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or sign up today, use that expensive, fi ex p, and as I have why dotcom hey everyone, its Josh and I've chosen for this week's as Y S case liked, or two thousand fourteen emphasis on the inappropriately named collective hysteria. It turns out that people can ever effect on how other people feel and behave. So take this as a sign to be nice in May even soothing to others and well working on that enjoy the super cool episode on some super word. Psychology.

Welcome to stop, you should know the production of Iheart Radio, molten Pakistan Josh clerk with me, as always, is Charles. The reach of Brian Jerry's over their left that makes the study should now got eighteen dizzy. I comforts and fails to put your base I would be a combination of Murdoch and Mr De Gaulle. Your hair is kind of spiky little today, Jerry watching me.

I guess you be. The leader- should be Hannibal smoking a cigar I now making a black glove. When did you start smoking? A cigar? Sir? That's weird very timely. I said eighteen, I don't wanna slag off gas, producing no he's, not exactly beating. Now, of course, of the oh geez, Ok, now that we have that established, we are the odious that's right. We need bowling shirts that say as much on the bad. You feeling good feeling nauseous and dizzy o chuck.

Happened to see somebody else who is nurses and dizzy? Well, Jerry was last week and then you more people in the office I disfigured. We all had the same thing. I omit to diagnose this. Ok, it's called collective hysteria, also known, I think, more appropriately as mass psychogenic disorder. Ya. Think when you add the word hysteria to this, it takes a certain dimensions that a lot of people could find very objectionable you're in a hysterics hysteria. It's like gum dogs and cats living together, yeah, but I think it has, as it has a definite gender specific connotation to it. From for the years like women were supposedly hysterical. Show that the idea of diagnosing somebody as hysterical under any circumstances is tantamount to panting up

mom ahead, the here nice lady, he right ear, just a little hysterical. You just go calm down and bake something bright, stopping crazy here, no mass psychogenic disorder instead It is this kind of like woe. Your brains did something pretty neat yeah, and that is the case for mass psychogenic disorder. Fear me in this article Chuck room by Jacob Sermon, Jeopardy champion, yeah. What do you want on jeopardy them? Some a champion ray? I think so. He wasn't like that the ultimate champion, but he wanted a couple episodes right, which is why they should have a word for sir. I guess leg. Champion is like the one you want at all. Can Jennings or Watson who set the IBM computer here. So jeopardy wonder Jacob Silverman wrote this article nears back and he did a pretty good job, citing a contemporary outbreak of mass

projecting disorder that have been going on around that time, down a mixed Cote D. Mexico way in Charcoal Mexico at a boarding school there I will apparently was a girl's boarding, school and the girls. I went to school rages, twelve to seventeen and all of a sudden they started there is an outbreak yeah a weird outbreak. There was vomiting, I believe, trouble walking. There was fever, yeah, that's weird larger, and so the the people running this boarding school, like what's going on does not good yeah and they had no idea. The girls went on Christmas break for ten days came back. Anything just took off again like wildfire. Yes, six hundred of the three thousand six hundred girls on, show the symptoms and nobody could figure it out. They did a lot of tests. They brought in people to like check out the facilities and cuz we'll see, there's a trend there,

now here in the west? They start to blame it usually on, like environmental poisoning of some kind right in other some sort of talks ensure isn't that is ways and everybody they didn't find anything there and Eventually, they said this is what you call it psychosomatic mass psychogenic disorder, ok mass like a disorder. But now that is one of the one of the names, its mass psychogenic disorder, collective hysteria, mass hysteria or mass psychosomatic reaction near saying the same thing they are, which is you're, not well but you're not really sick. But that is not exactly true, because that's one thing that the different shades, this room- something is just in your head- is you actually do manifest visit something right. Yeah, there's an article written by a M D named Timothy Jones from the Tennessee Department of Health. back in the heavy days of two thousand the year, two thousand the future,

and he writes that you, if you are experiencing mass psychogenic disorder, it is not just in head that the symptoms are. You have are actually very real, even though no toxic cause, they couldn't find some sort of environmental poisoning or anything like that. The symptoms are extremely real yeah, it's just psychosomatic. It is basically the brain has been tricked ended, causing this spots yeah, and this has happened. They ve documented about eighty cases throughout history and apparently the National Institutes of Health gets about two cases per week, a reported but am which is, I mean, like that's that's way, more common than than you would think you know yeah. I would think to be more than eighty Kissimmee. These have happened. If you go back and look at, I mean there's all sorts of crazy list on the internet about these cases. That date back to like the fourteen

injury. Medieval dancing mania was optimum yeah, the dancing plague, yeah yeah, that's in their Salem Witchcraft, trial, sure or the Salem craft. I guess what led to the trials was supposedly contributed to this kind of thing, yeah, one weird thing about this condition and is more times the night. It is affects. Females yeah and young females, even more specifically teenagers or even younger, which is as far as it goes right now inexplicable, and it's kind of prickly issue. You know like again, you can come back to the idea of calling hysteria near you, don't the fact that it does ten to afflict women her girls. More than than boys is apparently one means of diagnosing psychogenic disorder, massacres,

others like one of the first thing, I will say, is like others: the sickness is happening in this place. The school wherever and the doktor will say that a bunch of girls yeah and then that will clue the men aid. This might be what we're dealing with here and the, but the problem is no one has any idea why, in there ve been explanations of things like come, I guess girls. This is this. Is girls culturally acceptable outlet for raging against the patriarchy sure, even if they don't necessarily feel that that's what they're doing this? Is there then This is the symptoms of that that's one yeah. I thought this is a pretty interesting part. What articles at from slate others, yet one called them. Mass Assyria, Upstate New York by Ruth Graham Watson, Slight, those again what is really going we'll get to that case in a sack, but I'm the authorities,

mentioning. One party says that this is a quote from someone writing about something and said: inform if not in conscious intent is to protest. The sexual repressive ness rigid double standard of female teen culture, but they're running about Beatlemania, yeah, which is interesting because it's sort of has a similar vibe of Young ladys being repressed. Not having an outlet, and so they see the Beatles and they go, but zirk right and faint and cry and scream collectively, whereas boys, there more proteids act out of their not feeling good. Girls are trained to keep things inward May I also point out that Ladys and in young ladys are more prone to seek the doctors help for something they say that may account for the by us right there right, like ISIS, will go the doktor exactly you have to be. Following an just diagnosing mass psychogenic disorder. You physician

out there who are listening. That counter a case like this, just by basing it on the fact that it is affecting more, girls than boys, because at least one case in great Britain, where I think girls were afflicted by more than half more than double the number of girls were afflicted by this, and it turned out that their retaining cucumbers being served in in the lunchroom yeah, then, when those boys, eight cucumbers, and so I mean there's a little needed to contain the, but this is one of the issue with dealing with mass psychogenic disorder. In that it looks and acts a lot like some sort of weird epidemic that basically, it looks like either a something like bioterrorism, yeah awry. Thirdly, spreading affection infection or affection of surety, Romania and then acute toxic exposure. That's what it looks like it's like one person gets sick. This is your index case

and all of a sudden, everyone around them suddenly has the same symptoms. Yeah, and it's like you said it super dangerous to just dismiss that it's all in your head, silly little, ladies, you can't do. That is what, if it is something for real but it is also a double edged sword. Is that doctor pointed out you or are ordering batteries of test in it it it can go both ways again, but what the old saying, as if you're enough tests are gonna find something right? So it can feel that fire, but you also can't not run any test and just dismiss it. So it is a very fine line that physicians walk when dealing with stuff like this, which are indeed apparently study of mass, like a genetic disorder has found that is more prevalent in ice

communities and in situations where there are highly rigid, formalize structured rules like a catholic School in Mexico Exact, here or again sailor Massachusetts in the seventeenth century. Here you know an apparently between ninety seventy three and ninety ninety three half of all the outbreaks of psycho genetic psychogenic illness took place in schools, so that's it possibly impart by ever do to kids beings. It is susceptible to more right, but so because of that that rigid formalize structure, yeah and there's also usually a top down effect, like it'll start with a teacher or an older student and then the younger students follow suit, which, if you're talking influence, would make sense for sure there is one very famous,

face apparently there's not very many actual academic studies on this year, but there's one came out of the New England Journal, a medicine yeah that that described a case in ninety. Ninety eight in Tennessee, where a teacher noticed some weird gas, odor, aghast odor yeah like the chemical kind you're, not like the gown, the front rotated right exactly and she apparently started suffering symptoms and all of a sudden. I, like a hundred and eighty six,

Consider teachers had to go to the emergency room. The school was shut down for two weeks. They did all this environmental testing couldn't find anything in finally traced back to psychogenic amass psychogenic disorder. There that's what did it and then everyone, then? What most of these cases we should point out everyone. It starts feeling better, yes, like in Mexico and then that school in Tennessee its it that it's not like they went on to die or anything yeah. So in the school in Mexico, the these girls or at a boarding school. They were only allowed to see their parents who think like three times a year, yet they couldn't even call. It's like it sounds more like a prison right, no foreign, they're allowed letters when they went home immediately. Their symptoms cleared up near the poem that doesn't automatically say our is obviously mass psychogenic disorder

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so the noticeable effect. We talk, That is why the placebo effect that makes sense here I was trying to be more clever, thought we were more clever no see bow. I think we said in that other podcast, whose latin for I shall harm, and that's basically, whereas you take a placebo thinking, it's gonna help you out and it does help you out and because the mind is powerful, the no see both act is thinking. Something bad will result like teachers getting sick. I think I feel a little sick to run away my neighbors feeling a little sick. I think I'm feeling a little sick do or this this drug trial that I mine. I was told that I could possibly get some sort of gastro intestinal distress, and even though I have been given a sugar Phil right, I'm now going because of my mind, because of the North Sea border effect,

a famous experiment or case from eighteen. Eighty, six, where there was a woman who arose allergy and they showed her artificial rose and she began to. I guess it was convincing and she began to have her allergic reaction and they said: aha, its fake and your faking, and she said, oh well, I think I'm feeling better now and supposedly that murder of her real allergy to wrote real roses right, I can finally to back that, but as it is you will know that Armenia was in terror, the journal, but really well you. I was a real thing and I didn't I didn't get to them, bottom of why they presented this woman with a fake rose or whatever, but they definitely didn't. This definitely happen here and there

Even though the author of the study was saying like this woman, she wasn't faking right. It was like she, she had real symptoms, church, hives or hives. Exactly see those. I think they call it like a rose cold or something like that. You can get. You knows stuffy. Your eyes or watering you're on your nose is running. That kind of thing and was interesting, is some. Researchers have studied the no seeber effect and they basically as have isolated this, this chemical, that gets released when the no civil affects going on.

And again we should say it's not just making your nose runner releasing, has yet means, or anything like that is pain to like you can you can experience pain, even though nothing's there to give you pain right just because of the no seeber effect. What they found was a a, I guess, a hormone. I believe, a ready, a minute. Try this one color system cannon at some great thanks man had looked at the word, but it sounds right: color, sister Kin, India, you see in an area that solar, I tell it, so it's a hormone right and it gets released in it. Actually, it helps you experience. Pain now has a nasty little hormone. Yes, but they found in testing with it

no see both fact that if you block this, you can also block the no seeber effect. So that proves to things does at black pain, though yeah your pain, receptor. Yes, so does that mean if you slam, your mandatory, won't feel it if you can block this? Yes, so if you can block color system cannon right, yes, it will keep you from hyper since fifty two pain, I believe, and this guy named Fabrizio Bene. Daddy, I think, is also in the strokes back and ninety ninety seven. There was a Fabrizio right here. He was testing out, the North Sea were affected on that, if you told people that he was giving them an injection which is it it's a pretty cruel test but effective, yet these posts are people who had just come out of surgery were given an injection and told this injection skin and increase your pain in thirty minutes. I'm sorry. We have to give it its part of the procedure who gave some people an injection of sailing

and they reported an increase in pain and they all went behind the to a mere and laughed right, they'll, including white, whilst hidden there. I am ends, and then they gave somebody like the other group, the control group, a chemical, an injection that blocks that pain, but they were told that it was going to increase or paint right, but they are given a chemical that blocks colors system cannon and the noticeable effect in take place that ending report an increase in paint, even though they were told they would yes, while so they. So this guy saying like the no seeber effect, is real yegg when when they say it's not just in your head sure your experiencing the same thing as if you are experiencing somebody stabbing you well. What is it a real aim? Ghana, because only able to start asking yourself those deep philosophical question right interesting There is another case: debts,

they ve ever seen the movie safe. The Todd Haines movie with Julian. More know from like the mid nineties and she played a lady that started to have environmental sickness just in the air and she's got a sort of like increasingly crazy, as the movie went on as far as scrubbing things and locking herself in her house who make the House, a clean environment and great. It was good and in those there's a true story, though, of a lady in London named Debbie Berge he's a health spot manager that says that she's, ok, to a math electromagnetic fields and its actual thing now, in others more than her claiming it's called yes, electro magnetic sensitivity where she has basically transformed her house, she painted it black. She said: she's allergic to computers. Cell phones

ichor waves, she had her house required to make it basically enough. Three she and her husband sleep under a silver plated mosquito nets to keep out radio waves. and covered our windows with protective films in such feel much better. Now, so I saw that yes, like idyllic sensitivity that if you exposed somebody to a elect magnetic field, and then just tell them that you are in don't year. They have the same reaction. We hurried suggest that it's, it's no sego, while its super fascinating cause. You ceased cases like this from that to black gluten sensitivity, becoming a big thing now, and people on people contend that, oh, it's, maybe a collective hysteria going on India. If you think you're gonna be sensitive, the gluten, then you're gonna be sensitive to things that contain gluten, and I'm not saying that people cassettes very hot topic, sure it is, but

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so check back in two thousand seven in New Zealand yeah, a drug called the EL toxin. Who is a pretty well, it spread dragon in New Zealand, a hormone replacement drug, and it was the only one that the government would pay for. So most people who were this hormone replacement therapy raising L chosen and it had been that way for like decades there is this an established drug Glaxosmithkline both for the hormone replacement of a Glaxosmithkline. I think just those there's no welcome involved changed just the I'd like the outer, the inner qualities of it like the shape of the pill,

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One of the risk factors from mass psychogenic disorder is the media they only spread through the media most easily yeah it's there point though I mean I know in this article two, it points out that pills at her blue and green are usually associated when drowsiness. Pills in orange or yellow or not? I don't know, that's why they market that way or fits the opposite. Is we do see it that way because of products like Michael and equal rights, but the one that makes you sleep is green and blue and the one that keeps you awake or not? Keep you awake but doesn't make you drowsiness orange. I thought about it. I think it and what are you associate with, like daytime sunrise, Yellow orange and rarely make sense? What are you associate with nighttime like something out equal, like blue. Scotch diameter yeah, you I mean you think of a better. I think it came from. I think the pills came after the

radiation rather than the other way around yeah. I think I even like when I get a prescription for something. When I see the pill, I make a judgement on it before I even had it just by Saint look at that thing or that of a that yeah, it's a horse pillar, that's a capsule with me. You know powdery stuff inside that I see different, then the chalky when it's you and they need to make an association. I don't think I have any preconceived notions on what a larger pill will do to me right or a capsule will do to me other than a tablet, but I think it's interesting, though, how you make these judgment calls, but without even thinking about yeah totally. You know I mean, like you, you, you probably don't sit there and look at telling your hand you just take it and just make some sort of almost unconscious judge it's about it yet may remind you another pill that helped you that you're, not even remembering exactly so that would be placebo, yeah. That's great noticeable effect, not great posed.

no and poses a lot of problems. For instance, there is study. I think in the nineties that found women who believed that they were prone to heart. Disease were four times clear to die of heart disease. Then women, who didn't believe they're prone to it, even though they had all the exact same risk factors. Basically, the same risk risk factors. There is nothing differentiating these women aside from a belief that they were going to die from heart disease or of a belief that they weren't yeah that led to a four time fourfold increase in in deaths. That just basically from a belief, is what it suggests. Yeah we well it's sort of. Like the I know, it's can achieve

but the p M, the positive mental attitude. I think we all know someone who walks around ozone so Seko, unknown, gonna get it right. Now, I'm gonna get sick or you know I just know: I'm gonna get cancer because it runs in my family that I think that has an effect on thing. I have to agree. I know some of our more sceptical listeners will are pulling their hair right now, but I totally agree with you when we did our show in Toronto on the way back at you mean I, the Buffalo now and I feeling a little down by like at the point where I feel like you can talk yourself into staying healthy, positive mental Antigua, getting what you call it vehement, but we were leaving right at about dusk, and the sun was just beaming through the window, and illuminating every single, no money crowded visible microbes in the air and sea then, let's get going into my nose, my mouth and am I I couldn't stop like I couldn't. I was like I'm not gonna, get sick and knock

The second man did. I ever get sick there, but I noticed that right when we took off and no you know, do somebody shut one of their. Their window covers yea the shade shade on exactly so. Where that looking for somebody shut their shade and I couldn't see it anymore and I immediately started to feel less symptomatic. While me ITALY is like turning off alight near and I still got sick, was just drowning in in basically what my brain was interpreted is like being assaulted by foreign invaders, which I am I the time church. I normally can't see them yeah, I do that all the time when I open my the curtains and in the bedroom. I'll see you in the morning I'll see that stuff in the air- and I think our man- that's what I'm walking round through right, breathing energy, new dog here and CAT Heron, Emily Hair, so

lungs discharge so or another. One of the problems is poses Chuck for physicians is that we expect doctors or we want actors to be transparent. Do not! Why do us, yet we thought a lot about the slightly if you like mere we ve talked a lot about diseases. Some of her ipo contract listeners have been like please, first I thought I told you about diseases, Now I've got more alive. It's I'm gonna have like some sort of toxic accelerator. Attacks applies, mosey up and then very soon, leprosy spoiler, so that the problem is, if you tell somebody that's going into surgery hey by the way, you know you, you might have trouble walking yeah. You might feel nauseous for the next six months

but like all this stuff, it could be associated with which we demand from our doktor. Here it's been shown that if you are fearful or in despair going into surgery, that's associate. With longer healing times and a higher risk of post operative infection right. So if you have the no seo effect where doctors are saying If I tell somebody in improving time after time, the in drug trials, people who are still are given placebo, will drop out of drug trials because their experiencing these negative side effects are even other given sugar pill. So if your doctor and you you know that you're telling somebody something that ultimately may end up harming them and Eve sworn an oath to do no harm, you ve got a conundrum going on right now, that's the no seeber effect poses it's the problem than us. He will

It poses for modern physicians like how much should they tell you, Ve Irena tell somebody that they're gonna feel nauseous for six months, even though they probably won't give. Should you tell them and give them a chance to give to basically have the psycho smash symptom or tell are going to feel great wants another. When somebody says the solution is just frame it differently. Right, like don't say, there's chance. You're gonna have the knowledge for six months, say: half of a per cent of patients who go through the same procedure that you're about to go through have knowledge for six months. Ninety nine point: five percent: don't write your gun in the same information. It's just frame more positively yeah and that one doktor who read the article on collective hysteria said what he recommends. Not naming the illness yes said that can help out, because, as soon as you give something an aim, then it just

Certainly, you know you have something you can call it never everyone's calling it that are the media picks up on it right and it's a thing yet Actually again, one of the one of the risk factors in the spread of mass, like a genetic illness, is the larger the response the emergency medical responds to a year and then hence the larger, the media response to it. The larger the outbreak tends to be is called line of sight exposure here, just knowing somebody is sick or seeing, Somebody sick can give you the same symptoms. I'm sure, if you see a new story, that all the other news agencies are running that says, there's been some a weird chemical leak in the air in Atlanta people start walking around coughing Santa I'm not feeling so good? I have a bitter taste in my mouth of theirs. Microbes everywhere. Will here's a case from the article. You said that I think is super fascinating. The one in abstaining your idea, because it is not a rash or a cough or not

It is correct syndrome. in your old young lady name, Lorry Branwell What year was this couple years ago? Ghana, to all your think, tourism, twelve in Corinth New York was at her schools coming dance and lost consciousness. This is, she had landed a concert. Sorry, math are you gonna leave some test far yeah she's had being at a concert. I wish you a cancer that was so near to it and find it anywhere apparently passed out there and had passing outfits. Involuntary twitching and clapping started twisting her hair for your fingers. I pay pay starting stuff like that, and the doktor said you know you ve got to read syndrome so tread syndrome is, is we ve had a Pike S Ontario rate is not psychosomatic, but since that time

Jeanne other students, along with her thirteen girls in one boy started exhibiting at La Roy Junior High school, untried junior senior high school started coming down. threats, right, which is not, can He just that. It's not contagious at all. Aaron Brocklebridge got on the case. Famous environmental act and she said now. I think this has got to do with his trained irrelevant. Nineteen, seventy that dump cyanide all over this town- and I didn't see where they found any legitimate effects. Again, that's the confounding thing about mass psychogenic disorders. There. It is still possible that there is some weird toxin in the environment that is causing this like, maybe there was exposure to sign either gotten these people's brains in gaol gave them to read

and if you stand back and look at it, you like to you to read syndrome, isn't contagious. That doesn't mean that ran all come down the threat syndrome from exposure to attacks in its distill. It's this x factor this out there Kansas necessarily rule out. We had earlier- and I believe in that case too, the those fourteen students didn't end up with threats and room. There was a good episode, man, loved tourists and room one near an eighty year old, even agree in all came from her banging that's how it started at mass at a nickel back show yak. His current is near Canada. Canada is a white nickel back out any longer originally had engaged in their new ice. There's another case of the toxic lady Julia, this one on riverside California, woman in Gloria Ramirez, seer she's, dubbed the toxic lady nineteen any for she had cervical cancer was being treated,

and all the medical staff started to get sick. That was treating her. The sounds gross, but they said her body exuded, a garlicky, fruity smell and her blood head flex of what looked like paper, which are becoming more violence actually like that, and they said- that most of the people that got sick while treating her were women. More women than men and they all took a blood test and came back normal in the health department, said mass hysteria So that's funny because I looked, I remembered that story and I wonder if there was mass hysteria and I looked at and I found that knows, an environmental tax. Oh it was that's what I found so they called it necessary the time and then later found out. I think like a year or two later choose using some sort of San have or something on her skin,

and I think that in interacted with her biochemistry and really did produce talks a toxic gas, she said it. Maybe this fruit, garlic surf, that's interacting badly with my pancreas out. This list needs to be updated. Then there is a fascinating case. It is people got really sick from that. I think I remember hearing about that too long. They found a real cause in that case, when I use it, but that's it. That's that's the point like right. The you can say will. Obviously those women were more effective than men, where I was I because there's more women in the nursing profession, and there were more nurses in the room there. Maybe there's a lot of different things. You have to take into account before you just write it off. Sometimes at Israel like sick building syndrome, yeah, that's a tough one, because in after the OPEC oil embargo. Now, apparently, people started design.

Buildings to be more air tight, so your ventilation ventilation system was really important year and these buildings have an aids necessarily very well. So the ventilation system is not doing what is supposed to any longer, and so they think, possibly that's leading to what You know a sick building syndrome which is Malays. It's when you don't feel good when you gotta wear her exactly, which is everybody some states have found like. No, that is the better predictor of sick building syndrome, is job stress or job. This, as faction, is that if you have a building full of people who die their jobs, you can have a building. Full of people was sick, Billy, But if you go on to say like a local governments website whatever you look at signalling system, it is treated as a real thing. Yeah, why definite affects your gastrointestinal, like stress, does well also, apparently, King set off balance

asthma, which is another reason why we think it might have something to do with like volatile organic compounds in the ventilation. Some new carpeting that kind of stuff off gassing many Miss Milner, Stephanie open up a new product Riah. There is also the dance plague, which we mentioned briefly tell me about it, Frau trophies July fourteen fifteen eighteen when on the streets of Strasbourg, France started dancing, even though there was no music and dancing like a maniac for three straight days, and all these people started dancing. Whether saying this is the time said within a month a hundred people were dancing with her and couldn't stop hyper ventilating hallucinating, some drop dead of heart attack and stroke and exhaustion and the authority said wishes are banned and let him faint dance it out who, because they ve got the hot blood, is what. All that, and so they did and a lot of people.

as a result, it said for him people in the end were struck, thou think they died, but were dancers right and then it just stopped and that's one. Blame alot of people blame on UR got poisoning which we mentioned before we go with Ergo poison, Ahab Island. Those people clearly trip on something they got the hot blood, but what it sounds like you just described is basically how Tom Hanks invented jogging in the seventies, jogging higher started running and people following. I wish that part had been cut a movie. A real yeah thought that there was a weird thing that should have been on the editing room, for they really can't derail things for awhile. For me, I'm gonna get movies age, whether in and for other people say, though, that it was sittin hams, Korea, disorder, linked to strap throat, rheumatic fever, the causes.

it's like twitches and then, of course, modern medical Austrian say I was mass psychosis. I would go with them, yet I'm infected made more sense, though, when doings Salem, which trials in before they knew anything about medicine and right to say you got the hot blood or you're having the fit psych more modern levels, zesty yeah, exactly these modern cases, the ones that really freak me out, because so much as explainable. Now here's the thing that chuck we ve, always explained it with something that comes easily to mine. So back in the day before science and medicine, it was the devil possessing it. Yes, and no The people were freaked out when they thought that the devil was there, no down possessing people. In the same way,

You know you're freed up by the idea that its cyanide, in the soil, from a train derailment from nineteen, seventy four Beatlemania, just exactly, which is the deadliest of all the mainly by its justice, real to the experiences and it all comes down to people just basically be insecurity, establishment enlightened loose for a while. They want to go to work. I saw that anything else knows her. if you want to know more about collective hysteria, which is the name of this article type. Those words in the search bar at Howstuffworks, dot, com and it will bring it up and it said, search bars means it's time for listener mail. I call this episode on grief. We got a lot of great feedback and that continue continue. Land yeah, hey guys, just stumbled upon your podcast. Do my tune in radio app. I guess that's a many plug were available there now

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