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don't let it up I'll check it down, some surrogacy spectrum emerge here. Oh yeah, I don't go for automated of much well love cooked past us us here, but I'm a man s guy at heart, so for talking events you know one thing about the year: the reader effect, a kind of ruin me a little bit, I'm food. They can't be like us to get tomato in some parts of my brains like girl, whilst not a nineteen, forty tomato, you don't know tomato is would you like a jersey, tomato verses, meaner, just some other stuff where was supposedly like I just put agricultural. Action in the? U S is so homogenized. Now that, like we ve lost all these great heirloom varieties of Gaza is spent.

Tomato and stuff that most people get better tomatoes. You just know they're no good compared to how they used to be cleared up a farmer's market share that even still go that jack yourself. Or build a time machine, take the way back machine and get the data we got at our disposal, which it what's your problem. She. Finally, ended on gas area was fined, fuck that you like man is because did you know, did you know before this? I should say: that they number one condiment for sales wise. In the United States is madness I did not know that in when I saw that that surprise me a- and it surprised me be that it was that much more than ketchup I figure ketchup would be far and away. The winner is always feel like the ultimate weirdo not liking ketchup. So what is it about catch of uniting the tests?

That's a pretty give reason I feel, like I'm, not wild about vinegar base things. Oh yeah, I do, balsamic, vinegar, but a lot of the other vinegar is I'm not crazy about that's one of them. Don't like pickled things right, but Vinegar based things, it's really sweet, then I don't love a sweet, condiments Have you ever had Currie catch up now, Ernie Ketchup Ah I see and then the the when I was a kid I can't lie. It probably gross me a little bit because your mom bathing in setting up it's like that it curbing the blood thing in our probably thought. You know it grieves me out, because we would use it is blood for play acting in things yet so yeah

not into it. Those are some solid reasons to now I catch a plus. I don't love. People probably argue that catch the man is a great together. Once you're on the Mayo train to mix up another continent with it. Just doesn't make sense to me I I don't. I don't discriminate. Oh I like most. If not all, condiments select catch up, mayo and mustard on a burgers good deal. Yes, Maria. I can't I felt like I can't eat it without, like I've actually found. I can eat burgers without catch up now. I'm a grown up, but I like allowable catch of other mustard and then yes definitely mail or Emily. Of catch up so much that she calls french fries a catch up delivery system, yeah, I'm a sensor vehicle for tell her to try curry ketchup, it'll Knocker socks off. I totally will like girl yet,

but you don't catch up, so you like best Mary. She likes ketchup, even if she doesn't like curry she may still. I could catch a nazi like ours. Gonna love, curry, catch up here, so man. This is the number one candidate in the United States. It's a big surprise, which must mean catch up his number to hear it. Oh by the way admission. How much more, I think it was about two billion dollars to eight a thousand or more eight hundred million dollars, which is more than double that kind of surprise yet is very surprising and what's even surprisingly, those being facetious, because ketchup isn't even the number to consummate in the United States earlier, so that rights also to big surgeon them like Eightys and Ninetys, because people like to say something that recital d efforts ketchup is number three right, Recent mustard be for PETE's sake. What is this? The EU? You know yet, ninety

Seven percent of american households have a bottle of catch up in their wildest kitchens, but we'll get the fridge non fridge thing later sure. So, yes, everybody loves nature, especially in America, because it is obviously an american invention. Everybody knows John Wayne Grandfather, inventing care while he was sailing, is Ford track down the Mississippi River and one day a magical bottle: Budweiser, clean and whispered the rest period this year, commemorated the event by cheating off fireworks. I love it. That's a cancer boys Everybody knows air fireworks pretty need That's not true Although I take a little bit it issue with this, because It was first created in Asia in China about five forty four c e. I should say I saw they think. Maybe the Chinese gathered from the Vietnamese yeah. I saw it, you ok, but as you will see these

the peace that were originally for preserving fish, its aid, They didn't have to meet us at all that came in America much later, but it's so not like ketchup to me. It's you can't even is it back and say like yeah, that's ketchup the point and even linking these things, because can linkum like its it. That's the fascinating thing to me about it: it's like American catch up. What we think of his catch appear in the states like hind, fifty seven stuff right is it. Species the evolved I'm thirty seven sauce behind schedule when everybody thinks of his catch it by it species are evolved from an ancestor that that is, it can directly traces, lineage right back to this catch. I've been in Asia. So much that the word ketchup isn't it accusation of either a malay word was borrowed from the Cantonese or a hokey in

South China Phrygia province. Word either way with something like cats, you and meant a fermented fish pasted when you go to the store. Today, a new book fish sauce year limit. That's that's there was that the progenitor of catch that were ketchup came from here I mean I guess, That makes it suggests to me so much It's almost like you should just draw a line, and I guess that line would be pre tomato imposed tomato. I think here I think this pretty fair to say, yeah preach made tomato, you didn't, you know they draw a line because, if you look times ketchup bottles. It says clear. Tomato catch up there, and this is really great, because a fast co design article by a gunning, John Brownlee, who points out like why, even bother pudding tomato on the label of courses, tomato catch up, you idiot

reason is because that's a throw back to a time when catch up, didn't he tomato and it had things like sardines and anchovies here all night is by anchovies, so There were sardines that there were you name it probably in catch up at some point bright. So maybe Southeast Asia, maybe China. The Brits encounter this on some of their wild trips abroad. In as many things brought it home said, we love this stuff was tryin, replicate it And then in seventeen thirty two was, one of the first published recipes and the UK ketchup in paste by Richard Brand bright, regrettably Ricky barely any did reference fee on the east these as its origin. Yeah. But anyway, all pre tomato,

sure I was a very pretty a faithful recreation of the fish source that they found the cats. You I'm pretty sure tat. You say it would be very interested to know how to pronounce it. Correctly, but there is a faithful recreation of it, which was basically like preserve fish in a sort of brine, with some spices thrown in the little mace salt and pepper. Maybe something like that: peel and then I don't have it every year, Catherine fish on everything. I don't mean fewer fish. Us it's like ITALY. When I get people put liberally in its only for certain things: yeah yeah, you know you know I just like a throne fish Tarzan. Everything. I don't know man. If you are fished us, it's like ITALY, when I catch up people put ketchup, understand anything. Where would you do that? So at first, the Brits like Blimey,

This is really good stuff, but let's get exit but I he I'm not that big gun anchovies. What else can we replace aware? So they say making their own kind offshoots of catch up where they were say anchovies with other stuff, yeah, I mean mushrooms walnuts, what else elderberry yeah oysters, yeah and what they were going for was that you mommy flavour, they didn't know it at the time Kazoo mommy wasn't discovering toward the sixties. I think these traditional yeah everybody Cannon knew that it was a thing it knowing it actually like suggested outer named right. That's what they're going for is that savory midi flavour that you get from some fermented anchovies in their train every created Did I mean like apparently true catch up with tasted allowing washed ashore, saucer and then a walnut cat,

apparently Jane Austen was a big fan of their inefficiency. Thinking of putting this I'm like you're hot dog, the hot dogs, and yet they within our people were using a further using. It is like a base for stews here or like meat pies things like that, I saw ass. It was a base. There was something that that you are taking and food and making it savory. With this bottle of staff, there was made from fermented something or other well and they would be sit on, they would use it like. We can ease barbecue sauce, they would basted on things while their cooking sure, which address can imagine that, like basting tomato base, while this before US tomato, yes, right. This is windows mushroom based here, but you mention mommy and your buddy, Malcolm Gladwell, but article four, new, Yorker and kind of throwing out the question like. Why are there so many kinds of mustard? Yet ketchup is kind of catch up?

His answer was because it satisfied all. The fundamental tastes are five sweets artists. Bitter and mommy enough, answers that there actually are a ton of different kinds of catch him well, this has been. Is there are mustard so a mirror is who first does tomato, sir, are native to North America. And this is where people first started using tomato was the base year by check it a really long circuitous route to get to that point. In the reason lies in America. We're making catch up, but they were still doing things like using walnuts in using mushrooms and oysters as the base of it right here. Stillborn using tomatoes. Even the tomatoes were everywhere and there was because Europeans and em up can colonists or european colonists considered tomatoes? ass there, so they didn't need tomato

So maybe I think they use them is like ornamental plants or something like that. Finally, some people started to like try. Yeoman tried to convince other people and then through a little period where there are considered medicine and I'm. Finally, somebody started adding on two to catch up in a first tomato catch, her breath He appears in an american cookbook depending on who you ask either in one thousand, eight hundred and twelve or one thousand eight hundred and one in twelve one. Well yeah, that's what I found It is well, but it is still really really take off until post civil war MRS Eighteen, seventy one. When I mean Henry Heinz. He got together with a doctor in that right. Yes, that. Guy, I'm doctor widely, he remembers first name but he's, open. Our FDA does. Does the FDA protect Americans? were that guy, who put together that group of people who it

like a preservatives until they were poisoned find out whether something was poisonous or not. Yes, there the guy who serve that squad. Yeah darker Harvey Washington Wily, yet so his idea was for a while they are ketchup was had some really nasty chemicals in it some of them had- and these are all preservatives. Some of it was cold tar that gave it the red and then sodium been so it did so eight and that helps to retard spoiling. So it was really nasty stuff and he kind of first championed that they suffer. In full to your health, so he got together with him J Heinz who was producing catch, making seventy six and they were like. You know it you use really good has at the time if they were making was from like scraps of tomatoes right. There were quite a colleague, junk tomatoes, and they said you know. It

Good ripe, red tomatoes is your base. Has now preservative in it called packed? In the end? It really, you know we gotta Branford the vinegar Cosette or about the spoiling and all of a sudden. We don't need these chemicals anymore right, which has a huge breakthrough and the reason why there is so many preservatives in catch up was because it does have a pretty short growing season. It's like a MID August, a MID October. And so the only time during the year you could make fresh ketchup was those two months make a years worth of catch up like by this time, people buying millions of bottles of catch up in America alone a year rights. He couldn't make all that in two months she had to preserve the pop, but they d to terrible standards and practices to reserving so when you opened up that tub of pop, you know come July good been and to make some to make some some new ketchup

it was totally spoil ridden with bacteria is very dangerous stuff to begin with and there the basis that they used to start with fear it was really bad stuff in when Heinz created. This preserve free version of catch up. Was a huge, huge breakthrough in no way back, Tina even created that iconic octagonal catch a bottle, yeah that you cannot fine stores anymore. As far as I know that you can still get in restaurants, you can take them from restaurants sleeve, and I should get it. All right, so sick, a break here and we'll get back and talk about this foul condiment theoretical

all right so today, ketchup is basically tomatoes, salt, vinegar, onion powder, some spice, some kind of sweetener, either blood sugar or lot of corn syrup or high fruit dose corn syrup yeah. Is it I think I freaked out coin serves the standard and I think it was HANS that first came out with her a brand that didn't have hope. Routers corn, certainly touted it all up and down the avenue in Heinz far away like sincerity, Japan. Amid the bad mistake of buying catch up one time for Emily. How would you were kind? Did you go? I think it was hot then you know she's a nun another. It's like don't bring any hunts, and God forbid any Del Monte catch itself

yeah. It's Heinz fines Heinz here in my hand and it is far and away the the leader? I think they have what likes it see you're so per cent of the market share. That in the: U S there about thirty percent of the global market, so light not bad Hinds is synonymous literally with catch up around the world that everybody knows Heinz catch, a brain. We should get nemesis the Irish, but then we would never be able to do a show about ketchup were given the Sylvia values. We do. We really do chuck aircraft, since to you on your very own, you as well, so catch us much standardized. Depending on how you ask it's either incredibly toxic or actually has some health benefits could be both the right. There's a I said. I I think I already said that There is a period where tomatoes worsen medicine back in the day, nearly tomato pills, yet

tomato pills and actually they had catch of pills too. There is a doctor in Ohio who stole the ideas of another doktor Michigan, and why to a guy who is selling patent medicine hey man, tomatoes are super healthy and by extension. Ketchup should be super healthy and I believe that they do things like gum treat. The suggestion by removing by off, the body here. Getting diarrhoea, Egypt, God jaundice ketchup pills, about rheumatism headaches. Well. So this is where it starts to get a little wacky right there. They started selling doktor mills compound extractive tomato. And they were successful in his back in eighteen, thirty five and there are successful in a bunch of imitators came on the market. And all of a sudden, there was not so so great any longer Well now it's a lot of them. Didn't even have tomatoes in them. There were

our joint ketchup pills or they relax. It is acting as likes. It is, and so that caused the great tomato pill market crash right of eighteen, forty, but today were much smarter and rather than ketchup pills. We take tomato pills, also known as like a pin supplements because, like subpoenas, that's the good stuff that you're looking for, has been shown to help cancer patients specifically It actually proven is prostate cancer right so they have improving battalions show there has been the most like positive studies, but even still, the jury is still out now. In Dhaka by day, yes, prostate cancer is the one that they were. They roundly point to say, like opium, really helps with death some studies have shown that they like a pin? Somehow disrupts commute haitian between cancer cells and rid retards, the growth of blood vessels to the cancer cells. So

they don't get like they can't grow as well, and apparently the body reduces like a p naturally, but also readily absorbs the news to unwanted sources of like a pain. Is tomatoes? Brighton? Like gives tomatoes, among other things, that the red color, but then using thing about. It is if you eat a raw tomato right now, you're in going to absorb is much like a pin. You ate some catch up right now, yes, go we cook yeah, release the like fear, makes it more readily available the human body we should say. Yes, they also say even if it does help it's like you know alone, upon. A hamburger is not nearly enough to really do you. Good. Now, something like come to two points. Five milligrams of like a pain in a tablespoon of catch. It. You say well just eat a bunch of catch up. Parliament if you say like a half a cup about seven tablespoons of catch up with you

to be a weirdo anyway, to do that right, you're, getting about three quarters of your daily sodium intake? Unfortunately, spoons of added sugar as well yeah. Well, you just better off like being some tomato sauce instead here. But the point is, if, like a pin, helps humans, which the jury is still out, but it looks like it's possible. Thanks actually can help humans by being a little extra like a pin? That's what this is agreed have you been here on your tomato sauce? all these things, can add up over time. So ketchup was, was, so unwell in America, Kosovo, war, you get that to go now. Everyone loves it, but there, the problem early on with ketchup that it took a long long time to fully solve sure, they're still sort of working on it, is that catch up. Anyone

grew up in the seventies and eighties and loved catch up at a diner. Would have a hard time getting the catch up out of that glass bottle when they were there all kinds of tricks. Remember one of them- was the. If you tapped on there, the fifty seven and on the label, was at it did. It would come out better Then he had the the jackass. Who would dismay the bottom of it until catch up would shoot out all across the table. Works by now. Well or the more sheepish person the diner might stick it butter knife in their favour. You die ketchup hook in Calcutta, and the reason why this is happening, because up, and this is in your little dinner party. Factoid is a. Newtonian fluid. So if you change, your oil word or even water out of a cup. You will notice that all pours out

at the same rate. It has a say the scarcity newtonian fluid noon as a great ketchup again starts start MT very slowly and then all of a sudden start picking up steam and come another bottle and that we know you're, really cooking that's as different external forces, acting upon it to either increase or decrease that viscosity bright so it has multiple viscosity, which makes it a nine Newtonian flew right up when you, when you put forward honest, specifically sheer force. Changes to the viscosity it. Actually increases the viscosity, the catch of which increases the flurry It means it comes out of the bottle faster and one of the ways that you can introduce sheer force as age, they are is too on the bottle: Vs Dec cost of force, loose

you're changes the viscosity in the catch it flows more quickly. So actually is true too. There was something to that then yeah, that, having on the embossed fifty seven, the one that was again based on the bottle here. That's that's the perfect spot to tat. Because, if you hit it with the heel of your palm under the rear, the bottle, if you normally. I could only on if you right, if you do that lightly, are you doing is it using the viscosity of the catch up, in the rear, the other stuff toward the neck of the bottle that you're trying to get out Aramis highly viscous right. If you tap toward the neck of the bottle, again a reduced viscosity, the ketchup that's up there and fry in, start the slide out. If you hit that thing on the bottom hard enough you changed the viscosity of all the ketchup inside yeah, it's gonna come shooting out and you're gonna, look like an idiot friends, are going to laugh at you. You'll die alone, that's right! So they had.

Problem with this and they thought and ninety sixty eight. What about ketchup packets, this kind of solves are promptly, can squeeze it out, and this idea that's gonna need it might too well for restaurants. What's gonna happen, zip, like bag full of catch, a pact in their fridge unless you're my mom and their from like eight different fastfood restaurants, God bless her, so that the others are still around, but it finally took till nineteen eighty three to come up with a plastic squeeze bottle which still didn't fully work: because, as this our own article points out, they made funny farting noises, which I guess unseemly at a dinner table sure and then that what the industry insiders call serum yeah that fair watery. Can a gross that nobody wants on their their hammer hot dog, catch of juice, yet toward the end that serum comes out, and nobody wants that. So

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almost simultaneously hides enhance released a Newt, The squeeze bottle that you could stay Sit down here, have stayed toward the bottom right and actually design to catch the ketchup juice, the syrup and re mixer back into the catch of solid as it flow out. That's right. The new name, Paul Brown is the hero too many he created a the silicone valve and it wasn't just forget in fact, our even off it was originally forget him. It was for shampoos. I think that he is trying to come up with other makes sense, but he's a hero to catch up lovers. These liquid lousy had right angles. Let's cut to devolve. So when you squeeze a bottle, nice neat and then they closed back up, stop squeezing would seals it back up inside the bottle and then it's a revolutionary

the dome that has the slits cut into the sight of it then around the dome, it where the serum collects and then as the of his moving out it's best to mix back into get somebody how it scientists got into this right to think if they catch a bright, and it still is imperfect, like you, you, anybody who uses this bottle knows that you still get ketchup Jews when you first quarter, unless you shake a first year, and even then you still gonna get a little service is the fact of life in air. You just you, don't want it You don't want to do it on a bad day, because there can be the thing that the straw that breaks the camel's back. You know where you dear suddenly, you're sobbing standing in your kitchen, holiness squeeze bottle of catch him. If a is because, although it is a non fluid theirs, Any serum did you finish, tv, man, Asia, I did go to the little Mart near my house to see if they have more any any halfway decent asian market will have it

sure they do, I mean you can buy much a powder and so I'm sure yet other state will have to be managed. The two thousand to win that new vow was introduced by Heinz and highlights the does. Mention four delmonte. I wouldn't feel too bad for them, though there still there still somewhat ketchup Better still make their money. I want to hear from people, though there, like normal Del Monte Man, through our there's somebody somebody out there we want to hear from, though a jet ones, not hipster ones, yeah yeah. I, like you, I, like my Lord and Del Monte, Ketchup, NPR shirts, so two thousand? It was when I was a minute and then arose implemented, and then there was that stuff. No problem, apparently with catch up where you get it with a bottle of the Swedes bottles, and he can't get it all out. And that was solved with a little bit of technology

MIT called liquid glide, I don't know if they ve implemented this year? It sounds like gum, adding something? There is really necessary that could conceivably be toxic, I was not in their yet. I don't leaves a host of ex article makes it sound like they ve, invented in their planning on a guy. You haven't put it in yet. Yes, everything with liquid glider looked up What that was all about- and I think the deal is, is it essentially sort of is a coating on the inside the bottle? That makes the inside of the bottle. Pre wet away slippery bear them. That was the thick Griswold came up with a Christmas vacation hours ago, silicone Eddie footing at me here. That's legal glide here, basically thought that there was gonna be any vacation reference in this. It would be real to me. Such a body,

I was there on and that within the here spoon here, he spent the catch up on the sandwich in those Canada's chunky here. Real tomato catch open. You had nothing but the best Clark. Liquid glide by all accounts is based, food safe, but I always wonder about this stuff like I don't trust the FDA, so Am I going to say that I am fully trust the FDA in all cases, so can imagine that this. You haven't been poisoning yourselves all along. Oh yeah, food containers in urge you wonder like if there's go, to be there violation that, like ethic book moment or soiling? Green is humans is dead moment where we come to realise that this be What everything it is is this is

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I took put it off any longer hit me so ketchup key, you see HTTP Europe versus cats, up see eighty as you PETE, weird the House of Lords article. I didn't see, I didn't actually look brighter. See this anywhere else that their pronounced the same Have you ever that so use you ve seen people say catch up and you knew that in their mind they saw the word cats. Yes, did not realise as Ngos. That adds up yes, but I would catch up. I say Catholic mockingly, but I that's how I pronounced in idea, but apparently the they're, both bastard innovations, angle, accusations of whatever word the catch. Originally comes from either that Fujian word

or the malaysian word for fur again that that and Jovi fermented paste, and so they think Heinz catch up starting pretty early on correct Yes, so that's interesting story and you just basically told the whole thing I had at came Heinz, even though they like the global global leader in in catch up. They came get pretty late, like thirty years after the castle was sold mass produced in the: U S: yeah hi came along. Finally, and they want distinguished themselves competitors, so they use ketchup catch. It was in a new word. It was the original word. If you look back like summers. Eighteenth century recipes, its ketchup Kay, T see HTTP bright apparently some time in the eighteenth century, people started calling it cats up, and so that was the preferred Term going ok and then,

Heinz distinguish themselves and brought ketchup, spelling this the popularize spelling with a k back and because they got market share, that became the norm. Equally and then so I was Del Monte, who is the big outlier for years Ninety mediators, when they finally said all right, no more catch up with ketchup yeah and they did then. What about the other thing that I know a lot of people have argued over for dinner Genes is fridge or no fridge. So, I mean it's got out of varying grana its supposedly as far as Heinz is concerned. They say it's its shelf stable, the only that, even after you open it, it's got enough stuff in it that it's going to stay fine right outside of the fridge, but this

I commend keeping it in the fridge here. They say this is direct quote from Heinz, whoever that the latest the air is, I think it's Johnny, Harry Overwrite. Wasn't that wouldn't wife behind their Teresa Teresa High Fright Sir John Kerry, says because natural acidity. It shall fable, however, its stability your opening can be affected by storm conditions. Are we recommend, like any process through to be refrigerate? after opening. So in other words If you live in whom Arizona you might not want to keep your catch up in and you don't have air conditioning you might want to keep your catch up on the table, for you probably could, if you really want it. But if you live in in California, where the breeze is always cool and the air is always clean. Then yes, then you might wanna, you know you could put it. Today, when you probably find you

colleagues, a number of different preservatives in its got vinegar and has sugar, which is a preservative, has packed and naturally founded tomatoes. It's a preservative is probably gonna, be fine but bookkeeping. Fridge. Anyone without us, unless you have lake if you don't have enough room in your fridge for the bottle of catch up, then you have too much saucer insurrection right Sir Roger Roger. You hipster you right. We could actually- and in fact that Muzzle get There are sir for Roger Catch. Ups. They're pretty popular they ask us this article, as millennials like their spice more than their parents. Depending on where you are in the world. There are all free, of catch up in all ways to use ketchup depending on where you are and those who say, love how that was put can t see a hipsters parent,

coming out. I'm doing what do you like more despise me like my space, more my parents or you know that what they met right, Let's take a tour around the world. I know you're leaning out to I just had a double back tonight. Alright, let's go to get a jolly old England or maybe than his waylay, even ok, because apparently they like sweeter catch up in those two points, yeah and in the Philippines they like sweet ketchup, but they likes. We catch of that debate made from Anna based rather than a tomato base, but crazy over there, so they die read. So it looks like tomatoes yeah, and we also should say that in England they might be more apt to reach for the hp sauce before the catch up, though right the brown saucer. Yes, they love that stuff yeah. I think, Their number one condiment over their hp sauce relates called the Brown us. They call it the the Brown, the Brown now at the terrible, big brown now

Big Brown, apparently Americans, like we said well, we need a lot of catch up, but where the leading consumer, because the fan and the Canadians love the stuff more than we do. Even here This proves the shameful America. The shameful yeah mayonnaise salsa, so in China Jamaica, and I believe Thailand they like to put ketchup. I'm fried chicken gotta, try that want her. What about Peter. He's Eastern Europe, apparently an Trinidad India, Japan in Poland, that's how you know it's good man, that is a diverse collection of countries that I'll put catch up on their Peter. You know what's funny, as my friend Eddie can say, all of these foods range dressing.

Well, yeah, I may rain stressing should be the number one continent in the world However, I have to tell you something you have to go to Japan or in these days right over, there are weep over their me. They owe you. I thought it was. Just understood you stand on the other trees to come to Japan. Every time we got casually ambassador rush, certain everything by Japan's misspell its they have pizza over there and rather than tomato sauce scan enact socks off. They use the japanese mayor word with but sometimes ham. Certainly we can chat or something like that. I'd say you ve got a dough near the uneven spread of man, s horn off the cab and ham. Yes, and it is mine, blowing leg, There is a cheese I don't remember if there was painted no

I think I'm not begun cheese or dairy than I have that much room for cow although all the they have or like Toby Beef, countless think that's what they kind of dedicated cow cows space to the region, my story of being at the chinese restaurant and I was a kid there. A guy getting take out and he went through about problem, It is very sweet. Chinese act American accept that no chinese food as cheese on it. Cheese on it, ended the sweet Jane owners growing older guy, kept saying like now. No, no, no, that's where he after, like that, the thing the guy's start them and said It is very sweet. Chinese act American accept that no chinese food as cheese on where's the guys is met. Some of them are so now a man at ethic I guess you just unfamiliar- and this was the nineteen seventies. So maybe he'd meaner than have experienced a check it

but it's funny as an adult to think about like them. I am envisages a like melted. It's gonna wait! American! so Sweden, if Europe Sweden, they were Surely squeeze ketchup over their pasta? That's like em, honey, Bubu, really, They used to put a very wise, the show, but I mean I was conscious human being back then too. I was aware of this, but they were. They were cook, pastor, Denham butter on it and then squeeze catch upon in that was like honey, blue spaghetti, my god no comment is to be colleagues of honey goobers at one point, did they work for discovery yeah. They were on TAC rumoured that, back to my room right,

Where worlds, what would also get we're gonna crazy? to have. Ok, so are you ready for this one here? This is I've never heard it before in Canada, Well, you wouldn't have to have you ever seen: ketchup, potato chips, Yes, they are pretty good there better than barbecue gypsy. He asked me hairs makes a good night, the apparent the Canadian do some wacky thing with their where they take and they take ketchup potatoes It turn it into a catch of cake of some sort of not had this before. We're gonna be in Toronto, am Vancouver this year saw eggs. Yes, multiple catch of cakes Yeah right here will have to make a schedule Point out is, inter talking about that tour that too

in Vancouver are far away leading and ticket sales right now out of the gate and Canada like American, his step it up is Canada's kicking your, but man the great thing about doing multi national tours, as you can pick one country against the other right air space. Everybody's kind of devolving internationalism right now you can really get it. You know I can't ships it did have the other day was the what he called the country. Be sausages. Country Grady. I was always year, I'm sure, there's a bigger yeah, I mean do you like white gravy, sausage, gravy, sure, It tastes like that. Really they now that nailed it times, as things are way, are we contest not only yeah. I'm trying to remember some of the other ones, because if they ve some good ones by Tom trips to have what about catch of ice cream,

waffles. One was really good. Was it yeah athletes is this here? maple and by a kind of tasted a little fried chicken ear was there was good crazy. What other kinds of crazy ketchup through we have what about catch of ice cream? No! Thank you. So basket. Robins apparently came up with a new died in the lab yeah that but a parent leave was based on a Heinz ice cream recipe for Heinz carnival cream were so. There was a thing which I mean can I would try to stuff. Did I ever tell you about the time you and I want to place a fiesta in trade, tuna gelato here, It is likely that he's just like a bra tuna, insane. Never heard of it before in ever seen. It anywhere else goes like this one specific place, headed man forever fever yourself in Atlanta Georgia with some time to kill, go to Plaza Fiesta

to find the joy of place and see if they have the tuna gelato, they have a good. The cowboys store over there to get a bunch of my good good boots, hats in shirt belts and check your church brother. If your turn akin senior, that's where you get the I'm sure so. Lastly, Chuck we have to give a show that we would be really remiss we didn't mention that one Tomato is a catch up. Is big ingredient in something called Bruno we talked about prison wine in our prisons episode. I did not think. I remembered that that was in fact We had no there. We say that it was an ingredient in. I don't think so. I did does it until now, but it's like part of it is there and sugar package to feed the fermentation process in a sack right the site, if you could make it

I think it needs to be a little more airtight than that. Maybe not, maybe you could, although it all drift out Sherman man for the rest, yeah. I came across a second, I like a big gallons. I supplied by the after, like the two or three fermentation you feed it with catch a packet in sugar crows, and then you get some Bruno which he should never try. If anything else yeah, we should cover the same. Assessing he said headline Israel, ketchup war for Signs to reliable source as tomatoes seasoning so in Israel the leading ketchup maker, o s e m, O Sam and ever sixty six percent mark chair and Israel as in most countries, they have food standards where you can only call something something of as this much of what and apparently Israel, standards are much higher than the? U S or Europe's yes

have to have a certain percentage of tomato, concentrate to be labelled tomato catch, in Israel, and so also even though they have sixty percent mark or sixty six percent market share when, after Heinz, they said, hey we did a study with an independent lab it had. No skin in the game. Leading here in external laboratory, and they found The Heinz did not have the required percentage of tomato concentrate, so they can't even call it ketchup anymore and I believe it's being enforced over there right yeah? Well, this is from two dozen fifteen thing leaves off at insignia dates for the article leads off that Heinz was petition, with the health minister, to change the tomato concentrate requirements down, something like six percent where's. It as I said there, Have no substance will, then why are they lobbying to get the peace

its lowered fright, happen was kinds of selling this. Catch up. The t sell in Europe and America messages speculation on my part, but neither probably selling the same catch that they sell elsewhere, but in Israel, by Israel, has higher food standards please as far as their catch of goes right and their competitor nailed him on it. That's what I think happened no idea. They can't on the label that they can call it catch up in English, but they can't call it catch. I've been in Hebrew yet again only Collar Vader, seasoning milk. It's pretty funny! It is it's a funny world Chuck it is in our ketchup is done. I guess I didn't think it would take us in our nine hundred something episode to finally get to catch up, but we did

Well in this now frees up now have permission to request, manages: ok, that's the deal will do that may we should have condiment month. Ok, I like this In the mean time, if you want to learn more about catch up, you can take that word in the search bar has to forge dot com. You can also check out Gmos articles on it, like I said, fair co design manifest a great wine and You got some stuff from our friends list. Verse who had a pretty interesting compilation of called tomato fact, Sir catch effects, I said tomato instead of catch up said Felicity this, while signal update. Did you get tweets about it it didn't. I ignore them all, because I think this is why oh hurry, I think its propaganda here. We go then

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We love that city and Sean Flanagan. I do love Charleston yet Charleston. Nice town here knows it hasn't of people for us to go, but maybe people may come from around the southeast, show who knows the heck. We went to bury him Charleston. Yes, I mean, as playing there a good enough reason to give people who go to Charleston, maybe Bill Mary would come. Oh yeah, is still there and those families near the user These are things that more than one place, but I think he will tell you Mozilla Murray through listening, will list you for our show. If your he's just crazy yeah, so that's regime in Burma. People write in about the well Signal Sonya disappointing that everybody bought in due time stuff, you should know you can send us all any mail to stuff Pakistan House. The approach that come in his

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