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no! No, we don't have to do. That is definitely a two thousand and eight fish, two thousand nine, this kind of thing to say. But what are we gonna dispel? Well, so that I think that one of the things we should at least says he's not everybody knows this is like the first Europeans definitively to reach North America. Where are the vikings. I know a lot of people know that, but not everybody knows that chuck. Not everybody knows that there is a Viking settlement that was discovered that I think they'd suspected for a long time. Cuz. I think in the north sagas. They they basically said you haven't, made it to Newfoundland, that the Vikings actually had made it to miracle and finally, in the sixties. I think they found a real deal bona fide totally incontrovertible Viking settlement for about one thousand, see it a place called land so meadows, which I have always

to go to because I've always wanted to go to TAT Newfoundland for one minute sea like a Viking settlement in Amerika. We just then be something else. That would be great. We don't go berserker were here. I take a bunch of rooms, battle axe, yeah linen celebrate the fact that they were the very in current, got controversially, the very first Europeans right to touch that soil and that or were they can wrap up short stuff you're right that there is a chance that the Vikings rhythm beat. So the Vikings would have beat the age of exploration by about five hundred years. There's a theory, and it's got some legs conceivably that somebody else beat the vikings by five hundred years themselves and that some sometime in about the sixth century showed up somewhere in North America in who is that Chuck

the Irish and I dont by this, but I think it's a great story: you don't buy it and now I think it is folklore. Ok, Well, we'll talk about it because it is a funny story, but in the sixth century, as the story legend tail goes, Saint Brendan was an irish monk very good sailor and seafarer facing some very wide Sally saintly us saintly, insanely yeah a supposedly undertook this job this voyage, a joyous voyage. voyage and with some fellow monks and went looking for a paradise, the land, a promise of the saints Seven years came upon what he thought was this place, an island so vast that they did not read the far ashore after forty days, a walking the header that was to be cross a forest wooded land with lush fruits and

in the fellows filled, their boats, full of gems and returned home, so the Irish found it for yeah- and I mean like if you like, he ain't talking about the age or you can definitely walk across them and forty days, there's not a lot of islands in between Ireland and North America. So it's really not clear what you know what's same Brennan was talking about. Where he went and he wasn't like a dummy. He didn't accidently stumble on to Europe like he sailed the Europe before he was like a skilled navigator, so he is assumed, is presumed to no have known enough that he knew what direction. Traveling, in that this really was like an all new place that that that his kind had never set foot in before. that's right and in the ninth century so's several hundred years later there was an EC. This account actual an account of this surfaced, called

Travels of Saint Brendan NET gaucho sanctity Donnie, Magna Carta Master Charge, you take the bus, we all take the bus, big hit. It was translated into a bunch of languages and You know it was the account of that, neither all sorts of crazy things in here, oh yeah, which Maybe we should save that for the second half? Ok, that's where it falls apart, a bit with me: ok, but should we talk a little bit? The Vikings Maybe lending support to this idea? Sure yeah, so the the north have those sagas that I was talking about right, where it's basically like we did. That says we need this.

I hear something else. We did and there's like a lot of there's a lot of like credulous credulous. Eighty two it like there's, it's not just like Norse mythology. That's almost like a separate thing, although it's definitely intertwined like they think that these are actual like historical documents in a lot of cases are at least have a large kernel of historicity in them. and so in those sagas they talk about arriving in Greenland, around two thousand see you around the same time. They were to set up the place in Newfoundland and finding irish missions that were already there, let's low, odd in and also We should say the nurse were familiar with the Irish already, so they would have known in irish mission if they came upon an irish mission. Yeah sure, so there I would suggest that the Irish beat them to Greenland, at least, which is pretty pretty significant Yet there was another saga where they talked about meeting some of the native Americans.

Who already had seen white man they're like we know guys like you and weaving, guys sort of like you. They were dressed in white and came from land across their own are our own. I guess I'm in character, and then there was a third it talks about the north encountering a tribe. The native Americans, who spoke a language that even sounded like irish right. So what a little clues here. Yet these are recorded by the north and they definitely do suggests that there was a possibly some Irish who made their way over to the new world before the vote. Kings even did but, like you said, there is a lot of fun, there's a heaping helping of folklore along with all this and for people like you chuck it breaks down everything I like to hold out hope that this is possible and true and let's talk about it a little more after these,

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zip recruiter. The smartest wait a higher, all right, we're in a divided camp had were divided. This is when the petrograd comes in, bury fell. Who is marine biologist at Harvard University found some Petra Cliffs, which are rock carved writings in West Virginia in eighteen. Eighty three- and he said you know these are this is oh gum. Script is this. Is that irish alphabet? and it was used from six to the eighth century, and I even think I know what a sand they're talking about the christian nativity, her

What does it right on Iraq shook her? And that's Irish clearly It's not. You know from native Americans and fair said here: everyone take a look at the stuff in the academic world said, I don't know about that. I don't even know if this robot your methods is definitely not a fact. We said Ojo Marine biologist, it's exactly, and this could be. Oh God script, but it's really not proving anything now so the it's still not definitively been shown who wrote that it's called the horse. Creek Patrick lifts near clear, fork: West Virginia Andy, don't know who wrote it, but I think the local archaeological society came out and said it's pretty races,

We assume that, rather than the local indigenous people leaving these Petra glimpse that it was some mythical irish monk who who made his way over here, allegedly rather than the but we know were here in this area at that time, the by either, regardless of whether it is the case like no one has said: oh well, it was these people, and this is what it says. So there's still definitely room for speculation, but from what I understand there is there is virtually no academic who who believes that this is in fact, ahem script, and even if it is an item that it doesn't necessarily talk about the nativity, so we can kind of discard. That is evidence like there's, there's not certainly not incontrovertible evidence of irish present.

Because of that, those Patrick lives yeah and where it falls apart from me, but not now, I've been thinking about it. Maybe not completely is when you start to look at the account, the navigation, the travels of Saint Brendan, which was the account of his voyage It is correct. It is really out there and wacky it talks about an island with an ethiopian devil, an island, with the monks who celebrated Christmas, who were just there. They fought a griffin at one point and killed a Griffin, all kinds of fantastical stuff. They they went to one island and set up camp, and then it turned out. Oh, my goodness is not an island were actually on a. Whale, so its old communion. So let's have come. I don't know that was where the communion was those a bunch, a whale stuff when they definitely help communion on a whale at something. Might have been that chapter, but it's kind of crazy stuff and assorted looking into it there

It is when it is an Irish M wrong, which were these seventh and eighth century b c varying adventure tales written by the Irish in it it fits in with that and so I immediately dismissals like another suggestion, in Rome and its you made up, but I thought well, Maybe not maybe it took style of that, because that was what was popular in. be it really did happen, but it just they Gussy sit up with these fantastical tails. Dressed up and then the forgot you was written about two to three hundred years after seeing and would have lived right, so it certainly was in his own account of it. But the it's almost like to me. It's almost like Hamilton like if you came along and saw Hamilton the musical like this is ridiculous. in wrath and was in a rapid right here. You'd like there's a larger point two, and that there was a person named Alexander Alexander Hamilton. He did do these things, you know, but is

a stop to make it palatable are understandable to people at the time and then embellished? I'm sure, although I dont think Alexander Hamilton would have given communion on the back of a whale, but it's still in the same ballpark into me just because somebody came along and dressed up with with folklore. Clearly, folklore doesn't mean that there's a desert moved the possible Eddie, that there is a lot of colonels of truth still in there somewhere near I can. I can I got there during the last eight minutes. I'm glad about that. What is interesting is one of the things Can I used to say now this probably could have happened was the fact that the sailing technology time, the boating technology that he would have likely use? Is this little boat called a crock and see you are a sea asian, it's this being outer it's a homemade boat. Basically made out of wood with an ox hide, unlike tar and stuff, to put it together,

No there's no way to see could have made it that far in one of these caracks and nineteen, seventy six Author and adventure named him. Severin said you know what I'm gonna see if this is possible, any built one of those, possibly in the style that they would have built them back then any retrace that route that Brendan is believed to have taken from our. Iceland in Greenland and eventually Newfoundland, and he made it yeah later this year. Showed it is entirely possible and again this the same Brendan was supposed to be a very skilled navigator. So if it's possible at least that that that happened, if same Brennan actually did exist, who, like many stuff, he should know, shortens the since, with the big shoulder shrug. A big shoulder shook puffy,

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