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as there are other the you know, that's their kids that aren't there at all. It seems so short. Now as before it was like our man. I hope a measure up you. They grow your hair out. Yeah till I make that extra like half inch or something like that, get your blue, Did you ever up high? It's exactly right, although remember my story, is it that I was scared of rollercoasters until my father finally said, I'm not taking you back here and pay this money until you get on a roller coaster, and then you were scared. Well now I just went on to those like a Buddha one and not go back, and then I loved it, of course, but he he rolled the dice, Did you but yeah my dead took me on space mountain when I was like five or something like that, and I hate roller coaster says: result really still yeah not on it. You seem. Basically, the same thing happened to me. I don't remember held she was, but it was space mountain her dead an dumb. We, we went back to space, unlike years ago, took to conquer conquer, I fear than we did. We did it,

hammered it in tomorrow. Land and I got aboard- but that has nothing to do with safety pins. No, it doesn't know safety, pens actually of a totally different. Equally engrossing story. There is a guy who is actually known as the inventor of the safety pin, chiefly because he invented the safety pen. His name is Walter Hunt and there's a lot of different interpretations of Walter Hunt. I think this house to forks article kind of misses the mark a little bit which are take, so he was born of American great nineteenth century inventors number one number two: he invented the safety pen, which is that just if he had just invented the safety pin that would something by he invented the safety pen, beckoned, eighteen, forty nine, and if you look at his safety, pin invented

and the safety pen that you would go by today. The its virtually the same thing like the guy right out of the gate, invented a perfect version of his invention. Yet, and if this is one of those it so brilliant in its simplicity is, I imagine he was just tinkering around with some wire. Coiled it around itself and said hey that acts as its own spring. So it doesn't need to be two pieces which is sort of the genius. The safety pin and then the little class. The little safety class besides called a safety Ben, keeps little fingers in big fingers. I guess and toes and toes from getting prick. And stuck, and it was just a genius little idea here- was so he the legend

goes that he was fiddling around that wire and inadvertently invented the safety pin. While he was a kind of MC keeping his hands busy, trying to figure out how to pay off a fifteen dollar debt, it could not find with the debt was four, but it was too a pal guess. So, ok we'll go with that. But then, when he figured out this, this safety pin was a pretty good idea. He went in patented it, but then he saw the patent to either that friend or body else to pay off the fifteen, our debt, but he saw the fur like four hundred bucks year, which did you do the calculation there know. What is that today? I didn't We need to stop for a minute one late. I've made you can do little tap dance yeah. But the point is: is that four hundred dollars back then and we'll get the number in a sack was, was agreed he'll of money. But obviously, think compared to the riches that would have befallen Walter Hunt

had he held onto that patent. It would be known as the hunt been today probably, and he would do his his great great grand kids, would be billionaire still. I would imagine oh yeah, a few if he earned royalties from it and they kept up that the patent heck yes or the trade mark, or something I'm not sure how they would do but I do have a number chuck it. What is it germinal? It's about twelve thousand dollars, which are that it is in bad, but so here's the thing so the guy sold office patented idea, sometimes he's report. It is not even having patented it to sold the idea, which is wrong, but so he saw the patent for just twelve grand he's very often very much characterized like short sighted, the Navy, those maybe just like it, sent minded inventor type or something like that, you're ok, maybe can say that with the safety pin, but he

also invented something pretty huge to the sewing machine, and this is where it gets kind of like a little cloudy to me to take a break. Airlines will clear- clouds out and we'll be back right after this, I dont think America has ever gone back to the way that it was before nine eleven and the anthrax attacks. The fear was really that there would be a second wave of attacks and then along comes the DC sniper and all of the countries. Worst fears are realised. The gunman most likely a skilled marksmen fired six times in the courts and sixteen hours and then, as the DC sniper case, unfolded, that terror boldly grew

she found out about this terror court. In this message to police, the police say they have never had a crime. Quite like this. It is quite a mystery. I do believe he was brainwash. The lack of a better terms. It was scary to go to the grocery store, fill up your car with gas, it was actually brilliant, say mother would leave the house. This was the most intense man Hunt in american law enforcement. History, listen to monster DC, sniper, On the eye, hard, radio, app apple, podcast or ever you get your podcast. Ok, so the clouds are still over Chuck whereabouts, part them. Ok, I thought your bed

we're gonna rained down some knowledge of its way better. We should we should re. Take this part cloudy with the chance of knowledge, so so Walser Hunt invented the sewing machine actually beckoned, like ten. Thirty, three, a good thirty, almost twenty years before he invented the safety pen and it had like curved, I needle had the shuttles is basically like the singer sewing machine with later be he invented it decades before anybody else was making the sewing machines, and so yet again he's criticized for selling this idea without pending it repenting it not doing anything with it. He the story I saw was that he did come up with this idea and his daughter pointed doing things with this and shows that the panda in abandoned the idea so that it wouldn't even be out there for anybody else,

and he said: oh well, I'm not going to do anything with this and chose not to patent, didn't abandon the idea so that it wouldn't even be out there for anybody else to pick up and work with. Did he destroy his machine up from what I saw, which would lead me to believe that unless someone just you know, was Willy nilly making things up, it's gotta be true right. I don't know, but this is what I am saying. Things are clouded which would lead me to believe that unless someone just was Willy nilly making things up, it's gotta be true right. I don't know, but this is what I'm saying things are clouded. We we parted and some of them they came back our aid, but either way the reason that you look at sewing machine today and dont see the word. Hunt on them is just another sort of chink in his armor as a really brilliant guy who didn't see the big picture? Economically, noble, that's that's put poor women out of work right. There has overlooked that yet.

So you're saying it was noble. That's that's how I'm taken it. Well, I hope so that would be a great. You know I like that better than I didn't think it was very good right, that may because it was made of wood if he did prototype it I'll say. Yes, it was probably made away, but the reason why is this singer, because a man named Isaac singer came along there, actually two to deeds to businessmen, Ally's. How and Isaac singer. They were in a battle with each other to control this patent in the eighteenth fifties. So what I couldn't tell us if they legit invented the saying or if they ripped off, but somehow yet not they would have been Elias. How he was the one who held the panned Isaac. Singer was just making machines. Has done the same designs, ignoring house patent costs for somebody, and somehow he knew that was actually William Hunt Hood invented the sewing machine decades before so they went to court and Isaac singer set high.

Come in here and demonstrate that you, you did this in you get the patent and then all ignore your pat and two, and the judge actually ruled that he is that, yes, I am Hunt was indeed the inventor the sewing machine, but it was too late to retroactively file a pen. I wonder if there's enough here for a movie they made about the guy who were who created the intermittent setting on the Winchell wipers he had been paid wonder what's her face Jennifer Amnesty Lawrence, right was in the movie about the inventor lady, oh yeah Ghana year submitted, and here I would like all it. So what When did the ended, the trailer its spelled out and you the sewing machine, and it was so it out the title IDA. Maybe maybe they should just be a trailer, so what seems like a working title bracket that, like some producer, comes in and changes in his paid a billion dollars for writer within it

called Isaac singer follies. So the other thing about Walter Hunt. He invented plenty of others have to a foot pedal alarm to warn people. This street car was coming, for sure answered protein walking device. Yeah, and that I had no idea what that was. But apparently it's like the human fly like such a cup shoes right, it's pretty amazing, and today will not today but say back in the seventies. If you hung out with punks, you probably saw a lot of safety pains and you can think Walter Hunt for that little fashion accessory to yeah what was a deal you they would. That was just you put a bunch of safety pins. I was not cool enough to do that stuff. So so so there's a dispute over who came up with this supposedly Richard Hell when the original punk rockers, he accessorized a lot in the accessories to safety pin. So if some people say was Richard Hell, it came up with but apparently Johnny rotten from sex. Pisses is disputed that and said that it

actually out of necessity, to keep the arson your trousers from falling off is a just war, beat up close yeah because they were gutter, punks, didn't you well actually put safety pins through their face gag, remembering that some people didn't Walter. I did not like that. His ghost is very upset by this, but no one could see that, while so from the safety pen to the sewing machine to said vicious, the is the logical order of operation. Elliot american inventors- If you want to eat anything else now It is no that I want to go out and get some anti body, and she has now do see men. You climb up a building and say thank you, William Hunt let's see if you want to get in touch this just got our website. Ok step. You should know that come to get all of our social media links and you can also sends an evil to stuff pod cast a house deforestation

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