I welcome to the short stuff pie cast Josh, there's Charles there's Jerome, and this is again the short stuff podcast. This one in particular, is the shores of pod cast where we discuss thread counts in bedding. Let's begin yet this one reeks of typical stuff you should know in it occasionally will we will buster myth or to Airbus to move that problem? The probably might disappoint some folks, like Doktor Seuss lovers near when we the poop dollar his early career, but now we're gonna Pouponne thread count because thread count has become one of these things, starting like the early two thousands when you would literally seed thread, counts of a thousand

became one of those numbers- and they they put it on this house of works articles, like I q or ass mileage or somethin, where no one thought about Anything but that number is like: oh well, it's a thousand. It's got to be better than the eight hunt. Which is better than the six hundred just better than the three hundred and I mean do you know where that came from the whole thread? Counting, it's not like thread count hadn't benefactor before, but it was like an industry thing and somehow I got brought out to the consumer, I'm guessing by some yuppie scum, who boasted author thread count somewhere. We re moving around a tv show and then it is kind of took off from their yeah. But here, the disappointing revelation everyone what I read is not in this article, but I read in a different one: knew that meeting over four hundred o. First of all, threat count is the number of horizontal

where's I'll order and vertical threads per square inch. Yet so, if you cut a square inch out of you sheet, get a microscope and count every single one of the threads not worthy cross, or anything like that, because the individual threads Thatcher thread come in. I just added there's no weird formula horizontal plus vertical. Well, you all! so do the square root, a pie right here in the middle of it right disregard here's the dirty secret, though apparently anything over four hundred is just bogus, because a square inches square inch, there's only so much threat. Can fit in it and what I read was that four hundred is that number one. Getting manipulative, ok, all right so when I read is that you can exist, that number with getting manipulative, but you went to see that number you have to use smaller,

nor in thinner fibres, but that's manipulative. I guess it's manipulative, but but you yes, it is by, but you and like see, there's also outright manipulation where it there's just not that many fibres, There is the threat of care, but you, if you use thinner sooner fibres to fit more moth more. In the square inch Europe you're, giving the thread count that you're saying It's not necessarily going to be a better sheet. It might feel pretty nice, because what you are doing is creating like one really solid piece of material, but because the thread using so thin. It might not be quite as durable. Those threads might break more easily, leading to fraying pilling. Killings are worst, they might just catch fire, If continuously mice suck the life

a view while it while you're sleeping there's a lot of things, they can go wrong if the threads of your sheets, snap, in the mill than I So there's a woman named legacy. Sacks who works at the Good Housekeeping Institute and she says in this article. The sweet spot is between three in five hundred or anywhere from three hundred to five hundred, because is higher than that, then it the cotton becomes thin because, like you that probably means are using their thread just to get that number up right but what you're looking for is a depends on who you are. But if you want a soft and durable sheet, then he wanted to be in that four hundred range, but which is great, I, the they don't even like mention thread, counts much anymore. I haven't bought sheets in a while, but I bet it's still a thing. Ok, but I think one of the reasons why a used to you like, whether you are in the market for sheets, are not yet, but you are bombarded with threads,

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since its decided, is because again, some people were two straight up perpetrating outright fraud. Purpose fraud here yeah it's it is. We are not here as much about anymore like you're talking about, and maybe this fraud being exposed has something to do with that. I think a definite though, like for a period of time in the United States at least, we were duped into it. It I remember thinking like. Oh my god, I don't know what my thread gown is like any defined it that big the pic applying it replaced. What's your sign, I've a hundred thread count she's such Brenner in your mind, so we're all duped for awhile, but it really kind of depends your shopping on what you're, after in a sheet like some people like those flannel sheets, I think I had flannel for a little while college too hot for me for sure. Sometimes

for cotton to those all cotton, they Cullen Jersey. Your teacher cheats. This way, I went down that road for little while boy, try them all haven't you never gone silk and satin yeah. What about thirteen hadn't? Never what he said either we raise the synthetic set and nearby yeah. I think it's even likes more sat, neither satin, ok, what personally, as a weave, will float the and over a few road at a time which makes it smoother, apparently so what about her Hale. I don't even know what that is. Super Kale is kind of like a crisp sturdy. Cotton weave, ok, is kind of like a basket weave

but it it's funny how like you can use if you use certain types of fibers and certain types of weaves are going to get totally different feels, and it is exciting. It's totally personal preference. I'm sure when I said Jersey just feels weird someone out there is like you're you're nuts Clark. I love Jersey who doesn't want to sleep on a t shirt. It's all just personal preference and low dial industry has has heard this, that there are many different preferences in their giving us many different, different things to work with you yeah and some of those like Jersey sheets in there like Jersey sheets in the cotton sheets like that. Well, then, something I've just learned by having a young daughter, it will take. You're here a lot if you have long straight hair or curly hair, God forbid, because that cotton, when you move around it just get grabs hold. So what recommend is like a satin pillow case for kids for toddlers, easier and it just makes sense your hair will.

Around on that and not get his tangley. So it's in the mail has come in a report back on success rates. That is supposedly a big anti tank, whereas the satin sheet yeah, he's gonna some silk pillow cases, not the sheets, just the pillow case yeah, you like it, yeah it's great. I had no idea why now I understand why I just such as shown offer something but We are taking a France, we gotta get silk pillar cases, by that I mean they are very nice to sleep on. I have to admit to small indulgence. I like it, but it's the right. It's just a fraction of indulgence, you get the whole said her whatever, then you are showing off. I don't think I would like I dislike its fines for a pillow case be afraid. Slip off the bed or somethin exotic, because I've myself, pajamas so

silk? You know what that means, while the aggregate host is gonna, keep sliding indefinitely until a car like stopped you, so everyone's gettin duped it's in the two thousands, they start coming out with these crazy numbers like a set up to a thousand and they were able to do this because there is no FCC mandate on how to determine thread count. So You can come to say whatever you want can't be like tagged for false advertising. Well, what they were doing also. Was there saying, oh over using to play cotton threads with right, too thin strains of cotton wound together to make a thicker strain of cotton? we have three hundred of those in a square inch, but there to ply so we're gonna call these six hundred thread count. Some people, apparently India, Pakistan and China were putting out a substantial amount of sheets. That's just it didn't matter what what you did you weren't going to come up with the three counts that they were being advertised

yeah yeah, and so that the International Trade Commission heard some complaints and they actually authorize custom, agents around the world to see she's sheet shipments said I again to see it shipmates damn may under the Dublin, and them. I don't know if they tested of on the spot or what, by I'm sure, there's some nervous boat captains like staying there like Russia has again it was going to come back with man and they found lotta sheets. There were coming out again: India, Pakistan and China that weren't up to the thread counts, and I think that was kind of like the the the crest of that that wave and the fact that the International Trade Commission actually took action on it. It is kind of beat back that that little subsidy fraud, and so that's where thread counts, went and apparently one of the other things that was fraudulent. Was egyptian cotton yeah

option. Cotton is a real thing and it is great. It's a longer fibre longer staple what they call here, which means it. After for sure and more durable. So it's not like. If you see a egyptian cotton, is not some big scam unless it's not a Egyptian on again all kinds of brands or advertising egyptian gun that we're not egyptian cotton. So if you go into a store today and easy one I thousand thread count egyptian cotton sheet. Be very wary. I would say yeah run away screaming at well. Unless it's it cost you a pretty penny and is from a brand that you know entrust well. You know, I think, the rules that well that's You mean yeah, it's true in this day and age, but at a time I think, if you bought sheets from a brain, there are very trustworthy brain and the origins of sheet. You think you're, probably getting

you're paying for this this article from house to Works says if you see a gypsy cotton in its inexpensive, you probably not getting egyptian different I'm surprised, there's not a an app delivery service called shitty. I'll bet there's going to be in about three weeks now. I d give us a small car. That's all I ask do they ever, though Chuck whenever you come up with these ideas to they did shark NATO ever give you any. I got no short NATO money. You got no sugar from shark Nina know. Did you see the sheets from shark NATO? Sugar? You don't even know that means it doesn't mean anything. I got nothing else I haven't done anything else for about thirty seconds. Circlets end! That's! Ok! Ok, if you to know more about this. Go to house therefore stay com and check out this article and also send an email to stuff podcast. How stuff works, Decker,