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opened in Pakistan. Josh Clark with me, as always, is Charles W Chuck Brian looking is right, as ever ever seen a bad sign it. Yet there were the kid he's like your grannies spry, and it is these pudding, honesty mask and they come in the door and he goes greater use prizes here. Only guessing sandwiches were you looking very spider data, done something you ve, never done it before what man? What's literally video on your laptop and just turned around and then started the Pike S waiting to see what happens I think it might have something to do with the part. Did you see? How did it happen? Pyramids pretty Arthur and it has nothing to do, but we're part guessing none of it. I just wanted you to see a very general interest. I will be putting them on Facebook. Page. Ok, because ain't no party, like our Facebook Pages Party, yeah you're in the people getting flung off

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Clearly the pavement much different during one of these ventures arm, I was watching CNN and this weird it was wolf. Blitzer in this weird segment came on where one of Wolf blisters journalist was in Libya meeting with the family of a man who had blown himself up in a car full of explosives to gain entry for the libyan rebel fighters in this city, Syria, disputed city, a camera which one and the guy was sitting down with the family, the to die in the wife who were grieving but holding a picture of the man took to his best friend, who picked up the pieces of the guy, and I read

was. It took me a minute previous dawning on me that this is exactly what say, Afghanis or Taliban. Any state television would do with one of their suicide bombers. It was just like the embargo on discussed over suicide bombing as a general rule was lifted because someone, Sir, then was rooting for Blue himself up, We was ok, but I mean like step for step. It was like a celebration of this man's heroism right for blowing himself up. And I just thought it was really not enough. I guess it's probably as on a jack active as I should be throughout this podcast, but it struck me is really really strange over the blog post on it call them CNN idly celebrate suicide bombers. Hero. Remember that

but it was so weird in theirs. In the bug, posters, video somebody found it and posted it. Video of this weird segment that sticks out like a sore thought and down. I guess what I learned is that my personal opinion is suicide. Bombing is wrong, no matter what site is doing it. I think I would agree with that right. So this is a relatively new thing right: suicide bombing its new, because their bombs are fairly new right yeah, it's far, far more ancient than that it is. The concept of killing yourself were dying in the name of religion is pretty agent. Oh yeah, you wanna go away The martyrdom in general point is what started beginning martyrdom is what we're talking about. Ivy say when you talk about suicide bombing. Forsaking your own life for a higher cause for a principle for your faith, anything

That is not for your direct, like earthly benefit, but maybe benefit later on to elevate your cause. But if it's for you in the afterlife and so generally, that's why we suspect make suicide bombers tick that's what is martyrdom and is because, although it is like a very deep there's, a deep religious affiliation between martyrdom and suicide like this, yeah like bomb in case it doesn't necessarily have to be religious. It can be sure, your aside, your cause, There are forty nine year old oil worker who is Libyan was for the rebel faction. Had nothing to do with religion. He was just willing to die The cause is all suicide bombers. Are your religion kicks it up? A little much though,

well, then the reason why, because the sewing green, the two are so entangled from such an ancient place by like our lamb, who did this article? Who did this? He wrote it I'm here he ate traces martyrdom back to arm second or third century BC right, What with King Nebuchadnezzar yeah here the famous story- I am bible history. The book of Daniel, we all know, can never can answer gave as the busy boys call them sad write me shack the bed, nickel yeah. I can't I can't see those three names together without thinking about that here. Well, disposed for three guys. This probably why they call themselves out in the sun, and they are in the Bible story. He never can ever gave me a choice. You can renounce or jewish faith or you can burn alive, and they said you know what

These two boys- and we don't give in to anybody and so we're gonna not renounce our faith. They were thrown into the fiery furnace and they live right which the lesson there was an early lesson of martyrdom, which was he not gods going to protect those who die in his name, doesn't make you one relating to Turkey tend to think then in, stories like that somewhere yawns ago. Something happened, possibly with these three people. That's what Oh, you mean aim eventually get translated into. They were thrown into this Ferguson. They walked out unscathed. Like did somebody like lose their grip on them in their skirted occur

like a camp fire. You might like their robes in catching everybody's. I call my guide you know in and then it just has to make it more easily digestible for the masses. It was transformed into this larger thing, my feeling when it comes to parables like this, where to me it's obvious that someone wasn't unscathed in a burning fire was that maybe someone was burned like there are being tortured in saying rouse, religion being burned with a fiery torches or something, and they refused and refused, and they couldn't be broken, and so they were set free and that becomes a pair in the way of something miraculous, stating that makes sense, skewed analysis propagate kept for the new year. Resolutions are very, very difficult to keep get more exercise save more money. What about this? We have a resolution that you can really work with stop wasting time going to the post office that right, you stamps that comments

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office again, but the point is the idea was that if the guards, I can't get your back if you're willing to die for my yes, but there eventually transformed into wild What people still believe today that toil on this planet and leads to bounty in the next life? The big three all believe that and you can trace that back to the early, the early church, early jewish faith, early christian faith in their early muslim faith and more damn goes back just as far and comes from the same tree. The idea that if you sacrifice yourself you're, going to gain reward after the so what's a few minutes of pain for a lifetime of her,

some pleasure right? Well, any the non suicide version where you're actually killing other people in the name of your God goes back to, maybe not the first time, but one good example. Robert use was on sixty four eighty! Rather than surrendering to the roman authorities, a rebel group basically killed their own themselves, and every last man and woman, this one, I think, was probably literal yeah probably does like do you think I have ever be treated today, their yeah, like the authorities, coming and you kill every man, woman and child inside and some took a stand off an area we'll, go we're training so but you're! Your point is, I think the larger point is that people were willing to kill themselves, kill those close to them and kill others event:

really in in the name of God, the unexpected some sort of reward for rights, you're talking about the rise of Islam, so it was eighty six ten when the prophet Mohammed received his first vision right now and basically was said about going forth to found Islam and within fourteen years, he'd amassed something over of an army and was taking on other people in and in the area. I write it was pretty successful at right, yeah. So what I gained from this, and and certainly not a scholar and Islam or no scholar in any religion, but the Islam came out of place of strife in battle, and so, firstly, this count

of jihad, came about fairly early on yeah there's two two parts to jihad. If you ve, never, you ve heard that word. Alot use, probably for the second part, which was a righteous battle in the physical world, but that the first part of jihad means it's an inward struggle of the soul in Arabic. So it's a two pronged thing there in the Koran, basically vindicated defence and combat in the name of protecting the faithful as well as retaliation. So it it's traced back to the Koran as far as probably the birth of the notion of something like a suicide bombing, even though it certainly does it say that anything about that anyone, the current right, so jihads played a big role in Crusades which was the christian version of the Holy WAR right yes, and that was taking it to the Muslims doorstep invading the Middle EAST,

these evading the Middle EAST. Yet was the Crusades and so from these conflicts during the the dark ages, the mediaeval ages, the Crusades and after the birth of Islam. This desire here of taking a single person and going in doing as much damage as you possibly could. I came about. So do I remember in these sniper podcast we talked about snipers being considered militarily force multiplier. Yes, so are suicide assassins absolutely and the term assassinate

He comes out of this era and from the Middle EAST from the word, hashish and yes, persian word. The name of a radical Shi Ite Sect didn't know that get so his Sheesh an assassin are one and the same ass. She showed her. She should assassin right. It's like it. That's the way. You may recognize the word his sheet as a type of pot residue. So if you find it odd that the word his chief pops up be advised that

sector, the commission smoked hash as part of their religious ritual era. Yet there are also the ones, though, who would go out and there they were tasked with killing a public public officials, very public places to basically terrorized the population like if you kill somebody like that, he cut summits had often of crowded square yeah, you're, gonna die Aye, but the leaders had just got cut off in front of me right now. I'm really freaked out here there was the first early versions: ancient versions of later become suicide bombing flight, but that sect was wiped out by Mongols and twelve. Fifty seven

and those kind of a brake on this activity for while, as far as world history goes, and then you get to where war too, in the japanese kamikaze pilots who are most essentially suicide bombers, except by way of a plain yeah through the procedure. Could you ever usually think suicide bombings swollen foot? But it can really. You know you can do. There's been boats, there's been cars and trucks humans, walking and then obviously planes flying into aircraft carriers really of male cart filled with explosives. Do you're gonna get the same. Yet your suit Obama will Robert Lamb puts the first modern suicide attack in Lebanon in nineteen. Anyone during a war between civil war between Christian and muslim militants and was alone suicide bomber, Shi Ite hit and Iraqi. See in Beirut

the! U S entered the conflict the next year and nineteen. Eighty three suicide bomber drove into the? U S embassy. I remember that actually killing sixty three people yellows in April and most folks say this- is like the beginning of the modern suicide mission and then an actor were to truck bombs, drove into the Marine Barracks in Beirut and killed too. Ninety nine people here, French in America, anything two hundred and forty one Marines so, like you said the the modern suicide bomber and, unfortunately, it basically gaining momentum ever since this whole concept of a moving to strap voice of exposure to myself walk into a crowd and blow myself up in killing many other people, as I possibly can yell its poke around inside the mind, because people having curious? What can a person does this, because, obviously, if you look at just from a straight fiscal standpoint, they did find

we need, is a team and twenty four is your average age of suicide bomber, yet fairly Israel conducted studies in the late Ninetys there? What do you know who suicide bombers were right said, so the sense of despondency and teams is playing upon here the whole world is against them teens. How many teens feel that way? Now I did yeah and is no different in other countries. Combined feelings with tyranny, your oppressed, you're, angry and then the final censure hears usually anything and have a study that there's some what a personal loss attached to the person who ends up being picked to carry out the mission. Their parents were killed or wounded or put in prison. Yeah yeah. I know yeah? I was in a study, but I said it's really psychiatrists sifted through the list is how Robert put it and they did discover and almost all cases, connections to like slain and wounded family

remembrance and for the most part they were males, but as times worn on women, children, older people have them all We join the echelons of suicide bombers, yet they usually very poor yeah. I'm there is did. Did you hear about the woman from I guess: she's a Chechnya extremists in Moscow on New Year's eve, she had a suicide belt and was getting ready to walk out the Red Square, the blow herself up and take just tons of people with her, and she decided that matter purse. She didn't make it out of the apartment, because she got a spam text from her cell phone provider saying

the new year and it blew up really in her room in our apartment. While she didn't remember that I'll phone off, which apparently is standard procedure, suffer like sheep, they went on bought a cell phone just for that purpose. The providers understand text everybody because I know so from proviso. Thinking like work, providing services to somebody's gonna blow up a bunch of people, the terrorists. To the same, we want children happy new year, While I don't hear about that its true here's, the thing saving money with Geico was almost better than playing pick up basketball is always that guy who joined your game He never passes the rock he instantly bricks theories and who can we have you and then put his hands up and say no foul, no foul with Geico its ease. The switch and save on car insurance known. The vacant fake, an ankle sprain because you're absolutely exhausted so

Which, in save with Geiger it's almost better than sports so one other common trade is that they obviously willing to die for their cause, but they are also willing to kill for their cause. Most terrorist. Don't have a you know. They have no sympathy for the suffering of other people and it helps that in the case of US forces them to them is very, very different from themselves, which is certainly the case with the Middle EAST and the United States can be anymore defence force countries go and people go Yet there is definitely a whole sentiment. The occupation and invasion fan the flames of suicide bombing. While I ask is that you see your Missy. Americans is an invader, an occupier and a savage and a non believer, which is a big part that that part about jihad in the Koran Right says basically like this is what happens to non believers.

What you do to non believers right to an extent, robber points out that a suicide bombers were left just completely alone. They might, back out or think twice. So that's why they surround them toward go time with a social network of supporters to say you know, you're doing the right thing isolate you from your family and friends. Show you videos martyrdom videos, serve to reinforce that what you're if you make a martyrdom video, you make your own saying, like I'm Bobo bunch people up, and I can we take it to the afterlife and I'm like a true believers. Earth had problems and dumb, and so that that is not on. Inspiring. It's also like you can't back out now. You ve made your video right like you. This is your point of no return. Wealth is yet to be probably even more shameful, but I think people in other survival instinct is very strong

So's these people that are handling on usually one of a more go with the suicide bomber, too, are the target. Yeah, and will basically keep em encouraged in on on track, and I imagine, will blow them apathy decidedly. One back out you're well and beyond that sometimes is planned. That way, sometimes the the assistant is, has the detonator Tipp to prevent any kind of back out? I think that is probably a back up that NATO yeah that's my suspicion, so we're talking about the nuts and bolts of it also

let's go ahead with that in the travel. Yes, who, aside bomber, it's not a very elaborate expensive operation, a cost, but a hundred and fifty bucks probably worth of explosives in one human life willing to do so, and you got yourself a suicide bomber, whether its duffel bag, full of stuff or something strap on your chest, like you said they views tracks in boats with duffel bag. Sir, I'm apparently out of vote because you'll get shot in the head. If you look like you are even remotely middle eastern and you have a duffel bag, at least, if you're in London, in two thousand five in your brazilian right now, but you're saying this is just one person but duffel bag or a vast and more about their and with it the attack of the suicide bombers. Threefold right,

it kills a bunch of people so its terrorist stick to. It was a lot of attention to this cause that at least one person is willing to die for it and then three it's it's a force multiplier because it has huge effect, our morale and the psyche of the population live. So go the other way, as pointed out with one or two. It can either like it's happened. Both ways in America has

two hundred and forty one Marines were killed in the truck bombing and nineteen. Eighty four President Reagan said in his in his memoirs that that had a big deal with his pulling out of that region, like he's like now, you know it forget that these people are willing to do this and get my guys out of their or in the case of world war, two with the Japanese, let's drop to bombs on their country, that they won't be able to recover from because their willing to fly their planes into our aircraft you're in other, somehow the Japanese till it how little they tell it like they were starting to make moves that they were willing to surrender and the Americans had so much money invested in this research that they basically needed and wanted to see what happened. It certainly doesn't surprise me there two versions, tat story here and slay history works so shock. Yes, MA am

what I guess, what are these things made up? He said you can fill a truck about other stuff. What is well varies a course that between now and what resources are, I think in the early days they were just three Jaeger Land mines and I use those. But now it's everything from teenty to something called t: ATP, try, acetone trapper oxide than other plastic explosives stuff into a lot of damage, and they found too. The more people around the suicide bomber, the better, obviously not for those people closer proximity. But if you hear that there's a suicide bomber suspect and on setting the crowd disperses, it's gonna have a blast zone that much greater and cover much more area. Is the thick mass of people around that person creek? Basically,

and she'll yeah, pretty soon stuff and in London, two thousand five young. I talked about the camera, oh go that way, by shot in the head. Yeager China had seven times. If I Sonata suicide bomber knows just some guy from Brazil, mistaken identity near those pretty jumpy time. Firmer correctly. Yes, it was you got anything else. Oh, I thought the very end had a very interesting thing that. Rarely settlers were trying? Was they propose burying suicide bombers in pigskin body bags yeah as a way of discouraging suicide bombers? Firma does I guess if they think, if I can be very pigskin, that's not the afterlife them that I'm looking for right, but the problem is Robert. Does a good job pointing this out? I think when you.

The suicide bombing is capable of dehumanizing on both levels. Right yeah, there would have. Not only am, I guess, dehumanizing the suicide bomber, but the human eyes. These rail is right so part of the whole feedback mechanism for suicide bombings. Is that once I didn't see the other team in any longer right, right, you're willing to I for your cause, you're, crazy or you are worth dying to kill, because I dont see you as a person any longer and saw them that would have been counterproductive. I'm sure the job is a tough one. Yet was clever got through man. It's a tough topic. I hope he explained like how it works in the history and

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