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until very recently. I knew where the first one was, but it turns out that is definitely up for debate and probably even wrong. Yet you know this was so chock full of stuff, a kind of wondered if it could be a full link thing, but maiden decided now. Missus Charmond this stuff, a bunch of stuff in this stuff, may go stuff it up stuff. So did you think the first one was in Cleveland in August of nineteen fourteen correct right and that still gets credit as such, even though there are other traffic lights in his will see with a lot If we talk about their allotted little improvements whether there are

and where they lit up and stuff like that, so I think that's. Why there's a lot of competing claims, yet it was one of the things were. Just a lot of people contributed to what we know and love is traffic lights. Today, I should say: love what we know and wove in some cases is traffic lights today, because I'm sure I said as much in the round about sewed, there is maybe nothing worse than sitting added traffic light, a red light when there is nobody coming from either other direction. His. the worst thing that can happen to you that doesn't involve physical pain or grief. That is true. We shut up history, that calm Rachel Ross from life, science and Larry Clark, not the filmmaker Larry Clark who wrote something for me, human state magazine and the book. Ways to Heaven Colon, the auto biography of em. Erika and louder theirs. It yeah. Eighty there's a few other first listed in that book, which are kind of interesting

left in driving became the standard in nineteen o eight in America, sinner dividing line stressed that for started getting painted in nineteen eleven in Michigan and there the first know of turn sign and nineteen sixteen, and both or New York, yeah and Charter to Christopher Finch, the author of that book. That's right! But what about Britain? They had an idea about this long before nineteen for Yeah. This to me is like okay. Well, there we go. We have the first traffic signal in existence and I happened to be in London in Westminster and it was based on a already use design that people use for four railroads to say: hey you can pass or no don't pass is pretty What you are trying to get across and a guy who worked on the railroad. John Peak Knight said you know what we ve got: a lotta congestion with buggies and carriages and maniacs, and

I'm all sorts of people just running around. We need some sort of traffic signal for a roads now to let sadap that railroad thing into a traffic light and he did and again the first traffic light was in London and I believe, one thousand eight hundred and sixty eight that's right It was a symbol for system which met it. Had little arms that raise up and down which is kind of fun, is actually mechanical, Aeneas gas, lamps to light up the sign at night and there would be a cop there or whatever- Bobby Bobby Station next to it to operate the signal and this was in December of eighteen sixty eight and was actually working well and they thought this is gonna, be huge success, and then about a month later, they

one of those gaslights exploded and one of those Bobby's faces, and they said we're not going to do this, and it was about forty years until things started happening again as far as traffic like to go. That must have been a really bad explosion on that poor Bobby, because for four for forty years, like the English really now, you know, wanna get near traffic signal, forget thou, who terrible idea. Now I can't tell you, many people were run down or how many buggies got hit by cars and that interim, but that's how bad that explosion was that they abandoned it entirely, and it wasn't even the Brits that picked it up again. It was the Americans who said we need something here. Let's try, let's take up where the Brits left off in its here that most people say that the first traffic signal was invented. Even though again it was first

invented in London, but the Americans tend to get Thea the credit for it, but even among Americans its it spread out over a ton of different inventors. Yet- and you know the thing about that British, when it was in a traffic light problem, it was a gasoline problem exactly they blame the messenger brother. Are we'll do a little bit more before I go into a break. Yes, ok in America, there are a lot of people filing patents like tons of Spain, flung around early nineteen hundreds about this. You know sort of very simple idea of a traffic light, one of em, and this, I think, doesn't qualify because technically it's not a light. It is just a sign a night ten earnest, serene or serene, introduce the automatic traffic signal in Chicago,

go and it had again no whites, which is why don't call traffic light, but it had the arms arranging across rotating on an axis like a weather, vain, yes, I would say, stop and proceed in. It would just kind of turn on its axis and faced the right way, ideally to get people or the need to go you I think there is power. a cop, not a body. A cop below operating at sea had basically a traffic up who had to be stationed there working it, but it was like kind of like the groundwork for the whole thing right. The idea that you were telling one intersection or one direct, and did not move while you're telling another opposite direction to move, that's the basis of a traffic signal. I agree that maybe we should take a break. Ok, maybe talk about another other couple of people who didn't get their due credit. Fair enough.

now streaming on peak, deepen the words stand. alone do I was behind the door night. There's your worst I, like your team, who are you on the weapon thing? Are you terminator, where new, leading that so check their. Lester Wire, who, like you were saying, doesn't really gives due credit outside of, the Mormons held areas of Utah catch. You could say that there's a nineteen, twelve and SALT Lake City, and he made some that come like a bird house. Was a wooden box head

this actually had a red and green light on a pole and it was attached to the trial wires overhead to give it power very smart I on a wise, Lester Wire doesn't get the credit, then that was full two years before Cleveland yeah he arm in it. It is basically a bird house today you look a bit like it. It's a bird house, yet I dont know why he doesn't get credit either, but he doesn't a couple years. after that. That's where the Cleveland One came in that everybody says: that's the first traffic signal, I still don't understand why it was considered the first traffic signal of lesser wire already had his in SALT Lake City to uniform, but James Hope is the one who gets the credit for. at that one that was installed in nineteen fourteen at the corner of Euclid and I think EAST a hundred and faith in Cleveland Ants, James Hoag went whole huh.

By having for traffic signals one death. Thank you that faced every direction of the traffic, so that you could, you could coordinate them and I think it was was set up so that it was impossible to give conflicting signals so that you can tell two opposite directions ago. At this I like it just couldn't happen that right we should shut out William giggly of similar Francisco, because I think the distinction here was that his life was the first automatic light and the big one that use red and green light- and this is a nineteen seventeen- I think I am- your here one here, nineteen twenty! We imports a cop in Detroit, not a Bobby he developed some automatic traffic light systems, and I think this was the first one to use the caution. Light use all three colors. There was a huge innovation because up to that point it was his rider green. So you have

foregoing going ongoing and then other people stopping and then it still may be going in. You could have an accident adding like that little caution light. That's it does a lifesaver literally the big deal and we have to shout out and nineteen twenty three Garret Morgan. Quite the inventor Garrett, was the actual first African American to own a car at all in Cleveland like I said quite inventor, quite the emitters invented a gas mask as well, incidentally, an garret then it was a t shape pole with it did have three percent and it had head stopping go, but this one was the first one I believed You have every one stop for a moment of time. Yeah at least So it would give other people a chance to get out of the intersection, which is a really big safety feature yen,

Morgan is very often credit is the father of the traffic signal because he sold his patented e g for forty grand words about six hundred and something thousand today and G Mass produce these things it was like really cheap and easy to produce, and so they started popping up everywhere, which is, I think, why he often gets the credit, even though his came almost ten years after they Cleveland one. But it's tough. If you look at the patent designs is tough to understand. Really have to like sit and think about it. But there were, it was like a cross in it said, stop on ones. I go on the other, but it would fold up so that its head start everywhere, no matter what direction you recently, I was saying so there a moment in between each change, where all all for directions were stopping Yeah- and we still have the overlap today on, I feel like I've, sometimes see lights

in rural areas where they don't have that overlap, or maybe they have all been changed over but our right, I do remember time there were that where they didn't have that overlap yeah. I remember the tears does not that long ago now, her it was kind of like just a free for all, basically just go its value can like as soon as the other one turn red. The alone was green, so twenty that care Morgenthau, this in the nineteen twenties and it went away for a while? I guess we also have to Sarah John Alan, who I was not only an inventor but a bit of an entrepreneur. If you ask me, yes said this was the first street level, pedestrian traffic signal Ryan

and I think they had and before that in the nineteen thirty's, but they were integrated into the traffic light themselves right, yeah and vague right off the bat basically came up with the Walker. Don't walk signal as we understand it today like that that up right palmed, then her saying stop with that was like the first one and it still in use twitter, rare example of somebody figuring out the best design. Initially, you know yeah, that's right, but John Allen. His is kind of funny. He had the word, stop and go, but he pretty smart. I mean it didn't catch on, thankfully, but he, on his advertising really early in thought. Hey one, Do this, why don't we have signals that are sponsored and it could say like go to me now. Quickie more

Basically, if they want to pay the money for that Ricky Mark, I do. Could you imagine if that's what it had turned into. I can- and I am actually surprised that it's not that way now, but it would have been cute they look at now in retrospect, what I'm? I'm with you, I'm glad you didn't catch on boy. That reminds me of one of my most hated things. Is the advent of the gas pump advertisements elinor so loud account from us off quick enough now, I'm with you they're, pretty betcha agreed the worst well since, with both think that gas pomp advertisements are is bad. against. That means, of course, that short stuff is apt. Stuff, you should know is a production of I radio, were protests. My heart radio visit that I hurt radioactive apple had cast a realist.

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