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Little meant that come in tens will once them. Gone, you can do some really. Meetings of the left over ten people have made mp3 player there's cameras. Even stoves check out house works, dot com slashed innovators to find out more I welcome the Pakistan Josh Clark Sid. Cross, removes the always likeable Charles deluge brain and I hope not to its true chuck. Everybody likes you hear the most animal fell. I know such little down today, so we're gonna talk by stealing stealing nuclear me have failed pretty well even wrote down back to the future in here somewhere, wouldn't think my friend. Yes, arguably the future. That was Thomas. If well, you know, I'm pretty well even wrote down back to the future in here somewhere. Wouldn't think. My friend, Arguably, though, is that was Thomas F, Wilson's, greatest role, who's, the guy who play Beth.

There are no. Actually. I was looking at a minor internet movie database that guy has been in a lot of stuff, really he's Biff. He was also an action. Jackson he's been deployed death, Yoda cameos death like Frank eyes in the blue pearl is right. If you run as I am sure you do. Since you wrote down back to the future a new notes. There is a kind of a sub plot going out with dark in his dealings with middle eastern terrorists. Our added remember that I thought this was a pike s on gigawatt. Yeah. So, ok! Well, then you do you remember that dog boy said he was. Telling some plutonium these terrorists writer. They wanna play Tony him from right and the reason of course, if they want to please honey, he kept it further Delorean by of course, but the reason they wanna plutonium is because ostensibly they were gone,

to manufacture a nuclear weapon right and that is not outside the realm of possibilities squarely enough. It's not shock those another movie do their best to the future. To now after nineteen eighty six was a movie called the Manhattan project, where a teenager steals enriched uranium to make a atomic bomb for the science project. I remember that John with go. Bad movie haven't seen it now. It wasn't bad if I remember correctly well, everyone on the, as you would say that was right in my wheel, houses, ten at the time and right thinking you making my own nuclear weapons right, well, reticent, sometimes war games which will get too in a minute or we will. Yes, I see in the agenda that you have organs are in doubt as this one is rife with the moving tv references to chuck. Let's talk about stealing a nuclear weapon, ok

Easy is well there's a coup. First of all, we should go in, say it's probably impossible to steal a nuclear warhead UK, I'm not gonna go along with that really yeah if he really really difficult It would not be difficult to say: you're, IRAN, ok, and it's ninety ninety one and you are in contact with a bunch of cable KGB officers, or maybe some soviet military generals. Ok accused this happened, there's no longer yours archer. Maybe your friends, somebody in Kazakhstan right all of these people had access to strategic and tactical nuclear arms. Actually there was a huge question over what was going to happen with the former Soviet Union's twenty seven thousand technical and strategic nuclear weapons. When the when the Soviet Union dissolve what happened to. Actually, there was a really

good effort that was made by the former soviet republics like Kazakhstan and Ukraine in an all these groups that actually were already in fighting with Russia right and the russian government to move all these nukes indoor, Russia, ok, and I think they did it with amazing speed right either you own resolutions, there were talks between the- U S in the EU and Russia in this former soviet republics and everybody got their nukes back into Russia. Borders in russian control. Now see that era. Riders article when I was researching this- and that is one of the scenarios they pose as one way could happen, is during transport. That's when they're probably most vulnerable. Yet you so in, but let's say here in iranian official, you got that you get the money, you got the means and not to pick on around here we should go to make. When a tick off anyone in IRAN

Let's say you know: you're jamaican official. You got tons of cash Damn you wanna nuke, there's a huge. Two going on rest, the dissolution of a former superpower in their twenty seven thousand nukes out right. You got the money due to purchase one in the means of getting it out of the country and live to Jamaica. My friend, you nuke yeah. I guess our thinking in terms of these days it's a lot more difficult than it would have been a nineteen anyone Hussar. Well, I think security has been tightened down somewhat. You think, since nineteen anyone you're about to shoot me down, I know not from what I can tell from reading up on this is that it's more likely that someone could steal the components of a nuclear weapon and ridable at themselves sure rather than load Billina. Thirty foot bomb on the back of their truck and drive it to borders right check, which makes people With the information in their heads of how

to assemble a nuclear bomb from all these various parts or more to the point, what parts you'd need to make a nuclear bomb? Incredibly valuable. Absolutely have you heard of Ache Yukon I have, but I know you're the man, the con man, the nice for him well, can actually the Father of Pakistani Nuclear Proliferation right, which is a country's program that were pretty worried about you well yeah, well, they have the bomb. India has the balmy do here also is under house arrest for five years from two thousand for until February two thousand nine, because he admitted to being involved in nuclear proliferation, illegal right nuclear proliferation. I can say that in

Countries like I live here, IRAN, I he was basically selling his knowledge to the highest bidder right for their own nuclear programme. Doesn't surprise me, so I mean if it may be hard to steal, actually incredibly hard to put together a nuclear bomb, it very hard to steal. But if you really look at it, using maybe outcomes razor, something like that, it would actually probably be. The easiest thing to do would be just going. Steal a nuclear bomb, stealing the parts right what's the easiest part to steal to when you want to assemble a nuclear bomb, Easiest part would be the explosive mechanism, the tea anti, which you need a lot of enriching. Name doesn't do much on its own. You need to explode it sure as they say, and that would be the easiest part you'd have to build the casing for it, which would be super easy, but it's really something you can manufacture yourself in the harnessing would probably be to get me

enrich the super enriched highly richer and highly enriched uranium plutonium if you could find doc yet that that would be too do you know why you would want plutonium or highly enriched uranium? What kind of Amr why I would say to go back to the future or to build a bomb? Yes, specifically official, ok now, what's the difference, you know the difference in vision, and you know I never. Well, I'm a smart guy. Because I don't know- and I hope one of his does- I do. Would you like to know yes So a vision bomb is where you taking a really heavy dense material. Are the nuclear heavy by their atomic weight? Is heavy gotcha and what you're doing is yours ripping nuclei of neutrons. Ok, which in turn releases more neutrons we saw on right, so you have it

a chain reaction in once its highly sustain its called Super critical mass right. Every super critical mass because neutron neutron is knocking neutrons from nuclear, so and so on and so on, and is happening really quickly in Iraq huge amount of energy. No going back at that point, no, unlike you are saying, and eighty entailing start this chain reaction, where a lot of it and dumb with with a few Bobby, actually doing the opposite. You take a very light substance like hydrogen and you take a tremendous amount of heat and you know from a explosion of tea, anti right and you smashed the stuff together. That creates another very big explosion. Which one is more likely scenario for stealing one. I would imagine efficient bomb because as the easiest to make ok, but the problem is it is highly enriched uranium or plutonium is very difficult exactly, although you can find

lot of in Russia and the? U S right, yeah, there's a lot of it that some are accounted for, just gonna, scary, yeah or left over. Did you read that thing about rubber gates from two thousand eight? Now he he based came out and accused Moscow of not knowing where a lot of their plutonium in highly enriched uranium was well. I could see that when the Soviet Union dissolve, there was a lot of chaos and disorder. They should go in Ireland and allow This excess nuclear material floating around right. So there's no way to get good account. What he was saying like we have no problem with the tactical nukes or these strategic new right. You know the difference between the two Ok, so I'm impressed a strategic need. This is right on my lecture, a strategic, is say, like a long range, intercontinental ballistic missile right and a tactical new could be may be attached to a missile on a box.

In the real distinction I read. Some put, it was a strategic nuke is meant to prevent war. A tactical nuke is meant to no war when awarding right. So you have me Those rocks in those are strategic news, and somebody gets in jobs a bomb in Hiroshima. That would be a technical, nay right. You, your regular, Philip Oppenheimer.

S not Robert Oppenheimer, by the way for those of you who are paying attention was the father of the ETA, not Philip. Here's the director of the Manhattan project right at Philip, was his brother, who was from what I understand didn't do much with. As I know, Philip was played by John with care. Let's get hello friends. I want to tell you about love book, the very easy way to personalize a book to someone you love in three easy steps. Love books, helps customers express the sentiments that may be difficult to say out loud for some of us looking in anyone's particular direction, users can create characters that look just like themselves and the recipient right down to the outfits and accessories customers have the option to personalize each page as much as they like, but the express option creates a complete book with just a few clicks law book now offers a membership programme as well. You receive a free book when you sign it.

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There are two thousand you to present any whenever that someone could get in there, but I also think that someone could take lessons on how to fly playing here in the United States ensure apply them in the buildings. I didn't seem likely either, so it is likely or not likely but possible. It is possible agreed and there is also another real threat. That's probably the most prominent. I guess which probably see here, maybe a little too late. We mean to stir up any paranoia among anybody, not just an interesting question where we met the stirrup paranoia about floor. I, but not this one, is it the yeah, probably the most realistic. There will be a dirty bomber year, which is made from what they call nuclear junk, which is not highly enriched uranium and plutonium correct it's a lesser quality. No, I think, come the it's it's a nuclear bomb, lacking a device to pray,

really that made it out. It is so you don't have the material needed or the energy needed to create like paper critical mass right, but let's you blew it up with a bunch of tea and see that was less than critical. Are super critical. You still spreading radio activity? Ok, I didn't know you tell me pleaded uranium. Did you about the rushing I that was caught the guy who are poison Lukashenko were now this in two thousand to, and this is one of those deals where I can find a lot following up in two thousand to a russian man- was busted smuggling twenty seven times of any enrich uranium at a siberian border checks. Holy cow, I did all follow up and they said it first. Oh no. This is just a regular shipment. As we said did uranium two to Kazakhstan, so it can be made into nuclear fuel to be sent back to Russia That's all it was, and then they came out with a second statement. This

I'm sorry, it wasn't enriches Zactly depleted uranium, and so what wasn't really big deal, and I can't find anything else after that, twenty seven times, though, that scare well, this proves there's a black market. Oh definitely, you know we're using depleted. Uranium is tank, piercing bullets artillery right really and apparently is a real growing concern among Iraq veterans. Afghanistan veterans that their around this in handling this this Emily, right. I like what's gonna happen. You know where my radioactive rhythm people have kids right is probably going to be the next agent orange depleted depleted uranium shells, but apparently the go right through tank, though I imagine tat you wanna talk about LOS Alamos sure good. You got

November. Two thousand six LOS Alamos National Laboratory those security breach and officials were worried that employ pass information concerning special access controls that would detonator bomb so that it wasn't a whole device but important valuable information secrets are being sold yeah using pals right, yes, okay, so a power checked out there. It can be. What, with John Fuller, who wrote this fine article mentions is that you know it takes who people the inner code at the same time, war games exactly go well. What's it called? It's called permissive action link? Yes, and if you remember the very first year of the Movie WAR games, Michael Madsen, was actually one of the security guards. You can buckle deal mythology excellently, yeah yeah my comments and was one of the two security

now in the silo that was supposed to turn the key at the same time, so the two men operation, one person, cannot set off the bomb. So it's pretty good measure. That's why sworn that's one type of pal there's also quantum encryption to create all sorts of different codes, any basically it if you can't just press a button, any barrier between you and pressing the button. Any step you have to take right to watch a nuclear weapon is a permissive accurately. Ok, so, when you hear the from the fingers on the button, that's really two fingers onto buttons and its early several steps to get to that point. Thankfully,

there is another way you can get a bomb and I really took I never. I never finished a sentence earlier. One often attention about the difference between technical and strategic sophomore arms they ve. What gates was talking about when he said that he he was accusing Moscow of not knowing rather stuff was on there's a whole bunch of nuclear mines. Nuclear artillery shells, basically nuclear junk ma- am that he suspects Moscow's. No idea where it is. That's the stuff that wouldn't likeliest make its way into.

A development which is why it's a bigger threat. Thank it see that future cleared. I get off my chest. You know one official wait about Pakistan early when: U S official said that if they can smuggle out the amount of heroin that they smuggle out the naked smuggle out nuclear materials, sure pretty much, although I suspect that there is a tacit approval of heroin smuggling in Afghanistan as far as the? U S goes, yeah I've read articles on: U S, generals or design. Rene? The payment tend to that there is nothing to do with what we're here for right activity is over there like pulling out their hair right thanks a lot sure. Well one thing I was gonna mention two: if this warrant a concern, legitimate concern than they're- probably wouldn't be an official name for this year. By the? U S, the Navy right, The navy caused a broken era, which is from the John. We want not from the top

However, I think got it from the Navy got, but that is the name for the seizure, theft, loss or loss of a nuclear weapon or component so component. His candidature, component. Or is he still the whole thing? If you make a stolen bought one? That would be bad rest. I love your idea here that I want to see this like the jamaican gown flathead with a nuclear bomb in the matter so check. There's another way you could get a nuclear weapon if you wanted to, but here you could travel to Tybee Island, Georgia yeah. There is a fifty one year old nuclear bomb, thermonuclear weapon somewhere off the coast of TB and not too far off of it occurred in right after that

first, you have no idea word. Yes, oh close it. I can't find it yeah distressing you're. What else is distressing? What the Department of Defense recognizes that at least one serious nuclear accident has occurred every single year since the atomic age began distressing. I don't know, what's more unsettling that once happened every year, they qualified it with at least right editor of one or more. Should we talk about some of these accidents yet totally reported excellent job has been done. There have this once good in nineteen. Fifty eight be forty seven bomber flying over Mars Bluff, South Carolina accidentally dropped in atomic bomb, which left a crater. Seventy five feet wide and thirty five. The more we ve talked about that one that was the one they Adam they abandoned. Searching for that New can end up, because the savanna to go deal with out is that what happened yet

ok yeah, so they were looking for this new for about a month, couldn't find it and then the one goes offer the ten t went right, bigger problem and they all evacuated over the South Carolina yeah, that's a good when you want. You got another one for me. Yet this one is animal unsettling in nineteen sixty five, some guys were basically, I guess knocking an airplane that head nuclear weapons, a board on the? U S, Ticonderoga, they had a wave and the airplane and its nukes rolled off into the sea of Japan. Transport did. Sixteen thousand devolving, luckily seems like all the accidents in insecurity, threats deal with transport yeah. What about the transfer from a submarine under the Eu S us all in the night and eighty one go ahead while that's pretty much it except for a while they were while they

moving the news from the submarine to U S- S hall and it started the fall. Seventeen feet in somebody very quickly pulled the emergency brake in its stopped right above the deck there was close at hand break yes, I'd like to see that the guy literally like yank it up and I'll bet he is treated. Around that yeah, but more than one you know, there's a you, an agency that is entrusted with pre Empting, this kind of thing, illegal proliferation, and they said in two thousand seven. They said that they theft and loss of nuclear and radioactive material you acted. Materials remains a persistent problem. The idea here, so that everyone is on record basically saying this. This happens all the time. There are hundreds of cases in Russia of people. Stealing your steel, the stuff. We want to tell you about this, Peru, love promise that right,

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What was a J Philip Oppenheimer said when he saw the first nuclear bomb? I am become death. Destroy of world very world talk about Pandora's box when no Kidding I've got some washed out. If you really need around this Bobby, no, no, it's ok, either. A hundred the incidence of such such action of of loss or theft in two thousand six alone Josh the magician. These involve sealed radioactive sources and in seventy three percent of these cases, the lost or stolen materials have not been recovered. That's fantastic as a basically what you're finding what Saying here is that there is a lot of unaccounted for nuclear material on the world market. Well, there's no international treaty. For this. I found out oh yeah yeah other third, there treaties, there's that the physical protection of nuclear material

Ray of nineteen eighty, but it's all for domestic use, storage and transport. There's no international work going on here will. Farmers in the post. Nine eleven world is well check anywhere, not fighting people who honour trees like we're, still look you're at nuclear nuclear, Non proliferation right through the paradigm of the Cold war, which is long overdue. Knowing ass to be, we had negative earlier mutual sir assured destruction where the USSR U S had so many new that they could wipe out a world within seconds of one another launching it s kept anybody. Doing anything about Eliza AIM of take tactile exactly there's. No, that's that exist anymore. There's no polarisation in wrath to rethink this, especially if there's no

accountability or not enough. Accountability are somewhat less safe. Now there, during the arms race, and how do you get something? How do you take something out of existence when it wait when it's already been created by donor can happen, I it would take- and I think I can- I think it could happen, but you'd have to be Really dedicated bright and you would also have to be pretty cold. Blooded has guys like eight Yukon would have to get shot in the back of the head. Mr and not just eight, you combat all of our guy to all anybody who knows how to make a nuclear bomb and had to be executed. My sister for joining us if they want to know more about nuclear anything, we get a bunch of it on the sidelines. Housetop works, dot, com, we're the handy search bar for conveniency, unite the troll from Channel the channel page by page, and since I said that in Jerry's Iser Cross has she so bored. I think that means

time for a listener. Male Josh, I'm gonna, call this an eerie Pennsylvania email get this from Sarah. She stood at their collegiate high school. I guess Collegiate Academy in your stupid are stupid. People happier podcast. You talked a lot about these objectives of happiness. What was all the references made to your super stuff, guided the economy now on sale in Itunes. It reminded me of a project my ap Macro Economics Class conducted at the end of last year. Most nations measure their economic success and instruments of GDP and the like, but the nation of boots on created similar scale, foul gross national happiness, I've written on that really death. I believe it. Basically it's an extensive survey that they did and she and her classmates decided to offer.

Project to do the same thing. Your high school find out what the happiness fear was likely to get. So she wrote in and told me this and I was like that's cool and like, but you didn't tell me any the results or anything. So how about it? So she email me back and said: are you well statements in four categories? Is what were a rating as well as male and female in grade level to define the gross collegiate happiness scale. Each was rated on a scale of one zero to five. With one being released agreeable to our statement, I predicted that we would have achieved an overall happiness index of about two five, but surprisingly, sward significantly higher and are having a scale. We point, five eight on an economic scale and including outliers is pretty great. She says the most agreeable statement so that was from Sarah arrogance of ancient. There is why Series headed to Yale this? Yes, there is replaced. It sounds like your classmates really happy there.

And the principal satisfied with it. Although he could tell she wanted a perfect five point now. She obviously having studied economics, were or statistics recently so that was from Sir an eerie pennsylvanian. There is why Series headed to Yale this yes, there's replaced. It sounds like your class me to be happy there Collegiate Academy for them the gross national happiness critical. Yet through tonnes very serious about it, the king advocated is thrown see established democracy because it was really they determined that democracy may perhaps your people, yet most critical! Well, Sarah of your Yale bound, like Sarah, don't know where you're headed. Yet you can listen, email like us, detailing anything. You like do anything we want ass were chuck now we ve been getting good feedback lately, thanks principle Why, if you wanted to send an email? I guess that's what we're trying to say right. You can send that you stuff podcast how stuff,

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