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That is why I was research and took no one ever says in a city of never hurt. Anybody say everyone says End W C p, which I think can it gives the whole thing a convict. We can old friend kind of feel too. You know I'm saying we I mean, since you brought that up there had been people questioning the name in modern times of National Association for the advancement of colored people. and some people have floated african American so in in double a double ay. I guess could be away that you say that, but they at this is, I think, from two thousand seven, so the leader of the endeavour way cp at the time. I think
hey there's so much in the name, so much currency at this point yeah that switching it is kind of tough and also for he said you know what kind of about the rights of many kinds of people. So we don't want to just say African American, so yeah now there's a lot lots of linked the articles, but It seemed to make set em from your actually what I've, what I've read is the the underbelly c p is kind of in this lengthy process of some kind of reinventing itself a re establishing itself, and it seems like one of the things that they are starting to kind of gophers, especially economic equality for all. people so they're, really kind of gibes with, in other, Sir, that Guy mistake. They grew into the name. Finally, now in the twenty first century, which is surprising Kennedy, yes, you read back in the old way back machine,
then, a little while we gotta put some error in the tires. First, the yes did we get in that thing at our last year. I don't think so. And we just prize winner, you should have been getting nothing ever I know we totally didn't, but ok, so here we go we're getting in the way back very well we're gonna go back to. Let's go back to nineteen o nine can't nobody saw go back to when the organisation was founded and the reason. Why was because well for lots of reasons, but I think this sort of inciting incident was in August of nineteen. Oh eight
when in Springfield Illinois, there were two gentlemen arrested on suspicion of rape and attempted rape and murder and the cops there were a little afraid of what might happen because, as you will see in this episode, there was a tendency for extra judicial violence, a k, a lynchings to happen. If people got worked up so they said, let's get these guys. The year was taken to another town. The mob of people show up and realise that they have been moved and did not take kindly to that in rioted in Springfield Yes, I like, as a result of this, the Sir Springfield There were like two thousand black residents bring fellow annoy you who were displaced they just of homes they mark as had been burned to the ground. I'm six people were murdered. Two people were,
Changed to innocent men were lynched, basically a sting Indians for the two men that they had originally intended to launch yeah. Sixteen people ended up losing their lives over those three days and nine black people. Seven white people five died from conflict with the state militia that was called in in two white people died by suicide and for many many years a pencil. I think semi recently isn't the seven white people that died. Those debts were attributed to two being killed by black people that were there, and that is not the case. we're literally rewriting history in that case, while one of the other big things about this, too, is aside from the that is happening in this. As you know, these happen with enough frequency like that it was a is a real problem but one of the other things of about these, these you know
these rights are massacres of black residents. In usually, there evolved out of a lynching with it. They went on punished, oftentimes they were uninvested, gated they're, just wasn't much. If any done about em. So they kind of it became clear that this, of larger issue is already very clear among the african american community in the United States, but if it kind of caught the the attention of some connected white social justice activists who were working at the time to that's right so in nineteen o, nine men aim w e b d Ivoire, which is one of the great all time names. Oh yes, we ve got three initials and that's what you're gonna role with antibiotics are pretty killer. Name too, that he was a humanity's professor. He was a rider. He was the first
African American to earn a doctorate degree from a university in the United States harbour here. Less that's right. He got together with forty other social activists in New York, and it was, you knows, is mixed races, those group of black people and white people mixed religions. There were jewish people there. It was described as a group of black and white activists, Jusan Gentiles in the Library of Congress, and they chose February twelfth to get together, because I was Abraham, Lincoln S birthday. And that is where they establish their first charter- is a group yet the first time they met, they were not considered. The end doubly sepia was an until their second meeting, the first time they call themselves National Negro Committee and then in nineteen ten when they met again, they said, was courses the National Association for the advancement of people and then W C P was officially born, although they considered. The actual founding
back in nineteen o nine, and, like you said yes, there is it was multi. Racial, multiethnic and white people were involved, because they were very much concerned about the quality the of life and the the ability of getting ahead for African Americans in in the United States at the time and for this, innovation to really kind of find its legs and find its footing and in survive. It's in the crucial first few years, eight needed v, well connected, very wealthy white supporters and so
was a integration at the highest levels and then, eventually, within a few years, it was kind of like ok, it's it's we it's time for us to step back. We if we establish this thing and in it can kind of go indefinitely from here. Yes or getting back that charter. I think it's. The words are pretty important. It said it was to promote equality of rights and eradicate, cast or race prejudice among citizens of the United States to advance he interested colored citizens to secure for them impartial suffrage and to increase their opportunities for securing justice in the court's education for their children, employment, according to their ability and please equality before the law, and I think it's pretty important because it really can lay the groundwork. For what I mean you have there been all sorts of activists groups over the years.
Errors in the african american Community and theirs was always sort of about. Let's attack this in the courts and let's attack it from was attack these systems in the courts. That are, you know where the cards or so stacked against us by law. And let's get some of these laws overturned yeah I was, I mean that still been their strategy basically threw out. It was. It was the strategy from the beginning and it still is today, which is in it an opposition, but it's it's complimentary to other strategies like direct action which is like come. You know going too a counter and in sitting in protest the segregated lunch counter or not giving your seat upon a bus. And do you know during civil rights we will see. Like then De Lacey P had enough, and direct action, but it's always been known as like this, like just shooting for the two biggest the trophies of all. You know like change, finance
change at the national level, legislatively that's what they ve, always kind of been about the end of lacy P. Yes, as some of these are some of the folks in the very first group, the first president was a constitutional lawyer, nay more field story, a great man, those a woman named for its Kelly, who was also an attorney who worked a lot in a ploy in employment reform. Do you remember her from the France's Perkins episode? She was the woman who inspired Francis Perkins. I do she street. Yes, she is great to us. Well, they were, you know they needed to make some way in the press that was sort of one of the big problems at the time. As you know, lynchings were being covered in the press. A lot of their rights, They were being trampled on weren't covered in the mainstream press, so they had a good group of writers, essayist journalist
would get in there and they would you know they would they founded there on paper, which was huge? The crisis which is still around today, neither magazine, but mainly just trying to get recognized in mainstream newspapers. Their work yam again, some of the early supporters and people who founding members had big time connections in the press, guy Oswald Garrison Village, he was the publisher of the New York evening. Posts the nation magazine, so he could very easily get stories about things like lynchings into his his paper in his magazine, where other other places wooden print, that kind of stuff and then yes scribe, worship of the crisis, crew had a bigger and bigger impact, so yeah kind of part and parcel it seem like
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so you look at some of the early successes in the first part of the twentieth century, one of the big ones you can point to is in Oklahoma and nineteen ten, where they had a state regulation that limited the rights of black citizens to vote. It was a grandfather clause, basically where they said you need- and I think we talked about this in the voter suppression up here for shut. You need to be able to pass illiteracy tests and in order to be eligible to vote. Unless you had a grandfather who voted in eighteen, sixty six and side note this before or black people were allowed to vote in Oklahoma. So they basically were saying if you're alive in your white. You can vote if you're illiterate in your black. You can't you Oklahoma was particularly agree to say was one of I think, like seven or eight states that had a grandfather clause, but Oklahoma said I'm not
leave. Her grandfather could vote in eighteen. Sixty six. If you in another country in eighteen, sixty six and would have been eligible to vote or could vote in that country. You year, and father it in so basically is long as you weren't black, you could, you could vote. if you were illiterate, so the end w C p filed suit against this. In a very famous case, colleagues, versus the? U S and Green was named after I ain't goin, in who, along with J J B or a couple of elections, officers who had didn't, who has basically been charged with disenfranchises black motors through the grandfather clause and the supply core heard this and said you know what this is. N, double ACP group. I've not heard of them before, but they prison pretty good case. So we're going to go ahead and overturn this grandfather clause, and you know this is one thousand nine hundred and fifteen boy cp? It only met for the very first time, six years before and all
sudden, their overturning race based described these laws about voting at the Supreme Court that definitely caught the attention of people in the civil rights community for sure yeah? That's why I mean it's when you look back through history, this that the States rights argument that we still here today is such a tricky thing, because you know states should be allowed to do a lot of things as they see fit. But you can't you can't disenfranchise voters wilfully disenfranchised voters. And that's when the federal government comes in, and people start crying foul that they want to be able to run their elections there way right, which means we dont want black people to vote in can't do that. You know I've been thinking about this recently, since we did our clan episode, because I noticed that every time the clan went away was after the federal government intervene, because the states wouldn't right in
then I came up with. I guess, a good rule of thumb. Good litmus test is: does this law discriminate against anybody, right. Anybody does matter what group it is forget. The group tv group out of it is it a disk, a tory law, and I cannot think of a single instance Discriminatory law would be beneficial for the greater good of of the country or for the health of the of democracy. I just I can't think of one unless You're discriminate discriminating against somebody's right. Discriminate against somebody, maybe, but that would be the case, but that scene, pretty good rule of thumb. To me that I just came up with, does not discriminate, yes or then it's probably a pretty bad law, Josh, twenty twenty twenty twenty two only twenty twenty two twenty four here. That's allow far into the future. I should try my hand, What is that for years
I don't know, but worlds is basically with ones and zeros, I think by then another big thing that can happen early on it was. We talked about birth of the nation in our pursued on the clan and they The Dublin CP got together the settlers boycott this terrible movie and the boycott didn't do a lot in terms of shutting anything down and drank the birth of a nation. But it did draw them some. Finally, some mainstream publicity and got them written up in newspapers at least right. So I mean they had some early successes and especially with overturning the grandfather clause, but I don't know after this around this time, they they really. And redouble their efforts back onto the original tension which was to do something about lynching to get an anti lead.
Anti lynching law, national federal law passed in the United States and what's crazy, Is it that still hasn't happened, that is recently is June of twenty twenty ways we failed. do it yet again, which is just not to me, but the W C p M was really trying to get this to get legislation passed it No, even back then it just made since now today is to shameful that we don't have something, but the thing that kind of double their refocus? Then Tbilisi, peace efforts on Anti Lynn lynching legislation, was the linen of a teenager named Jesse, Washington and Waco Texas in nineteen sixteen, and even as far lynchings go. This was particularly the gruesome yeah
I mean not only was the act gruesome, which was, he was tortured, hanged set on fire and beaten, but it was in front of o estimates range from eight to seventeen thousand people, like basically the size of a small you now hockey arena Medium Medium sized hockey arena you're like I'm, not going above media. Well, I'm trying to think these days. How much does like your average mba hockey twenty twenty thousand. How I don't I'm such a terrible judge of anything like that, so well, ass, you say a medium sized hockey Irene. I think they got it across any.
reason I'm saying that is because its if you try and if you go to a pro sports gamer big concert, try to imagine that many people gathered together to watch a man, a human being, beat burns and hanged in front of your face and try to put myself in the not in the mindset but out of all those people like how many of those fifteen thousand people. Were one hundred percent fully charged. Do this do this, and how many as it happened were like my God, what has happened to us as human beings and Americans Were there any people there that regretted what was going on? I'm sure and if they didn't regretted during mace, I'm sure some regretted it afterward, but I think one of them things that made Jesse Washington's lynching so disturbing to the rest of the nation, was that it was reply that there was a carnival like atmosphere.
People were enjoying themselves and enjoying their time gathered together with all the other residents, we go in and linking this, this teenager the end. W c p sent an investigator there too, to basically document the whole thing, and she came back with this report. That became something called the the horror of Waco. For the weaker horror and then doubly double said, we're going to we're going to get this, There were going to tell the world about this and they they definitely did, and it had a really big impact
You know what it reminds me of. His is the only thing I can compare to these days when a high profile death row inmates is executed and outside the prison. There, though they are those parties and stuff yeah. You know, and I want to weight into the the capital punishment debate here, but there's something about that blood less. That just feels really good. To me yet that's my initial statement. Return mercenaries life inventions anytime vengeance is driving things, it's usually time to take a pause and reflect on what you're doing Ok, already, rules the thumbs coming out today, just twenty twenty twenty do yeah. So yesterday they put out these pictures Like you said were covered in mainstream newspapers, and you know I think it shocked the country.
obviously not enough, but it was a big wake up. Call, I think, to a lot of people. What happened in Waco and the end table in double ACP was able to to really pivot on this and bring up something like the dire bill, which I think was the first piece of anti lynching legislation: sponsor by Lee Unitas another great name, the highly united dire republican congressmen for Missouri that died in the Senate sick. I think it passed the house in twenty two and then died in a Senate after a filibuster from the southern Democrats. Yes, the Dixie Crap and I was the first of many many attempts yeah, apparently over, like by the middle of the century. There were two hundred ain't. He lynching bills that were introduced and died in Congress just by the mid century and like The thing is recently is June of twenty twenty. There was the answer.
lynching law that was that past the Senate unanimously one hundred zero. and then I went over to the house where it past four hundred and fifteen four hundred and ten two for then the thing the house did was changed: the name to the Emmett till Anti lynching law, which means then, to go back to the Senate to be passed again, because that one changes bed been made, the name had been changed and when it up to the Senate. Rainfall from Kentucky said I'll feel good about this. though he was part of the unanimous Senate that had passed it unanimously just before it other change, was made, except for the name and that really ticked alot of people off, but still to this day, that law is blocked in the United States, still does not have a law that makes lynching a federal crime. Yet
So if you want it, I mean this was really big news. So I'm sure a lot of people know about this. But if you're curious about Rand Paul's defense was, he said: quote this bill with cheap in the meaning of lynching. By defining it so broadly as to include a minor, Bruce or abrasion, our national history of Rachel Terrorism demands much more serious than a seriousness than that, so what he was contending was he wanted. He wants. The language changed. Because in the language now it says the standard in federal hate crimes is serious. Our I'm sorry is-
bodily injury, and I think he wants a change to serious bodily injury and other words. If someone gets punched in the face, it would be called and considered a lynching and the way it's written now and he said there should be substantial risk of death and extreme physical pain in order to qualify as lynching. Otherwise he said it disrespects. What real lynchings were so take that for what it is what it's worth, the the Senate formerly apologized in two thousand five for failing to outlaw lynching, so the hypocrisy of thousand five and still it hasn't, been put forward on the books yeah. So like we said, the elder, Blasi P M for decades in decades, leading up to the civil rights era was very
much focused on preventing lynching, I'm getting linking outlawed and bringing attention the huge mass of issue of wanting in the United States. They had a flag that they would unfurl out out of their headquarters in New York. Whenever A lynching was reported you said a man was lynched yesterday, which pass out I read it yeah I read it knows. I clouds in other Muslim is something that I saw a picture of it and it's one of those ones where the pictures worth thousand words, Agnew, see added. It really tries home what they were doing in really kind of makes you really like Vanderbilt Superior care. Go get em you now, let's get lynching outlawed, yeah You talked about the numbers over that time period of four thousand plus comes out too.
More than one lynching a week in the United States over that period, that was like verified, known and reported. So may clearly, you know probably more than that. So yet this is happening literally on a weekly basis. United States. Someone is going out on their own vigilante style and hanging, not always hanging a black man, sometimes worse, Yes, I mean, if you can, there was sometimes they would just burn the whole black section of town down like in nineteen. Seventeen see Saint YE. Saint Louis saw a race massacre just like there had been in Springfield, not too long before, so like you, I wasn't just lynching. It was just mob violence in enforcement of segregation. The thing that set off the Saint Louis Riot was, a black family moved into a white neighbourhood. If I'm not mistaken, that was the instance that set it off so yeah, There is a noticeable.
Problem. Racial violence was even bigger problem than it is today back before the civil rights here right. So during this right, Syria, obviously the invalid, be in the OECD is can be very active, saw some really great successes. They are sort of leading the way Why being in the capital, trying just scores and scores of cases in the courts, helping people register to vote taking part in the Mississippi Freedom Summer, one thousand nine hundred and sixty four. If you don't know, if you know the name rose, no it she did. You may not know that she was the Montgomery and W C p secretary, so she actually worked for the organization yeah. I don't remember: do we do a whole episode on Rosa Parks in the bus boycott was part of another episode. We did. I can't remember Oliver. Videos in everything is still in my head
Why it's? What we did a? We did, the free of one on the freedom schools, the air. I don't remember, what we did, what we talked a lot about Rosa parks- and I don't know if it was her own episode or not. If not, she deserves her own episode, but yeah yeah, which she was a secretary for then Tbilisi PM in Birmingham or Montgomery. I'm sorry and if you start to look at some of the big events of the civil rights era, you, sir, to realize that oh wait a minute. There was an m in Tbilisi, P, field officer or those persons people were, you know, members of the local and De Lacey peep branch. There were a lot of like legal strategies in as if that were launched by the end of lacy p. That appeared to just be direct action like Rosa barks it had enough. I wasn't gonna get up that day that that when you will back the way or low, but this is part of a larger strategy of trying to force lawsuits in court cases so that they can
all the way up to the Supreme Court, and sometimes they were very, very effective yeah I mean, notably in the mid nineteen fifties. They set their sights on the school system and separate, but equal. They wanted to take that down and brown versus versus boarded education. Mina. One of the landmark case in the history of this country, Thurgood Marshal and in doubly cp lawyer, who was actually later on in the late sixties, became the first black Supreme Court justice. He argued that segregation in public schools is, I mean it is flat out very clearly unconstitutional, and this is one of those times were every justice and the court agreed and said yeah that that that is not constitution in any way right. So I think they said that we were there. We need to He segregate with all all haste. I can remember the
act wording, but it was. It was vague enough that it would you like it, he split really what exactly constitutes Lickety split like shirts, faster than I turtles crawl, but is it as fast as a hare running in this programme, but that there is a huge backlash that it wasn't just like. You know especially southern states really are you know we had a pretty good run at a segregated school system. It's in a way tat. It run it course and now it's time to desegregate. That's not at all how it went at the very least local. This polities, even states. We tried to to come up with new laws that provided loopholes, desegregation some states said you will find. Maybe we'll just abolish public schools altogether, and then we don't have to follow this, this federal law any longer there were there. physical violence there were some
It's a tremendous amount of pushed back to the idea of de segregating schools in the whole thing really kind of found. Its fruition centre high school Little Rock Arkansas and which was I don't. I don't know who is the first, school to be disaggregated or if it was, just the one that that was the the the most nuts or the first one that was the most nuts but the the governor of art saw said not I my watch any called something like ten thousand National Guard troops to be there on the first day of school, I think September. Fourth, nineteen, fifty seven to block the entry of the kids. known as the Little Rock nine nine african american high school students, whose bravery is just breathtaking. When you stop and think about it, who were trying
to go into this newly desegregated high school. They go to class and they were blocked for something like I think. Twenty days before They could finally make their way in yet this was after the little room. School Board unanimously voted to integrate their schools. They were gonna start with high school that year and followed the following year with junior high in elementary school and, like you said, those nine, and not only brave kids, but you know families of those kids because they all had to endure what was coming. Obviously, they tried an I got. This is the part this really confusing, because Governor Fabius went to Newport Rhode Island to meet with president Eisenhower about this is described as a brief meeting. An Eisenhower supposedly thought that fathers had agreed to unroll these students and said that you now to go hidden, keep those troops there to keep airy
safe- and I don't know that was a genuine misunderstanding. I read lots of accounts, it is, and it seems to have been a misunderstanding He got back to little rock though, and there was a court order on September twentieth from a federal judge. That said, you gotta get those troops out of there and let these kids go to school and they see two men literally slipped him in the side door and a full scale riot erupt it and he you now he allowed this violence to happen, couldn't stop it and they called up for federal help at that time and that's when eyes an hour had to step in and issue executive order, one of seven three zero, which called him the hundred first airborne. Yet it the white troops of the one hundred percent when they withdrew the black troops and dumb days they didn't stay there. All your, but there were army units there for the remainder of the academic year yeah.
And one one the Little Rock nine was a senior and he graduated became one of the first african American soon to graduate from public Highschool me: U S from an integrated high school. I think four of the nine who do for the eight who didn't graduate, were willing go back the next year. The others were like forget that man this year, easy! Maybe greedy readers will need an army to enforce a year. I mean one wonder was pushed down the stairs one girl acid thrown on her face, they word paraded in harangued on a daily basis, not just by like students but by parents and severe is just one of the ugliest chapters of american history was desegregation of schools in December. nation in general, but schools in particular because return. My kids here you know, I'm saying kids were being subject
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so check the enabling cp definitely had a huge hand, along with a bunch of other groups, including the southern christian leadership kind friends in the student non violent coordinating committee, just a lot of different groups to help get some massive legislation passed. Remember we said from the outset. The underbelly cp had always been focused on social, justice in change, an improvement in the lives of a mere of african Americans through legislation through basic the federal government intervention saying: ok, everybody's equal now we're going to enforce that, and they they did it. They got it passed with this. civil rights ACT. The voting Rights ACT, Fair Housing act, the sweeping reforms that were passed in the sixties, they basically cheese. Their goal, and was ironic, is from almost that point forward. They were like
Ok, war, how'd. We, how do we proceed from here, and there has been a lot of opportunity for people to take part shots of ended C p in question the relevancy in the post civil rights era, which I think when you really and dig entered, as is generally unfair, but in some cases has been worn to do, and you can make a case of that The OECD is still to this day, trying to figure out there their bearings again in a post civil rights era, yeah this kind of started in the seventies when there was a bit of an ideological shift in protest and how that looks instead of in the courtroom, we did great episode on the black power No, we did a black panther, but whose party like Power Movement Yet- and that was a little more in fashion at the time, a little more in your face, I kind of activism, the indolence
The OECD, I think, was sort of looked at a little bit. His like will know that Europe that your grandfather's realization, I got the impression two year like we want we want to get up in your face and really make some news and make some change that way. I think, revenue stayed pretty high in the mid seventies until they started getting hit with a lot lawsuits. There are always in court defending things as well as is trying to get legislation passed in and prosecuting things, but that left them on the verge of bankruptcy. At one point, there were a couple of high profile, presidents that were fired, there were allegations of financial mismanagement and they had to lay off a lot of its workforce and two thousand seven in so it's just. It's been a little bit of a road to hope, since the civil rights era
in two thousand for the IRS gun of all, because they are a non profit yeah. They said you're supposed to be a non partisan group here and you're saying things particularly this speech in two thousand, for which is pretty much very anti Bush right, any any can't do that as a non profit. So right, it's been sort of a more irregular pass it they ve been on and they ve been trying to find their way. I think you're, the end ablaze, you pay, is kind of been stuck in this between a rock and a hard placing where there used on one side of being way to moderate and not yearly active enough than the others. their accused of being Anti republican. You know and actually came out again Their iris threat and investigation used to your investigation to whether or not they should hold their five or one c three status, and they they came back. They they lastly, back rather than just kind of taking it, they said movement. This is the bushes
restrictions IRA, saying we shouldn't be talking smack about President Bush or criticising President Bush. That seems fairly politically me evaded an IRA ended up dropping that investigation and they kept their fibre whence he threw three status so good for them on that, but one of the other, big problems. I read you kind of said like there is this, especially during the black: our movement seventies they were criticised is not being in your face. Enough of being too too bureaucratic and slow. Moving this same exact. Thank you Actions are being levelled against them still today. Sure, I'm very much in the face of the black lives matter, movement in one of the big problems at the underbelly cp has. Is there it's a really centralized organization. There's, like I think, twenty two hundred branches across the United States a lot of different branches clean up with theirs. They see step four member board
it's amazing that they get anything done, but that that huge that that large board big a lot of control over the individual branches like apparently, if you're a branch, if you, go out and join like a march. You know against the death of George Floyd or against police brutality, or something like that you want to get into the streets. You have to get permission and from the end of lacy, P, board first and then It is aging, is well and there's a lot of criticism about it, being slow, moving about being out of touch about it being way to blow the bureaucracy to have a big impact like it needs to have on the immediate lives of of black people and people of color in general today. So there huge transition at the end of a lazy p is undergoing right now, I don't did they have found their way, but they seem to be rather aware that they do need to find their way again, because an organisation that depends largely on membership dues and if people think you're relevant
don't even realize you're still around they're, not going the joint and give you membership dues and it's going to make it harder to actually get anything done. Do any to say. Please you just Clark Streamline get rid of that red tape. Just Clark, twenty twenty three instead of like that. Next long, I guys, like peace sign for victory thing. I mean a somehow replace my fingers with all thumb. There can be no rule of every I love it. Twenty eleven in Dublin, CP really kind of formalised their march into the twenty first century, a guess about eleven years too late, not too late, but up calendar wise, and they said that their focus were what they call the six game changers which right now are economics, sustainability, education, health, public safety and criminal justice, voting rights and political representation and youth and young adults
engagement and there still at these days you can see them protesting. Litigating lobbying might be over confederate statues in public squares. It might be in the warm of doing you sit in an office of former attorney General Jeff sessions. It might be. You know, reaching out to black lives matter in and people who are part of that organization to see how they can work together. There there try they're doing their best. I think now. but a half a million members, twenty nine million dollars as an organization. And what did you say it's more than two thousand branches? Yet which is that's a big lumbering organization? You know it is I'm one of the other problems I saw that they were running into. Is that, like us, they were kind of victims of their own success when you're agitating for life station when the legislation gets pass? What do you do? Necks and one
other than doubly Cps credited force, paving the way for African America office holders, and I was reading some from one Williams, who, I guess, conservative. Now he defected from MP are overdue Fox years and years ago, but he was saying that the irony of the election Obama and Other black office holders is that it, makes the end w c p seem less relevant, because then people say: okay, we, you know the annual Blasi p got these these guys into power. Now week we can rely on them to make the changes that the end Blasi P has been trying to make, and so it's kind of like gathers there. There. There, they ve achieved the changes that they wanted to, but now they have to figure out. Ok, what what's left, what what what else needs to be, focused on, and how do we change that, following the course that we ve plotted in the organization that, with we ve structure for ourselves
These can be really interesting to see what the end ablaze hippy does over the nice like ten or twenty years. I think this exchange dangers is a pretty good foundation. I agree: so his odd underbelly cp were glad there. live in a world that their around, although were sad that we live in a world where there needed in a loud voice to say it. I just next door to locate was since choices laughed like that, I think everybody central listener mail. This is from a six year old in if you want to get on with your mail. Just be six, that's my eyes just check. My name is Christopher, I'm six years old and from Toronto Ontario,
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