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everybody, it's your friend Josh and for this week select I chose, are two thousand sixteen episode on Horoscopes and I was pretty proud of us on this one, because we took something that both Chuck and I were incredulous about. Em we talked about it on its
in terms which can be tough to do so. I'm counting proud of this one, and I hope you at the very least enjoy it. If not feel proud of us to welcome to stagnation,
the production of a radio. You mock, cast Iron Josh clerk. There's two returns to the chocolate
And Jerry's over here I just
relax. I'm here studio worry so the stuff. You should know that it was a structure.
we would call us which has a great name or horoscope or Pollyanna, say horror, scope, no missions
Would you ever want to do up? Horoscopes astrology, podcast,
you mean on its own near know that
see that while we were talking about this briefly until I did,
this time, the normally, whenever this a secret chuck them about a share of everybody out the jury, pre taping secret yeah, if we started talking to involved in the topic before reserve,
morning, usually one must be like stop stop this golden to save it for the part cashier we ended at this time. I think we just kind of naturally discontinue camera
They certainly heard out, but you were saying
you are- and I know a few ready to admit this- are not necessarily in the upper serve your little incredulous about horoscopes in US astrology. Yes, ok, I was well but that the difference between us is you're, just kind like
mine and, as I was researching a more more as a fist really interesting. I could see you read about this like all day and now that has been brought up and like I could probably do a sceptical, but not with the aim to destroy. It, derives from a sceptic standpoint,
podcast on astrology. I think that that would fascinates me personally they like
if you give one day, maybe so dream yeah
I think we got on that because, as having a hard time wrapping my head around a couple of my can say scientific parts. But a couple of these, I fancy sides. He parts of this and I kept going back to buy, cares it's not real.
So it's hard for me to commit to the learning of it and we tippit.
we have a thing where it's like you, don't Pooh Pooh people's beliefs
We're not really do that here, but there have been a couple of occasions. Words is kind of like this is there's just no way. One of them was crop circles yeah. I'm. I don't plan on Poohpooh this threw out, but I think it's good for us to stay
our police from the gecko learnt so that we don't mislead anybody's who does believe in it. Well, here's I added I had my
stir logical chart done once you did yeah didn't like, seek it out and pay
for it. My friends, mom is really.
Into this, and she asked me what time she's like. If you want me to do your chart and am sure so she did much art
I remember looking at and thinking I go out of- this kind are like when you
Your son sign we'll go hand say that's what most like
I can tell MRS what sign or you yeah or if you read your Daily Horoscope ass, its based on your sunshine, but I would look at things like that or, like my whatever my year, is in the chinese Zodiac unthinkable wow. I am some of these things right, but then I'm like not about half of those things church, so I just think it's interesting
But I think it's interesting as well yet again prone standpoint aware, I don't actually believe its effective, a real, but just the thought put into it and Ed wrote this article, the grab stir near and he makes a really good
saying like even if you don't believe it or not getting your your chart done is interesting in and of itself
so sure, and at the very least, it's going to force you to be a little more interest directive about yourself, then than you normally would be because you're being present
Basically like here's, your personnel
we're going to the cosmos, and you can't help but think what like my introspective am. I do I,
the things on fire. I think anything that can spur self reflection is valuable in some ways. Yes, I think that's where it
like I would go to palm reader. Just did know what that's like right, but I would
leave. Thinking like oh boy wrote my wife is set out before me exactly you know Nancy Reagan. I will get to that so but spoiler, I am not nets irregular
we, we should probably say for those of you who are confused. They like
Are they Poohpooh images like this? Is the science of of Neil digress taste
Carl Sagan understand and which are
astrology, not astronomy right. So astrology is basically the idea that distant objects on the cosmos, planets stars constellation specific
we have an influence on our lives and events on the planet right, very old. I saw it as far back as five thousand years ago,
people were starting to develop astrological systems. I saw more frequently
three thousand years ago, at the Babylonians that western astrology kind of started to develop yeah sure we talk about history, a little better. I think I finally figured out my beef with it.
what should I hold onto that or should we talk about history? First, that's up to you, men. How do you wanted to play out
don't forget if you hang onto
underwrite beef at the top of my page.
It's gonna, you're gonna make yourself at this issue later. Ok, so it's like momentum, a combat
that. So history, we
go back in the way back machine away way back to ancient times to Babylon,
when, basically people we-
you're goin back to Babylon. Basically, when P
were alike.
Looking around at everything and gone I'll, get it I why,
all the stuff happening, glided earth, this open up and swallow yet Ishmael wise. It raining wise. It not raining. Are the crops doing well? Why are they doing terribly
while it was that son up half the day and down half the day, so, as
human started to get a little more about intelligent, but
inquisitive inquisitive as about say, answer seeking but inquisitive his work for them.
they started or answer Suki. They started to make things up that made them feel better.
About what was going on right, I mean they dig, did apply
Certain measure of science to which is where a lot of people who believe in astrology get the idea that its scientific at some
in some ways they perform because it does involve.
the movement studying and tracking the movement of the planet's ia and the constellations, the cosmos right. Yeah
good point back then astronomy and astrology were the same thing right right, because you took those observations, astronomy and the new year
use them to predict or explain the step that was going on here on earth right, which we now call astrology right yet, but you are, you know what they called it back
they called it
reality, probably so, but it wasn't just
Babylonians, who are doing this like all over the planet. Basically, every culture that ever lived had some sort of asteroids
system yeah the Aztecan Incas in the minds and South America, they had zodiac of twenty symbols, including things like earthquake.
An ape and rain
and when they
died out, they took it with him like that. Doesn't have any that didn't seep into modern forms of astrology like the Babylonians violence, no spanish, Jesuit
Saying so, can you explain your astrological system through in Inca Emperor that was being tortured to death?
the Chinese, of course they had their own by a thousand b c and they had to
four divisions in a year, yet they had like the most complex one, probably of all time, not surprising, why that's not surprising, they are complex people, maybe
why, when I think of the Zodiac, I think of them
Western zodiac the end then China
Zodiac, diameter and
The only thing I knew about chinese Zodiac coming Anne was what year
animal. I was what are you from the menu at the Chinese? Restaurants? Are I learned to tear them the dog? Oh I'm a dragon raw wolf! Jerry are your cat. She does me out
that was weird her first.
Think that it's just me out, there is a year. They care the AL, Stuart Song by you
you're the fish Jerry
to do it more journeys said that she was the ox ear of the ox, but whether she me out but which is called upon to do in animals answer me ass. He asked what have access oxen me out, maybe an ox that was
raised by cat sure in it. Imprinted might learn me out. I think this region
was saying this. It's gettin silly,
the horse governs getting silly, as is their gas leaking.
In October.
They don't know about all right so back to China.
Twenty four divisions. Twenty eight part lunar zodiac and then the twelve branches that call
to the animal and then those animals have. First,
Subdivisions like you could be a fire dog or water dragon right which
it's that suffered a minute to yet I didn't know that you could be like in elemental animal. I thought it was a straight up animal,
none of that either the would like that one,
about astrology, no matter what system you're looking at there's like ours,
this one layer and then add the seller layer in another layer in another layer right. That's it fascinates me, it's just the thought. It's gone into sure what
Babylon, though,
but he may well mean oh, oh does
the origin of the western beer and
Here is where it becomes painfully obvious that a strong
can't possibly be corrector real and achieve Hut say so our idea,
of the constellations here in the west came from the ancient babylonian people and astronomers and astrologers who looked up, and they said oh Mamma,
is read so bog can be read to Mars,
the Associated WAR right this candidate
that made it up and that is fundamentally the basis of astrology yeah stuff that was
made up by the Babylonians can't possibly be true. It's just barely a fact
the other. Big thing is the Babylonians divided the Zodiac into twelve equal parts, but
adding to their own stories. They were thirteen constellations,
in the Zodiac, so they just picked one and left it out. Yes,
wages of choose. Am I tell you said there of the edges
I don't know man, I've never tried.
Say that out loud Opie age. I, U c h? U s! It's like the hidden Zodiac symbol. Well,
hidden they discover said. Twelve can works out better right, so, let's just leave it out.
And if the Babylonians prove anything is that for thousands of years, humans have always preferred things to be nice and tidy and neat and are likely to be messy, because if you really look at what they were trying to do its super messy, so, for example,
If you are dividing the night sky and twelve trying to assign a month to each horoscope, you got
installation slap in over into other zodiac size or the,
Actual movement of the constellations behind the sun is.
What way less than a thirty day standard yeah, I think Scorpio is actually in line with the sun,
about seven days out of the year there were as one
one of the other ones is around for like forty five days, I believe. Yet again, I don't think we even said what that means. The mayor s wearing that, where we should, we should start from the beginning showings. Yet we get the history down near. Do you wanna take a break first. Yet when I get check my horse scope and see if it says we
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we're lucky for us, the Horoscope said finnish show, it said: ask again later
Its had finished show the magic. I take it easy on me. Yeah hey
I offer jerks. Eighty
resolved to not poopoo astrology ere. I think the first thing I did
was launch into air? I'm sorry astrology, so we should get to the basics of all this and
we will do this, there's two things that we have to point out: one we would have to spend years
researching astrology to really get everything right. Yes to, even if we spent years researching astrology, we would still
it's stuff wrong, depending on who you are because there is a lot of contradictory things like, for example, I saw that the moon is a fire sign. I also saw that the moon,
socio with water, yeah how's that well, I think they're just been so many
rotations over the years that it's you know been, can a mixed together. Ok, so we are going to get
set will contradict your understanding of astrology, I'm quite sure, but for the most part, I think feeling for sticking to the base.
so we can get it fairly right right,
yeah I mean the most basic thing. Is Sun sign astrology, which is really just seeing where each planet was
your born the day you were born, that's them a simplistic,
look at it right and when you ask somebody, what's your sign you what your sign see: Pisces, ok, I'm cancer! All that saying
there that on the date of our births, the Pisces Constellation allegedly was behind the sun as it rose red and when I was born, the cancer constellation was behind the sun
rose in the I like to think the sunshine and brighter when we were born, but probably get prove that meant that no, but you can just make a pretty good assumption.
So the way that you do this as you basically take the sun and the earth in its orbit around the sun, which equals a year,
and you draw a line in arrow, even from the earth may put it flat lay flat. I forgot to say that
and you make it you drawn arrow from the earth through the sun and then out the other side of the sun and wherever they arrows pointing, which is actually what the opposite side of the sun opposite to earth, whatever constellation. That is that your son right, pretty simple stuff right
So you can think of the if, if you thought of a circle around each
if you look at it as a circle, each sign with
be its own little zone zone, exactly a pizza slice, a pie slice year her if you have a swede, toothpaste,
tooth you're gonna go with either one of that right. What about cake? I guess a cake to you. Take her pie both. What's your favorite Jake, I like a good cocoanut cream, Kay
cocoanut fasting cake. I, like your favorite pie, possibly gonna green by now. Actually it's on a girl. I heard
say I q, a good key lime pie. Blowing does Cheesecake constitute pie. I think you just open up a hornets ass. Well, I love cheesecake. Basically, I know really discriminate
I've learned. I recently started trying cherry pie and I was like: where have you been my whole life? Why did I
discriminate against ETA, which has been sitting there in the pie, safe right rotting because no needs cherry by anymore.
And then I came along and aid all the rotten Jerry Pie and love.
What about you came by? Oh, I love the good key lime highs.
You're sand, but I don't eat a lot of either you don't.
cake and pirates, the house is probably a good man. I don't really deserted the restaurants either. So does neither probably more cake just because cakes for the occasion sure dessert, like people bringing cake for a birthday soared over any anyway public's cake, is awesome, standard cake with his utter cream. I think they're there
Oh Chuck, I'll bring a slice like a good peak empire, but oh yeah, there's a good tat eat the Peking now, but I used to not like the nuts I dislike set off, because I like that, the jelly you give the candied can't yeah, but now don't now has now grown up and become
hi pumpkin pie, sure I'm Goin, Olenin Pie, never think about. Ok, wait till you try the public's king. There were.
Oh sorry, we talking about how's your pay places right.
need. One of those slice is one of the twelve constellations.
Zodiac right
Ok, so, wherever, wherever the earth, whatever consolation, is opposite the earth on the other side of the sun, that's your son signed an right. When you were born that constellation
has a bunch of different personality trades and they are basically imbued onto you. You
born under that sign, which means you are going to have those personality traits. That's the point of. What's called the sun sign, that's right in western astrology there you can subdivide it.
The three groups mundane astrology- and this is basically what what
your aim with these Monday
strategies, examines world events and makes predictions about big things like the economy and war in two,
It's already astrology seeks to make predictions very specific ones or analyses for related events. Are you
life, maybe like for you, the individual yeah more lightly
it's like when you when somebody says they'll, consult the stars to see what the best course of action is. That's where the right amount, which,
I get overlaps with the last one. I think that all three of them could death like if you're doing like a serious chart to figure out something a deep dive. You you would.
bubbly do all three so that be NATO astrology.
Birth, astrology yeah! That's when you read Daily Horoscope and that's based on the idea that everything that have
Someone is expressed by the very beginning. Like that moment, you born
right, but, ironically, the moment you're born at the moment. You are conceived, throw really that's when the astrology starts not the moment, you can see
but the moment you were born right, but the idea this love begin.
He says that the moment you're born the stars. Basically
everything your life predestined and therefore predictable. If the person knows how to read the stars correctly, that's the basis of astrology here and there,
What you would come up with these predictions discharge, that is, your horoscope,
that's right, and then there are different the signs that can be sub grouped into four elements
like I'm, a water sign, your waterside we're both waterside. Some of that.
so far ass. I be areas LEO Sagittarius.
Enthusiasm, action, leadership, open to change,
water signs. Besides cancer Pisces, you get Scorpio
emotion, sensitivity and compassion or signs tars, Virgo, Capricorn practicality and a focus on material goals. Then air signs, gemini, Labour and Aquarius into signifies intellect right and those of the big groupings. The elemental
Rubik's right, so here we can come up with another layer right yeah lay since each side
Each sign on its own has its own qualities like, for example, the cancer,
very domestic imaginative, thorough shy, interested in the past and tradition. That's me all over is really all those things yeah. Basically
and by the then, you lay over the water sign right that it's a water sign, so that adds to the emotion or the sensitivity of the compassion of it that the where really starts to get interesting is
the idea that there is a relationship between the element in the sign in
those are, with the cardinal fixed immutable right with an eye
resistant to change your able to change or what's cardinal, just general move
cardinal is that it moves right. So so these three things it's like a
all other layer and am basically so they have to do with these sources. In the equinoxes we should say: there's a couple of kinds of western
astrology one is Siberia which follows the movement of a star. So your birth sign is siberian astrology yeah there's another one called tropical there really just has nothing to do with the stars. It's the idea that around the,
In the cosmos and the Zodiac is fixed and
really has nothing to do with the stars, as do the sun's relative position to the horizon. So, as you do, things like solstice is in Equinoxes yeah,
so when you go into the tropical type of astrology, that's when the cardinal fixed immutable comes up, so a cardinal sign
Right each element has a cardinal sign, so there's four cardinal signs in, for example,
cancer is the cardinal water sign. I write each
and also has for fixed sign, so LEO is the fixed fire sign that has to do they persistence, perseverance, resistance to change, and, lastly, mutable major flexibility.
bullshit suggestible in Germany is immutable air centres for different mutable. Our sons, icy put him altogether and will you have is in
interaction between the elements and the signs themselves yet so that you have sometimes contradictory,
you have things that enhance other things by it
another layer sooner. You have three layers deep of interpretations, but just the sigh and its
to an astrologer to destroy extract,
whatever. However, they want to read it basically like right at makes a point. You can ask a hundred different astrologers to look at your Europe chart and re might give you a hundred different reader
yet because its ultimately, the astrologers interpretation of the information that presented
by the right, the signs and whether there,
our nobler fixed. Her mirror bore what element they are right, while they can also be masculine. Her feminine, which add points out, is not really that can't think of in terms of gender, it's more like the concept of yen and Yang right, which makes more sense
but when I look at mine, Pisces February twenty two march. Twenty
Mutable water, feminine okay. So that's where I am emotional, pure self, sacrificing, sometimes adaptable, sometimes empathetic, almost always religious, not anymore, versatile, chair talkative. Sometimes you you get paid for yet sometimes
really quiet, though, don't want to talk okay Hannah, but that goes against. All astrology often takes on the behaviors of others, and I don't know why that creative. I hope, impractical, pretty practical so like
but more I haven't have, maybe would you say half I feel like you did or maybe more menu seventy thirty year that sounds about, but even still mean that those improve anything no, of course not, but it did just get you to think about yourself exactly right. That's the whole point right from what I understand this intelligent. So you got all these
Frank layers to just you're, just the sign that you're born under right. Yes, but there's even there's even deeper layers to the whole thing
that has to do with the movement of the constellations
the movement of the sun and also
has to do with more than just the sign.
Born under my going you sit down
and you do an astrological chart. You
who is your beer? Basically looking at the position of
We think that take into due account in the cosmos, rather than just where the constellation? What constellations behind the sum in your board wrangle, we're gonna die even deeper into the stuff,
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so shook returnable how we got like the fixed layers.
And am depending on when you were born, where you're born this allowed us to take a new account and where, when meaning, I literally the minute, yes and second, even yeah, because one of these only acts while the
houses. When you add this other layer, the houses of Zodiac near which are the same thing as the
Zodiac signs but their different. In this case they represent the twenty four hour movement of the earth on its axis right
So now you have the added layer time up to the moment that you were born
to create a genuine like astrology chart, so now
you taken into account time and your son signed by all,
want to look around if you're, good, astrologer and say? Ok, where was the moon? What house was the was Venus in and you start to restart the basically go through and find the position of every play,
including the sun and the moon? There and all alone are considered planets right. Asmara astrology goes right and then, when you put all this stuff together, you there's a huge, extremely complex interplay between all these different components. That, or else was to point to the person that you were born ass right, that's. This is where I think I should take
my beef now. Ok, I think it's a good time for that. My beef is the. I couldn't find anywhere.
and this is me looking for science, where there is none. Is why, like that
and the stars, and they all effect who you are and and
what you're gonna be like. I will explain to me: how does it do that,
oh yeah, what what forces? What scientific forces are behind this zero that cause this
now. I can get the what you're saying people
the stars are aligned and these things are all in a certain place in your
be a certain way I will have
to do that it doesn't that's where that's my beef,
I mean it's a legitimate beef there's! No, how now there's not there's none. I guess I'm not hung up on that fact that thing I just can't accept it in
it's almost like coming upon and the beliefs
some of another culture. Yet
so hard and knowing that around, like I don't subscribe to it, but I'm interested in like what what they believe right and how it.
as to their life, but that doesn't mean that I,
believe in it. I just undergone interested in an academic, censier world. Your were curious people I get that
and so get hung up on the fact that it is actually
you'll be interested in from now. I do think it's interesting and I used to read my horoscope here and there just for fun just the same way. I look at a fortune cookie. It's just the parlor trick that to me, though, it's not
but Billina seriously. I think in astrologer, even if aid, even if they said fine, you don't believe in it
it's fine, but is more than a parlor trickling there really sitting down applying this. It takes a tremendous amount of time, calculation dear
a certain measure of of science yet under.
And astronomy, at least because you gotta go figure out when
I was born where what was where right, yeah sure it so
When you're sitting on doing your chart, you were born a Pisces right. Yes, so the Pisces consolation was behind the sun, but
was Saturn and why would centre manner? Well, Saturn is a melancholy planet. Right sure is so if so,
pattern is in a house associated with happiness.
You might have a thread of bitter sweetness that runs through your whole life. That might be one interpretation of it or you might be happy sometimes and sad, sometimes maybe
as every person ever sure I mean yes, definitely and again, I'm not explaining how this works. Him Yang, like this wouldn't astrologer, would would sit down and think or Mars is warlike well
Mars was in.
I don't know how house associated with aggressiveness. You might get and fight your whole life according to this astrology charge. So that's just each planet right
right. Let's say that you have Mars
in a and aggressive house,
and you have Saturn in a happy house. How did those interact with each other
Is that getting invites all the time interact with the bitter sweetness that runs through your life
it's open to interpretation as well, and that's where the astrology, I think I'll same ostrello jest earlier. That even a word, I think, sir. Ok, it didn't seem as it seems like,
for that before? Well, it anyway, that's where they come into play, yes with their varying interpretations, but not just the interpreters
since there are actually gonna sit down figure out. What was where men? What that means.
According to the astrological tradition right and then the third step is for them to interpret it for you right. You don't owe me yet.
So I mean there is a tremendous amount of work to it from what I can tell you
a genuine astrological chart. Your friends mom hooked, you
When you give me that it, she didn't dashed off in five minutes a day that there was math, involve angles and stuff. So
The main thing you're getting if you're, looking like a newspaper or if you have, if your son for some sort of internet Daily Horoscope, is it's usually some
what of personality profile
price on your life,
maybe some sort of map to finances. You might want to think about. You know investing soon, you that's what people probably trouble here, but it's pretty much personal advice stuff, not so much long term, future
right type of thing not like predicting your future, necessarily why they do to the extent of like you'll have a so so data day here today
we rather unremarkable, yeah or like,
at times it can be a think. It's it's like a you know today might be
good day to reach out to an old friend, and if you follow that advice than that's great cause, your old friend probably would want to hear from you. And then you have lunch with that friend, and it goes great and you might say, will see their MIKE. My horoscope said to reach out to
friends, and it went awesome or if we were really horribly you be like. Why are you punishing me star, sour? What if you get killed on the way to the lunch leisure? You know here those stories? No, but that's the great thing about astrology removes personal
responsibility for your decision. That's twenty!
should say also want to. I want to live there
even more layers to the whole thing than what I when I said, I m sure I hope we can get the point across it. There's layer upon
european layer and they all interact with one another, but I mean like a good.
Cultural taken, new accounting whether planet was in.
sure grade, and what that means,
born you know or if its enriched.
great right now, there's so much to it. I think that's what fascinates me well and makes a good point
If this is a true science than it should have, it should pass the master of the of repeatable testing right, which of course it doesn't
No, I really really doesn't, but some other
might say, you know what this is it's beyond science. This is you shouldn't trying quantified in terms of science. This is something that you,
you can't even understand rail near puny,
It cannot explain this yet, MRS outside that round, to something that we don't know and understand and hey I'm a science guy, but I'm not foolish enough to think there isn't anything out there that I maybe don't know about it. We can't prove very healthy
my head is off to you you're forty. In and you don't even know seriously, that's like to me, that's the.
The pinnacle, avoid a thinking person can aspire to. I think that's when he stopped looking when you think that we you know
got it all figured out right, especially when you aggressively
tat other people who say otherwise well yeah, that's it. If this conversation is floating your boat girl suddenly in like manner so those good there was a good one
What to do with that? They have done studies, though, on the viable
of astrology. As far as you know are you are you could
divorce rates other compatible or do they comply with or correlate with, the compatibility of two people and ideologically speaking yeah. They doubt yes, you know, there's puzzled
interaction amongst the signs where, like in a virgin?
don't get along with some Capricorn through something like that and that doesn't hold up through scientific reality. Then, if you cherry pick examples in your life,
course. You might think it does well yeah. That's why a lot of people like astrologers right, it's a selection bias, is what you are encountering you ignoring this stuff that disproves it or that suggest that it's not true
and instead of focusing on the amazing facts, where it lines up right, selection by correct, I think so. I need to know more about all the different vice
It's interesting? We should say another thing: that kind of suggests that asked
Ology is not accurate. The zone
signs are no longer where they're supposed to be here. If you're going by your birth state, for example, I was born life fifteenth, so I will be a cancer. You actually follow the constellation
I'm I'm a German. I really never knew that
so german eyes are concerned with information, highly literate care,
Is your dapple absent minded loved to travel whoa? I am a German, I well so
the reason why, because win astrology was first created the the earth they constantly
These were lined up with where they were originally right, as the earth rotates on his access at wobbles, yeah presiding over the last couple of thousand years. Its walls
old, so that those constellations are no longer where they were when a set them three thousand years,
go right, so today we have totally different. Totally different signs are what would mind
can can I figured out so you were born in the eyes of March. Do still Pisces man, I'm sorry now alive
I am now. I am now a German. I gotta get moves so, let's, let's go through killer
think? A lot of people, though, know this in NASA bogged about it a couple years ago. A really caused a stir is
still a cat ox, Jerry Cherries, birthdays April, something right.
here is a hurt. Your birthday everything's Valentine's day,
I didn't know that Jerry just said her birthdays February. Fourteen because you have to edit out any Jerry, taught Grant Jerry. What are you supposed to be? Normally, you are Capricorn,
new on January, twenty two February sixteenth as far as NASA's concerned, you're Capricorn, so it's
arts and we should say loudly. We said this, but the Zodiac
officially in the west, starts with areas and moves on. Yes, I'm so sorry with Capricorn Cause, NASA's
ignored and start with the beginning of the year, Capricorn Jim
you're, a twentieth two February. Sixteen Aquarius is now February sixteen
the March Eleventh Annual noticed these are necessarily thirty day yeah. Here your close here, you're Pisces March eleven April eighteenth areas, April tenth Dumay, thirteen tourists may thirteenth June twenty first, it's a long one
Gemini June, twenty first, a joy twentieth. That's me! Now: cancer Joy Tonia, two August tenth, I used to be a cancer,
LEO August tenth, the September sixteenth, Virgo September, sixteenth October, Thirtieth Lieber October,
thirty two November, twenty third Scorpio November twenty.
the twenty ninth, that's six days, you get six days, be a Scorpio, Louth Kennedy, O Fucus gathered Longfellow.
November twenty nine December. Seventeenth why crazy, there's p
at their don't even know that their that's
yeah or how to pronounce it right. No one does no one
knows how to pronounce that event. Sagittarius December seventy two January twentieth, wow, I don't even
know anything anymore? No, no and those chuck. I think this is fascinating stuff
thinking a lot lately about what does shape your personality
and what you become in life. As far as
nature and nurture, and some people might throw this in there. I think we should totally do a podcast on birth order.
We have to give us super fascinating to me or whether weather
Hearing your name or the vibrations caused by saying your own name throughout your life has an effect on your personality
However, there are no yeah, supposedly the the vibrations or the frequent
made from hearing in saying your own name. Your life make sure, makes your personality a certain when weird, it's probably not true,
suggesting we tease Ronald Reagan earlier Lloyd and Tease Ronald Reagan, he did, but we can't
about astrology without talking a little bit about the Reagan administration, because
one thousand eighty eight
IRAN and Nancy were out, is sort of exposed year, as is having it astrologer on the payroll to that
of about how much three grand three grand per what reading a month, three grandma. Yet this about
this lady was Workin hard, Jonah Quigley down under.
Nick Medicine, woman and it was revealed that she rode up star charts
and basically detailed, even down to the minute, supposedly depending on who you listen to what Reagan schedule should look like,
so. This lady was definitely doing mundane interrogatory and NATO astrology combined to create a chart, yes for sure,
and chief of staff on Reagan wrote in his memoirs, Emmy he
I mean that this is, as is not a matter of debate or anything. No. This is fairer for real, but Don Regan wrote in his memoirs. He talked about you know capturing the public's attention like that was a big deal because it looked like.
at what was going on was going on, which was a schedule is kind of
determined by an astrologers right ollinger, like you can't
the gourbi today. This is a bad day to propose the SALT Treaty way
until you know, November memory, that's when you talk to Gourbi
and then down Regan would be told by Nancy. He should be
Kinda Gourbi I meet with Nancy Right only met RON once supposedly in and Nancy
downplayed alot. Of course they all dreaded distance. You think his joys so stupid. Well, they say
It was more of a hobby in and she deaf definitely had no impact on decision.
it was really just about scheduling. Ok, what they said, scheduling decisions
but ass. She wrote a book actually Miss Quigley in ninety nine eels couple is the most on
OZ book title of all time. It was called what
Joan, say Colin my seven years as White House.
Ollinger to Nancy and Ronald Reagan by me with young. Do you get it
and she said quote: I was responsible for timing, all press conferences, most speeches, the state of the union addresses the take off and landings of air force One.
I picked the time of run organs, debate with Jimmy Carter and the two debates with my
they'll all extended trips abroad as well as,
ribs and one day, excursions end quote: toe yes!
leaders in the free world, arguably the most powerful
american president in recent memory had his schedule.
determined by an astrologer. So weird, I got a couple more things I, which so
apparently Americans
The time of Reagan Head Hitler,
basically a low in believing in astrology yeah. There were, they did a pole,
after that the news came out and they found that amount
Kim belief overall in astrology was at twelve percent, which is down for
this is an eighty eight, which is down from twenty nine percent. The ten years
four nineteen, which makes total sense like coming off the the hippy age?
goofy said that it was your sign into the very like a kind of cynical late, eighties sure emit aligns perfectly right. The stars someday forget the Cen Nancy,
on that member, so into
and for another Paul found that it had gone back up to twenty nine percent, no idly away and then another pole. I saw that as something
different rather than do you believe in astrology asked. Would you say that astrology coat not at all scientific in two thousand for sixty six per se
American said that into doesn't that it was not signed, not scientific. So basically, they don't believe in a strong Europe, sixty six percent and then two dozen twelve fifty five percent said that process.
We believe in astrology is still on the increase. Interesting, even more
trusting in China. Ninety two percent of the public's, as they don't believe in astrology, compared to about forty five percent here
Lastly, I have one more story or any yet, and there is actually a blog posts
I recalled the genius mural at Saint Johns whereby by you yeah some from years back, but I just came across the stories. Amazing there is this
is called Saint Johns, Anglican church in Scotia and Nova Scotia, and it was bill in seventeen fifty four and it was built with
mural on the ceiling of the night sky with gilded stars, lovely
and they were remodeling the church and they wanted to redo. The mural right recreate
exactly as it had been, but they
is didn't, have any dead on photographs of it, so they had a kind of like figure out what to do
they heard an astronomer and he started
poking around into it, and he
realized that the mural which had been constructed in seventeen. Fifty four was the exact
seen of the night sky over Luneburg on December, twenty. Fourth, one c e,
Christian tradition is the night Christ was born. Somebody in seventeen, fifty four
accurately calculated what the sky had looked like seventeen hundred fifty four years before, while on this
we're twenty fourth and turn it into a mirror. In that amazing amazing, I love that story critical. Yet, let's astrology and whatsoever that story the year
Do you know us genius, move mural at Saint Johns NICE expect anything else nope. I could talk about us all day. You sure I think we did right by it
if you, I know more about astrology, go red Joan Quigley book and, since I said Joan quickly is time for listener map
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