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was getting release later, so this technically or second episode. It does put that in your button and smoke it in your talking about haven't. We have urged a curse and why I think you just did Jerry BP, Beep beep, beep beep, beef, but it's it's great to be back together in a little weird, but not as we had as I thought it would be. That version was we because we're in a different room. Here we got all the weirdness out weird situation it would be weird regardless, but now again in studio one day there was a really good move. Jerry did you planet like that, to get the job Jerry the thumbs Nazi thumbs up. There is real everybody, don't use doc juries. Let her go out and get a ponytail the person that I've ever seen and even more pepper II, no salty in a solemn, pepper, way, it doesn't get more peppery unless you make him a move to like it. So and she looks like a wealthy

retiree who drives Maserati and knows their way around the club in item. I guess that's why Jerry looks like ceilings. Distinguished but also foxy, yeah So I spent my last January twenty twenty losing twenty five pounds and covered hit. Me now again back twenty five pounds: yeah, I'm eggs, actually, where I was there, I exactly to the past don't even involving all circle, really angry us go with each other. I know, but I see no get back together out like man doing so good, and so good pandemic is good. Now, like to Americans, eat and drink all. I want right because it said so. You lost the way book or the pandemic yeah hit hard in January. Her too Jane. You are one January, first, probably of twenty twenty yeah. Like I was working on the trainer like yourselves having to go to her every like three days. her and just seen I was making the right decision.

And tracking and and the weight disappears and then covered head, and I just started making other on decisions and lead. Let myself do that. Yeah There have been all of us myself included. I went through what and through where I lost a bunch away, and I would manage to keep it off and then covered hidden. I was still doing ok Ok, maybe eating a little more than usual, like another letter have enough. I wasn't in then our book hit in vat or got me when we were writing it in working on it. Twenty twenty two hours a day every day I was eating so much. She came book. Wait I gained book way and I actually I have not been this big since I don't know when man, but I still got it so I'm dumb do what I can feel the same. I do well then, what I started two weeks ago, kicked in ass, a followed the same for you look great look at any rate, everyone feels great yeah. Let's talk about the appendix

me Dangerfield of organs. This is one of my favorite articles that we ve done in a while agreed. Then the Davies yeah and you know how I often complain about science. This is a kind science. I love yeah, understandable, yeah body size, understandable super cool, this factors into our hygiene, hypothesis episode. Our human microbiology episode digestive system are proceeding at all sort of fits together. In that little worm like organ, it's an organ right, yeah, it's an organ yap allowed people thought it was a vestigial organ wrong right, but it that we're little thing and out there just going through, this wigglin around like a little worm, is really can go and fascinating, and I love that it has a great story behind its life.

The usefulness and then turns out, usefulness and assist agreed. This is really good. Stuffed it smash. Bang stuff, you shouldn t right. Let's talk about it! So, like said, the appendix is like this little worm like thing that angles off the bottom of the ascending Corwin, large, untested, Colin large intestine, in law, bow are the one and the same soon year, because a bow typically talking about that Colin large intestines. All the same thing, which I found confusing until I looked it up and found kids all Thirty three to four inches long, the appendix right, generally of the biggest one was out of the seventy two year old Croatian man named Franco August during an autopsy and his was ten inches or twenty six centimeter Look. What do you think they were like him, an autopsy they're alive, how I think-

the medical examiner staff had a t shirt made up. That's a Franco August was buried in that said, I've got the biggest appendix ever. Maybe I mean that's crazy cause when you like anchored, you look up, picture of the appendix it is, looks like a little worm in its hang in there on this little bulbous pouch called the seek em and seek in this kind of like where it's it's the part in between the small untested, enlarge intestine, where thither there's an agreement that takes place basically, where the small intestines, like I listen I'll, take Elvis food and I'll make it into crime. But I am not going into the field. and now you handle the fecal stuff. Poland and the Kohen says fine. Here's my buddy the seeker. You got a little service. Little halfway house learning pass everything along to me. I will brokerage you ok, the group on you, Deston and I'll, send it

large intestine, but offer that seek him. His dangling this this little dude yet, which as far as anybody could ever tell had nothing to do with digestion, which may really weird, because everything else around here has to do with I, just I just I just what they do. That's their there. Their non trade in the appendix is hanging out, and people just thought. Ok, this this thing doesn't make any sense, but the young, the fact that is attached they're in doesnt, seem to have to do with digestion, made people for a very long time. Think It was a vestige organ right. which will get into the specifics of one man who really champion that idea in a way that, frankly, made a lot of sense and you can see why that many years for anyone to really put around further into it, Jack, as if you're, just like I just explained, is sure But there are other mammals that have see comes in some mammals, specially herbivores that can be really big relative to their body size because

in urban wars, it acts as the the prediction Jen House, for plants and since their eating tons of plants at large teacups. plain fibre, is really really good, for you is also really hard to digest yet lot of cellulose and that's that large and testing coming into play again, because in the stomach and small intestine There's a micro biota microbes, on which we talked about that one episode, the human microbes on project there's some in the small intestine. I think they're Zeb. Are far less even in the stomach, but in the large and testing. This were really shines can make that poop and those microbes the pathogens irises, the fungi all of the the bacteria. Most of all, they all kind of worker fighter, play and digest the stuff they break it down, so that we can absorb eternity in fibre dietary fibre keeps you from absorbing a lot of sugar vat, sir, whatever at once inside

able fibre bulks, your stool zoo. In really can it gets everything out of the column really cleansers it when you finally poop I've mixture and stricter yeah I've missed you seeing my hand gesture. I think that guy's easier, even where we recording a higher, obscure I forgot what it's like to be using, so so that the large intestine heads this micro by on that lives in there. Just remember that it's a big important point. We are put opinion that, but not literally right, because that would be dangerous out of the three hundred sixty one mammal species. Only about fifty of us have an appendix something like an appendix. Obviously, the great apes do rabbits possums Juan bats weirdly square poop. Do they really complicated comes on cubes, really

I can tell your messing with me right away. All I'd keep talking inheriting the square watermelons in Japan. I may be thinking of all over me. I'm pretty sure wamba have square our aid, a rare in show check, but dogs and cats don't have appendix cows, don't orders, don't she don't owe you little blue, hoop cubes square yeah. It looks like those eyes. Chocolate. How did he added that happen? Arrayed yeah? How does it work? I do have time to read it out so at eleven. If there's a science alert from January that says warm bats are the only animals that poop cubes and now we know how ok, well, that's a definite shorts done. Cable do liquor, that's in so back to who d vestigial organ aspects: Charles Darwin, it's a person who came out and said: hey I've been can these and by the way that was named officially by an anatomist name, fully their hand and seventeen ten appendix vermiform

minutes, which means worm, shape detachment, and I think the first appendix removal in seventeen, thirty five but dominoes one ed hate everybody, I've been these urban force and they ve got these really big. See comes yeah giant seek for this. For this reason that justice described Future Josh and he said so. Here's the deal is. When we see a bunch of plants we had humongous see comes as well and as our diet, it changed and we got away from plants. You know our body started to change along with it and that seek I'm just gonna shrink in the appendix is just a little shrivelled up Pisa. That formerly large seek them here, and it's dangling their due then, in that amazing and everyone. Until two thousand seven said it sounds right today, Darwins gotta right, doesn't it totally makes sense in seems completely believable Yes, but now that I know is wrong. I question every single thing he ever thought: overset you're welcome to our world. Darwin, though you guys miss

that one thing understood no fucking believe anything in writing when we hear that like every week to know it's fun. So beer went for, we went for well over a hundred and fifty years of just ever when believing that the the appendix was a totally useless. The Stick Org India that had no function whatsoever any longer, and so it was fine. If you just took it out, wages will see like people. Do a lot actually end. It is fine for the most part which were lucky that it's fine. but also, I think you ve. If it weren't fine, we would have figured out very quickly like await this, yet you're not supposed to do that. So the that we were able to remove the appendix later on without a problem, just kind of went to this earth lend support to the idea that it was a Vista Joergen right, but it turns out it does. Sir. Some function will start talking about that. I think, after a break, goody think Chuck. No, so smooth

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And now we can talk about the microbes. I am a little more and if you want to look into our human microbes on project works, show that was made thirteenth. Twenty forty and there are a hundred thirty troll trillion cells in the body about thirty trillion of those are human cells with dna and the rest of those hundred trillion. the Micro biome. That is, it amazing, and it's really there's something about the digestive system. That is frankly, turns a spot on but yet there were. These animations can cannot remember who made them many many years ago. Yes, but the animator just understood us level that even I'm like a like, I didn't know myself- lol shorts, crap clips Georgia,

did one about afford half minute clip from how the digestive system work, which is worth looking up on you to resolve their, I watched the other day they are. They were just gifted and talented sooner my favorite, their little things it wherever that someone ever did for his wife's say. Nick Nick sounds right. Ok, I think it was near its neck. Nick, please, like right in if you still believe neck moved on from UK. Well anyway, there are really great what nix work and if it was a knick knacks new nickname is Nick. That's right! Look at so! Yes, the digestive system does get his chosen. particular, the microbes on which we wouldn't have a digestive system, at least one that functions, because again those bacteria help us break, stop there. I would normally have trouble breaking down help us form prove all that stuff and it's a symbiotic relationship, because in breaking those those things down like that plant fibre, for instance,

their eating their happy there reproducing, but then the by products in the stuff they break open make. of Bio available for us and we can kind of did the nutrients and all that stuff from it, as well as the beautiful relationship. Not all bacteria is good, though now the bad stuff- and we should point out that most of this bacteria is in that large intestine, in the stomach small intestine most of its killed off by gastric acid, but the bad bacteria is, if you it's a bad chicken or if you have ever done. Yes, you need me have had all manner of stomach issues over the years. Where'd, you get your bed chicken. Remember I remember specifically, but I know it had bad food before that made me sick. and in my case in Guatemala, your member, oh yeah, you and Jerry. Both

Well, it was not me, you know what we were even closing our mouth in the shower weaving, so careful, but on that last night it was the ice. I know them the makes hiring. Oh, I forgot the ices made from water and that water was not good for Americans I still hope that night, so I'd immediate area, it was worth it up during that such an article, so yeah. I get bad sick after I got a trip, but that's the bacteria in that's how it can get into your body and your body listen to this mess. Jerry can affirm is diarrhoea. It's your bodies, way of saying we're. Just gonna flesh you out, and being discovered everything get rid of all the stuff it s going to take a lot of the good stuff with it right and that's no good if you have all the good bacteria are a large amount of good bacteria leaving your body the neck, leave you very vulnerable to nutritional

fish in seas and other bad stuff. Sure yeah, because I mean like a lot of the narrow transmitters that make your brain function correctly or produced in your gut rain, the battery, like there's a lot of bad things that can happen if you dont have about Micro Biomed, your gut right so injured, do University in two thousand seven. I guess someone was staring at picture of the human body from the inside out and locked in on that appendix Now, they're, like it's just sitting there attached to the sea, come it's got to do something and they did some studying in testing. The pangs went in fact knuckle exactly. You me and they figured out at this theory that this is a safe house. Essentially, for that bacteria, it's got a really rich bio film, which, as we talk about both on a bunch of episodes of you,

I guess you coating on the inside of the blinds of all kinds of things. Tat keeps bacteria mean destroyed, is like a protective mucus glare, yet Zactly, which has any of that sounds gross, but it's really good. In the appendix is this lousy with his great bio foam and they said, I think we think Duke universally blue devils think that this is a safe house for that good bacteria, because when the boy he's being flushed outward diarrhoea from his illness strike. The opinion down there at the end of a cul de sac, has not even get an affected basic right and so on. That bacteria leaves and takes the good with it. The appendix says I am here. Look at all my good bacteria friends. Yeah go forth into your work. Exactly does loop in It is also very big, conquer, mucus e bacteria or bacteria ridden mucus into your large and testing to recall a nice which is phasing in and all of a sudden, the signs world was turned upside down because they thought they

it turns out. They did find a use for the appendix yeah. And not only is it a storehouse. They found for bacteria the good bacteria that make up our microbial. It's also a place where lymph sites and other immune cells are produced. Like it's called lymphoid tissue were like t cells be cells. I think there's one called Tina serial killer cells, this great, which you don't want to mess with us, the icy yeah or Thee Woody Harrelson and Juliet Juliet Louis year of a means of their produce in the appendix right right. So when I recall innovation process going on. You could still have bad dogs in their bid to prevent them from taking hold those Une cells coming into wipe them out, while the good stuff comes back in and re colonizers, so

its index is a really apparently very useful work, and it has a use after all yeah you can still live without it. That's the weird thing Why? Why, if it produces this really important function, why would we see be able to live without it. How well we'll talk about it later, We'll know what I didn't see anywhere was like if you have, if you live, you know in an adverse way- because you don't have your appendix like- does that- make you more susceptible to certain if you have that food borne illness, Sir right, ok, so here's the other thing the there was more support from the fact that you can have your appendix remove right, so there's more support for the idea that the Appendix place rule and isn't vestigial from the fact we Thirdly, that if you remove it, at least in the

world you're you're still gonna, be Kay without it, it makes. No sense is a paradox. But then, when they looked into the paradise like actually does make sense, because hygiene hypothesis that you mentioned earlier. She doubted it sure, Well, hygiene hypothesis, in a nutshell- and I recommend you listen up. Six, it was really good. Bye is sorted because a little something like this. In developing our own, I'm sorry in the developed world are immune systems can be overactive and that's why we things like a large allergies, especially food, borne allergies, toy peanuts in tramp, that's sitting here in front of us falling outside- lake, because our immune system really wants to do something. It is not good. It reached Netflix and chill it likes to really be active in. If you

clean water and really good fresh food, and you know your body than to worry about that kind of stuff. It starts to attack your body and other ways just cause. I want something to do right. It's like one of those people are work who like in a break something and then fixes it is to show their working to people gotta be some people out there. We like nudge surveys off their desk, whereby very as at the base, back together points, but there have been any breaks for a while. You have to see how that would happen at our office likes it had some, I break about gas. We could break in our assess feeders like bad or maybe an ip person who, like screws up the system's everyone's, like you, gotta help us fix it right. Kind of like that. What about this? What about somebody who organizes things when they're already a certain way, but they did you have too much idle time, so they organise suffering of sudden there's a problem, that's kind of what I'm talking about so with the hygiene hypothesis

idea, as far as it relates to the appendix. Is that because, We live in this very sanitary version of the world where we don't get hookworm, because we don't wear bare feet, improved outside our drinking water clean- we don't have like the idea in it typically bright, because we're not exposed to the stuff Army system is on high alert, and so it attacks not just peanuts, but also potentially the appendix to just sitting there. It is just sitting there, but also remember it's a storehouse bacteria. It's also a storehouse of the lymph system so is producing immune cells in an apparently if you're a kid an you get appendicitis, which will talk about in a minute. All that whole thing, the number one cause of that is overproduction of limped cells, so as possible that your immune system says this

part of the body, is producing a lot of weird immune cells are way more than that should be a lot of bacteria here I hadn't noticed before it lets go attack it that your immune system attacks your appendix, and this inflammation and then that creates the appendicitis that can be dangerous later. That's how very weird I would anybody say that well, Chuck turns out There is a paradox that hand in hand with developing countries? Well, yeah I mean they seen. This kind of proven out in developing countries is, as they become more, developed and more industrialize their rate of appendicitis has gone way up in their body. Previous to that, industrialization is maybe getting water, that's not great for them. or food that might carry some sort of food borne illness, so their immune system is like we're with. We love this person in this call. Because we're always busy flush in this system out with with diarrhea

and where it is hard at work, and we don't have time to to create some vague peanut or to go after the appendix is not sitting around doing anything right so that this is its busy and they seen, as they become more industrialize appendicitis of up and sort of lockstep with that yet happened in the United States in Europe. In the beginning, in the twentieth century, there was a big spite like before that there is no such thing as appendicitis, basically bright. There was very, very rare visa and then huge in enormous spike, and then it plateaus and stabilize, as I think in both western unease, in Europe and the U S were hovered around a hundred cases per hundred thousand people yet of appendicitis these days, over in, like, I think South Korea around their time, no appendicitis later the twentieth century early twenty first century as their development went through the roof huge cases. A huge increase of appendicitis here

and then you can just kind of followed around the world. Is development comes appendicitis goes up and they think that its hygiene ipod threat. That explains it. I love it. So you get the safe house theory that the appendix actually does have a per in a row and then you have the hygiene hypothesis. That explains why appendicitis is a thing in developed countries will, should we take a break and dig into appendicitis? I think we should and be awfully painful and growth. This absurd is brought to you by IBM from laboured oodles to credit. The world loves a hybrid and so do business is so today there going hybrid with IBM

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you're hybrid cloud, using the tools, platform and expertise of IBM. The world is going hybrid, with IBM, go hybrid at IBM, Dotcom, slash, hybrid cloud Albert, as everyone heard, were just sit down, and so we ve been answered around the appendicitis kind of this whole episode? It was identified? the first time in eighteen, eighty six by Reginald fits and before that they do said. You know if you got an abdominal illness and you die because of it. It's you know it's just you had a bad stomach ache that killed you sorry, yeah, so sad

Dave Road, one of my favorite lines in the history of stuff. He should know articles he said fits was the first a finger. The appendix is the culprit sites Nathan finger the appendix that's it that's a spinal tebrick, that's gross, but you actually probably could finger the appendix because it is like, I think, a little pow year to dislike. About finger. Sized you can figure for men to the Franco August, its attendant man, you're so appendix everyone, the appendix everybody, grew a calm down, come down so dependent this happens, because basically I mention it was a cul de sac it to its end of the road situation when you get to the far end of appendix, but other end that connects to the seek m, is very narrow and opening is not that big and they can get clogged up of bacteria. It can get clogged up with certain kinds of seeds, certain Your body undigested hayseeds, hayseeds,

It can kick. This is really gross, but it can get clogged with fecal lists which are stone like pieces of petrified feces, My friend I saw that that is the number one re israeli appendicitis and adults is piglets if I were to say, but they you know, that's would have opening blocks bacteria builds up, it gets in flight and in information is that sort of enemy of all the human body, bright and start to get fever nausea. You got pain, you might get a pain in your of lower right side of your gut yeah, because the three appendixes like, if you make a l, shape with your thumb and forefinger like the loser, exactly I didn't want to say it, but a capture, we're gonna, get some email about their the. If you take the thumb and put it in your naval in point, your finger to your hip, that is,

like in the little. We is where your appendix ok we're your thumb. yet the low webbing yeah very well that if you get a pain there and you are nauseous might have a fever, then get led to a hospital emergency room as you might have advanced appendicitis at that point can be a problem. You might have been appendectomy quick like they can do super fast. If you get a really really early, they might can cure it with just antibiotics, which is great, but I think one thousand eight hundred and eighty seven very year after fits identified, the disease in eighteen. Eighty six is when they had their first appendectomy yeah. means they had been happening, the whole time they finally just said a wait, a minute. I think it's the appendixes, while these people are dying from this, the stomach pains

right, so maybe we can start in removing the subtle, useless, dangle guy. I think it was a guy named Thomas Morton, maybe yeah Thomas Wharton was the surgeon who looks like he lost his brethren son from mysterious stomach ailments, but there was probably ruptured appendixes and that's what happens at ruptures and then leaks bad stuff, endear intestines in your your test. Yes, so so when the appendixes infected in it leaks, stuff, perforates is what they called burst is another way to put it yet ending. I think on how bad it is all their infected pus. If there's figures soon there, the whatever bacteria they have with them all that stuff Gill for that their military? It builds right. It's spills into your abdomen. And your admin has inner, has abdominal wall and it has an inner coding called the parrot Tony him and the pair Tonia is not to be infected.

If anything, is very delicate, doesn't like gross stuff, then keep all there in the appendix in the intestines, in all that yet large invested. But when you're appendix person releases, all of it get your per tonne him. In fact, in your per Tonia is like a highway straight to your blog. vessels, raid into your organs and all of a sudden infection goes from your appendix which you can deal with two your pair tony and being infected, which means Europe and then your organs are infected, which means you can go into shock in Europe's. Have us cascading system failures, that's, why he s an emergency when when you have like appendicitis gives it may ruptured that can be problematic, yeah an Eu still die from that. I think the surgery itself in ten, twenty five, the mortality rate from an appendectomy was fourteen percent, now it's down to point well

one tenth of one percent, whatever that is pretty low, and that was since amid fifties, but that's the that's the more when you re for the Epp and active me right, the search the surgery furry appendicitis, I think overall, maybe worldwide it some. I think point to two point: eight percent, which means to between two and eight of every tuning People who get appendicitis out of every thousand people who get appendicitis, there's gonna be an easy way to say this. They die from it they rise afar, not many, but that significant, if you're, no eight people out without innocent Fisher. I wanted to be point, eight, and I think the mortality rate is lowest and young people obviously All those young people between ten in thirty or the most likely to have an appendectomies in great yes, which is interesting. It's weird, the reason its low. Some very young people is that

common knowledge among doctors in the medical field? Is that the appendix has played a role for a long time, but it's just a part of your means. So, when you very young I have. Pressure, that is old, school thinking. That is pre bacteria, safehouse thinking what that young kids don't get it, because does have killer immune systems yen that the appendixes just on fire and assist happily working and that it can, come problematic after it stops providing is its function? Ok, there is that the younger you are the more vulnerable. You are dying from diarrhoea diseases. There infections and so you would have a healthier immune system in kids. Do have like this has helped the immune system, but I think the medical understanding up until recently. Is that that the appendix plays a part of that right data, but that it stops

functioning as you get older and then you're vulnerable to appendicitis, and then after you make it out of the danger zone, you can is basically coasts and get fecal all day long up your appendix and it doesn't matter the new Thinking is that no it's the store house for stuff weeds. I needed any more because we don't really Yet dire real infections here in the developed world. Right right, ok, so make sense. But genocide is is a thing, and if you do go to you, if you do have symptoms, it seems weird. And realized painter on your naval or where you're appendixes you should go to the doktor. The thing is: is this new idea that the appendix actually does server function has has, at least in some quarters created this call for doctors to stop doing what are called negative appendectomies where's. I guess I'm a painless. Take your appendix out and you see if that fixes

yeah, because supposedly a non perforated appendix may actually resolve itself right like it may go, unlike some that seed out when I go back to normal or wherever that right and you don't want to lose your appendix Willy nilly for now, for one year undergoing surgery, there's always complications. Rhin vessel is urging that point as though don't just stay home. there is this one paper I read was like you're better off for the position to wait and see in the house keep your hospital under observation. Yes to that it Do need emergency surgery you're there, yet and then it may resolve itself on its own if it hasn't perforated already or then that that's that's per bold to just removing right appendix noted, a hug you do, I predict me, don't be like I can still play. My street came later

yeah. I think they were saying like it's not up to you. The patient like just go to the hospital, I'm talking to the doctors right now, you were saying, of course you know, don't remove the appendix if it if it doesn't need removing we at Harriet any. I think, sir. Yes, this is oh addendum, I can't think like an appendix I think we should do Perry, Houdini episode at some point. You bet, do you think so we talk about this now I think we should do Houdini around Halloween. Ok, let's ounce fantastic, I try to think of something around with we will now is like a thumbs up like a magna fini, our great that was your husband. coming to solve a right, thereby using good wealthy people really don't know that I just left the room for like fifty minutes, trying to think of something magical. Editing Jerry do you like the star wipe them so there

Few people who have died from ruptured appendix that they believe that young, the Mornin profit did Charles the only person, the Lewis and Clark Journey expedite. Die. I didn't rumour that did you. I think I am Just mentioning. I do remember that one person diarrhea and we're like what was his problem. While you screw everything up and says so here you dini- did die of an appendicitis I think we ve said Parian Idas, yet we did we say that the actual word at the hour- I don't know, but that's the affection of the pair Tonia yeah. That's the name of it, though the and that's what you do. You, like, you don't die from your appendix parading because again, like provides a function, but it's not Doesn't keep you alive so, like your heart bursting, bright rights, AIDS appeared.

Appeared to me. I M getting infected right, kills you so Houdini did die of that. But you know the old story is that he had come off stage. He was back stage and is green room and presumably having smart food and beef jerky if you're that you should know shadowing closer everywhere from opening about a man. I can't wait to do that again here, but I can wait. Guess not do nothing. I'm sorry, I wanna get on a plane. You now not quite yet, but we're looking for that for sure the one you know there are these college students came back stage and one almost like a herd than anyone can put you in the stomach. And that you were, you can make it a strong and want to hurt you. I am pretty good stomach puncher. He as well. That is so and the guy punches pointillism before even the chance to really prepare and say sure, bring it right and thou there. A sucker put a sucker punchy within it. That burst is appendix and that's how he died in that stories just a little

blurry around the edges is how that went down exactly right. Yes, so there the there were eye witnesses- and they did say that this guy did punch Houdini, there is conflict. whether or not Houdini gave the guy permission to punch in Managua figure, distorted punching There was a young man named Joscelyn. Gordon Whitehead, Whitehead, Houdini's S. Words were done in by a guy named Joseph, didn't see that one account was that he was still lying on. The council's cuts the wailing on his stomach well, yeah, because he he had injured is ankle. The the the I think now before a couple days before so use reclining on the couch. I guess somebody was sketching and was basically like that. Seen in time, really yeah is drawn up. And dumb and the guys, the drawing on eye, and then the guy

punches Amerika. There happened the question. The thing that debts to get that sketchy is whether or not there punch to Dini in the appendix in who days appendix ruptured Roy Otherwise, wouldn't have they think that that happen, very, very rarely just handed the Niger honour by blood tromp yeah. They think that he paused they had appendicitis already this guy punched, Harry Houdini in his inflamed Appendix II, and at that created problems. So the guy death, He killed Houdini one way or the other is yes did Houdini already have appendicitis or not right, and he probably did most most scholars say: yes, there's just no way this, little guy from Mcgill University mean come on the can eighty and Harvard Gimme a break joscelyn yeah that that he'd he burst Houdini's appendix yeah I was ahead of weird bridge,

Houdini obsession when I was a little kid. I think I did You know I'm some sort of visual report. You know when you would just you're, not even maybe it was a buck report interpretive dances. Everything that's what it was but TAT was on. I was just for a little while this was really Houdini obsessed and then kind of magic obsessed, oh yeah and that one of those kids at a magic face deserve a kid I may have had a cat. Did you, girls, like the trick, shops, magic shops near those one called Eddie stricture appeared in this domain, and then I went there are some egos and laces were greeted the cafe cards, or some nice faint vomit, Yeah yeah always looked up to the person behind the counter, and then you grew up like a thief I think now is the magic shop and in the places sell those saw the old mare magazines. Those were the two this places on the planet there when you're a certain age. You know anything else about appendix dependency,

Sardinia. None of this is good, but quite enjoy this experience. I did too thanks you, for listening and does since we will have anything else about the appendix set means it's time for listening to me, going to call this great idea from a ten year old listener, and this in One is genuinely going on me to do file dear in this short sweet, dear Chuck, Brandt indulge Goerck, I'm his jacket, I'm ten years old and from high author Iowa and those in your pocket. While I mo my daddy this major progress and they ve been great favor so far was probably titanic. Really interesting wireless internet when it wasn't really interested in the titanic. But when I listen, I got more interested, I was wondering if you ever thought doing one on child labour. It was every month grass, so ok, yeah, I learned about in school and want to know more about it. Thank you for all your great podcast letters from Jack, and that is

is on brand stuffy episode. Is I've ever heard, given also coming from a child labour? S really can as a certain like glow to China. I think that's a great idea. I wonder if this kid is dislike, I'm gonna get my parents back for this maybe because it dear remember wanting to mow the grass when you're ten totally and then use return by the third or fourth time you like I've, made a terrible mistake. Well it other than that, but it also dependent on the kind of lower that your parents Stuckey with yeah. We did ever Therefore, a short time now, it's kind of pre current car driver area as like driving here, but with the blade spit thousands of arguments riper, maybe I'd like to ensure it is put that nine year old in the sea, who is yet again that was Jack Jack? Thank you great name, great idea, great personal, around coming soon like again in Ghana and Jack

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