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but the underside of the air, and that factored in not much too despite gas, but it is worth mentioning here. Exactly and you have been wanting to tackle breastfeeding. Yes, as a topic. For a long time. Yet, as I got into a nose like we can't as to how breastfeeding works, is too unwieldy gotta be to partner near, and I realized it would be folly. It also name how breastfeeding worked so recalling it how feeding babies works, part one in part to air we may french it up, though, and call the second one part do yeah, and this one is, You then reticent to do this one because it is fraught with. Anytime, you dealing with babies and moms. It is fraught with differing opinions, differing largest among

people listening in how we feel about everything, but from the medical community differing recommendations, and rightly so, there isn't really one set way ever and people think their way is the way. Here, your way is not the way. There's a straight up. Culture or going on over yeah. That's it easy way say it's Y see why you waited into this gently and with some trepidation, but I feel like Once we got in there, you know we we we can talk about anything agreed I think I said some of that is a way of saying hey if we get some stuff wrong, if you did, you disagree with some of the stuff, Where does thrown it out there yeah and were also we're going. Best not to mansplain, because this very

easily could end up being the very definition of man splaining, what two men doing it to pursue in breast milk story, we try not to do that. If we do, you can hold accountable, but Edward Strand, to deliver their mission that we found. Yet none of this I have no opinion on any. This actually get ready. Yet, okay, so to start actually want to things that in This is a really great, a really great article. By a woman named Angela, I'm not quite sure how to say or less named garbage, maybe a guard ass. It was in the stranger and she was, she was breastfeeding at the time and was just fascinated by so. She wrote this really great article in the stranger about breastfeeding. And I M one of the things she points out is that when women breast feed they would shoot. They quote:

really dissolve parts of ourselves, starting with the gloody or for moral fat, a our butts in turn it into a liquid feeder babies in your mouth, was blown yeah, there's a lot of them a lot of, really amazing stuff. When you start to look in the breast feeding breast milk year, what what the bodies doing pretty mine blowing. Actually every single aspect of him reproduction to me in his mind, blowing notice and not just human, just period, reproduction right making a little thing inside of a body, peace and we see peace and we re coming together to make another living thing right is just one bus amazing, miraculous things. It is pretty name just unbelievable. So with press, not great, there's different stages of of of breast milk production is actually, I think, is far

three stages of worth called Lactose Geneva right, yeah stage wine. Is the basically the prima stage that happens before birth stage, too, is worth called classroom. Which is a kind of milk, the what you think of his breast milk. No, it's it's! Basically, I'm gonna externalities were designed a lot, but it's basically specifically designed to feed of baby for the first few days. Efforts: birth, yes Anders the third stage, which is called the milk maintenance, but the butt, Milk is made. This is pretty nuts, so you ve got little tiny cell clusters called alveoli right and that's, where actual production occurs. In these alveoli they, basically I have something called lack. The siting, lack decides go into, the blue stream and gather nutrients. It needs to form the milk right Depending on what

is needed at any given point in time it will retrieve those neutral to nanny bodies and all that stuff in putting together and then create the milk. That's pretty awesome, so the them is literally made from the woman's body not right. Ok, it's that delivered a guy in white, had right, but there's no milk store or anything like that at any given point in time. The the actual components of a woman's breast milk is different, from maybe what it would be the next day or later that night there were a week before the cynical, its own recipe on a day to day basis, which will talk more about cool stuff later to so it is low in fat, but really high and proteins and carbohydrates will the collar the colossus remiss yet that first yellowish thick as you call it the thick golden liquid, which,

that's good way, discredit if you ve ever seen it like INA, you can just type it in, and images and little little have pictures of next press melt and even its pretty stark difference in all of it. But the whole point, as that is its super easy to digest for a new born baby and gives that be exactly what they need to. Get going on life, including you know that had started cleaning. Having a lack of effective, get rid of that first poop, which is called the Marconi M, which is of is weighing on that first group, is a very big deal, because then be no things are moving as it should and written year enough. Then it's nothing but poop. Sweet baby has a little bit different poop than a formula that baby it's a little more yellowish than brown and supposedly doesn't smoke widest bad. So they say I've seen that it actually smells bitterly

buttermilk on an altogether occurs and because as milk is well absorbed. The babies who were breastfed are very rarely constipated too. Yes, so you got that's the collapsed when, after several days, the classroom goes away and is replaced instead by what's called mature breast milk, the good stuff, the yeah this, if you think of anything of breast my eye. So it's about three to five percent fat and his chock full of minerals environments sodium, potassium calcium, magnesium phosphorus. Vitamins, eighteen e launch, fatty acids there, both omega three Anna and Sixes, and then you so have lactose is the principal carbohydrate right, yeah and life. This is important because it is a huge, wonderful energy sources

and it also has the proteins in it are a specific protein, their way protein say so wrapped in in cash. Milk or in livestock milk proteins, usually caisson, which isn't as easy to digest in breast milk in a way, which is the extremely easy did I just for human babies and then even more interesting chuck, there's something ugly o sack rides, yet raising. These are sugars like and fifty or more, and they are only human milk yeah, it's pretty astounding so. You think about us need their their needs, It's that are only found in human milk, is for human babies, makes sense with the Sure thing, though, is that these uglier sacrilege Campi digestive by they're not actually for the baby. There, actually,

nutrients for the gut flora in the baby's gets in the baby stomach to help it. I just food even better there, so it actually, for the Micro biome of the baby in the breast milk? It's amazing it is keeping to drop. This. Might I think, you're saying uglier segwarides over what is it only go area? Are misplaced gee? That's! Ok. That happens. So I know one of the big things to that that has been amazed. You, for awhile, because you ve dropped. This fact a lot lately is heading the Young did that The human body how the human body fights off immunity, but something really unique happens when a mother's breastfeeding a baby. Is it's a bit of a two way street there's a vacuum created when the baby is breastfeeding on the nipple and if a baby needs some

however, a mean immunity response boost, then the bay, he's saliva, were actually enter back into the woman through the nipple mommy all of a sudden, her her body says: oh, you too, me that you need this to fight off some sort of sickness, perhaps So now my body will produce set and then render it back to you in the breast milk. On believe, oh yeah, thirty but he made there's like receptors than the memory glamour analyze, the saliva fur pathogen. Then produce antibodies. As a result, that's crazy awesome near so the smoke, a shortfall of nutrients, its chock full of proteins and fats, and all is great as well as any bodies so that the baby being breastfed has this. This established Micro biome thanks in large part to what the Mont Breast milk is giving it.

And like you said where her, despite the things in the breast milk, in his body, can also say: oh, we need this to me with some of that right, examine deliver that he was well here. Is it's pretty cool? and even cooler. Why on earth, Cholerick. I'm gonna keep saying that, but when, when a woman, nurses, there's basically two stages of the actual nursing the first stuff to come, as called for milk, it's kind of finnish and bluish, and it's mostly water in its method like for the baby's thirst. Yet he had for migration right, because a baby can sit for the first four six months of his life solely on breast milk, the uneven need water yeah, it's getting it from that for milk and then the stuff that comes out after the for milk is all hind Belkin, it's the cream, your stuff. It's higher and fat and that's what fills the baby up yet

so, if a father's talk of immunity, building and stuff like that makes, you think that a breastfed baby might potentially be less susceptible to illness. Then a formula that baby. So studies show that is possible. Every situation is different. Of course you can have breastfed babies, it get sick, a lot you can have formula for babies, it never gets Zack other is no like hundred percent across the board thing, but the World Health Organisation and the American Academy pediatrics. Both command exclusive breastfeeding for at least six months, because they do think it can lead to fewer illnesses. Fewer hospitalizations or at least milder illnesses right, and it's not just those two. The government of the? U K, Australia, Canada, Ireland, India, Japan, all of recommend their women breastfeed exclusively for six months. Yeah right,

but as the Angela Jarvis pointed out, though this those health outcomes, those paths health outcome, yet their relatives you're right so your baby is born in the way then a developed nation with stated technology and born a relatively healthy baby. The the benefits from breastfeeding are going to be much less than if you compare that baby to a baby. That's born in developing nation, where water, so the water available is impure yeah lenity disease, perhaps aha agenda in in countries generally poverty stricken that baby will bend tremendously more from breastfeeding gear than would be. Said, born in the modern developed writ richer country yeah absolute men also will see we're gonna get into it for sure we we can avoid, but there's

there's a lot of conflicting studies earlier on breastfeeding, without comes in the benefits of it, but we will wait into that later. Yes, with our cavalry so what's the problem, more about some of the said, the benefits of breastfeeding, one of them is if he just one look strictly numbers. If a one body produces something for free that you would normally have to purchase in a store in the former formula, then is just gonna be fight out cheaper than four hundred dollar number- and here is way low. Oh really says in the: U S: families can save an average of four hundred hours a year, even with the cost of arrest pump Oh yeah, that's gotta be locus acres. You spend, I think the average cost of formula for a year is closer to sixteen

hundred bucks, wow and then subtract, of course, for the breast pump and stuff But just say: you're, safe, some money, right off save having to get up and go to the kitchen to make some formula, or to wash. Bottles, sterilised, bottles yet, although I think it most when probably do pump and dump in bottles. Yet he says yeah yeah. So yet saving money, maybe similar inconvenience. That's one positive. Yet fighting is. Is this little section this that comes from the House of Lords article and breastfeeding chemicals, breastfeeding too so easy inconvenient right. You know like there's nothing, to stop complaining. So we should talk a little bit about these. Two hormones are super super important, breastfeeding and period

in life yet because these are definite benefits of breastfeeding. It's it's, not you can't. With it. You were talking about oxytocin in prolactin and prolactin. Prolactin tells the milk hey make more milk tells the glance the basically makes that production happened. Right oxytocin is what gets the breast milk to your baby milk. Let down is what it's called here, which is Canada. Let down sounds like something bad happened applied. They called it that, but yes, let down in this case, for it, but as long as your feeding breastfeeding or your pumping the new bodies, continue to release that prolactin and is this sort of feedback loop right exists. An end there, Sir there's this Need caravan It's all hormonal right, prolactin, oxytocin, thereby hormones This new, like hormonal balance, where, when your breast gets for no pretty

and slows down and then, when your breast empties milk production speeds back up, pretty cock is oxytocin specifically is really amazing, that is a chemical messenger and it releases release from the brain and a lot of it. I mean it's not just something that happens with women oxytocin. We all have it yet. Sure, promoted, promoting hormone. Yet exactly skin on skin contact, is where things is where things get really interesting. Right is it actually triggers the release of oxytocin right and there's. If there, One thing that a new mothers brain is prime, too, to experience its floods of ox Oh said yes and there they actually believe that this is the basis for that the incredible mother infant bond that occurs yeah. It's this huge surge of oxytocin. That

ex place during labour after birth and, as is sustained through skinned skin contact, including breastfeeding. Yes, and this happens the pretty amazing fact in those We stated that that flood of oxen Some nerve Jack in parts of the mothers brain actually reorganise and it becomes like maternal instinct becomes hardwired that point right, exactly like the oxy Tellson receptors stir to to spread all over the place in vast numbers. And so, when the Wendy, these matters, behaviors. I guess you'd call. If you want to talk about a woman like you're, a biologist strike, the the oxytocin is released, and so the pattern is reinforced First, it looks like you said, like the brain is structurally reorganising the motherhood. Yes, it's pretty astounding

yeah and they they recommend like instead that everything we ve said. You dont breastfeed was a you are able to breathe, Let's say you have adopted your child, there's all sorts of scenarios Maybe we're? U dont breastfeed! They will recommend that skin on scan contact, as soon as possible and as much as possible this for mom dad's get in on that action, there's nothing better than than laying chest a chess with a newborn baby right and that skin on Skype contact works. The same way with man is not quite as a robust release of oxytocin right, but that there have been plenty of studies that have shown that children, who don't have that kind of thing contact don't develop as securely.

Brains, don't necessarily developers robustly early socially yeah as kids, who do have this kinda skin contact a lot of people take that to mean that breast feeding is what responsible for that. That's the case right breastfeeding allows for their skin the skin contact. So it allow for their oxytocin release in the child to develop more securely here. But you like you're, saying you can also get the same. From holding the baby skinned skin without even breast. Yeah and then the when this security and under development occurs. It appears to be from neglect right. Maternal and paternal neglect, rather than the fact that the breastfeeding is so great at the breastfeeding forces that essentially rectum accent so there's even more and actually turn right, the the oxytocin prevents of it. I saw it

that showed that mothers who breastfeed had about half the levels of stress hormone release as mothers who didn't breastfeeding yeah. It allows imprinting odor imprinting yeah for baby and mom right. So I recognise your smell right. The baby became accustomed to the smell of it. Amniotic fluid in the warm thanks to oxytocin. Well, the mothers breast smells similar to the smell of the amniotic fluid. So the baby is able You find the mothers nipple asked being born just from that smell right yeah. All of this is fostered from oxytocin, and it's it's. Hard wired through oxytocin is as well, but our standing of oxytocin and how it does it is we, basically, you can replace oxytocin with so turn or magic. Yeah right, there's two languages,

We understand how it's doing all this. We do know that it does thanks to road and studies. Yeah, that's funny, but it's true and it also reduces the your babies stress hormone responses, so they done studies where they found it in say in the continent of Africa, where mothers tend to carry their babies. Alot more than like here in the United States may be that there that babies, tinted cry less and are able to soothe self soothe more introduced more suitable period because their despair simply held, nor yet others also supposedly study I think children in Eastern Europe who were raised from infancy in orphanages. There were head tremendous like social mal adaptations and they chased them. To not having been held as chair like that's here, it's huge debts,

early Skinner skin on skin holding is, is the solution that their way in my colleague, scaly skender. When I gave her my friend, will it make it up with kids the except he was talking about, like writing twelve years is adapted exec later one of the other amazing things and then will protect break after this but finishing up on oxytocin, I feel like we can honestly progress and oxytocin fear. We really should the wonder hormone MA am, but why? that high level that big rush of oxytocin, priorities actually become altered in the book, and says you know what you don't have to the groom yourself in and try and make yourself look a certain way to obtain a mate anymore. Now your priority is feeding the civil baby, and so it literally can switch. Is that often the brain so moms like I don't have the like now

groom my child, and I worry about myself with their like earth. Why is my so in a shop. This stupid, necklace, yeah, pretty much it's it's gonna funding and think about it, but it's almost like the bodies in take a break from that stuff focus on baby for a little while and maybe later on. What's the oxytocin aspect and what you want another baby up, maybe so in prolactin is somewhere a lot of ways. We don't it that short, but I'm it's in the maiden pituitary gland in the brain- helps people sleep helps me. Reproductive organs, your immune system and its. What prepares the mommy's breast to make breast milk right. It also well, the mom is nursing it. It is released and it has this kind of

axing effect. Yes, Mamma is happy to sit there and the arrests feed. Now after, like worry getting up and doing something else is content doing that All of this is designed to keep mommy, doped up and happy right changes take baby in, like to love that baby yeah, her brain is physically rewired by oxytocin to love that one baby right there. Before we say amazing, again, we'll take a break more come back right after this who

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Audible trial today in your first audio book, is on us to get started. Just visit, audible, dot, com, Slash S, why s k or text S, why s gay too far hundred five hundred, yeah so Chuck. A lot of the talk of how magic this is and how natural it isn't how hormonally driven all of this is has led a lot of people. So there's a lot of women out there who have experienced a lot of difficulty here with breastfeeding, rifle Gecko and probably felt a lot of frustration shame, rejection action is, it meant all sorts of like really horrible of feelings of because

feeling didn't come. Naturally, that's right, apparently breastfeeding is as natural a thing it is. It is, is actually not like when walking around is naturally knows how to do it takes some practice. You have to learn, to do at first year, like sometimes the bread Nope won't come in for a few days like Ideally you wanna be breastfeeding like in a few hours. If you can one hour within the first hours was recommended gear ended and if that didn't happen at least get that ski. We going right the area, but sometimes it takes a few days for the best not to come in. There are conditions where breast milk may never come in right now, I would advise is to stay off the mommy bogs. They can be four, but they can also really be tough on a new mother. If you feel like you, measure up to yeah, breastfeeding ideal. There's a lot of judgment going on. Even if you just look up like breast milk didn't come in you'll find some

they say yeah. You know sometimes that happens and other women say like you just gave up got lost with it and you didn't work at it right. Apparently, the recommendations that I found in they didn't find judge mentally. They seemed to come from Non judgmental play the boy take his eyes DA mayor was keep trying, basically I am sure that there is some wine and every mother has her own mind once she gets too that line design here, but Apparently, if Europe, if your milk, isn't coming in the best way to it has to come in is to keep nursing. Yes, he keep getting the breast milk fund that eventually gonna get the prolactin going here and the prolactin going to get the milk in as Gonna get the axe. Hosting going and oxytocin is going to let the milk down so just trying to breastfeed apparently is the best fix for breastfeeding.

Problems write. Another thing to do is to reach. I too was called lactation consultant yeah there professionals out there who will advise You mean they're all kinds of services that can help you with everything from advising you counselling, you too literally, showing you different methods which will two on how to literally physically breastfeed like how to hold a baby Harare, while that stuff, it's just sort of like a coach in a way near coaching counselor, I think, is where to put it right, and they can really really helped and don't don't hesitate to reach or that things are coming naturally to use that things are coming naturally to use. Something is wrong with you give a sign that that change needs to get out of I know any cigarette out a society yeah. What is it have you no run? If you have a baby there's, you know, I mean we should do on postponing depressions his rights.

Sometimes you're at the whims of what your body in your hormones are doing. Right now and so you might normally not feel those things feel so things right and then you add, on top these social expectations, friends and neighbours in the nurses in the doktor, and everybody will just showed up here. You know: oh you're not breastfeeding, This is why this is a great article, their hand arose and wrote. It was published in the Atlantic. Two dozen nine called the case against breastfeeding, yeah very controversial, and she just some of this stuff. She she mentions the summit casual via being out that a mom encounters when she said He doesn't breastfeeding. There's a lot of them a lot of social pressure to breastfeed. Yet if you, if you ve chosen, are you having trouble with it when everything is theirs, Jack I'll find a lactation sultanas find at the same time make sure you

also in close contact with your doktor there, your child's doktor, because, If your breast milk isn't coming your baby, sillies eat something you're right, so you're a doctor will be able to tell you well, you might want to go by some some human milk or you might want to introduce a baby to formula while you're also nursing to retrain nurse, to get your press not coming, so that your baby has enough neutral, the galleries and everything here or learn. If it's not coming in as much some women might not get a doctor light because reproducing breast milk, but not producing enough on a daily basis. So our cases where a baby is like hospitalized and they found that the baby is actually suffering some from the migration hyper nor dreamier here, just like a saw you imbalance yeah they that a baby can dive, and it comes from. We women being south so thoroughly scared off from four

ashamed away from formula right that their their not getting enough milk, but they did. They are afraid to supplement it with anything like formula. So the baby ends up in derision its hey. I wanna take this chance to recommend another podcast. We're talking about. Gigi people one bad mother, great great mom. Actually, parenting podcast got one bad mother, but please Alison as well, and it is on the MAX one network and our friends, my friend Teresa Thorn and Busy Ellis her co host is just a great fun funny, podcast very supportive, not judge mental, and I was a guest Oh until the bit of my adoption story a while ago, I cameraman Lastly, I remember there is obviously some time after mid. Some I still remember the name of the episode. The number now

thirty one and you can do a google that Jack do anyway, one met one bad mother, it's great and fine. If it's not them too and some good resource. That is us worthy and that you feel good about yeah. So with all I said, here's how to breastfeed it's easy right, just disappear shirt off weird. You know it's funny like some of these. I was going through like premature, million motions in everything, yeah yeah, some of tough to visualize but others in view and she's like? Why are you cradling a loaf and rye bread? Why is it cried? He could make Reich very powerful, Apparently, the latch is everything right. The Bay got a lot of time and, like you said, the vacuum has to be formed and too form the vacuum. Babes gotta get a big old mouthful, boob nipple, specifically so

when you're getting the baby to, let you grabbed the breast around the nipple around the aerial life and you basically tickle the baby's mouth, with your nipple there and he's like ok, I'm open wide and you take the hurt them. Item over jaw and put it underneath your breast personally were underneath your nipple. I'm sorry here also don't listen and then you you move her head forward Anti. So that the top of her mouth is now on the nipple and taking in at least one to one and a half inches of area. Oh I as well, yes, idea that baby

Somali mommy doesn't like me down or lean over to baby bright. Isn't it the? How goes the sort I saw? There are various types of holds: the soup lacks the figure for no sorry as a professional that's wrestling sleeper hall, the cradle position. That is one of em. That's when you you have the baby on your form, her head in the cook of your arm in sport. The bottom, with the other hand, poor. Little baby close to you barely two belly, which is a great thing I, with her ear children have been a straight line yet so that's the cradle, the football yeah caught the Heisman, the highs. So you're you're, lying back right So what I'm giving here, maybe it was the market then there's a pillow very close to your side with your baby on top and I think you're both facing in opposite directions. Drake

are you facing one another, but your pointing in opposite directions? Year and dumb, you just lift the baby your babies head up to your breast from the side in this the good, if you had a section clause, you don't wanna baby anywhere near your belly after that here the football I couldn't picture in my head as much that, like the less clear oak babies face in this way, I'm face now I gotcha in nothing Then you have. The old side lie for babies is getting a lot of hair and God besides I'm not the same thing as aside I cyanide, not the same thing as aside I much different so get if you ve had a c section or if you want to rest, if you're worn out, why so this is when you are on your side. Please, your head on a pillar as mom and pull the baby. Both you and use your arm. Aren't sport her little baby bottom, which is adorable

and I use your other hand to bring your breast up to the vague mouth. So I think that would make sense to me. Yell made sense to me: will you I practice? You had a loaf of bread. I did not so again if this isn't working at first worry dont be discouraged. Don't take it like your baby. Doesn't like you or is rejecting you not the case. Try dragon try, try again, but also again, if you read your point, if you reach your limit, will then come up plan b or go with plan b, like no judgment Here's, a pretty amazing fact. If you have adopted your baby or if you use the surrogate or if your feet partners and new mothers. You can actually point is if he didn't give birth to the baby right, We say. Yes, you can actually induce lactation with.

Time and patients not always, but it is possible to breastfeed a baby that you did not bear where's astounding, yes, like there's a lot of technology can use here. Massages help quite a bit yeah. You try hand expressing like eight to twelve the day like shadow puppets, basically squeezing sheriff hovered and you can also take something called. I love this word galactic gods. Yet it certainly sounds like a video game from eighties right, is the type of chemical that crew. That's that's better! women's body to start creating breast milk, great yeah and there's some there have been proven through scientific study drugs. Many clover, my right!

then apparently there's herbs that anecdotally work wonders, including fenugreek. They don't have quite as much evidence based efficacy, but they may still work for you. Two are trying Deanna think if you watch like Gilmore Girls, that might help her. Pop in steel magnolias share any mother centric plot line. Actually not army dearest. He has had to say so. Oh Mammie, dear ass, you might wanna stay away from those who take another break mature let's do it. I do not

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Well, that's up to you as an individual. Obviously, like we said their experts do recommend that first, forty six months is pretty key, and that doesn't mean it has to be exclusively now. If you and argument were formula, you can do that everyone's decision to make on their own. Was that lady members that one lady made a lot of news cuz. She was on the cover, I'm sure to look this up she's on the cover of some magazine over time or Newsweek Year with a much older before five euro. I could remember the age of the over son. There was breastfeeding and got reflect for that, but it was the liquor in article an attachment parenting. I think that diameter stuff, I can't remember exactly ass- she looked up and burn pretty sure. It was either taiwanese but anyway, to make the point like someone, I've done that where they breast feed like two there,

where they get, is coming up in saying: hey mom can, I would love some food sure footed If you're doing there you want to make sure that your kid is eating plenty of other stuff is well sure, because the point of breastfeeding urban milk is that it can sustain a child exclusively for the first four to six months of his or her life after that You have to start supplementing either a formula or solid foods, and the rule of thumb that I saw. We knowing whether or not the baby was ready to start trying solid foods is, if here, then is coordinated enough to let you know when she's full. You could try to start supplementing with solids but you you can breastfeed exclusively up to forty six months after that you just physically, can't there's not enough nutrients for you to produce to sustain your kid with breast milk alone. After six months of age right, we ve mentioned. Pumping a couple of times will get more indebted poor to buy them

you live under a rock. You don't know what that is. That means you are just storing your breast milk you're using a device machine. I guess you want to call it too the story or breast milk. For later it means you like to have a drink once while so lay off, but we'll get to that. Do but as far as storage goes, here's the deal depends on how what kind of fridge Caesar. You store the now again and how often that is opened? I was aren't you So like, if you have one of those, if you have a small old school fridge, as the little freezer section in the top of it, that is the shortest amount of time, that is only two weeks of storage, even in the freezer. If you have a separate freezer in that same within that fridge, through a freeze on the bottom or whenever you can see

as long as three to six months, if you have it freezer in the garage right. Body, and if you're dead bodies like burning behaviour, delivered stakes option service in a dead body save all offers some guys. Pickup truck you can actually store in the deep deep race or six to twelve months, even though they say it's past six months is not optimal, so I think, like you know, if you were. Through the zombie apocalypse happen, and he has some twelve month old, frozen, solid breast milk right. You can trainees yeah that all give our thumbs up now and in room temperature. Apparently, if it's a, u know foolish room and it's not the heat of summer with no, I see we're talking about six hours, which is longer than I thought and then up to five days in a fridge, although that's not optimal supposedly after about three days and you just want to make sure in the fridge

in anywhere really everything is super super clean right. You got it little cap on their Darrell. Yet everything is, is really really especially early we and babies life, you want everything really really really. So the One of the reasons, one of the big reason is there: a lot of women pump is because they want to breastfeed, but they also either want to or need to get back to work and This is a big issue as far as breastfeeding goes. This is some really great new New Republic review of a book called lack the vision and the review is named Catherine Joyce and she points out that great that the World Health Organization in the American Academy pediatrics in all these guys, say women should breastfeeding simply for at least the first six, my dear, but that that demand It puts a burden on basically no one, except for the mob, yes and then

we'll take seriously were saying breast feed for six months and get back to work because gotten economy, the two to keep going. Yeah or you have read to pay or get back to work as you have. Your family needs it right, and so Angela Jarvis points out like basically everything about breastfeeding. Is at odds with holding down full time. Work that breastfeeding for the first few months take eight hours a day. Easily, but hey go where eight hours. On top of that right- and she says I quite reasonably, therefore telling people for telling mothers hey. You should breastfeeding exclusively for six months: then they should also be given. Six months have paid maternity leave at a minimum and that that should be, should be training in american law. It may sound go to a lot of Americans. In fact, America. The only develop nation that doesn't guarantee paid time off for mothers, yeah,

there's not a day of paid time off their mother gets gender federal law in the United States. It's the only develop nation that doesn't have that, while it's one of the two nations that doesn't have it the other one is What new guinea? point guinea! Eighty five percent of the people who live there make their subsistence of agriculture. The earth. We don't need to have a law like that they're pretty amazing. It's amazing, to burden the opposite, wife, bad amazing, I mean these days. There are a lot jobs that are way more flexible as far as working from home. Having lactation rooms agreed through We'll scheduling like a lot of companies have made it much easier for you with a combination of pumping and dumping to to do so. Be able to do that. But if you know

lucky enough to be in one hour scenarios and if you ve got a job, it's like nope. Don't do that here. Where are you now? You gotta get well yeah. They have so they have to allow some break time they have to provide some private place, but there's no specifications. Can't be some old, shower stall. Sure thing like that, and, of course it s just the law like that doesn't mean every company absolutely does this across the board: Brett that run a foul of the law. European. It is getting better there. It is that among employers, but in the United States. There's the family leave active ninety ninety three and it does guarantee twelve weeks of paid maternity leave. You have it. Your family might not be able to afford so they equals like no maternity time yet and they found of cross for that, higher income families breastfeed longer right is just the way it is you're, some more stats for you. If you want to talk about how long to breast

Most women stop within the first year. In two thousand thirteen, the CDC said: seventy seven percent of american women breastfed from birth at that since birth and then after six month that dropped to sixteen percent right. But you make a big point while you to make a point you source these points I I I arrange them to make play. I know you make a point that it's a depends on where you live in the world figure on the continent, eighty seven percent are women breastfed beyond twelve months, So deadly depends on where you are, and you make the point, which is what I was getting to. Is that the US? A lot of these that's gonna, stick old man listing? Can outnumbered contradictory, contradictory, so's, really hard to canna, get great percentages and stuff, but thing that we looked at does say:

Sweden is on the rise sure in what the less probably twenty years and that is on the rise, especially among older white, educated, wealthier women. For other reasons, we talked about here was pull out of farmers feel first second chuck and talk about food. So yes, food, yes, what a mom eats if the mom is is producing this milk. It would make sense in turn that the milk will end up, because we said each recipe each day can be a little bit different and if you had a general South Chicken yeah the night before your breast milk, might be lost by senior gathers. Actually, there is a study back in the seventies, diversity of Manitoba. They took breastwork for breast milk from women and

like a flavor professional tasting panel, didn't episode on those sample. Woman the women had eaten spicy food. The night before in hers was described as hot in peppery pretty need. It is pretty. And then this one woman and she's, not the only one, of course, but his letting him Julia Manila. The money or chemical since a sinner in Philadelphia said that she thinks and a lot of people agree that these early flavour profiles at the baby experiences develop taste preferences for later in life right that makes me yeah. I see no reason why that should not be too. Now, though, I don't know it's proven, though, but it does make a lot of sense here. So when you feeding the rule of thumb that I've is that you want to eat about five hundred more calories a day. Then you were before you're pregnant yeah. Right jobs, candy bars, know you want to avoid that kind of stuff right you

actually want to avoid junk food. Instead, you gonna eat the good stuff. That's right, the stuff, it's good for you, the stuff, that's hall, the stuff, that's chock, full of like good, find a man, in his nutritious a gay, the food. You should eat period right, but all this stuff is gonna pass right. Through you into your baby in the form of your milk it. So it's the stuff you eat is like a gift to your baby. It's like a passing that really great food alone That's right sometimes like something that my mom and baby problems, if you eat like Brussels sprout Sir, major things it might make your own gaseous broccoli. Everyone has different things that make them gas here. What? it is for you that could cause some trouble What else? Anything anything heavy and additives or dies yeah like we'll talk like non whole foods could produce

little bit more issues for you in baby, both onions, garlic, citrus Corn, is no good, or all of these trickier. Can they can produce problems right so You ve, noticed that your baby after eating they after eating is, drawing her legs up to her her son, I can screaming yeah that's colic, it's probably because Your baby has gas. You. Figure out what it is that you're eating that is giving your baby gas there's also others. Is that you can pass on to your baby that the baby doesn't want that can result in happy baby caffeine. That can papa noticing coffee, but also things like coke and chocolate and all sorts of stuff here, also worries that babies actually develop food allergies, which is entirely possible. That usually source back to milk, the human

be lactose intolerant, but your baby might be all this stuff. You figure out on your own very easily doing a very simple at home experiment. Take whatever food you think, making your baby unhappy in. Remove it from you diet for about a week. Yes, if that clears it up, if it doesn't it wasn't that food you can reintroduce that food. Yet like with any food. Allergies is discovered, an elimination diet and you get rid of the stuff. Until you see a change Then change move on to the next thing. Yeah mom, really pretty in tune with baby and ideally, and so it did some an elimination, dieters is pretty and was easy. It is time consuming, and you should keep records of things, but its fairly intuitive, I think, is what I was looking for you. So. Apparently these to tell moms drinking

to beer. Aid in milk production. Really that sounds so true, it's ridiculous, so it must be true of yeah. So they realise that no use Polly not do that. Not only does it not a milk production, but apparently the blood, alcohol content there you have about the same percentage, is past longer your breast milk. The blood alcohol content of your breast milk is pretty much the same as your blood alcohol level at any given point, which is a super low unless you ve been drinking than its super high you poor baby blitzed. Well, I breastfeeding drunk have to drink a lot. I dont know that's the casement. Now it's absolutely the case like your blood alcohol content, even if your ripped is still super super low account as far as a percentage of the hall in your blood overtime, Only what is it little widely boiled away like eight pounds, another now recommending it Henderson,

it's not like you're, giving your kid a shot of booze rush. If you ve, it's got a boost, and this is another one of these things it like it. If you look at ten different places, you're gonna get ten different, opinions even from doctors, shocked us all doktor was like you know what this is one of the things it just makes it. Harder for a woman tell her. She shouldn't even have a glass of wine when she's breastfeeding bright so really like a literally looked at like four different things, and they all said something different. What I did see was there direct correlation between the amount that you're drinking and whether or not linking it with food it just like with the body in it. It levels it has to do with the man's weight and like the amount of fat, although it may seem like we're alcohol stores, you're. So there's a lot of factors that go into it: the American,

your pity. Address committee on drugs considers alcohol compatible with breastfeeding. So they said you dont have to abstain, but everything I read says like keep in check and maybe don't like drink the wine, while you're breastfeeding or within a couple of hours, like maybe have the glass of wine after you rest, but maybe down for the night, so the those rules I myself two hours before, alcohol is out of your system yet which means, if your breast every two hours you gotta either pumping dump hand express or yet time it so that it is not you not passing along, and this is after me, no nine months, probably abstaining from alcohol, dia ham, I mean I don't blame anybody for being like I'm having a class wine here. You know people

a glass of wine. Why didn't say I'm having a scotch we're having a fitting Scott Now don't have a fifth: do you have an institution attitude toward smoking and breastfeeding? Who me well? I mean I ethics. You shouldn't smoke period. I think that's true, so I guess you could say that in keeping with I would say you shouldn't smoke, impressive, yegg, apparently arm they make not good for milk milk production at it diminishes milk production, yes, it practical level when I do in any favours the amount of vitamin c present in present in your breast milk. It can truth nausea in the bay. That alone has said. Yes, employers, not to mention a few actually smoking around the baby right come on. There and then there's that woman in Arizona to remember her

No, the mom who got it just hugely massively in trouble because he took her baby. Did a hospitals something's wrong with my baby and the doctors tested unrelated weird your baby has largely cocaine and system right now. I am any idea: why have you been doing cookie will ya did but I'd what's that got to do with my baby right now you breastfeeding and choose. I guess I am here. While you pass the cocaine on your baby The old days of walking around baby undress with a cigarette in one hand and a scotch on the other in a bumper cooking. You knows these days are long gone. We know these are over. We know better. At this point I was not breastfed by the way, I'm pretty sure, I was actually now that you say that I'm not now, I feel secure TAT year, my mama, you actually told me this just like in the last six or eight years, even I like her,

did you know agreed? How did she tell you? I don't remember, and I was on my birthday guard perfectly happy birthday. And by the way I remember it just came up, and I got another, she said you know she, our third kid didn't have a lot of help from mine so she was managing a three year old in a six year old and I think rough time breastfeeding my brother, kissing my brother said she just wasn't, organise enough. There are now and stroking out. It's got, though, that would write out a coward have been like you're doing it all wrong. Let me hand expresses related earthly myself had a rough time, breastfeeding Scott and then I think, just sorted decided. I yeah. I got too much go on go with the formula yeah, maybe Jack, and It was also at a time in the The seventies like starting in the fifties through,

seventies and eighties, even to a certain degree, there was a your move toward formula feeding, oh yeah, and away from breastfeeding, as the notion was like this science has finally figured out, you don't need to breastfeed right, because we have this wonderful new. Called formula right which, in formula described me up, that's what it's called right, that they did. Give some name. I know it's like the most generic clinical term. They could have come and hey. We came up with this formula that member express milk. What we it formula the originally called formula acts, but they thought those two sinister. That makes more sense. Even he headed the formula like hey, we get this new recipe for chicken. What he call it recipe give point anyway, but their whole that home push starting in. Previous to the fifties will talk more about impart to, but there's a lot of push back. That came

as a result of this sum trend towards formulas right get in there, Chile groups that are called lacked of his troops here, Adam started, beginning with the letter league, which was established in the fifties in the states among a group of Catholic MA, yeah who decided that it was their birth there biblical right, biblical heritage to breast feed, their babies, and I thank them. What God wanted them to do. It I take league is still around. Today is one of the most prominent lack. The risk groups around there are very active in in you know look. Awareness teaching breastfeeding class is all that stuff, but they grew out of this group of Catholic moms in the fifties. Firstly took their name for my arm. A shrine down Jacksonville airily, yet the general afforded Jackson, The name of the shrine is called new. Esther

Senora, daylight, J, a boy in part through which means our lady, be delivery and plentiful milk year. They stir in nineteen fifty eight, a very famous pamphlet called the womanly ardor breastfeeding. That eventually became a book, and it was very, very popular now in six languages and its eighth edition, and also in the seventies Diana had rose before He said there were other groups that where a little bit more hip Then that the l L the came out she said, notably one in Bonn. Then you know the name of this one: I dont know that they had a name the early they create a day. Ass were the movement yeah, they wrote a book called our bodies ourselves right and that was does basically the the phone. Asian fur. What she calls the second wave of lack of ism, yeah- and she said they were just she said- Quote- were more groovy types than the l, L, L, moms, saucy genes,

the mandate holding back their waste linked hair She said, but the two movements grew out of the common restoration and anger of this condescending. Of establishment tat paternalistic. Informing of Judge Mental Group of men basically courageously to stir. We tell you yeah, you don't need ask questions, distrust. The pretty much in these groups came out said you know what these are. Our bodies and our decisions, I dont, think Beer aids in milk production they so they took their. They're well, I guess there there womanly arc of breastfeeding there and they they they kept it. They took it back the Yankee back. Yes, and so the lad activism has always had this kind of tinge of a more authority because of their religious routes of though, totally yes and nickel ism, because it was

waves, came counter to the medical abolition of the time you so there one of them a lot of understanding of breastfeeding is not necessarily based on accurate scientific information right Yes, we already talked about how the the benefits of breastfeeding are fairly relative But there is also a lot of like Miss Mason or misunderstanding about how like what breast. In breast milk can do for developing baby yeah. There's a lot of correlative effects that it's tough to put the hard science behind, chasm as PAN arose says. It's tough to do is really ideal study, because what you would have to do for the standards civic rigour would divide up to groups of mother

and say you breastfeed, you don't write and then measure the outcomes for years, and he can't do that. You can't a woman to breastfeed for the sake of his study. So what doing as they just look it observational studies, were they look at differences in the two populations over the years and, This is where you get that that skewed perception, where you can get a skewed perception because they looking at? U S, mothers of a certain social strata here. There's all sorts of confounding factors that are very what's right that that you know Women who tend to breastfeed these days again tend to be from wealthier family. So they make it You can stay at home more. I have more money available for preventative health care measures, there's a lot of other things that could be accounting for these better health outcomes, that is found but have been able to say. Yes, this is directly because these babies were breastfed.

Problem is: is that these studies that say hey these breastfed babies, Had these amazing This is an I q yeah, that's what gets reported through lazy, civic reporting, it hits the popular media and all of a sudden, that's gospel fact, and if you don't breastfeed your baby, you're a horrible mom year, the certain two thousand seven, the World Health Organization did a survey. All this literature- and they looked at these- that the big five claims about benefit the breastfeeding lowers cholesterol, lowers blood pressure, lowers risk of obesity, lowers risk of type two diabetes and increases to the Billy and they didn't find a lot of hard scientific support for one through four, but they did see like he said there was a correlation between and increase IQ, but they found it was a relatively small increase right. But if you're, those like dog eat dog

all my kid in pre school, before she then born type apparently be like I'll. Take those extra five iq point sure yeah, I'm so this parliament, but before we go check anything else. You know it for part ones. Since we talked about breastfeeding at work and stuff, I feel like we would be remiss if we got did not mention Donald and one of that opposing attorneys Elizabeth, five years ago, he was in a deposition and one of the opposing attorneys Elizabeth back. To what to pop breast milk and this deposition, And he got up and said you disgusting, your disgusting, I got out of the room, and this is a very that completely remember. This was a huge deal or are you, deal.

And what she says: With that from her side said, you know he called me. You know there's nothing to discussing about You can't say that all women whose breastfeeding you're doing whatever no matter where it is, and then trump in his or council. What's his name, Alan Garden, they contain like sure he said she was disgusting he said, but like they did deny. That is about the will. Not about breastfeeding, they said that she was in a deposition right in the middle of a deposition. This quote. New breastfeed the pump in the middle of a deposition with five lawyers and was not excusing Herself- and he claimed that back orchestrated start because she The questions didn't know what to do, and so she dislike pull this breast pumping the old Prescott, so

Now those are the two sides of the story. I'm not gonna come at one where the other harm other than saying ever use. The word disgusting when a woman is Nuremberg. Beating her pumping or anything that our armoury president one president issues. They are you not lay out what the circumstance dont say that, even if you, if you think it's an appropriate I'm gonna say whether you know my way and on that, but if you think it's Interpol, it then you say: hey! Maybe ethics is inappropriate, don't say you're disgusting, not not right. I agree. Mrs click cause I'm gonna get on this one and that is feeding your baby part one, and this one is robust, yeah, that's his part one so be sure to join us for part to do it. Listener. Mailers these things so thoroughly can join that they can't be separated by listener. Male. Airbus was Schiphol surveillance on per capita,

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