goals. You can. That port vet shoe for the stars, engage your passion, ignite, your fury, actual fury That is my new I'm trying to get a vote. I want to go to Europe motivational seminar, ignite your fears got igniting fury, Josh Clark, that's pretty good! I know they're in coopers doing this week, hey doing I'm due good man, I'm feeling kind of pumped took some vitamin, be twelve. Thirty p m
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To go by a whole new bottle of mane and tail is felt dumb. I think their liking. It I'm going I'm going back to check one point out for you, man welcome back to fight club. You haven't easier. Fingernails does look acceptable. Would you think about this topic? I thought that I couldn't ever. I couldn't that the end would never come. What like researching it yeah, I guess we know how we both feel about this. Then it's not even due to have to say I got switched MID, mid research. My mother tone of my research changed because of Nancy Besser, why so here's the thing this is my personal opinion, give it at the frightened. You can decide whether to listen to the rest of the absurd or not it's the motivational speaking is so
flimsy and jelly like a whole field is so I'm scientifically based and just so prone to Huxley. The men allotted cases yeah that I just didn't want a researcher was just like. I hate this stuff so much and then partway. I was too, but I was doing you diligence on professional. As you know, the earth, by poor way through I was reading, the in the house, the first article about Nancy Besser So I went on to her side did some more research on her and I her? I think like about me or her mission, or something like that as they actually that's. I dont disagree with anything this lady just set like that's great good for her good, for where she came from for which is trying to do if she wants to make some money doing it awesome so saying that it definitely change course and poem
back from the brink, which I think was really needed because I was really kind of like I was crop circle in it. You know I mean and am she brought me back, and I appreciate that you are, and I'd like to find out how I can smell her some money In my opinion, was the like this we're gonna front load the opinions and then talk about the moral throughout my deal is this: if you have a really great story to tell about your life, because maybe you overcome some great adversities, maybe your quadriplegic or may be european
you or the head of a life threatening illness or if you had any general like major life, hardships that you overcame and are like killing and life, and you have a great story to tell that a sincere and you got there and make some dough inspiring people. Then awesome. Yes, if you are just really good, holding a pepper, Sally Ann, you don't have any big story in your life other than the fact that you are like hey, I'm kind of good at this, and I think I can make some dough and I've met these celebrities at a met, these famous people and they think I'm cool. I have to feel about that. One is if people are genuinely being helped. Am I gonna get their young man? That's great. I think that's good for you to say, but I look at that.
Other! Seen with a very weary! I because it reeks of everything from taking advantage of people to sometimes it even sounded like ideology. Oh yeah, there's a lot of religious overturns the whole thing in that it would be like well by this book, and then by this one and then come to this seminar and then by this thing, and it had it had all the markings of like a pyramid scheme almost while I was like you, I'm gonna all over the place with its time, and I think this kind of the deal with motivational speaking is it takes many many forms from an inspirational person who has a great life story to someone who is just like am I can hold a pep rally as good as the next guy I'll charge, somebody three grand to listen to that
Hey that here's, a financial seminar where you can get rich very just give us a bunch of money first, yeah. So it's really all over the map, because it's I mean that it should be regulated, but is just such a it's gonna like the wild west as far right what you can be as a motivational speaker, yeah and I think also one of the reasons why it's tough arrested too Boil down are feelings about it, one way or the other or why we have multiple feelings, because inherently there's nothing in and of itself wrong, with making an effort to motivate other people to be a better version of themselves right yeah. But that can be that that neutral thing or maybe even positive thing can be exploited depending on the context. It's used it right. There there's a really good example of that. There's a book called who move my cheese, and it's like
the pages big print lots of illustration serves a quick greed and I love the title, but the whole thing is there: some there's a maze and there used to be cheese in this one place in these two humans. Hammond ha are just all up in arms. That the that their cheeses there anymore, why? What oh, what a tragedy who could possibly done this and then these two mice camera with MRS them here the mice. I can't remember the what the mice here, the mice, the tray the mice whose names are, but they see that she's gone, they run off to find cheese elsewhere right so that the mice, Heroes of the software, the humans are dumb and its because the humor allowing themselves to become victims and there's like some certain themes in there. That's true like yes, it is not necessary good idea to focus on. You know why this issue came about. Solve the problem and move on. But who move my cheese
very commonly a book. That's purchased by employers, They are going through a downsizing and their safety. Employers are their employees like hey any day, give us a smile, don't asking why your job was downsize. Just read this book him and try to be happy here. This thing they could be good, is being exploited and in a very negative manner. Here too, to exonerate people can decisions that are negatively impact in people's eyes. There's a there's! That's there! It is in a nutshell, there's the the good and the bad yeah. I will say this alike of fictional motivational speakers much more whether it was met folly, which is mentioned in this article Gloria Great Chris Farley character. He gets three paragraphs yeah, those that was overdoing it a bit, but definitely one of the more classic S character
my other favorite is from Magnolia Frank, Dj Mackey. The time that was one of Tom Cruise is best characters yeah. I think so ironic that he played the character and yeah lies. I always get the impression that it was like come who who directed. I was appalled, Thomas engineer there. In a way, Casting crews was toying with them a little bit or Paul. Thomson. Some wanted him to face in himself, maybe or maybe he than the script, unlike literally everyday onset after he finished crews, would look round say you could find me here
if not on his terrific you're, the best time. You know make fun of me right anyway, that that character was specifically about picking up women in bars and having sex with them so near by those sort of a different type of thing. But it was motivational. It was so we mentioned different kinds of people who do this. There are but like Matt Long who is a motivational speaker because he had a twenty ton bus hit him while he was on a bicycle was in the hospital for five months, said about forty operations and then five We overcame that to run them.
City marathon, so people like that, you will often see that have an amazing hardship like I said that they have overcome and maybe did like a small speaking engagement and said you know people really connected to this, and I think I really helped folks. So can I sign up with a company? That's gonna, but gigs for me right and I can make some real. Though I knew you really can I mean like this. There are people out there who support themselves just for motivational speaking, I think, there's probably far more, who aspire to that site, but it is entirely possible to become a motivational speaker with representation and that's how you make your living yeah, and you know I don't think I've ever talked about this on the show but stuff you should know we. Actually we actually dont do motivational gig
we ve done some corporate speaking on occasion. We have specifically told the people who were agents are booking it, that we are not motivational. Speakers Koran ever to books as such and that we are not experts, but we're glad come time. Your company, by the way, by that I mean he just you just let the cat out of the bag changed our lives for the better Chuck by a long story short. We have because of this we have. Taught spoken with a number of agencies and representatives who act as the liaison between accompany or corporation or a group and speaker- and so we ve gotta, get a little bit of an inside view kind of what this public, professional public speaking is all about. Right and one of the things that maybe we can do our thing and we're not the best were not the best for people to sell because we're not like we can do this and whereby basis
get up on stage enriches rally. People were now. Are we gonna? Do one thing? So if you want us to do that, we can do it. So it's sort of a narrower field, but its niche. It is very nice, but if you do want to, if you you have a neck and this one woman in here, who is the one that said that she was always the cheerleader in her group, Nancy Vessel was at best her. Yes, yes, she was like a kind of always was just this person in life and my friends. Motivate my friends in my family and stuff. So if you have that kind of vivacious personality and you can get up on stage in front of people- and you have a good story to tell its sincere, then the Mai something that you should look into right. That's another reason why, like Nancy best she's the only one in this article who admits that yeah anybody can do it it just it's it's a certain type of skill set, but not something you would have to be built
with, like anybody right figure. It out well and I think a lot of professional motivational speakers appropriate. None of this is not for you will yet Matt long. The elite athlete says like no, no everybody could do it. He said Ba. He said. Well, if it were easy, everyone would be doing it. So no there was a yesterday. Can anybody do it? I think it what we like eyes, I would say my sense of humour, especially stuff, you should know Goes- is pretty self deprecating church. But I say this totally honestly that if we can do it more proof that anybody do this area. We didn't have any experience getting on state in front of people now erratic. We learned it again or not up they're, doing motivational speaking, but we're up they're doing public speaking in front of groups who don't know us now, that's the key now and the next level
course is whether you can arouse positive emotions in the people out there Lena listening to you and that their, I think, takes a decent amount of practice. But there are techniques in their arms, since that you can figure out in all you have to do, is a little bit of research. Are you would have to to research really is. If you look up like how to be a motivational speaker that is going to be you hardy. But if you look up sensible things like, how do you motivate people How do you give it dynamite presentation all of these things? It's all the same stuff, it's just the thing that makes motivational speaking dip. Is the through line is inspiration. You have an inspirational story, you're you're telling people that they can. They can have a better life themselves.
Bet it's in there in the that's, that's really the big difference between motivational speaking and any other type of public. Speaking yeah. I wonder if that guy who said that wonderful his thing he goes, you know you'd come over any adversity except public speaking. I dont know try that, rather than anything else, you could probably do the the competitions let's take a break here- is a good start, kick it and we will motivate you to come back and listen more ready for this. New year's resolutions are very, very difficult to keep
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we'll go to the post office, again and psychology. Wise people have been. Psychology had been studying motivation for for many many years, what motivates people and there's a dude name? Abraham, Harold Maslow, and then the nineteen forties. He came up with something a little a little pyramid called Maslovs Hierarchy of needs, which is fairly interesting. If you look at it, it is
It's a pyramid were down at the bottom. A thing has been revised over the years. No, that's the food pyramid, your thinking now this has been revised. The little bit fell at the bottom. There are one two three four five levels and at the bottom you have physiological needs like food and water, shelter, shelter, warmth right above that you have said
They need security and safety in life, above that you have belongings and love which our friends and intimates esteem goes above that prestige feeling of accomplishment and then finally, at the very top of the pyramid, people should stop using pyramids possesses, got back. They now achieving once full potential ourself, actual innovation, cracked, and so the idea is that you divided these needs up into groups where, once you have fulfilled these basic needs, you will become stronger and you all basically satisfy those lower called lower level deficit needs, and then you can progress on these higher needs, until you reach that final level self actual alsatian right are you I mean you can take it. You and people have with masses hierarchy likely for sure. If the literal reading, I would say that homeless people couldn't are incapable of having friendships
hearing about one another, yet as their lacking in a lower need, which is shelter and housing, but the overall it does to be pretty widely widely regarded, well regarded yeah, I'm most like it, doesn't take into account social factors, its atlas, but this wait sounds like something developed and nineteen forties right and it is pretty it's pretty alimentary it in it. Does it's not very complex, but it has formed the basis of a lot of psychology pressure it like it is pretty
these standard for motivational theory from what I understand deaf and dumb. It definitely forms a lot of the basis for motivational speaking in a motivational speaking industry and in the the crux of white motivational speakers base their motivation on right. So, like you said he had this matchless theory, but regarded well or not. It's been around for a long time and is the basis for how to motivate people and people speakers you this in our own way, they have their own. Take on how
wanna use it or whether they use it and investors case she actually went to school. She she went to graduate school and studied conflict resolution and emotional intelligence, which I think gives her leg up as far as being schools, at least and things as she talks about how empathy is very important and cheese studied on it. You know right, which is more than you can say, for a lot of did you. You interviewed tony robins at one point for us for a ride I did remember that yeah, you know he's seven years ago I was part of honour their like four five other p on the phone. It was a conference in our view that we are, but I mean, let's be honest, we were made to do this. Yes,
on the evening it was there is something else going. I think a birthday party. I do step away from her, but it was right before his tv show a breakthrough with Tony Robins out. Do you remember that show I do a very short lived like it was yet extremely short lived by it? Was they were selling like super bowl sized we're Superbowl price commercials? For that thing here, like that's, how much does the ads spots were gone? Foreigners who was a huge vein it flat very quickly, which I think surprised everybody has twenty robins is his huge man, his enormous yes, one understands e four million people he reaches from a hundred countries has a network about hundred and eighty million dollars to his books and speeches and services can he's been
for a very long time, a lot of people think that he started the the motivation of speaking three deafening did not arrive at a pretty interesting article that suggested that Ralph Waldo Emerson, was America's first motor oil. No speaker really could make sense. I've seen it go back. Even further than that there the lady. They marry Baker Eddie, who ended up founding the christian science. I guess chert yeah offered her he got together with a guy named Phineas Parkers, Queen Bee David. I thought amid century name. I don't know what it's right here or anew the hipster Brooklyn, kids name, we, yes, it is now, and there is a they. They came together and created, what's known as the new thought movement, which is basically said that, if you think positively,
Good things will happen, which now this year, that your widespread thought in its form, such their forms, is much the bases of motivational speaking. Is Muslims hierarchy the idea if you think positively, you're going to have in actual fact, I'm fate undressed, on the universe on on Europe, your own future right, but that make zero sense whatsoever logically, and it finds its its roots back in this. These to these two people coming together so then, actually probably was the basis of a motivational speaking in and it continued on here there. There is some luminaries that pop up between the new thought movement and Tony Robins yeah. You ve got like
Oh Carnegie, who wrote? How do I make friends and influence people, one of the greatest selling self help books of all time, really introduce the concept of self help to the masses they'll Carney? He did is an interesting dude, and then you ve got guys like Napoleon Hill who wrote think and grow rich. I believe I have legs of them on the Simpsons, like a fake self help it really was in. There is actually check a really good article. I guess MOTO called the untold story of Napoleon Hell. The greatest self help. Scammer of all time, law in. You know how you like those long form the swans long is it gets right away? they like many book so then may twenty. Since we got people popping up and then men He ate the young man named Anthony Robins created infomercial for his personal power programme, the moment Infomercial adieu
I looked in the little bit because I realized. I can't even though his deal like what was I know it was the p w I wonder what his story was here like ok, take that myself and from what I could find and I didn't do a deep dive, but from what I could find. He worked for a motivational speaker and it was just like hey. I can do this, yeah. That's the deal! Yes, ok from what I understand and in he was absolutely right. He did a heat, he is he's a industry under himself re, Robins overture that personal power commercial, by the way in the first three years that it was out. A hundred million people saw in America alone, so he became like a jug, and I became a popcorn thing member. He was in shallow. How? Oh yeah he's actually them again and for the whole movie meeting tony robins in an elevator is what sets take the whole plotter the movie off in
I'm a governess, I dont remember seeing that movie. To be honest, I know the movie branding aside, but no as far as film industry parlance, Gaza Mcgovern is the thing that helps the plot. One right, yeah Mcgovern is something in there. View a device for something that triggers the plots ethic. In that case, you are correct. Ok, I'm using a trifling by goodness. Yes, so Toby, he told you so by the time he came out with his show breakthrough into doesn't ten everybody just assumed it would be huge. And it was not for some reason. I still don't understand why. But if you watch that first episode is based
him going around and motivating people who have like enormous challenges up against them, and the first step has heard silver. This girl is colonel, like on my girl can believe that it is they. He went and met up with a guy who was quadruped. Who was quadrant quadriplegic, I believe, and he had become quadriplegic after jumping head first a swimming pool. I think at his wedding reception and bare and became paralyzed- and I owe you know obviously quite depressed as a result and was had lost. His job in his life had really just take. Huge turned downward and Tony Robins showed up to help the guy and he wanted to than by inspiring them and the way they
fired him was to take him up in an airplane and push him out its right to memory pushed to me a cloud replete, a man out of an airplane and Women Harris Shoe died so like skydive or something like that it was wanted these things anyone's ever done on tv and I'm, including up to present day here so so breakthrough, told you I was flat, but there was We just like a blip on that deeds. Radar did nothing to his personal brand as far as dragging down now, and I had one I like so I can bashing the guy is you know he helped a lot of people that, by into it in appearance, is very philanthropic anyways, so that's good right sure, of course, He also is a fire walker. This is something I did not know,
in his unleash the power within program that he does live. He gets thousands of people to walk across hot coals, he's gonna, Oprah, Winfrey the walk across hot coals, and you know far lock. Is it's a real thing? If you look at it scientifically, what's going on is is calls are not a very good conductor of heat, so it takes about a second to actually feel that heat, and if you walk a good clip, it's about a half. A second sorted doing is not really an. I don't think he saying there danger, you're, overcoming I think in his case, it's your overcoming a fear and taking part in a group activity and that's where the benefit is as like staring at those calls in doing it. I don't think he sand,
Look it's magic because of me, and I don't know, I think, that's what he's the premise of his fire walking thing and at these conferences is to show people that they can overcome even physical problem. Like hot calls on their feet by using their mine out idling. We're like that. I'm here, ok, now think in reality that is going on, but I believe from what I understand that its being presented that you can say something like yes or cool loss in your using your mind to overcome the delays. Of the hot posed by the hot calls on your feet. Ok, enough at all, can I went wrong in Dallas, though, and when he sixteen an event. There were thirty to forty
People were evaluated. I think five people were taken to the hospital with burn injuries and his spokesperson, Jennifer Connally, said you know what only five people out of seven thousand requested examination beyond what we had on site examined people- and you know everyone had a great time- basically, I have to say, statistically speaking, she makes an excellent point. Walter and there's. Actually somebody in this article, What's her name, why, on that Irene, Wiseman yeah, who really kind of put it well, she seems to be somebody who goes to these things to go said. She goes. She doesn't Ngos the Robins conferences, but she also seem state.
Understand, what's going on at them, rather than like, maybe buying a new, lock stock and barrel write em from what I've seen someone like her someone who approaches a motivational speaking conference with her own set of judgments in values about it and is able to take that message and adjusted so that it works for her rather than trying to take everything from the person wholesale and putting it on to you, so that your basically magically chow changed. Those people have the greatest six greatest chance of succeeding at whatever their being motivated to do yeah but see she basically she puts the fire walked like that, you saying like the real magic is that there were ten thousand five hundred per, waiting their turn to walk over these culture, and everyone was exuberant in calm in happy now He was irritated or you know like hurry.
Or anything like that. It was in a neat communal feeling Waiting in line to go. Do the fire the firewall continue. She did the fireworks. She said it was cool or whatever but it was more about the comrade or in the community, the developed in law, waiting for the firewall clear her it's a pepper Ellie. You definitely is- and I think if you asked Tony Robbins Maybe he'll come on the show in and talk to us about it some time. Ok, if you ass soon ass, I was, I would guess they. He would concede that yes, you could interpret his comrades is appropriately whether he can see nothing. I don't
you know, I want to say something chuck. I hold these sceptic community to account for not giving more ink to motivational the motivation of speaking industry. Yeah didn't see light now, specifically looked at from sceptic sites. Yeah me too, and it's almost not there, so that this has two things: one that sceptics either think that it is, right, that's one or they think it so ridiculous. It is even worth writing about which I don't think that's the case, because sceptics right about some pretty ridiculous stuff. While I looked at this an article on if you saw it from the guy who walked out of its conference, Bertone Robins conference. Did you see that one? No? I didn't This guy was by all accounts from what he said, someone who should be into it he's like I wasn't there to bust him, a modest sceptic he's like I've. Have read some was books, I'm a fan like I'm into it.
And he walked out and he'd just had a very like a budget. A very levelled July on the presentation not like this guy's this in this he was just like. You know what he repeated himself too much any name drop too much and he carried the head. Some bad segue ways that, when non Sequiturs- and he just looked at it, sorted from a critical eye of a public speaker, who's gonna like this he's an he's kind of funding in these days. So I was always tony Robins himself that he walked out on yeah he's a second mean our left. He said I just found out. I was really get anything out of it and he didn't go there too to cope with a guy like that. He was a fan, so he just garlicky. You know he did the caprice and then in started. Doing a better presentation was his take catcher
the caprice, Tony rivers were prepared, he sure does. Does he really like the ones with the draw strings at the bottom in the cargo pockets? No, does he really? I do not see that I always take a break him. Let Josh ponder that they will come back and finish up this stuff ready for this. Let me tell you about people who love talking and always wanted to play in the end, a chill PETE flayed, since he was three and big mom to let him stay on the ice, lay some nights. He even slept in his happy skates peace practiced in practice to one day when he was forty, seven PETE realized IE. Just wasn't that good. So.
Through escaped in the trash, but then he heard how Geico proud partner of the jail could save him money on car insurance, so he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. And Our aid to Tony Robinson, any person other that's made a ton of money. Doing this don't pick on him. No, we should say a ton of money. His six day conference, I think, is called day with destiny. This year last year. So the Irene Wiseman said there were ten thousand five hundred people there. The tickets were about. Four thousand dollars he's that's forty, two million dollars they growth for sixty conference. He should call that come from conference credit cards on fire
yeah. I read an article. I think in Forbes about the chinese motivational speaking industry, and there is one person is thy. Crews can assign a further four my other classes and down like some people, came to the front in a ring of people with like a wireless credit card machines formed around like yeah yeah, one of us neither of us Where is everybody so turnarounds? Is the only person he's done this over. There are many many people think I mean did you say there was something like two five hundred registered motorways speakers and here s a little bit like six somethin. Nor was it now but famously men in Jack, Canfield wrote a book called Chicken super the soul in This is an amazing record. He holds against record for having seven books on the New York Times best seller list. At the same time,
That's unbelievable! Did you know they wrote one for chickens soup for the prisoners, soul. They wrote one for people in prison. I didn't another and also the generation creature is trying to bring taken super the soul to Netflix the courage as what a document for years. I have no idea, that's that's all I saw Hersey starring as chicken soup he stirring is neutral. I put a lot of fun. Coach, but he seems like a pretty sincere guy. You know I don't know, I don't I guess I've learned just try to shy away from food. From from like saying about people on here, well. I don't know, I don't know him he's a celebrity. That's all I know about him. You know like
if I did know more about a mite, that's not the whole picture, so I have no idea what he's like as it person just based on knowing people, he probably likeliest that he is a good person waned. Higher another famous under no longer with us wrote a book called. Your erroneous zones and a lot of these people seems like started out as book writers. That's the best way that used to be the best way to get started. Now. I think the best way to get started is due to start speaking. Then right, your books based on your successes there you want to do that almost simultaneously to because one of the things you do if you're in motivational speakers mentioned by the way
even more insight that are going to help you out of my books are available for sale right outside yeah. That's when it reeks of Scientology. To me it's like it, you can unlock more discoveries by buying more thing, but all in all of them do that, like you're, a fool, if even a motivational speaker who doesn't have a book for sale at your conference, you like your doing wrong as far as the industry would be concerned, I think that in and of itself does not necessarily mean that you in the industry that are hucksters because all their their due plenty of em in the industry that are hucksters because all their their due is selling their book or their class or there's something there there motivational speech is actually just a sales pitch right. That's the hawks! then there's plenty of em in the industry. Yes, we talk about get motivated. Yes, we should. This is a seminar series that was
started in two thousand to buy gunning Peter low and the article I read he is described as the son of a missionary, who, along with his Ex wife camera. It was a self help book author who writes christian RAP, started something that a series called get motivated. That is filling up stadiums, that at one point and no longer, but at one point was in business with tv, a merry trade yeah, I think they started with a legitimate motivational speaker conference and then over time said no. What we could get somebody in here too, to underwrite alot of this and am taken, does give the they can basically put ads in amongst the motivational speakers. Yes, they partnered up with tv. A mere trade with this product He had had called invest tools
then there no longer envisaged together, but get motivated thought there. I'm not sure partnering with anyone or not. Now they have a new owner call wealth rock that has their own investing classes, thou now cell exclusively. Her, I think, are the only things that are sold at the get motivated conferences. Okay, so here's a long and short of that. What they do is they charge very little money, so I'll get the bay thousands of dollars like a tony Robins live event, but you pay like five bucks or something and say hey. I can go here, Colin Powell speak more Terry Bradshaw or who else it ever more, a Bush or Giuliani, and who wouldn't go here- speeches by them for five bucks? yeah besides me, and then you go in here.
I guess you hold on power. You ought to provide bucks. I guess he Colin Powell for five bucks. If he spoke in my living room here, has that figure Let's make it happen, America that arrive on an old joke, my daddy's to say, which is when he wanted to denigrate performer you'd say I wouldn't go see them if they were playing in my back yard at further before that, such a seventies dead thing out totally so anyway, you would go You would listen to these motivational speeches and then what's going on, as is their financial, their selling a financial product. Basically, right again, it's it's like. Got actual, like Colin Powell, not like by the way, if I mention how great tedium Eritreans investment tools are, they held me out a lot, he just paid a lot of money to speak exactly any. Being like a real motivational, speak, try and then
after column. Pal. You have some guy come up and say: hey who wants a corvette? They flashed a picture corvette everybody raise their hands like you, can ever will Corver too, with invest tools or whatever right. So the criticism of this is that these people are super pumped in ready to just two anything because their feeling really good. Thanks to Colin Powell speech, and now they're. Getting this. The sales pitch is being waged Between these motivational speakers, so of course, they're signing up for this, and in May without really fully understanding. What's going on the on the sighed the tv, a mere trade people say. How are you gonna do a hard sell with you know to twenty thousand people in a stadium. You can't live like that's just that's that's ridiculous. To say that these people had a hard sales pitch levelled against on the
point is that people who went went thinking they were going to a motivational speaking event a conference year, and it turns out the whole thing was just a tedious, fair trade. To get them to give them their money for these investment, that may or may not help them actually make money from What year in two thousand nine investor rules, agreed to pay three million dollars to settle allegations from, as he see that it let instructors mislead students, anything that can make extraordinary profit and to claim they were expert option traders when their income was really coming from selling the coarsest yeah. Apparently one of the instructors said like the returns were guaranteed yeah. You can't you cannot do that in a fairly also, not supposed to say what percentage rate and you can offer in lay. They apparently said seventeen percent, which is just ridiculous, and these are option, that we're talking about these are not like stock trades, where
You can do little research and forgot stock trades and you're, not necessarily coming of sharks. These were options. Options are extremely complex and difficult and they cost more to trade and stock trade, and you're much more absolute money, because you don't understand what you're doing there's a lot more fun. Is involved in whether you make money off of investing in options or not so those like they're going to people who are paying to see you know Colin Powell more Bush speak because they admire him and then they're they're getting sold these supposedly classes on investing in very sophisticated financial tools. Yes, it's just that you shouldn't do that you neither lineup is now I went to get motivated website. Unlike did you say that they have
there you have their own product now here by wealth rock is the owner, I believe, spilled or a W gay There are currently a bright now for this next door. Is Kevin O Leary, MR wonderful from short tank one of the duck dynasty dude. I then he knows name Larry. King really a woman name mandate Mean House who believe I looked into her briefly. She's started breweries and wineries in Canada in Kashmir. The money and then finally running out Edward Snowden. Does give that's it quite I m sure, Edward Snowden, I want to be in the green room with Edward Snowden in the duck dynasty guy, who are you,
you're, joking of Edward Snowden, noted that's for real. No, yes! No! It's that! Yes, it is what an under his thing it says what does it say that he knows his entrepreneurs below one instead ducked honesty, star blow him, it says: whistleblower no Snowden, is doing this conference. Yes, while I'm gone, I gotta hear this year while strange times it is strange times, How to say I like what wealth rock is due in these days. Two thousand five, those investigative journalist, name, Steve Salerno, who wrote a book called sham, which stands for self help and actual liberation movement called Sham Colin. How the self Help movement made America helpless.
And he can appeal back. He didn't homely punches in can appeal back the the thin layer on industry and dumb basically said: there's no science behind this. These techniques, there's no evidence that this stuff is effective at all, could be just coincidence, or people may not be maybe or not, by this industry. It all right- and he was saying light- is the law of averages says that if enough people try it? Sir, We are going to be helped may even be helped just by other things by things. Other whatever the motivational speaker is trying to do, but it'll be achieved into the motivational speaker and if you get people who are willing to give testimonials? The latest helps feed the beast. Basically right, and, if you're not helped than the
the common line is all you do. Is you not by now like to hear this is where it gets insidious to me here? It's where the it is built in self defense, I guess deflection MAC. Yes M for four motivation: the motivational speaking industry, which is yea urine. And if a believer, you don't have enough passion, you're, not trying hard enough like year, the problem, failing you're the loser. You are committed to losing that's another one, two and that's despicable to me. If you, if you are defined, blame from yourself in your own, shoddy product. That's not actually helping people Somebody who is really looking for Help India, because they dont think that they have the real strengthen in themselves to to overcome the adversity they face, damn holding back man. Yet
The point is that a great article, three reasons why mode most motivational speakers are dead wrong, and I was one of the things that that this author, but did you have his name? He is Hoffman. His name is Bobby Hoffman We don t. Yet I was gonna things he brought up and is that its Andy Bankable, basically because they can always just put it back on the person. Do that? Where can I get it all now? So I mean I guess: In a nutshell, the, and apparently in a nutshell, is they'll Carnegie thing, in another. The motivation of speaking industry can be good and can be best depending yet and that we spend a lot of time. Respect now slamming at all, but, like I said good for you. If you do have a legitimate, sincere hardship, overcoming a hardship life story to tell that helps. People out
you make about doing it than I think. That's awesome. Yet again, if you're somebody who is looking to be motivated by a motivational speaker, if what somebody saying makes a lot of sense to you, feels right, you feel good listening to them, reading their books hearing what they have to say, more power to you? I don't like that at all now, just tread lightly in go go into it with her with an intelligent, I figure and one scene when get dupe. You know no hooking observed
service for the weak Dennis. If you want to learn more about motivational speaking, take those words in the search bar has the words that comes incisive s. Temper listener mail to call this ghost fishing follow up from Anthony and Charlotte North Carolina, hey guys just finish ghost fishing and gladly covered this really important topic. When environmental scientist cities vision, water, North Carolina and have worked in this field all over the country, while the commercial fishing industry is extremely detrimental to marine life, recreational fishing cause a lot of fish to die. Or because of littering from it and something I really thought about, as he seldom fishermen are, many fishermen and women were a little excessive debts of line. Time is not on the ground in the water, whether fishing, this modified
It goes in the waterways and if you look into the gut many fish turtles, birds and other life associated with water and was always find this fishing line hooks stuck in the various biota or the Biota stuck in the gear. I would highly recommend fishermen and women was to say Fisher people, yet Fisher King sacrificial kings to make sure they put this extra line in their path.
To dispose of later or using environmentally friendly Nile online if they can find it. This monovalent outlines does not break down over time like the nylon does just wanted to share this with you. All many people are unaware of the harm they can do without meaning to these little bits of wine, and I hope it can help people more aware, while they are fishing good, yeah, thanks Anthony from Charlotte, never really thought about that. My own self and that's wrong, yeah good, going Anthony, much appreciate it. If you want again touch of us like Anthony, didn't give us a heads up on something. We love those. You can try to us it s. Why escape podcast or Josh on Clark? You can join some face get Facebook, dot, com, slash stuff, you should know or slash Charles they reach a bright. You can send an email with stuff, I guess the house, the first. I can't as always join us at home on the web stuff. You should know dot com
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