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stop. You should know from house to for external aid and look into the buggy than George Bernard Shaw. Thirty took bright and there's no, no one of my alters. You have also do you know I think we'd each seen a bit of an altar and each other, but that's the skull. I speak. Their renown and bad movement at the other two little different yet is. On a forum about a forum for people with this if I did it is harder and like that from what I was reading, you sometimes you feel crowded. Some people have, I felt like they have had alters like their whole life as long as they ve been around interesting. Sometimes they don't like. I one of the issues I saw was like

does your alter have to have a name and others like. I don't write necessarily think of homeless people in another person responded and so that this often like an early stage of the process and then over time as they become more pronounced, they end up adopting names or it is. Promoting or some other bad behaviour. That you say is this associative identity disorder and you give it a name or you don't you therapists does yet were you good idea, so its controversial and we'll get to that. But I guess we should start off by saying that another name for this about more popular name, even notes, then, since nineteen eighty four, the idea, the original name was well, personality disorder, some accelerate personality. Here when I was reading this at first, I like some awful out like a split personality ago. It is

they just renamed Mossy pretty soon. Why out? It's kind of a good move, because from where I can tell it seems to be a real hang their underwear, no period of tents, exploitation and abuse, yeah so much so that now there's a lot of people who doubt that it's a real thing right, but that there are still people out there who do suffer from it. And after that psychiatry has said, we need to change the name and then just focus on these people there, We have this now. Did they change it because it had a stigma really? That was the only reason, while the others is excellent call on I oh nine actually about, I think it's called like the myth of dissociative identity, disorder,

and the myth of multiple personality disorder. Thank you. They, when old, school yeah and the lady who wrote it, did a really good job of explaining the controversy around it and also like these. Renewal of it as while, like how it became renewed, but yet it was because it was basically I'm exploited and fiction, analyzed the area by the psychiatric community here a few level, people that will get all data yet so I mean everybody has heard of multiple personality disorder thanks to that that period of exploitation from the fifties, the eighties yeah so yeah probably a pretty good idea of the concept behind it of the disorder to begin with it in a single person has, their normal their original. What's called the host personality, yeah and sometimes

especially under periods of acute psychosocial stress may be confronted with stress or something I want to think about or talk about her whatever another one of their personalities will emerge. Yeah there generally tied to a trauma and early, if that you may not even know about until you have therapy that out are substantial sprite and that they believe that, for the social divide, any sort of when it does come about from the result of the trauma comes about as the coping mechanism to protect the mind, because the the host personality simply can't handle dealing with it. But there is some aspect of that person which is characterized through another personality that can't handle it, and so that personality will come out to handle those

It's where the private, the person is confronted with those memories yeah, and it can express itself in different ways, depending on how silly disorder is, but generally you ve ever seen United States of terror using up now but I've never seen another said Emily was way into words. About completely new people, but your behavior, your speech, you can be a different sex. You can have a different accent: different species yeah, you can pay like a dog there technically, I think that's all more where I would imagine here and there is no timetable that some it doesn't matter, unlike right after from, can come out years later, and adjusts theirs. Not an awareness necessarily or that's a big, well, there's an awareness of the

This person doesn't have an awareness of the altars coming out; sometimes they do sometimes, but the altars usually, aware of the other altars and the host right in that like it was in the United States, a terror, yet sometimes the the altars. I don't know if we specifically set are not yet but an altar is one of these non one of the other part personalities within the whole personality and there they're, usually at least two others there has to be to host. One other mothers to total right, but then I can go. People have reported up two hundred or beyond year, and they can happen at the same time. You yeah this that's an I thing is they can switch between them pretty quickly and these periods, where the altars emerge can take place over the course of days or weeks. Basically, if you, if you, if there's a period where the altars are really kind of coming out in full,

They changing that's a period of severe stress that that persons undergoing yeah, maybe calling back that previous I may be night just be triggered by stress right period and you said so that some sometimes times the altars are aware of each other has also been plenty of documented cases where the altars don't like each other. Yet sometimes they don't like the host or they don't have much respect for the host or like one of the other alters they don't like how they deal with the host or deal with life, or something like that which is common need, because that that's shows that these alters are aware that that the effects or the actions of other alter or the hosts affect them yelling at me. Somehow they understand that their part of the whole? Well, you, you can be the host person just the regular Josh is a non drinker and you can have

alcoholic alter, yeah, legs? The host is a square and, like I can't wait to get my hands on drink as Josh's. Like he's, you won't go near the stuff, but now that I'm Randy by that twelve back of Mister Browne, yeah, I'm very. I don't think I've ever had a super mister bell. A varied long night with it about fifteen years ago. But you might have undergone something that similar to dissociative disorder, we, they also when they rename dissociative disorder. Yet ninety ninety four, they also took over these components that used to make up multiple personality, disorder and split. Yeah, so NOS four associated disorders. There is dissociated identity disorder, which is the most extreme. That's the one with altars and yet personalities coming out. And then there is dissociative amnesia weight

member in our Amnesia Pike S Throat brought this one about yeah. That's where you just kind of forget. A certain experience yet like Had this terrible car crash, I don't even remember it. I knew his dissociative amnesia that that's that words, like you, don't remember the terrible thing that happened to you right, there's also a dissociative fugue there, which is where Basically, this leave your life. You walk away from your life, and maybe you seem like kind of out of it or whatever, maybe under the influence of a different personality. It's it's not just like like him, come home any longer. It's like you left your life in a different person ever leading for life, make your last days weeks months and check the fourth Wednesday personalization disorder right which is like you you're, watching your life as if it you viewing over your detached here, and I think that when I think these can

Together, because I know that, if you have the idea, you definitely have moments of experiencing that one yeah they they like, even if you're just the host, you might feel like you're just watching yourself yet being yourself so dissociative idea, disorder diagnosis is almost has split. Personality is fluid switches between the different issues, and the one thing that they all have in common is that they all appear to be coping mechanisms to protect the mind from trauma yeah there, basically like. I'm checking out of my life or I'm detaching myself for my life, I'm just not going to remember that part of my life right or I m I can't handle my life in this other personality. Can yeah, and it's not it's not always just those things that you know some of the side symptoms are can be. With a nation's wild thyme, deletes a substance, or eating disorders. Depression

anxiety and mood swings obviously ivy. And memory disturbances, either short or long term right, it's gonna wanna keep probably the end. You apparently a person suffering from dissociative identity. Sorted. This kind of, like you said foggy yeah, is a really good descriptive. If not life and their periods of this condition flaring up. I guess he had just their sense of place. I'm completely disrupted. Yet it sounds awful yeah. It is awful yet is I, like I said I haven't seen United States terror, but apparently it's a lotta comic affect out of here, of course, but if you have the social divide day, disorder you'd likely have a really hard struggle in life.

And it did show some of that too. I mean it's obviously for tv, so there is some comedy with some of the authors, but it also shows the told that it takes on the families of like that. So this has been around for a little while we ve understood it its symptoms, since at least there lay eight. Century. Yet in some early scientists and researchers did a pretty good job considered long ago. It was kneeling. It puts a pretty like extravagant yeah case. You have here a little doctors, especially in eighteen. Hundreds in seventeen hundreds were like very excited So demonic, possession and weird things like that back in the day allotted many these cases may have been things like these disorders. We just did, about back then so we D sit, someone was a historic or a witch night and they killed them. Like them. You know in some room here, but the first symptoms.

The idea came around a nineteen seventeen, ninety one with a large area. Yet again, Emma Everhart demand no compelling I think, he's Jimmy Ally and I would go silent GM that mowing worthy dispel it right. That's just to get yet while he was the first one to describe the commission here Who is a middle class german woman who had an altar? Who is a french aristocrat, so Hypnotizer brought out the french touristic the animal Magnetizer or Maria them. Here, then, we did an episode on hypnosis if you wanna go check that out yet through good one, but up until late eighteen hundreds about eighteen eighty. They generally thought that what the deal was was that humans had a background consciousness and

that was actually greater than our regular primary consciousness, and when that background consciousness got sick, then that's what brought out the gray right That's what mental illness came from pretty much basically is another way of putting the conscious and the subconscious. Because I mean, and still today, people believed the subconscious exists, and that is the one that really running the show. I really set still the belief that is greater far, as I know, certainly among Freudians, but yet mister. I do not think anyone really discredited. The idea of the subconscious who knows well, sir we're gonna find out here, they're about in time is that was going on. They started to tie it with childhood trauma, which is pretty smart and then a french patient name. Louie Vive! Neither these,

he's twenty two years old and he had this- is in the late eighteen hundred had sixth personalities. Doctors just went crazy over this guy yeah they didn't overlap with their memories. They thought that they were just not a variations at each other. They didn't understand, though, at the time that they were actually completely separate personalities. They thought it was his all parts of Louis which, if you, if you really follow the timeline of the idea like they were. We ve come back to that understanding of it yeah. I guess you're right. You know that it's not latest different personalities. It's just different aspects of a personality that can be given voice in a very little girl like different voice, in the letter away right. Yes, your point, after that. Actually, around the same time, Pierre Jeanette, another french researcher,

said now. These are different personalities and it comes from a trauma that they suffered right. So you can. It hid it early on yet he I guess he laid the groundwork for the understanding for the next century or so to come here and they know it wasn't until night. Five that somebody claim to cure a person with dissociative idea is order again back. They know it known as multiple personality disorder. Yet again, a Morton Prince Morty Prince, not Martin, France, Morton Prince. He basically said that using hypnosis he was able to coax out the very easily, coax out the altars. Yet is something very early on dissociative idea disorder. It hypnosis were basically my hand in hand and elitists believed that they could. If no sister very easily draw out the altars which they could get. Who am I talking to you now?

exactly or I want to talk to you. You know this personality and then start confronting those personalities and convincing them to integrate into the host person polity and then, once you had for successful integration, you had a real, united whole host person, who is just one personality, yet think think the key is that their using hypnosis, bright and hypnosis doesnt isn't real. So like we have a huge clue here, do a mystery of what exactly is going on, but before anybody really kind of, is there an confronted and starts to really truly treat dissociative idea, any disorder on its face yeah or at its root a treated it on its face. Psychiatry, took a real life

this went all in and double down on the most them. The sexiest craziest versions of gray come up with the idea, and it did this in the fifties and will tell you how ridiculous method problems its human nature to hate problems. But why is that, after all problems inspire us to men things? Then things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city traffic to ocean plastic, new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety. Smart loves problems, IBM, let's put smart to work with it. I began that comes ass, smart to learn more so jack. Psychiatry is about to say motives. Multiple personality disorder is exactly what it looks like some of these people

beyond loony. Yet this guy over here is a hundred personalities and seven. Are dogs, different dogs? Can you believe this bitter, and these these cases, start to grow by leaps and bounds in number and all can be traced back to a single book which is based on a single case. History, yet were a couple of books, you had better start, it was all about that's right. The three faces of Eve was about in nineteen fifty seven by two psychiatrists, and it was about a woman whose real name was Chris Costner size, who may or may not be related Kevin Costner. Neither I nor anybody on the internet appears to know for sure I really looked in Every other questions. I can't believe I didn't think the look than up yet Costner sure there's two of em Kevin anew Chris, so she Prescott's her Sizemore went by the names

give a white early, that's what they call her in the book of. Finally, I didn't look up see whether Nazis related to Tom Sizemore discovering causing yeah. That's it you're right, I'm anyway, you're a motive it's a white and she was referred because she had headaches amnesia and she worked with these two psychiatrist and couple of alters emerge. And they wrote a book while they supposedly cured her and reintegrated them back into one host person, but they wrote a book real quickly that exploded on the scene super popular the Montana Money there was a big blockbuster movie. It was just took over when I took over, but it made a huge splash in the just people's consciousness about what this is for the first time it was around. You know what you said:

kind of super sexy and interesting yeah and people are captivated by this new disease and this Eve woman, who was really three women and one right. There was a Peggy and I cant remember the other one by one was like a good girl the other one was like a bad girl or tough girl, and then the host was this kind of a combination of the two yeah she's alive. She still ass well ass. She said this doktor was thick pen, yeah, doktor, thick pen, who is treating her Corbett. Think PAN Am colleagues, I believe his name is any quickly seriously quickly and thick and so on. I think pen was the one who wrote the vague, really well

the defend with the book and then saw the ladys life rights without her approval to Hollywood yeah, and they made this story this movie and, like you said it was the twentieth century foxier there was in it was made a pretty big splash put the book and the movie and she came out and wrote a book called I'm Eve and said: do this guy's a total fraud like yes, I do have multiple personality right, but they didn't cure me no near like this guy kept insisting I was cured, work. He act. He shot me up a sodium pentothal, unlike you, use the power suggestion and his huckster. Basically, he was after the story, But here I am left with my conditions:

yeah she had reportedly suffered witnessed a bad accident in witness to deaths as a child, and that's where hers was born so that set the stage for popular consciousness. To panic, come to understand multiple personality disorder Again as what it was called the time- and I mean it was all over the place like people just or just aware of it, whereas they hadn't been before, and it was kind of like a one to punch. You had all about Eve in the fifties and then about ten years later you had civil Civil is the one that blue this thing wide open sally field. It just happened, I guess to arrive at a time when America, was really ready to undergo or be party to psychological exploitation like big time

yeah and in eighteen. Seventy three, as when civil the book came out written by oh, Let's see flora, reader Schreiber about her treatment with US I just Cornelia Wilbur and about the treatment The real name was surely Mason and they kept secret for many years civil yet to protect her her identity, but events the name came out right was she died in the nineties yesterday? Ninety eight a breast cancer, but she had sixteen personalities and like, I said, Sally, feel player in the movie? It was a big hit amber my mom reading the book. It was all the rage in the seventies, those few huge, and arm is actually an artist, a painter and like taught banning through, I think, but they found a hundred three paintings in a basement after she died and she only signed the ones that she felt like she, the hosted painted

design the ones that an altar had painted our too many of our unsigned. But it's when you look at it is really like they're all different like some are like real is summer, abstract summer impression: that really all over the map- and it's just I don't know Canada Testament there like how real this can be. Is there a website that house? So I don't know, I think if you look just look up, you know hidden paintings of civil and probably by I'm, never be water s I'd be, while others felt that now as why be I'll yeah, I'm so symbols smash. It is based on the wall, the first way that was brought about by all about Eve and the public is just fully aware. Multiple personality disorders like these too, are like the cream of the crop. There are tons of made for tv movies and Donoghue. Besides, in all sorts of distant chatter, about multiple personality disorder.

And all of a sudden the cases go from about two hundred in the medical literature. The suddenly eight thousand after the movie civil comes out there and it seems like every psychiatrist, has a patient with multiple personality disorder and because of all, sensationalism that went along with it. There are, fortunately, a car driver of serious psychiatrist and psychologists, who said wait a minute. What like white, what what's goin on here, like movies, are exposed to trigger outbreaks of disorders right some people explain, way by saying well, there are these people may have dinner. They rang like they're here. Didn't have a name to associate with her them gave him the name, so they could go the doktor and speak to be treated, and that is one explanation here. The problem is the

The explanation that this was a real phenomenon and not like some sort of them. Our do they com, but I guess outbreak of mass hysteria a little bit near and this is in no way to diminish anybody suffering mentally. Here. Of course, I am talking about the specific moment in history, in the seventies, in the west, where there is an outbreak of multiple personality disorder cases, The idea that it was a real thing was definitely undermined by the civil case itself, which Irish contemporaneously some psychiatry said. This isn't a peer reviewed case. History, We think this is basically I'll just made up well, the lid was blown off specifically by a single doctor and symbols case here. Doktor Herbert Spiegel, apparently tree. The civil war was generally but will color civil yeah, while the

Wilbur was out of town and he was like you know at this doesn't add up. He said he's. Not here, he said it seems like she's, really highly suggestible it seems, like you gave her sodium Pentothal and she's addicted to that. It seems like you might have not necessarily on purpose coached her into saying these things well, there were some at least one instance where that fill in doctor, who is treating civil civil said that they were in a session and civil said which, which precisely what may be there, the bridges something you say when you can't control your alters now and then. Secondly, there was in the case notes. There is a reference to a note or a statement by civil to her doktor Doktor Wilbur. They said. I do not even have a double I'm all of them

been lying in my pretence of them, and Doktor Wilbur noted that she wrote this up to avoidance, behavior behaviour That's I've was trying to avoid having to confront reintegrating her her personalities in that's why she was saying that she was lying soon. Kind of came out and was added up in Combined with this outbreak of multiple personality disorder case yeah lay seventies early eighties. It was it was pretty damning, but then, when it became obvious that satanic ritual abuse there there moral panic that happened. I was following right on the heels of this. I think the scientific community stepped back and said: ok, America's It's crazy well enough in the mental health problem kind away latest, just crazy.

I think it I think a lot of that came about because the started become legal defence and people started explaining and very bad behaviors on altars and claiming incur like it. Wasn't me killed my wife, it was stony man sounds like returned. The lifetime movie network through dinner. This lifetime movie network, is all over these stories. Yeah a better there's, quite a few of those movies at their right. So all this going on. It becomes very apparent that this is a real thing and fortunately, for the people who actually do suffer from this disorder. Psychiatry said: let's get rid of the multiple banality, disorder, moniker and we're gonna rename it dissociative idea disorder we're going plainly remove it from what just happened, because that was pitiful. Yeah

and we're gonna get down the basics. We're gonna go back to the way of addressing this. A viewing this that the doktor, who described dough Louis V day came up with all the way second, one thousand eighty eight, that it's just variations of the whole personality, not truly separate personalities and If we treat the underlying cause, all or even just the co symptoms, yeah drug addiction, alcoholism, depression, the holy nations. The mood swings anxiety retreat. All this most likely. The debate an idea disorders also going to be treated in kind. Yeah. Nothing, it lends itself to that too. Were doktor started being sued, in the nineties by p. Same wait a minute. You ve got me on these drugs Europe hypnotizing ear, saying calling coercing means calling out these alters,

Then I'm gonna tell you yeah, I'm glad you said that, because it is worth revisiting. I don't think we really laid this at the feet of psychiatrists enough. There were people who saw this movie who work filling this way who may be felt like they. They have more than one personality here and went to Everyone feels that way a little bit sometimes right now. But if you are highly suggestible person here- and you see this movie in you thinking like wild, maybe that's what I had in Europe. They ingenuous sodium pentothal right. You go to a medical professional that medical professional isn't supposed to be like yeah yeah. You have them in and this one's name TIM right here, is very aggressive personality here I can see him coming out now and then all of a sudden, the persons like TIM, like yes, that person's life has been altered, probably for the negative cause of a at the very least a dubious medical experts. And yes, of course,

They were soon they should have been sued. It was a really dark spot in the history of psychiatry. Has allowed a dark spots on its history. Frankly, you know this is it. This is one of em, but, like I said again, there were a group of psychiatrist who said No, this is there's something real here. We ve just been look and at the wrong way we allowed it to become sensationalize. We need to learn the lesson, but at the same time we need to identify the people who really are suffering from this and figure out how to help them and we'll figure we'll talk about how they they figured it out right after that hey everybody. I want to talk to you about your website that doesn't look good and this hard to program because airspace does it better yeah they do square space Is this amazing magical tool that you can just basically good people

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Ok, Jackson we're at ninety ninety four: they renamed multiple personality disorder and now it's some dissociative identity disorders. Let's talk about how its treated, how it manifests, what what it is so guess the of the modern understanding from what I can tell seems to be that the social divide, energy disorder is a person who has was talk about personality. What identity is ok, ok, what? If your identity is basically the a script that you ve, been equipped with. That's been developed and refined and new ones, but also very much brutalized and solidified over the years, so that when you are faced with any any anything in life you're, going to react in a prescribed, predictable way. That's your identity! Now,

if your identity is such that it doesnt handle. Stress very well. That's true, but you still confronted with stress here. But that does it, but handling stress isn't part of that script. That makes up your identity, while, in the case of a very very extreme case, it's possible that a person will subsume their normal reality and draw some aspect that is unpredictable. There isn't prescribed, but still part of themselves and put that front and centre deal with that stress and it might cut out the person like earth like high interest, whose confronting him with the stress it may be very protective that personality. But the point is it still part of a single person? It's just a different aspect showing when you take it to its extreme conclusion. What you're looking at then are two different personalities, personalities or multiple personalities. Right

that's apparently, whites dissociative idea disorder is so. Are you saying you don't believe that when someone comes out in a british acceptance, as my name is rob like that's not real, I don't think there were real is good word, because I think too, that person is real and it that reality right there right. You know I mean like if, if a person is using a different personality and it happens to be a british guy named Rob right, it's the reality right then. I dont think these people who have to social rights sort of our faking right. I don't think it's made up. I don't think they're necessarily playing along where I think that's what happened in the eighties. Everybody to visit

and a playing along right, but I think if you actually have the social divide, entity disorder like this is your experience. This is reality to you like. You, do feel detached from your life, but you do have missing time, like you do experience this. So, yes, it's real for you, it's more how the psychiatric community or the mental health community has to view dissociative identities order in order to treat it right, there it isn't that they aren't separate personalities, because you can basically that and about the saying you're possessed by a demon right. It's a whole other person in there with you- and this is not the case, and if you view it like that, you're not going to be able to treat right. Did you find anyone famous with it did. You hear some Walker now really here. You know that there is no famous former Georgia bulldog Running and in Herschel Walker he suffers from the idea and he wrote a book called breaking free and he

it has no memory of winning the Heisman trophy, oh no, he has no memory of putting a gun Why said something has happened in his life, no memory of any these things, and he said yes as many as twelve alters. And his his wife there still together of itself, but his wife many years, thanks like it I'll make sense. Now what like, when she. Finally, he came out of this each came out a few years ago. Well, she's like will this totally makes sense, because I saw very different people through the course of our marriage at an nowhere that made no sense and she's it was not a mood swing and I M here he's famous for not just being of a ballplayer like he was in the best way he went to FBI school. He was Olympic Bob's letter. Why he's he's done all these things? He was he's a mixed Marshall artists now, and he thinks that

alters, are If we why he has so many like varying interest in life, well, there's really fascinating Herschel. So what do you think about it? Which you click on decisions? That is why I am not sure I see the difference between like that's what it does. Will this is. Is someone believing something about themselves like? I guess I don't see the difference between some one thing They have these different personalities like a personality is in a tangible thing anyway, that he can't touch it. So if someone believes they have for different personalities than they may as well, different personalities, whether I can get you do what you say, and I guess it's all part of that person, but if it's dead Sworder. That means is causing a problem right exactly. I think the fact that when I see cases of what looks like real die

like Herschel Walker, no memory of of certain things like it's certainly more powerful than you know. That's bad check coming out. Kazanovitch will stress. Well, we'll call him tony you now, but if I blacked out in didn't, remember my actions, several days and those actions included Putting a gun to my wife said then that's a whole different thing does uncertainly moody. We all know that junk mail, no Tony, nice. I will, I guess, that's it about dissociative identity disorder. Fuel are more about it. Take those words in the search bar has therefore set common obray. At this article instances it serves part time for listener mail call this real world advice for Tony as Estonia. No, no, I the accident. Hey guys. I recently returned from two states from living in the Republic of Korea, mostly teaching

was there for the last four years current home to get a job differently. And now that I'm a home, I can't figure out what to do to get it tax. I've been actively interviewing with all sorts of companies organization that firms position, marketing sales, business development, finance consulting anyway, I find most of those rules to be too boring. I also feel pressure and burden, because I studied engineering at Columbia, university and feel burden to be successful, couldn't club I am very much stuck in a rut looking for a job, not cited by my prospects and asking? What do I want to do? And I really want. At the school because I can't afford to pay for a masters degree, sleep on that certain we're pretty certain that that advance agree will improve my situation. So I'm email and you guys his I'm an sir. I think we share similar perspective, something and you have great careers that are thrilling and a spiral, Judah,

So I'm like waiting, I wanna, be you guys are. I want your jobs, but I see both his people that are really interesting, salted the earth folk who can relate to my situation, a mortal my investment management, consulting lawyering, Med, school friends, so Tony De Frida's wants now what he should do. None of the tough have actually been thinking about the streets email for a couple days. Now, oh yeah, yeah! Ok, I mean like he's asking for help, sure so give it to me. Well. My first bit of advice would be too narrow down your scope. A little bit. He studied engineering and you're. Looking at marketing sales, business development, finance consulting, I think, you're casting you're nettle too wide MIA.

So. My first bit of advice is too narrow that down. My second bit of advice is too narrow down based on off until people like what? What? What do you love and what would you love to do, ideally, what they call blue sky territory here in the corporate world? It sounds like also to me you're asking a lot of people, but you spin and all the time like this, keeping it at the forty thousand foot level we used to sit for a little while with illegal, PAN Pan, unlike be quiet and gather your thoughts, And then brainstorm after that, I just even for like our twenty minutes, something like that. If it's for your future, they you're thinking about you, probably copper the half hour to dedicate yesterday. By just turn, everything off really focus inward and say: what do you want to do and then go for that enough feel obligated to your degree most people have go to college. Don't use that agreed that they got it's more like they went to college to show they can go through.

College, you know yet, and he didn't list engineer anywhere in what he was looking into, even though that's what it's degrees and yet here's the other thing too. There are very few career choices. Are life paths that go they go absolutely nowhere and you shouldn't be afraid to take steps that you that aren't necessarily scribe boy, go yeah and don't be worried about walking yourself info This is certainly an like right. Try something out that you love in it may bear fruit, and if it doesn't work, you can always go get like a guarantee job or something after they're in southern interests. You now isn't necessarily an interest you five years from now so yeah. I think your worrying too much Tony words only if this was a very sly way of trying to get the word out with your resume and you're out there in Europe,

Columbia, university grad in during degree his interest in sales and business development finance. Let us now an inch no see captain whatever so spend some time be quiet with your thoughts, train, decide what you love and if he could make a creative that, and if we hear anything I'll, let you know it sounds like you're for adventure cause. You lived in Korea, William for Garden, see we get a lot of inviting funny. Take some of them do with Tony. Let us know how I got pleased if you have made any kind of like choice or decision based on something Chuck and I had said we want to know how that way, you can tweak to us it s. Why escape? I guess you can join us on Facebook that complex that we should know Sanderson email, the stuff- I guess it is carried out- can check out check you to channel and hang out with those that are home on the web stuff. You shouldn't,

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