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stop. You should know from house networks not paid work under the progress and judge card would throw to reach a bride, Jerry Foods and chalk. Yet we had done him stopped before their relates. Is high preachers concert bribery? How Mcdonald works twinkies work here I bet. There's probably I can't be our Zeus good about brain. Does your grandfather's diet effect? You yeah, true, that you know they junk food might end what yeah. So you, the future grandfather listening today, your screwing up your green,

its health right now, that's right, Phyllis hinder epigenetic Siberia. Junk food is ubiquitous now than it was in my grandparents. No no, they had lain lame diet, yeah here of of whole food on these natural thing. Well, that's something that this article I thought was smart to point out that back in the day, before junk food. It don't mean everybody with this evening. Light hippies, or something like that. They were just these wonderful, like wholesomest that every meal or something like that they like cried or they ate the scene, thing or there are plenty of time through their like. I will kill you fur tomato right now in the grave winner. I'm tired of eating this forty and state covered and gravy exactly every night yeah. But they did not have access to mass produced really

fundamentally unhealthy food like we do today attract and that's the definition of junk food. Really that's right! Junk food you might have heard of like empty calories. That's what junk food is. Its food either zero or very little nutritional value, but has calories, but as a ton of gas. Usually in the form of carbs, which is usually shot of way more energy than you need, yeah that don't stick its tasty with domestic others. Donut sticks. What is it that the dislike it exactly what it sounds like now? if a little Debbie device. Oh oh yeah, another! Ok, so

shot and energy device. Very rarely do you need like a shot of energy like that, especially when you're going to sit down in front of your computer for three hours straight now. Don't need that. So what happened to that energy is, it gets translated into fat stored, is fat and just as bad, you don't get any traditional value from whatsoever it doesnt, contain dietary fibre. Usually no, it doesn't hurt, have any of it minerals are vitamins that your body needs to like mount immune response, north and even worse, is we'll talk about later. It's entirely possible is contributing to things like a mental ill health. Sure in you, the mental health, physical health, because we're talking package, sweet goods talking soft drinks

baked good, salty stuff man, stuff loaded with that of a good thing, all the good things right. I'd like when we researching this, I was like I wanted donor right now, I'm gonna go get it down it, yeah, maybe I'll get like a make griddle or something like. I just wanted everything I even thought maybe I'll get a root, beer somewhere or even know where to get a root beer, but I was gonna, try and find what you re very get any other sort of an eye for why? I guess you probably could this what I was going

was brought home to say I have personal experience buying group, the er anywhere I gotta get with this article. Did you know I mean I gotta get you some of your good stuff. You stick with me afterwards, there I'll, introduce you thanks man, you gotta meet him first, but yeah, it's all good, yes, bad stuff, so a sock about jointly decide whether history, I guess, is it some. It's pretty interesting in the likelier same before before the dawn of the nineteenth century, people eight food, mostly from stuff that they grew or harvested, was a process that much in big changes came around when the industrial revolution hit and all of a sudden people could get cheap flower. That was the big turning point. The big in point because flower in your home right and the story junk food Essentially the story of the industrial innovation of food like before we had food. There was

free, like caramels, were introduced by the Arabs, probably about a thousand years ago, some somewhere around their chocolate and for a very long time cookies. They there they do, who found a keeper Mr Taylor, he had a bakery in the early nineteenth century, like people were making stuff, there wasn't good for you, but they were making it and it was a pain in the neck to make it yeah. So we're making it all the time you couldn't go anywhere and get it, and that is inherently the problem with junk food today. Is it everywhere in its cheap in its easy to get here, and there were There are a lot of other factors that contributed to the rise of junk food. Besides industrialization people move the cities and away from farms, and

if you're living in the middle of New York, city and eighteen hundred do not have a big farm. Let us farming your backyard, so long canned, let us say you can win before his habit. Civil war during one another can well. We too can when I was a kid, I think and feel that story dizzy. Yeah my mommy sitting in the gallery, incomes, if we carry on like the really well, where is the country with the captain? Carry over like of memorial drive so dislike the facilities you needed to can your own stuff, yet that's pretty name- and you could show up with your gun being right near peaches, and you could cannot stop the I've ever and what I do it alone can stuff pickled things are very, very good for you, yeah things in the cannot necessarily terrible for you.

You know and when you think can't like hands were not involved it I'm guessing like glass jars were now we can't silver can't. Oh you mean that a serious step that pretty cool you like a Steinbeck family or something I don't remember it was awful as a kid now I would totally get into it, but back then it was the most boring place on earth forget to be wrong. Tire stores the most boring place on earth were to be wrong fabric store. Ah I will say a fairy stories have lived there. I have seen men and I tweeted about this. You mean I was with every stir the other data I was looking around like what are some of you people doing in here earlier. There were the fabrics, people, ok, a lot of I would not have expected are in sewing and, like I'm like, ok, everybody says like the entire. Spectre of humanity was represented in this fabric, store, whether demean they so necessary

No, they were searching for fabrics and like looking In comparison to other fabrics, these they also well, but it does just because you buy fabric that mean you, so they could upholsterer. Ok that's too many thousands hurry. It is one of the industrial art on its own. True, I think of upholstery is sowing to an extent, even though these are sowing evolved necessarily and these people better have been opposed to any attempt to their pink voleur leopard fabric that they bought. The fabric stores are pretty amazing. When you go and like the stuff, you can tell us been sitting on the shelf since, like nineteen seventy five year, my mom, you take me to the fairest herself I have noted it. I didn't like it either, but it wasn't like attire store to me like getting tired, but on your yeah, because not only is there nothing for you to do as a kid except like run your hand over the little prickly things, I'm new tyre sure the smell in their dear made. It is even worse,

and unless you're entered reading like car driver magazine, then you're bad luck, Yelp drink it, bad coffee, this restarted drinking coffee and early to kill the boredom so waiter. We agreed that the tire stores the worst of all else, you're really. For me it was a fabric store, but I'd sure have bad memories of the tourist or in the country. Man. That was a good one, but seven seven minutes higher. Sometimes I dragged out right back to them Can civil war oh another The fast food and junk food became, and those are two different things we should point out fast. Food is always food no empires vendor to Paul. I can tell you that now it yesterday ass, they tried to do right, Greystock near which they're, not Mcdonald's, associating where you know that right now, I don't understand why Mcdonald's divested crystals

are going through the roof? If I'm not mistaken, AAA was like. I wanted the separation. I I would guess me thousand ability s behind my tons of shares of you, yeah yeah, I'm not sure how they went down to your trouble, getting them for two polina and make thousands in big trouble. I will be very surprised if there's not Mcdonald's. Fifty years No, no, I don't think that, but they decide their big quarterly pow and they're they're all pretty scared noon. I know like there right now. Their money is away down. Their profits are way now right because, like five guys and all these other burger chains, the deaf

Leading into their market share near the problem is, as Mcdonald's is true, is changing after everything right now rather go yeah. This is what we do, and this is why people come to a final dear. I don't wanna go to make. If I go to Mcdonald's is because I'm hung over a quarter bound exactly I don't wanna of MC fresh rap right in it. You don't even want something at the level I've guys like you, want down Geraghty Mcdonald S, familiar tax and the sooner Mcdonald's realises that that's what people want from a thousand says he go if you wanna come get it untasted have landed artists and girl chicken. That's what I'm saying I get. What is that? That's, not ok! The summit, Mcdonald's well, plus there. What this curbing about it. As you see the commercial sing, now it's better quality Chicken Baba and its is. Emitting, like other chickens, look like mutant like what were you given us before the orange still

in the other men american civil war right. I forgot where there again in the civil war troops started eating rations. For the first time, little easy, the Eet canned process, garbage basically merely this is how I gotta get hooked on it and when they came back, they wanted the same, familiar taste and that sort of how fast food grew. Food vendors started. You no parking cards that set of factories and stuff and that that is sort of like the first fast food chain will not just that. That's where diners came from those food carts there were packed up.

I'd for people coming off of like the night shift or whatever. When all the restaurants were closed, they eventually took the wheels off an added like seeding inside and that's where the diners originally came from and, of course, that all came about because of the suburban sprawl and the birth of the automobile right. Let's talk about a few of these. You found this great article on em. Well, the car. Near times. Yes, but what was the architect of? I don't remember. What it was covered is now raise the great men of junk food. Yes, that's great women, so they list some of the early, some of the first junk food in the United States and the first snappy junk food. They credit is being cracker, jacks introduced at the world's fair in eighteen. Ninety three by the brothers, Freddy

Louis or Louis Rue crime, and you know crackerjack this delicious store under that right in and the the thing with crackerjack again, there was recipes like that in existence prior to crackerjack, right you're, saying with karma same with chocolate people. The stuff, but what the rocking brothers did was they took it. They figured out a way to produce it on a larger scale, get sell it, and- and this is one of the hallmarks of junk food. They figured out a way to market it effectively little prize. That's exactly right that basically establish the rule book for junk food from then till now,

yeah, the Tutsi roles, another good example in nineteen o five. There was candy before that, but this is the first one to be individually wrapped in other, didn't come in a packet of six or eight right. So you could take a penny. Little shiny, copper, penny here and you could get. It said Cyril and radiant. Have they pick the hair off of the first? It was rapid individually, that's right I tend to anti three us like the story and eleven year old named Frank apparition left on a cold night in San Francisco left his powdered soda drink with a stirring stick in the cup came out and examples frozen

in eight it. He said this is amazing. I'm gonna wait twenty years and then Patten this, and not quite twenty years by eighty years later, he basically applied for a patent and call them epicycles. Those like you. Efforts are needed in this gender and set a pop wanted to common popsicles, and so the popsicles born in his children a result penny of that money. Another junk food did they not, what about the you know much about potato chips now, so we could see here for hours and hours and do this has every junk food has a great origin story. Theirs it there's a book that did this force is called the encyclopedia junk food and fast food here and it's an academia die either. You, which is basically apparently they upload books onto this thing, and you can read em neat

yeah. So I'm potato chips. The legend goes that it was invented in the eighteen. Fifty sincere token New York by guy a shifting, George Crew, I believe and dumb that such who they ve been around for at least thirty years before that area, but that's a popular story and am around the eighteenth. It is eighty seventies eighteen, eighty people started manufacturing Oman Mass, but they were delivered in barrels in the customers would come and be like I brought my own brown paper bag shovel some chips in this year and I ll go home a warm up and they'll be stale, and so the part of the mass commercialization of this junk food was the figure had a package in preserving their. They didn't go stale people enough to bring their own bag from home to go by potato chips egotist by the bag and take it home why it took until

I think thirty's to figure out how long was that? What is the eighteen? Eighty six, I were really started to sell, took like fifty years to get him package for nuclear, interesting so did so to drink soft drinks. Soda pop pop folk, spinning away from you're gonna call it something different that goes back the seventeenth century. Europe, when they had carbonated water mix with lemon juice and honey. And many years later and tea in seventy six. Seven eleven introduce the world to the big gulp yeah, which was thirty two ounces of of nasty, and then a nineteen eighty eight. They said how about doubling down on that they created the double the gulf and then Mare Bloomberg was like no. No, they get rid of those in need.

They tried to yearly. Definitely try to add another went through in New York City. Yet am I still drinks the diet, Coke, the Gulf every day and dislike you just can't do that yourself, yeah, there's gotta be something really really wrong with it. It has to be to live with you right science like him, one concentrated formula yet, but what's funny is coke, petty hires reappear doctor they all started out as elixir tonics yeah there were sold at the pharmacy. That's right! That's what got those originally and then they became one of the most ubiquitous unhealthy drinks on the planet. All so we talk What about we get like you? So you go on all day talking about the history of different junk food,

more I dont want in Africa. The world's first combination candy bar real chocolate, bull bars before the first Candy bar clerk bar really here, which is, I think, a briefing about better. Is it because it was first rate, and it's like you anyway, They ve got more girls that Turkey is to be called the fruit scold these, because airports and oh I've gotta this is this is very important actually check. This is possibly the mine blur. The pod cast my blowing up so so far or Yos was the knock off high drugs was the original. Nowhere way, how did they get market share? just by tasting way way better. I guess interesting. So Hydrox is like made fun of it. Like I got hydrax when I was a kid cuz they're, a little cheaper, I think

but they were the original ones in Hershey, Orioles was the rival competitor knock off of Hydra? I was shouting. Although measure would have worked in elementary school of people like you can afford areas like this was the original I'll. Have you know it's casting about it? It came first and I can't even get the cookie apart without breaking like the Oreo poor kid aright. So after this break, we're gonna come back and talk a little bit. The science of junk food here's the thing so, Money with Geico was almost better than playing pick up basketball, because there's always that guy who joins your game, he never passes the rock he constantly bricks theories and who completely you and then put his hands up and say no foul, no foul with Geico. It's easy to switch save on car insurance, no

need to fake an ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted, so which, in save with Geiger it's almost better than sports Google cluster first combination, candy, anteater potter through the knock off they were reduced. Created to overcome the rival country square. Stop! I love how you said it quieter affected, maybe check what noted sitting right across religious between money. Although the bubble gum and was pretty cool, the guy in the rear, yeah he invented dead, and before it Bubblegum MRS chewing gum double bubble is very came up with a double bubbles, the first one I think, so it was in that one New York Times article. Yes, there was double bubble yeah and he said that he died with a smile on his face ass. He brought so much joy to children all over the world care about their gentle habit,

all right. So the science of junk food is actually pretty interesting, because it's not just stopped There's nothing willy nilly about it. I know these are hurry, there's a lot of money at stake, so companies through lot of dough into food laboratories. Finding what they refer to is that sweet spot for the bliss point here, the bliss point again, articles really great from New York Times, though, is a different one. That one is called the extraordinary sir. Heads of addictive junk food? I really am very long and very idea, but that both point or the Swedes what they're, after in what you really He about his mouth feel, which we talked about in taste, or now that out more recently, the net, I think as the bars Amber gum, Arabic gave a different mouth feel right right, too thin. Just regular, simple, Sir Yellow train nothin

So I Tito's is one of the more famous junk foods of all time, because it sort of a wonder of science in that it praise upon something called vanishing, caloric density, which basically means you put a cheat. Our achieves puffer achieves do when your mouth and you're gonna shoot a couple times and disk and assorted dissolve in your brain. Does it really register that its even eating calories? That is are you eat an entire baggage cheetah yeah, because we ve evolved to see with their tongues measure with their tongues roughly the color density of a food? Yet because we took the cause run around, they needed to eat efficiently, which means eating as many calories as they could with his little stuff going in their mouth is possible exactly right, so the tongue would learn to detect

fat fat is extremely dense correctly. So I fear you eat a certain amount of fat. You get kind of this nasty. Deal in your mouth. Your mouth feel it's kind of greasy right here and you suddenly realised that you can't eat another bite of this faddy slab of pork fast enough This girl put imagining a big toilet, see slight aside flattered, but you re get sick from it and the reason why does your brain become satiated? So what these food scientists figured out is that the if they can make something basically MEL like a Tito, it tricks your time in the missing the fact that it is really very food and, like you said, you can eat a whole bag of it thanks to them vanishing, caloric density well Other thing they do is like what they are eating,

a cheeseburger here at from a fast food chain, and that has that same fatty feel, but they realize if you serve the the soda with that imbalances, things out. Three don't have that Greece email feel any longer. Exactly so. That's One reason why they sell soldiers vespuccians, that's what value meal comes from its not just like we want to make sure we want to make sure get your monies worth no way. Make sure that you're gonna say I could use another cheeseburger. I'm back you'll want to note a cheeseburger please and they say. Certainly we will happily saw you one of those who see. I don't drink soda. So when I beat fast food, what do you drink? Why? That's strange the liquid? drink up. Not what's your choice. Yes, as is nothing yet even allowed to drink, worry to sit there and dry.

While the Maya sister in law drinks milk with most meal. I grew up like that, like male competes, even air milk and everything here, let me I've got a really discuss thing, milk and broccoli story. They're not gonna, tell bedded roadie come on You really want to hear her. Ok was in war. For those of you with a weak stomach? You really don't want to hear that for a four year I would say: eating broccoli, you're drinking milk at times and probably avoid. Ok, so am I hate broccoli, but I used to really hate brocklehurst and when I was a kid like you just couldn't: leave the table until you're done eating your vegetable that'll trick and we drink milk with every every meal. So I would, I would eat the broccoli were. I would take a bite in it. We touch my tongue for a millisecond and I wash down like half the thing, a milk right. You basically swallowing broccoli whole right, but I'm taking

A half a cup of milk freed swallows. I kept having a drink more milk ETA gets here. This is headed well night. My mom was working shifted the year my dad was in charge of feeding, may dinner, actually respond I got about halfway through my broccoli, drink. God knows how much milk with it. When I took one more by and all of it just came back up on my play, man, and without looking my doubts like looking up to the ceiling while he grabbed my plate is ok, I think that's enough for you and they cleared the plate, and I thought I one see your dad cleared a plate of vomited at food without knowing it now without, like purposely not looking out, ok he's like ok, that's enough, or that was nice of em. It was. I didn't, have to finish my brother, you he was going to say eat it again right. He had broken my faith in my mommy sister. Old, oven, timer member, remember that trick. We don't have time. Most is not it doesn't. What time it is you king get up

gotta watch tv, and if we had like you, get ten minutes to finish a scream means, and I did Derek where we more than I was like own grown, under the bathroom didn't work. Now I thought oh smart. I so jacket is not healthy for you, oh yeah. We tire source, the American Civil WAR, the here or things that can happen. If you eat too much junk food you're going to get Obese, which means you're gonna, have an increased risk of heart disease. You may get type two diabetes and, like you said, with the mental side, you may become depressed because addiction, it has all the characteristics of just like a drug turn alcohol addiction right. You ve been John. It you withdraw from it. You get an increase tolerance from it then am I I have the impression that they have it

get out like that? There really is a certain amount of addiction you can. You can get from eating junk food water and that its basically getting that part that that blood sugar high yeah rush your job off from very quickly and then having to chase after it again right, not chasing the dragon or something like that is, I guess it's called inserted view can display the the signs of addiction from food as well. Much more closely linked as the the connection between junk food and type two diabetes

Yeah Americans consume about twenty two teaspoons of sugar a day s creative on average, a lot of stuff comes from high for those corn, CERT candy, junk food, soft drinks and how that works as your bodies gonna break that down break down this carbohydrates in your blood, sugar is gonna spike, which you know a single episode of your blood. Sugar spiking isn't the biggest the on the world, but when you repeatedly do that to your pancreas, it's gonna have basically tyre out and her out those insulin, producing cells and triggered type two diabetes right, because when you, when you have glucose in your blood, that's a good thing, because that provides energy to yourself. An insolent comes along and helps open up yourselves, the allow her to absorb the glucose and get it out of your bloodstream right, but after being exposed to this time

Again, yourselves, stop absorbing glucose his well. So yet to produce more more insolent and eventually, like you were saying, the cells tire out your pancreas can produce enough insulin So you always have an elevated level of glucose in your bloodstream. Yeah, that's bad! That's real bad! the nerve damage and blood vessel damage which is associated with type two diabetes and everything from heart disease to foot amputations can result because, like say with your foot, this always fascinated me. I was a. Why would diabetes gear, lady or foot kidding amputated I'll? Tell you why so remember. Glucose levels leading the nerve damage supposedly concentrating the foot yeah, and you lose feeling in your foot, so even dislike stabbing your toe badly. Can we do in infection that you don't notice, because you not feeling the pain right and all of a sudden, you have this infection that stopping far off properly cause the blood circulation to your foot is

in this year and next thing you know you have gangrene and if it has to be amputated unbelievable because of type two diabetes yet and is it I did look this up, but we understand it is you can reverse the heading toward type two diabetes until you have type two diabetes and then you ve got it. That's what I work for us all to you like you can't undue at once. It sang and hold right what you, where you go through. First call insulin, resistance, yeah metabolic, Rome or pre diabetes right and you can catch than you just need to go in for a physical like once a year, something like then you'll be able to catch whether or not you have pre diabetes, yeah and then you take certain measures did not get type two diabetes for you. I think once you have tasted, I beseech you gotta for life, where I think I want to say it is not just about the health aspects of it, but there's is really great. Documentary narrated by Katy Kirk called FED up there.

Europe should seen it's about this effort at times. A really good really well done. Documentary yeah there there's a lot of great through document or he's out right now that really go into what the food industry has become these days very eye opening stuff. Have you seen through precisely the valiant? I know not ours, You know these under fire, for basically they got a lot of people tried to replicate his results and no one's been able to do it. It was interesting that I've ever seen super high me. Yes, they're gonna get I've Benson. It was funny catch those for those. You don't know that, since it is a comedian who is famous for smoking tonnes of wheat,

he's got documentary called Super Jaime yet and which I believe he smoked pot every day all day for thirty days and then died, and that took a bunch of tests like rain testing, physicals and things like that and then did not smoke at all and then compared the two. How did turn up? I was interesting. Some results, whereas he expected some surprise. You I want to see that he's a funding rather like India, all right, so it will take a break. Hear me. Come back. We're gonna talk a little bit more about this really cool article, the extraordinary site, Of addictive junk food, what

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You set me up article that we reference the extraordinary signs of addictive junk food, and it's really interesting by Michael MOSS Right was, as I'm pretty sure, as in the New York Times and two dozen twelve or thirteen yeah, and he basically detail at first, a meeting and ninety. Ninety nine of the heads of some of the largest food companies in the world, getting together to talk about the fact that all the doktor Justine we're making junk people are get no beats. And this this chemist basically thought I'm gonna talk these people into sort of reversing some of

there. There are practices in the name of good health and was disappointed to find that the Al Qaeda dug in right now we're gonna make the stuff and people want it. They want it right. And we're not gonna, try maker, healthier, snicker bar that doesn't sell, because the name of the game at seven right, that's the way they included, is nobody's holding a gun at these people's heads yeah. The thing is: is a lot of people controvert that point and say you guys kind of you, science to hijack our evolutionary processes and make it so that is really really difficult to refuse this food right. Like the vetoes, you write that melt in your mouth in your brain, does it realise its eating on these calories? Yet again, the beating tons of cheetah

one of the most interesting stories- and here I thought any- tells a bunch of sort of histories of some of these junk foods, but am lunch apples with super interesting to me yeah, an I want to say nefarious. Almost you know when you how it came about, but basically what They did a lot of research into mother Hood and found that the biggest challenge was time there. Mom don't have time an essay moms parents, while this is nineteen. Eighty five, those moms there. Parents and mom so have time to get the to get a good meal, into their child, so we're off, having a bologna crisis, right asking, I was like no is eating all of love any longer him were in allotted

So what are we going to do? These things came together to create the wonderful which, the new convenient way to package food and a tray, but it was the same stuff yet so that bloody again, it's all marketing so that Bologna they wanted to put bread in there, but of course, bread. You can't make bread last for two months right, so they threw some crackers in there, nice, they wanna cheese, and there is what goes better with Bologna and crackers right cheese, and then I think Oscar Meyer bought craft, so they distort, in craft cheese and both of them by the waiver on by Philip Morris cigarette Manufacturers, who definitely has your health at heart. They did

payments, indifferent cheeses and they found that, like real Jesus, no good in the best cheapest cheese that lasted along it was not even cheese. It was cheaper food which I think is also. There is its own category cheese food he said, but I had asked him for trying real chatter. First yeah, I guess it's like the potato chips. In a barrel, though they go stale, you can't can't sell it. This article points out that it takes several months for something from to go from the factory to the grocery store saw shelf, yes away, that's a parted and get that that the ham in those things is good for several months. Yes, oh, it's probably give for several here how preservatives the same thing that the poison squad was like testing against. Remember that half the episode. Yet these are the things that didn't make them sick. That's what preserves or food now, not a surly good for you.

But it will make you sick immediately and Chuck. There's one thing I want to say here: I've seen as a common places, apparently the apple that you buy the store who has been off the tree for an average of four teen months, really, yes, industry the preservatives. Like him. I don't entered the tree. I have no idea how they do. Fourteen months is the average from tree to shelve for an apple, an apple That's why you're ahead aware later evening, I e I dont have interesting, I don't know, but I have seen a couple: and I would like to know if anyone out there knows that that is incontrovertible untrue year or if it is true how that's possible, I would love to know, carried the big and am sure someone, because you make an excellent point like. Why would then it spoil very quickly

how here, unless it's kept under certain conditions, gets to your house and then it's like were well I can finally die here because you bought me back the lunch. The sails were going gangbusters, but there are still losing money on it because it was just an expensive products package, as it will trays and everything costs money. And then they just started to run wild with adding things to make to the increase sales for adding desserts do it started. Sugary drinks to them. Pre, son, yeah, collate son and then they start if marketing, they tried things like carrots, but they didn't so well, so they at it, and then they started realizing that we should market to children

and not moms anymore, because what they figured out was that it was about the kids having control, because the kids would go and throw out the carrots and just eat the meat and cheese. Let's there in the Maurice CUP, that one in their right, and so they started marketing the children with commercials. Like all day you gotta do it. They say lunchtime is all your little kids and thirty monitor like lunchtime is our mind with lunch. You and they wanted it, so they would go to the store and scream at the top of their lungs until they got at the other end, because we have which also one. I think I guarantee you and I haven't verify this, but I guarantee you that if you go to the store and you find lunch, apples there at a child died level. Oh I'm sure there, feathers further place now, mom, I level child. I level ya, think they're on the horizontal part of the meat section. Guess like not built vertically up on a shelf right there down even below

kid where they can even the rabbit yeah in run out of the store with the other interesting Ngos in this article when they talked about. What's happened to yogurt over the years that in here or basically, hijacked, something that should be good for you, and now you get like twice of sugar. Your body needs in a survey of yogurt these days, like he far sprinkles yeah, healthy yet and put it. Let's put it at its queasy too, for kids call ogre colleague over yeah. This article was really great in this guy really laid out just the ideas, kind of the thinking behind the sides buying a really long. Article is really really worth reading one of the earth. Is it goes into. Is that there is the sum this food scientist is kind of like a ledge, anything less than was Moskowitz yeah he's just a legend in this

field and he figured out very early on data. Optimizing yeah yeah, he think are there? Not only does your tongue like detect, fancy, okay, you had an effect. Stop eating this that that has to be tricked. It does the same thing labour to so if there is a really over an hour flavour than my eyes, delicious. You get sick of it fast. So what this guy figured out? What food scientists now do is delta flavors and combine other flavour, so one isn't dominant so that there is no real flavour for the tongue to be like I'm sick. So the readers are really good example. Ideot showed the readers is its own flavour. It's not just garlic is not just cheesy. It's this thing that they put together that tricks your tongue in an ever be. Satiate there, which is how you can down a whole baggage, Rita, yeah, so interesting, and so much research goes into this when they start talking about the amount of

consumer study. They did and Anna like thousands and thousands of ours of people tasting things and taking notes on whether tasting and basically creating a mathematical formula for how to create the perfect thing that you won't want to stop eating, and not just for people for this age group or this age group of this ethnicity is likely to really down with science. All this just to come up with Jerry, vanilla, doktor, pepper, yeah, The other thing to was, though, I remember how railed about all the Doritos now the different flavors, which I have no problem with that Well, I just thought it was interesting in that they basically food technicians at a certain point, start worrying about new products. In said, the wine extension is where it that right so instead of one type of data, will offer you like twenty five,

different types right, rather than one tabled three doing like an entirely new product right, because apparently one of them These things in the world to do is to get people to buy a new product, whereas if you have the branding associated with it. The emotional attachment people know it's tasty, though a different version, an offshoot of it there, but not necessarily a whole new products, could be superior in every way and they spend as much as thirty million dollars a year on some of these products not did company but like on a specific food product, including things like machinery, thirty thousand dollar machine that simulated a chewing mouth to test the perfect break point of a potato chips within four pounds per square inch of the four pounds of pressure and so they are not only spending money on research on advertising as well, as has the forks article pointed out that in two thousand twelve, just Mcdonald's spent two points:

times as much money on advertising as all fruit, vegetable bought of water and milk producers combined globally that totally the empty lot abruptly commercials. The disgusting. I will finish with something interesting that you said about the junk food. Think. I heard this before where someone will undertake a diet of not only junk food, but a lot of junk food scares in liquor. Nutrition scientists from Kansas State go some sort of calf yeah. I got a large tat goes lay the day, whores care case state. He had some sort of a cat got big cats yeah. He went on a ten weak junk food diet, chocolate covered snacks, cream filled, cakes, sugary, cereals, cookies chips. He did eat a protein check every day and some

Wait. A minute and supplements in Tibet is here and there too, and he lost the lot await you in it, because he ate eighteen hundred calories a day which is a calorie, reduce die right by technically. As far as macro nutrients goes, it was a balanced diet, abounds between carbs, proteins in fat. Had lost a bunch away. He lost a bunch await, he lost his be am I went down subtle body. Fat was reduced, his cholesterol was reduced, the bad cholesterol went down, the good cholesterol went up in that nuts eating junk food. On a juncture diet, yet I can see losing weight, guide, calories nor calories and there's a big debate about that. But I think, ultimately, that's what this thing shows and if

do calories. It doesn't matter where your calories are coming from you're going to lose weight, but to have your bag cholesterol go down and your good clash I'll go up was really surprising to me. Yet I think that the main thing I took away those this is the ten weak diet and what happens over a ten year period while that year and as for the great questionnaire pretty interesting, very interesting stuff mark stop, I believe, Mark Hob of case state cats sorry case state that was laying chalk. That was lame. If you, I know more about junk food, you should take those words in the search bar has to work that camp and check out there near times, articles good ones on their check out. The encyclopedia, junk food and fast food actually go to the park has paid for this episode and scandalous and I guess a sample.

By the way I look it up and are normally do that, but it's a wildcat, so we re Bam. Willie the wild cat is the actual. We said big cats in the world, while Catherine Super big, they can be like alliance technically a wild cats. I guess I just think of like Bob cats and things and mount minds when the going gets, but a line would be well can't write the huge Huge ironical, this aborigines remember when the male puberty absurd. We talked about the aborigines, had some pretty brutal puberty rights that they would but voice through. We were taken it ass, a little bit in a nice way. Guys want to give you some feedback about the term. In the australian context. This is quite an outdated term to say aborigines. Some people still identify with it, but it's generally accepted to say indigenous Australians or aboriginal. Australians, there are hundreds of aboriginal nations around Australia, each with their own traditions.

Knowledge within these nations are various clan and family groups in within those or multiple types of kinship relationships. It gets really complicated so that puberty ritual you mention would likely have only been practised by some people. Others would have had their own traditions, so, in other words, excellent points. We should instead, like the aborigines, knew this because it might have been like one small part of a driver's and very vague. Yes, that is from my Christa, I assume in Australia. Key say it like an Australian. Is there but again ass, Julia for Christa here, if you want to take his task in a nice way or otherwise, but we always prefer a nice way. We'd like to hear from you, you can try to us it s wires, K Parkhurst. He can join us on Facebook that complex that we should now begin citizen. He melted stuff as the House efforts that camp and is always join us in our home on the web stuff. You should know Doc

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