Science fiction writers have made some amazingly accurate predictions over the years, but in 1945 the pace of technological change created a field that spun off of sci-fi forecasting, futurology.
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Welcome to stuff. You should know how stuff works, not welcomed by gets done. Josh Clark, those Charles, the bright and Jerry fear that you should know from the future, but I do it, I'm fine, we'll good, that's good! I enjoyed the staffing of those gonna meet. Yet
It was funny like when you reading about future ology empty geologists, a teacher you attended one to me.
Like more than it actually is? And when you look into the topic it keeps having to be beaten down this because of the name alone. Yet some I get a little bit like it. Why could do a work? It is a Europe uterus, Astir there
and you know these sometimes there thinking about their using these. These really neat techniques to predict the future
they're talking, wasn't really mundane stuff, yet boring stuff economic forecast, things like that, how much oil
less than thirty years at anything, then, on the other hand, if your future I'll just you may also be tasked with figuring out what technology we're gonna be using in thirty year ever
in a word, what what? What color the shiny jumpsuit
we're all gonna. Where were you that kind of stuff? You think I want him
favorite things is to look at past future predictions. Yet
yeah, there's nothin it'll make someone look less knowledgeable and going back to what they thought:
you would look like in the year two thousand right, like back in the nineteen, thirty or forty or sometimes some those things happen in the then it's amazing yeah, that's like while you know, could suddenly Judas these guys are like
really really dead on- and I was reading in article I thinkers and Harvard Business review- and it was a post five
all Sappho, who runs a venture capital firm, I believe called discern yet and pulse effort was saying like he was he's trying to get across that sigh, FI, authors and future all adjusts. Their paths
relax quite a bit, but really this pretty big distinctions, and even in this article they got lumping together because I fight writers do definitely use future ology techniques, but parts have always saying like near, but a real future. All you have to use logic where right, if you're safe hierarchy
is your mandate to back it up with anything. You have your greater ology. You have to use logic that makes sense to whoever is hearing your prediction yet
think. That's one reason why some safe, I writers of,
been right on the nose with some future predictions because they're not hampered by logic, and they can just free form, but then it's just a lucky guess none of them. So I think they're still applying a lot of the same rules of future ology here, but there is not bound by certainly now that the laws of the laws but middle laws of logic. Yet exactly I'm with you, but that's the best science fiction, I think, is
in that logically makes sense yeah. But then it is this fantasy industry. So few geology is recognising in assessing potential future events,
I could have sworn Jonathan stricken wrote this by the way read, but it was not no restriction desk, Nicholas Service, yeah, that's Strickland, alter ego, wonder
I've never met this Nicholas Service, but the point Girgis makes, which I think is good- is it a product of our times in many cases like, depending on where we are as a society and like the he makes a great point during the civil war, their problem, where a lot of like rosy predictions for the Future Americans aboard ship, but in the gilded age, people out more optimistic optimistic, so they may have the sole differ deal like during the cold war, for instance, what paranoia lot of cynicism? Probably not gonna, be a rosy outlook for the future.
Right like during the gilded age, when it was rosier way more optimistic than the cold war, which is kind of ironic, because the gilded I didn't have anything to be optimistic about their just pretending. Hence the name. Now the thing is what you just said: those is kind of an argument against future ology, because one of the big critiques of it is there,
trousers then do anything even if you're commenting on the past or the future, we are still really.
Meaning about your present your contemporary time, because that's what you or recent past sure that's what you some from what you ve lived through an experienced. That's all you
really reflect on is as yet in future. Ology seeks to go beyond that. Well, yeah that make sense of what you are
look at this thing that is happening now or just happened. Then what is going to be happening in that thing in ten years right and it's it's a lot of times based on how the direction is currently going. Yes, okay, so the nervous makes a pretty good gives the good example that the cell phone grew out of the telegraph which ultimately is related further back to.
Smoke signal sure right. But if you're a future I'll just hanging out around somebody who is sending spoke signals, would you be able to predict the cellphone probably night or not? Could you pay?
the impact of the automobile or the highway system. Right maybe, but would you predict that people would have said
the back seat of a car, because it aims to provide little well that they did
or sprawl. Yet, could you predict Ex Serbs, then edge cities just because the highways got built
not a lot of people did, even though a lot of people said, there's going to be horseless carriages one day,
and it's gonna they're, going to change things big time. People are gonna, be able to move around a lot more, but then
doesn't mean that everybody saw every result of the automobile it was a game. Changer is has what you could do, so
what we are saying here and if it sounds a little weird that were at once supporting and criticising feature algae that basically the fun thing to do. When you talk about future biology, is to criticise it and be odd by because a lot of times they really are super right, that's right
Future ology has been around for a long time
I mean there, since people were writing fiction, there were people predicting the future, but as far as
things- didn't really get going as far as being meaningful until after world war. Two, when the? U S, started developing technological forecasting, basically like it, was really important to try and see where things were going militarily racked with super expensive to develop. New technologies could take a long time, so they started thinking hey. We need to get some people on board that can climb.
Hopefully predict where we're headed here, so we can make the right decisions yet because if it takes a really long time, like you said to develop a weapon by the time
that weapon in deployed in the field you're gettin me,
No, it's not already obsolete right. The only way to do that is to predict what kind of work
You're gonna be engaged in, because this is a time like at the end of world war. Two so many events.
Came at a world war, one in two air machine inventions that things were changing so quickly that there is actually you can kind of put modern future all
Gee into the lap of one guy and Airforce General named half Arnold, who saw that things were changing so fast that his air force needed to basically predict the future and see what direction it needed a girl right. So he looked round. He started tapping people to do that. One of the first people tat. Is it
scientists and aeronautical engineer, name Theodore VON Carmen? Yes, he was a super smart dude and he let a team that did predict a lot of stuff like drones and, as far as you know, the military's and drowns, not your uncle, who flies it around. The neighbourhood practised a film stuff. He predicted
the rise of books than target seeking missiles, supersonic aircraft and even the atom bomb
All of this was in one report. Yet half Arnold like this is like in this guy knocked out of the park, but he and his group were very
its limited to small academic and military circles, like the general public, was unaware that this is going on, but the eaten his group VON Karmann group so accurately foresaw the direction,
the that modern warfare was going here, that you can vary
also very easily make the case that no, he basically created a road map for the future. That therefore followed, so is his prophecy. Were self fulfilling yet because he said go this way and therefore went that way increase
all this stuff yeah and then there are the military
Well, that's the brand corporation. Specifically, it grew out of the: U S AIR Force and Douglas aircraft. In the mid forties, they said well having one person to say these things is great, but what we need is a team and a consensus among the steam, so they kind of while not kind of they very much patented a technique called Adelphi technique. De L p h I, and that is basically a technique where they're trying to get
agreed on consensus from a number of people. So there's this is very famous story about how they
Navy, I think losses, a submarine and nuclear submarine or the Russians had lost the submarine something
There is a loss of that they want to define and
They had no idea where it was so. The navy pulled all these different, different experts in all these different fields. Them I have something to do with nuclear submarines. Whether yeah
aeronautics people from Noah all these people write and asked them. Where do you think the service and no one hit on the nose, but when they, when they basically use dumb statistical distribution of these various opinions, yeah gases of professionals, it led them right to that's up and that's what they Delphi technique does too. If it takes opinions of experts in various fields
and says what do you think of this and everybody sends into question air and not anonymous Lee and there's no group meeting. So the Arab doesn't bout, a pressure, no leaders emerge they're, giving their
unvarnished opinion and then, after the those opinions come in there, they they take their information.
Send it out again, so it goes in round and round and round until they finally come to a group consensus that in
future we are going to be wearing metallic blue jumpsuits
yeah and what they're doing is generating, what's known as a scenario and Ganem Herman Con, ok, h and worked with Rand end, the nineteen fifty's
Is the one that kind of coin the term scenario as it applies to future ology. A pretty good definition I found was scenario, is a detail portrait of a plausible future world one sufficiently vivid that a planner can clearly see and comprehend the problems, challenges and opportunities that such
environment would present. So it's it's. You know it saying now.
The future we're gonna, have a scenario where they're gonna be robots in every house, yelled in one of the biggest ways that they work on scenarios is. I was something called back casting which is still
at the end, which, as you got a robot in every house and then go backwards. The house
out there yet how we, how yet their brilliant there make sense here and scenarios, that's a pretty cool scenario. They can
b as mundane is running a fire drill.
Where you're envisioning the fire broke out in the high school Jim right, and so everybody needs to get up. That's it that's a scenario. It's as simple, as that there, the the weather forecasts are economic.
Forecasts that are run through computer algorithms, computer ugly.
The model, the process that is going through
is the scenario in its bits of a possible prediction. Its honestly erected then cause right, yeah, yeah, yeah excellently put. Thank you
so Herman Con worked with random and he did you. Look him up euro area he's one of inspiration for Dutch Strangelove yeah. He was described as a super genius.
Yeah. He was super smart and he he kind of was a bit of a celebrity
time? He wrote a book in nineteen sixty one,
on thermonuclear war.
And then went on to form. I left ran to form the Hudson Institute where he basically was like we're a group that is going to forecast the future
soon he became. It was like super popular book here and spend a lot of other books, similar books. We need to take a break power or didn't will get right back,
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so check your disagree about Herman Con being the super genius. Who is something of a sailor
de I read that Timothy Leary intimated that he had taken acid with him. I believe he was part of the inspiration for doktor strange up and this book that he wrote called
the year the year, two thousand a framework for speculation on the next thirty three years? Yet it basically establish this outlook that that America and capitalism could do anything thanks to basically technological inventiveness, yeah hears it. Let's hear some of these. There was a list in that book, one hundred technical innovations very likely in the last third, the twentieth century, a hundred some of the first ten multiple.
Locations of lasers, boom, high strength, structural materials nailed it when you they lowered
new or improved materials for equipment and appliances. Man, it's not easy, and you could say that
let me better material predict right now for a twenty fifty
longer wage longer range, whether forecasting more reliable, whether forecasting honor, but now I think that was
about this here, you're, a few of the other ones, new techniques for cheap and reliable birth control for sure yeah that fill the pills round
We should do it they made in the same year because it came out of sixty seven was it
you of this book came on sixty seven rain right, widespread use of nuclear reactors for power. The improved gave a believed, a change sex of children or adult gender reassignment. We did a great episode on that. Pervasive business use of computers, the other all over personal
Jesus, if he had the came away and then the one or the other ones was home computers to run households and communicate with the outside world gather internet of things. They also predicted em the rise of the credit economy, a really that we currently our end
trusting yeah. So there was just like a list. I guess I've are basically in the work in this book
the whole. The whole idea that America,
capitalism in the West could invent its way out of any problem we possibly ran across in the future? Was this the premise of the position of this book and it caused enormous fear, yet in academic circles, and not just academic circles, because then this book was one of the first to introduce the public that there were
things is think tanks like Rand there and, where Club of Rome here, and that these people were sitting there. Thinking about the future and were writing
about China became a hit thing. The club of Rome was basically diametrically opposed to the the outlook that Herman Car had and the club of Rome was a business consortium.
The conspiracy theories say, is basically the seat of the new world order. There's around, they are and the club
this in no way where we are establishing the gloom and doom camp that there is such a thing, is resource, depletion, overpopulation and we are,
sickly doomed yeah. I mean we ve. We ve covered this allowed on the show different people that have made while predictions about we're gonna.
This by this year on her mouth is very malthusian one of the books. It came out of the club of Rome and nineteen. Seventy two was
limits to growth by Noah, H, meadows, Dennis Meadows, european, renders and whim barons at MIT,
and they had a very dire apocalyptic outlook of the future as it a lot of other people at the time, and a lot of these were way off phase.
A lot of these dire prediction? Threat will have an over and over again, and so I may, on the club of Rome- was website.
Defend the the limits to growth in a
the growth the year, the limits to growth book, basically saying that it often
Miss cited as predicting the collapse of civilization, yeah, I'm due to a renewable resource over use by any, doesn't do that, but they did use the same kind of techniques there,
Herman Khan and some of his other colleagues were coming up with vice by taking population information, food production day,
terrestrial production pollution and non renewable resource consumption and then run
scenarios through this model that they built using computers right and coming up.
The scenario they came up with were a kind of grim. The thing
This is even though they missed the mark. They still helped to establish,
a very young idea tat week. We can't just a kid. You threw me
of styrofoam on the ground, re can't drive a car that gets two miles per gallon right. We can't live like everything is just forever abundant that there's no such thing as scarcity
it's a double edged sword, though I totally agree, but then it also when you're wrong about these things. It gives cynics something
due to their we'll see.
Didn't run out of oil in the early nineteen eighties. Like you said, we were
and we know why do anything about it. Yeah I mean men. There is a great point if it's a very great point, but at the same time or you're, seeing here between the limits to growth and the year two thousand. They we still see this today with climate change
you know! It's like! Let's do something about climate change, the other people say no
can invent our way out of it and besides, if we do something about climate change, it's gonna recipe, economy, right and these people are saying forget about the
we're all going to die here or none, so it forget about the economy, but maybe you can do both right yeah. You know my whole deal with that has always been wiped. My take that risk, or do we humans are very good at like
caring for future risk, which is, I think, one of the reasons why future ology, Sir so revered in an odd but also mocked and scorned, because they're doing something that's almost almost flies in the face of human nature. Yes, you really put yourself out there
when you predicts office there is one other episode that they just remind me of the ten thousand your clock. Earlier. I have a great one.
So the military, the United States military, obviously has used it for years,
then beginning with us in the sixties were seventies that business got into it. So in nineteen, seventy two
who, I think Royal Dutch, shall again heard somebody at the top heard. That
there was going to be any oil in by nineteen eighty five and they went off. Your business is basically said, wait a minute, their people that can actually use models to determine what the future might look like right here
We use that make money. What's throw money animal find out exactly a couple of other places to that that were nascent, think tanks in a grand was Stanford Research Institute, features group in the California Institute of Technology. Tat early light can a think tank breeding grounds to smart people. Walker, I think about the future, but there wasn't enough. You can't just
say. This is what I think it's gonna be like you have to back it up and we'll talk about how they back at a prayer. For this
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four enjoy. Have they back it up? Well, they use different techniques of your future future.
You're gonna be using techniques there dumb are pretty recognisable, but the way you put him together and the things you sort out is what's going to make a successful or not successful. Writes a year. You like brainstorm ideas here. This party, where you start yeah he's just like blue sky territory,
they say: yeah, you I'm imagine things using scenarios or games apparently game theory, but we gotta do that at some point. Yeah I've been
waiting so like weeds amendment. We could method up really bad, but will do it that changed the future ISM feel tremendously when they came up with game theory, because it
pretty good way of predicting how people work and that's one of the big confounding factors is. You can predict,
follow every single one of these steps. There were talking about right now and then people just cut to the left, all of a sudden and your predictions is fell to the wayside, because humanity went this way real, quick ear or somebody invented a game changer again changing product or innovation that nobody saw coming. New ethical, disruptive technology: is it good I like that, not a bad bending. I wonder if its other, if it's
the matters like Silicon Valley, rich guy, is like my side band right. Do you want to gather professional opinions using say the Delphi technique?
Are you gonna? Do historical analysis? Sure current trends are very huge and can help you as well and then, like you, were saying, I think you call it back masking now. Let's turn me: I'm dead men from the vandals, yet a thirty day they listen to the Beatles backwards.
Work. What was it the thought back masking, I know, but where they were you in vision, a future, and then you work your way backward from it. When you do this, you, you do other stuff together again that cast back castor
and when you, when you're, using this, along with them, computer algorithms, that can model like the economy or the weather oil consumption, or something like that, you can come up with something that you could rightly say is a prediction are forecast for the future. Where we're going to be a try again, though, things happen like, for example, Herman, Con,
predict the the oil crisis that came the year after he wrote another famous book in eighteen. Seventy two, he wrote a response, I think dilemmas,
growth and is totally miss the oil crisis near. But how could he predict that? Because the oil crisis came out of the
pack oil embargo, that was punishment for the. U S is being him,
did the Yom Kippur war. He can see that come in now and that's the big problem of future algae
Yes, exactly our own. U S. Government has been wrong, the? U S, department of Interior announced twice
eighteen, thirty, nine and then in nineteen. Fifty one that we are
had thirteen years of oil left so weird that both times it was thirteen years do then owing to bother people. So they wait.
Others. Thirteen years lesson they sounds our cities, such as specific number,
What else? Well, we we thought about Moors law before that, his age, the little better than some other future Ology predictions, because it has been revised over the years, which is sort of achieve
a little bit, but still what I really meant were right. This is, I think you are from eighteen months, the two years something like that, but that what's funny is girl. Mistakes is pretty
in this article is saying, like the limits to growth in the
club of Rome stuff. They missed the mark because they predicted catastrophe. Yeah amours law predicts technological innovation, so it successful so clearly
this agrees with the hermit con group, rather aim at the Club of Rome group. That don't think it said. I think you were you can't you stay like that. The gloom and do
Camp is distinct. Completely eradicated were proven wrong. The grid Vienna,
yeah more slaughtering think we said specifically, it predicts. The number of transistors on integrated circuits in computers doubles every two years bright and likely said has been updated and it's been pretty consistent
with firming cons, popularity and then the the big high profile book publishing argument that he got him with the club of Rome. Then I did like us
of other future ology books. They, I remember it being a big deal when I was a kid remember: lotta people talking about the near and far future, the one that I ran across in this article.
I had heard of, but I didn't know anything about: Alvin Topless future shock harm over that. I think it does. You read it now that the cover I guarantee you just give you an assault
but he came out. Ninety seven Nina predicts a future where too much rapid change, technological change in advancement. It happens too quickly and people get all sorts of stressed
just worn out and dumb basically have all all manner of terrible reactions to it. My power, I predicted two thousand fifteenth so like a person's emotions, couldn't handle every just overwhelmed. Ok through too much rapid technological innovation happens too. Quick, you think, are overwhelmed
like I get stressed out by like say, social media, or something like that yeah. I wonder if its having label of a certain age, maybe yeah- I guess, if you're born in through you're used to it. So I would prefer
more more likely apply to a transition population like right. The transitional generation is over. We are you, don't you get stressed by social media? Don't you like Tenzin yeah, I'm gonna Canada's hate, it
like having information. All this information, which is so thin yeah content, wiser
value wise, but there's times out of it and it's always come in at you,
where's me out. Where's me out. I got the future shock checking if it gets yet the Jimmy legs here now. I totally agree. I like that, I just wanted to shut it all down to everybody, not podcast affected
live on, so we talked about science fiction writers and how they are easily off the hook, because it is right
right, you're not supposed to predict the future, but they have been you can't. You
is it because they ve been on the money or close to it again:
over the earlier because, like we said, they're not hampered by the rational laws of of
they can say whatever they want in the wrong. I didn't write stuff. Yes, this fiction
but a few, the highlights Jules Verne MID Nineteenth century predicted the go into the moon,
the spacecraft, not only that, so he predicted it would be shot out over a cannon, basically ever done, but the thing that he really got there was there. He he placed the
shot in Florida like a hundred and thirty seven miles from Cape Canaveral, where they do launch rockets to the moon bad now, and for the same way
Two like there was its close to the equator. I was at why it's one of the reasons why plus Kate Canaveral is largely protected by the Gulf stream. Bright from hurricanes like as a hurricane comes ashore right before it starts to get to Canaveral. It goes out again by and then hits North Carolina, interesting,
the interesting conversation to have been an on line when they were picking play like. Where should we launch this me? Where should we put all of our money in right, hd wealth? He predicted tat,
yeah he was zero every supposedly he was the first sky to really think of themselves as a future
he predicted the atom bomb in one thousand, nine hundred and eight aerial bombing in one thousand nine hundred and eight
what does the name? Robot was actually coined by science fiction, writer and check writer name, Carl Capet, an arm and nineteen twenty one he named robots. I think we all time winner, though, is Hugo Burns Bach, an Hugo guarantee fuck if you're into science fiction. You recognize his first name because he's who the Hugo Ward and after you may also recognises last name too
fear he governs back fan, but back and I think the nineteen tens Deanna you wrote. A book called Ralph went to foresee forty one plus he predicted everything in this year.
You know that means it's actually a play on words. One two means one to foresee for one another. Yet it
I am still wants you foresee for one and then another is the plus. I ask that that alone I would solve the cycle of the sky.
Is this like their van here album? I you anyone to exactly so. What does he predicted heap
the solar power. Like the the realistic use of solar power, he predicted plastics video phones, taper quarters, jukeboxes, loudspeakers tinfoil
steel, synthetic fabrics. I let all in one book and he's famous
and then you go words named after him, because he wanted to make science fiction more science based yeah. You know,
I'm using that same logic, so he would have
in a very like almost a father, a feature ology. Oh yeah Fisher. Here's a few other things it from that book. This went to me and surprise: no one's done this, yet the appetizer, which is at a restaurant and in an advanced, scientifically advance restaurant, o B, a room that you wait and before you get your table, that's flooded with gases that make you hungry, I'm not bad to seven.
Sidney Appetizer room right would be ready shortly: bloody fingernails scratch similar while trying to get to the other room where the food is the tiller.
A lotta graph, which is basically a fax machine. They tell a fight which was a picture phone
a universal translator where they translate any language right there. On your in your hand, yeah, not bad
and then this when I love the vacation city, was aid suspended city in the dome suspended city, twenty thousand feet in the air that use the device it now, if I'd gravity and invocation city, no mechanical devices are permitted because
supposed to be a true escape the thoughts from the mechanized world waiting for Thou on, and this was
Nineteen eleven near he predicted just that there would be a need for that
that's like that town in NAM, West Virginia Green. Something was reading. Your word that people who have worked on magnetic sensitivity go because you're not allowed to have any electromagnetic stuff really cause is like a radio telescope, others something there now Bianca be interfered with HIV arms. Can you just be amish like I wanna be amish if your Harrison for you could be or Woody Allen right. You anything else about these predictions for the future. There's a couple in here: they're kind of funny, tin predictions. It missed the mark, and these are real predictions in nineteen sixty seven. U S news and will report said that by the end of the century, we will launch our freight across the continent with missiles my you order something from him.
On a New York. Instead of having a fulfilment centre nearby right, they just put it in a missile and shoot it do you know I didn't happen, I'm no boat drones or coming really. Are they still on that? Probably I nineteen fifty five, a guy named Alex Louis predicted nuclear power vacuum cleaners. This one, I think, would be pretty green.
Dissolving dishes and asked what would be like in the two thousand
right name while the mare come forth, the lot of, and one two three four five, because the family
science rather with the funding they continents in a row. He said you,
basically put your plate and two hundred
the degree water at the end and origins dissolve it. No more dishwashing Bucky Fuller predicted that Canada would be a sub tropical climate because we ve built dome over it. Nothing happened now. I didn't, which is strange, because Bucky Fuller was pretty sharp. Do I use another? One was really you're. Buckminster fuller! Oh, I didn't pick up on that. He's? U Bucky Ballroom named after really
I may have invented a monitor what the monkey boy, it's the those little balls that are magnetic spheres that, like now they're sleeping, I am lucky Bosnia,
We want a scottish geneticists. That said in the nineteen twenties that in the future, one third of the babies
Would not be born of only one third would be borne as a result of pregnancy and the other babies would be born in a lab. Would they be grown? Basically Exo Genesis here, here's last when security, nineteen, seventy five, the Research Institute of America, it sounds pretty smart
said that by nineteen thirty five, I'm sorry. This is several years before that we
I'll, be driving personal helicopters. Did our pan out.
Probably never will. I don't know if I'd want to personal helicopter, you know I was for Emily's birthday. I rented a cabin in the North George mountains, cigarettes in a helicopter there now, but I was sitting on the deck we all were in way across the valley on the side of the mountain. Was this huge huge house- and I heard a sound of a helicopter- owes like an assault blinking light. I got up binoculars in this. Dude had a helicopter while and he took it and he flew at down about two miles to the lake at the bottom of the valley, and not, I guess he has a lake house and a mountain house in the easy way to get there is to make the four minute helicopter flight had crazy idea, we'll how's pretty amazing wow. I want to do that. Guy's then that guy could be a lady yak. What am I saying can be Carly fearing that she's, the the
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Personal helicopter look an awful lot like that, I'm sure footed.
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