You're, welcome to short so Fund Josh and there's chuck in Theirs Josh over there. And this is your stuff giddy up chunk. Alright you're gonna go to the late nineteenth seventies and love said the Vietnam WAR is well over, while our America at least well, that's true, but the enemies in the ocean people started noticing over there that periodically there would be a sticky yellow rain when it really sunny out coming down and that this substance killed plants and made people sick, especially among the among the among which is to say, H, M o and G, which were people in South EAST Asia who fought with France against the commune

since the nineteenth fifties gather, were mountain people in North, North Vietnam and Laos YA, think they probably there never mind I about to discuss a deleted scene and applied It would now be time for there are they the ones that they dine with us that they have dinner with? I think so. I think there were four in the end long, but it would make sense because the Hmong cast their lot with the the french and then later on, the Americans and the CIA showed up his remember. We talked by this multiple episodes, yeah where's things, a CIA did CIA. They Behind me lines in say you hate the people are fighting to, while, let's assume, A gorilla army and the long fought with that? Well then, I did bigtime trouble the long after the Americans withdrew and I believe, nineteen seventy five, because they left the Hmong. In the bag. Everyone knew that the Hmong had fought against the communists and the communists had just become successful in the Vietnam WAR, and so the communist turn their ire

since the hmong people who no longer had any any american backing so as they were kind of driven from their homes and an end to refugee camps across the border into Thailand. They were harassed by the communist government and from that from that that experience this idea that their that something was being sprayed on them kind of took root. This yellow rain. That was thought to be some sort of biological weapon. That was being too Floyd by the vietnamese government and the Americans took it quite seriously and got their hands on some samples and- and I think one thousand nine hundred and eighty one Alexander Haig, who was secretary of state at the time, said yep

some sort of biological weapon, we think its trade caught the scene, which is a micro toxin, and we think that the soviets are supplying it in flagrant violation of anti biological weapons conventions that have been announced. Nineteen, twenty five you didn't hear Alexander Hague. That was my Alexander him up. He didn't come through. The whole thing was a wheel goodness. Sorry, how can you do unless you years? Why would they would just have said something about the Soviet Union, like that? That's Henry Kissinger, Henry Kissinger. I accept your dog anything like Singing Kissinger is funny as soon as you said that I got a mental picture that went from Kissinger to Hague. I totally remember Al Hague now yet Fisher Eric I was you know he liked impersonate under our that behind his back? And it wasn't very flattering, so imagine

that in their even though it short stuff, I dont care, does a classic s. Wife came moment, my friend, so that first of all, we should point out that the that this idea that it would be something like that after we had dropped agent orange all over the place right fourteen years, you can't blame them for thinking something like that is going on, however, something that kind of smelled kinky in the nose of one man muscles, and there was a biologist at Harvard University, and he said this doesn't really make sense to me so, a couple years later in nineteen eighty three, he got some samples, and he said you know what's in here. It's really weird. He said there is a lot of hollowed out pollen, that's indigenous to this area and this would mean that the Soviet Union is taking pollen hollowing it out filling it with poison and bringing it back

and dropping it down on Sunday days like its rain right, is a very bad idea. It's very outlandish: it's not a very effective dispersal method and the concentrate of Michael toxins in there anyway was not really any different. Then samples of leaves and plants anywhere else in Southeast Asia re like his his position was like. Yes, these people are being harassed but I dont think this yellow rain is actually a biological weapons being supplied by the USSR that there's something else going on. It's like you said it's just too outlandish what that, where the process will require for this too, too what it was, so he headed use a biologist, like you, said, and he knew enough to know that bees specifically giant Asian huh-

bees that lived in the area actually will eat Paul in, but they don't eat the outer shell, the pollen they eat. The protein inside the pollen, so when they poop they put out regular pollen herb, they put out hollowed out pollen. Ok, yes, so he said, I think I think this might just be a case of honey bee poop. I think that's what everybody's freaked out about his it's just honeybee poop, but people are saying ok yet true biologically. But what you're talking about for that? For something that looks like yellow rain to be produced would would require a mind boggling number of bees to all poop at once in the same area. So explain that MR muscles in Mr Mr Harvard train Biologists, can you then he said I will ride after this message break.

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so plain- and he also said that you know all these health problems that are going on. He said it's really. Probably just people with dysentery and nutritional deficiencies and mean out seems like your asking very leading questions to me. This whole thing really stinks at this point, the muscles, and while we also check there is one other thing there. So I went back and I was reading some like article and science from the time, and they were saying like like there is indeed some sort of Michael toxic poison. That is is hurting people, and so those are the big reason why this is

till yet resolved, because there was a micro, toxic poisoning. Muscle since position was, will these people are living in refugee camps, the satellite there eating top of the line food, I'm sure some of them are eating mouldy food and are suffering ill effects from it. So that would explain this appearance of micro, toxic poisoning and in in that guy's defence that try quoth the scene is supposedly was discovered in the USSR from people eating mouldy food. The toes first found amazing. So few hours later, one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine I'm about to graduate high school and meselson teams up with some canadian biologist to figure this whole thing out does the whole idea of like why you know how many bees it would take to poop down yellow rain on everyone right, and they said what we're going to find out just how many bees it would take. They realise that it was on hot sunny days, which is the first big clue,

and they measure the body mass of these bees before they left their highs and then, after they came back to the hives and found out that while they were gone, they lost twenty percent of their body weight on the return flight. There's a big old poop, that's a big open. So they would leave together in these big giants, warms thousands of them. They would poop, they would I'm back to care for their little larvae, and they said this is also happening most frequently on really hot sunny day. So we think we ve got to figure the sing out right. Would they figured out? Was that the so

listen, honey, bees, the larva as their developing. If they overheat, they will deform. Basically, they they will developing correctly, I guess, and so to keep the temperature in the hive lower, especially on hot sunny days, the hive. The bees in the high will fly out and in excrete waste all at once, basically or in one trip and then when they come back since they ve lost twenty percent of their body weight that the temperature inside the hive is that much lower because their weight is not producing that much more waste heat. So they actually figured out that that's what bees will do at least asian honeybees to keep the to regulate. That. Picture in the high seas. The larva can develop normally, and they said we think we to solve the mystery of yellow rain. That's right, more research in later years, pretty much confirm this, and everyone is

basically sickly onboard, except for the fact that kissing and Alexander Hague never came back in retracted their statements, so officially we you know he eat out of that. Such matters are not, but officially we have never retracted that statement as as a nation that it was not the Soviet Union. I just got to finish Watchin Na Chernobyl's gonna see I might get a fever point of like the truth and toxins, because the so high, You can still says. I'm sorry, Russia still says thirty. One people died how many people did die, though they don't know anywhere between four thousand and ninety thousand is what a child, depending on how you count in cancer twenty years later and stuff like that Do I was talking to a friend Blair, who is a friend of both of ours, a photographer and he was like you got to do one on true, noble and I'm, like everybody knows about it. Now, it's too, we do one, maybe okay.

Can I loved her? It's a fascinating topic, but if everybody already knows about it, it's like what's. The point is that it was a heck of a shall. We say that, while at least watch that are so to finish up here, though, the Hmong for their part, things happened, a lot better. They continue to suffer to this day varies amount of them made it over to the United States. Some people returned allows some people return to Vietnam, We said at the beginning, a lot of a more going to Thailand is refugees, but in two thousand nine I government shut that down and sent away thousands and thousands of the month and it really just sort of sad situation, but this article points out. The one silver lining is that, like this whole thing anything there's a new theory about what happened or any time. It makes the news the among also make the news right, which I think is really worth pointing out for sure

this is one of the articles were used for this was called the mystery of yellow rain. It was written by Jacob Roberts for distillation, which is a blog of the Science History Institute. It's very good stuff right! Well, that's it for short, stuff ceiling study should know its production of I radios. How works for more part, my heart, radio, radio apple hard or wherever you listen to your favorite