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stuff. You should know a production of Iheart Radio call will renew the podcast, I'm Josh Clark and those Charles W thrills Brian there's Jerry rolling birthright plumage is thinking me in the face right now, and this is therefore a great part in this institution. About parents which is a surprisingly interesting topic, Chuck NICE one nice pick that's good to eat Do the whole time we're gonna we're going to hammer out like a means of communication. Just with that sound throughout this episode, gay men maybe get a great dirty broke care. Just now. I think TAT Relief of every single person. Listening to so you are surprised, her
I mean, I know parents or need or whatever, but I I and I knew that they were probably one of the smartest thing, walls or some of them are some are just you know, Damas door. Knobs foot, there are plenty that are really smart. They make up for the really dumb ones. I just I'd know. I didn't know that there were quite this. This need, and also what am I Favorite. Things is like watching little happy birds, like hop around and sing there's a lot of parents said: do it's like one of their traits like they're, really cute? kind of animal. I love it. In your mid forties, you returned onto the joy of birds chirping in June Around I didn't say I was turned down by turned on do There is a big difference between those two have you ever had any experience apparent serb, known bird people
no and so tangentially I was you may go, More has had a parrot known. She passes you're, so go by her parent is still alive, I'm a couple brutal and Brutus imprudent was fine but Brutus too, arise. Do me when she was growing up Melick terrorized, her see her for many years and when I was when I visited let her grandma and Brutus Brutus like at first like her home and then, if you could tell the moment, he recognized you me any lunged, adder he's like Yahoo. I remember Are you drivers years he's still just did not like you me for some reason you haven't. I've got some pirates and bird stuff that I'll pepper throughout when its applicable, but em
A bird folks mean fewer bird person. My experience has been bird. People are just sometimes a little eccentric. Oh yeah bird people are definitely a certain tight to slink cat people, Certain type in dog people earn type, but there's a lot of people and not be sure that yeah yeah, I think that's one of the things that makes bird people seem eccentric users far fewer of them, but you know one of the things I didn't realize it could be. That could be also like the extensive stacks of paper back fantasy. Now was that a different line and floors throughout their how's that two year. One of the things I didn't realises that birds are the fourth fourth most popular pet, the United States, which makes sense think about it. I never really thought about all mine, mine, just stops after dogs, which your number one yet mean dogs, cats. What is it fish and then birds and shrink
expect goods to be somewhere on there. But I think people just love seeing goats and not necessarily owning them, millionaire sure but I think a lot of people who own birds come especially parents come feel the same way after they ve bought apparent as will see yet so should we dig into this thing, I thought we already have So there are a lot of different kinds of pirates we are, I mean there are close to four hundred species of the order, and I looked up in a couple of places: citizens for me. Where did you get I thought you you say citizens, but yeah. That's that I would have said it. Ok
and we're talkin. Like you know, if you think of a pair, you probably think of like oh, it's a Mccall run african gray, but if you ve seen parakeets or a Laura keyed herb cock a deal or cockatoo, those are all appearances Yes or love birds as welders, there's a lot of different kinds of birds that her parents and dumb summit? Just don't even really look like you're like now. It's an eagle or, I think that's the kind of vultures where there are very there are really very order they all have in common a couple of things that will see, one of which is a short beak, that's curved, usually, which is very, very powerful, and then they also have a certain kind of toe arrangement called Zagat. Actual toe arrangements, talk more about knowledge. But other than that they are really kind of. Very like I was saying in size and shape in color and even down to some kinds of species, the
can be varied among the male and female somewhat. So I think there is one I can't remember when it was, but it was a kind of a parent, smallish parent where the males and females so totally different, color why's that they were thought to be different species. For a very long time, that's right. That's the Solomon Islands electors thank you show off. They think so you know Mikey said a very incise. There are some that are so big like the cocoa in New Zealand? That can be like a seven pounder? Did you see me videos in those gas their great there, even fly there so big? No, they don't they don't leave they they bound along yeah. Their wings and do they don't work for fine, but they use for stability cause they mostly com trees, but there are other ground dwelling, they look like little fir her feathery mammals. Basically sort of I don't know why that has been a Disney character. Yet I don't either
They also seem to be very sweet. I saw some Zealand, like a guess, researchers who were tracking them- and I don't even think they put this one copeau underwear, took a blood sample. Yours is laying in their lap, and I think it was her leg- is basically Yet just hang out, you know like go ahead. Just take the blood in me. Let me go again so their super super chill, but yeah they would make a perfect Disney character for sure Yes, those are the big daddy's. There are ones for new guinea that are just as winches way less than an hour. I think the Hyacinth MECCA is generally the biggest just in size. They can be three and a half feet long. They can forfeit wings answer and I think that the kind of trademark characteristic when you think appearance there were the vibrant colors Some are like the gray afghan gray is mainly just great
as a little better read, but when you think a parity think of those really brightly coloured. Blues and greens and reds and the rosy cheeks and stuff like that, your words and I mean obviously reason. My parents have very bright colors is to attract mates like that. Basically, the reason for any thing to have a bright color unless it's showing that is poisonous and as far as well ever found. Parents are not poisonous, but one of this special tell me what you think her hate, thereby dawn the first of these is the imperatives apparently not found in other birds. The shock is that those pigments have antibacterial properties, which I guess, keep them from, like wing rod or something like that year. There are some there, so I think it's called the city cove boy here we go cynical solvents
Are those pigments in their found? Only in pair answered aren't even any other birds have these, but I mean other birds have colors, but they don't have that specific kind. Antibacterial agent, color pigment right, that's right You mentioned the toes. That is a you know, with things like ours and woodpeckers, and I think there are some other birds that have these zayigo DEC two feet, but their means they have the usual toes, but most birds have three in one arrangement like three upright one in the back right in this case they have to affront to the back. So Julia help us put this together and she basically points out that, like this means they have two sets of a possible farms. So that's why they're really good? I'm errors and they can hold on to a branch like it's. You know till the sun comes up. Dead by dawn style, is very good
have. You ever seen a parrot work and not a seed or somethin with the combination of the beak in those four toes, it's pretty pretty DEC dress yeah. That's also again how those cock opposed can climb trees without any ability to fly. They I mean they can maneuver. They can hang, I believe, there's an upside down hanging type of parent, which I'm not sure why it hangs upside down, maybe just to show off that it has a good at all. Those Mammy, but they can do allow those things in yeah in combination with their beak. There. There really work in it. Parenting beak as well, that sharp short curved beak that they're all parents have is extremely powerful argued. They they move independently one another lower beacon upper beak. So it can exert a lot of force and in that
helps out because a lot of their food or like really hard nuts and seeds and things like that, but they there nothing in the face of a pair of parents. Beak its if you ve ever been chopped down on by a parrot. It's rough yeah we'll take a chunk askin out, where they were? When I worked in Arizona that restaurant Numa, Juliet is Patio CAFE, Door CAFE and they had the owner. Julia had parrots- and I think you're, like five of them just kind of behind where you eat on these stands, not even caged, and They were mean the snakes to her, they were, but if you are her and you went up and you were like. Oh, let me give you a little your scratch. One of those things could just quiet little head around and chopped down and your finger, and it feels like it's a vice
yeah. Well, you lucky as Europe via they could it taking your finger clean off. Probably there there's anecdotal stories there that we were not able to verify, but this is Fifthly, worth mentioning that a large parrot could snap a broomstick with its beak which, if you read it, it's really impressive. When you say that allow you feel very foolish little bits, I mean sure I guess it depends on the broom. It's really all we rotted termite rotted broomstick. Needless to say, it's really Really a lot of force in my finger can vouch for that with Some of the peppering you alluded to Earlier- that's one one kind of pepper who am grain of pepper gotta. I had a bird that'll come up later. I can't wait for their own, so check your thing that, like em, they wooden bite.
Julia Juliana Juliana. Do it because she was part of their flock, as will see, and it turns out there Some parents get along with other species of parents and even other species of birds and other kinds don't so much so that when you re like a parrot owners guide their basically like if you're gonna get, You know. Other birds do not get this kind. With this kind. An ironic Love birds are famously mean to other species of birds, but if you're in their flocks, you're one of them, and that's one thing that one reason why parrots make such great pets, for so many people is because they imprint humans really well and you're, just a member, their family in their member of your family. That's just the way it is to the parrot. If you're in cider interloper yeah we'll take a finger off like it's a broomstick, so you,
he was never ingratiated herself, I guess not, which is surprising. As everybody knows, you me, you know, I know, like animals flocked to her like a snow white, basically get she's out this land, following around now underway, they came from. It is clear it is the Lamb. He's coming soon. Unfortunately, for the boy will, let's take a little break there then, and we'll come back and talk a little bit about perish in the wind What about a terrorist article, if ever it after all, added a little bit about practical gang is gone. That's about all right on the plane! Everything up my word up jerry support for pod guest and the following message: come from e trade trading isn't for everyone, but IE traders whether its saving for a rainy day or your retirement e trade has you covered. They can help. You check your
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ok, so check. We talking we're going to die about periods in the wild, which is where they used to be more often than not and still are like there's something like three hundred and about three hundred fifty three hundred and sixty known species of power. Its, but a lot of them are dying off, really quick as we'll talk about, but the thing about words were learning. Is that there really resilient like they can adapt and find homes homes for themselves, a new climate. So we'll find them typically in their preferred area around the tropics, around the equator. Typically in the southern hemisphere, also going to find him like living up in mountain ranges, high up on rocky out crops.
You'll find them in Chicago's Hyde Park? There's a bunch of Connecticut they're kind of all the place, even though no native species from the United States are still around. There is still plenty of like wild Fierro parrots that live out in the EU. Yeah. When I was in Australia, we had a couple of down days, and you know my buddy Scotty forefront. Scotty came over to join us and we he's gotta and I went down the wine countries south of Sulphur Melbourne, which is to some those beautiful blonde, ever seen in my life, and we were at a wine winery, overlooking this huge vineyard and then like the sword. Woodland jungle and I saw these huge white. Words flying around down there and we were there
people there. We are their analyses, and so everywhere we went where the only two people cannot tasting, and so we get up to hang out with the the wine makers which a school right and they said, there's a Coquette is at stake. I was just a native American. I added I didn't know they just flew around Australia like that, and I suggest you know who's like they saw in stores were a lot of money in the United States, and I said it's just crazy to me that there are just fine, yeah. Apparently there was a time not terribly long ago, where you could see beautiful, green cockatoo use or parakeets sorry flying around the United States until we drove them to extinction about a hundred or so years ago. Yet Carolina wanted their North Carolina Piercy their Carolina parakeet. Yet it was just a gorgeous green, beautiful parakeet. That was
native to the United States, and I saw something so you know: passenger pigeons were also famously driven to extinction. The last Carolina Parakeet died in the same age, that the last passenger pigeon Martha died in Cincinnati, Zoo, Cincinnati. Had the honour of keeping captive the last passenger pigeon, Carolina parity and killing them. There, the ones you keep her, who is in charge of strangling the last one, is to give overall because they couldn't Kenny's aunt attention any liable in a daily get it over. I've got a joke. That is so I'm not gonna tell is owed upset bird lubbers and tell me later I'll tell you later So these parents, they mainly salmon trees. Obviously they do come down if they are going to drink something and sometimes if they need to find something to eat, they can't get it up there.
And they generally do this kind of follow. The humans patterns of cannon hanging out do in the sector in the day and sleeping at night unless you're a cock, a poem night parrot- and they are not journal, which is, I think this is the only two of the species would need about those cock oppose tourism. They a big from being nocturnal the eyes of migrated from the sides of their heads toward the front of their face and they ve developed. This and of puffy feathers around their eyes. So there also known as the owl parrot, because if certain decanter resemble the owl and the owls typically nocturnal as well, are you gonna get a couple? I think I might actually there's only a hundred and fifty laughing. I can probably be arrested at the very is there any idea of it, a shot, so they are omnivores in and they will generally eat seeds and nuts in plants and fruits and things and insects, but if they need
he now appeared. Gonna do it appears gonna do this is crazy, and this is near. This can cause problems. I think the afghan breakin feast on corn, which has caused problems with corn crops using any part in this, when this is the crazy part in the can, amid eighteen, hundreds in New Zealand Keys, K, K, E S were discovered to be, and this is sort of horrifying eating sheep and attacking sheep in the middle of the night. Yes, I guess it was in the middle. The night is they're, not they're, not nocturnal, but in my mind, the horror movie in its happens in the middle of the night. To me, the most the link, the middle, The day makes things even more horrific shortcomings are bad. Things aren't supposed to happen. Military was to happen at night in the woods you know I point not not in the middle of a field in the day. So seeing some parrots attack and eat a sheep the middle of the day. It's bad news, but those things actually
they look a lot like eagles, more so than parents to me, so you give him a pass. Yeah, that's What I think is eighty I'd like to see them all: try to carry off the sheep together with teamwork and oh, but I don't think that's how it goes. Well, there's your cartoon! That's a gazelle cartoon. I think they ve, I think they put a pair. Repellent on that, because you know big back in the day just kill em all in let God sort amount that I have had to the Carolina, Parakeet yeah exactly but David. Eventually they were like. We can't just kill these keys, we're a more evolves! You now humankind at this point and we gotta stop the stuff. We get a protect them, so they look for is there to keep from having to do that, and one of them is that parrot repellent on the chiefs bellies, which this problem Like that studies, we tried it on your fingernails to keep from biting pasted coat. My fingers in the pages flather sheep
bellying call it a day yet very bitter One thing I did want to either when you're talking about their range and they can end up and we are places I remember when we would do commercial sheets in Pasadena, California, and then we would have the lucky Parrot location, which is based anywhere in passing on any given day. Be near a bunch of parrots, making a ton of noise in the Yes, you! U, nowadays with sound lying riot, you can't pay them. To turn off his blower, whereas lawnmower that guy near, but you can't yeah. I want two hundred It really would be free range, the crab services table, but yet, those Pasadena parents, they have disrupted many of whom you so yeah, so you're like we'll wait a minute, there's not native parrots in the United States. However, a bunch of parents in the trees in Pasadena, well, People- let
parents go or people lie in their parents escape or what have you and like? I was saying before its there really resilient and once they start forming breeding pairs, even though they have like a really low reproduction rate as well seen a second they. Yet they can. They can serve They can make new nieces for themselves, which is pretty cool but they're. All there there's a lot in Florida, Texas in India, California, I think every kind of species that has a population is supported in all three of those states right in the Connecticut. One is just a that's a very weird thing: Yang Chicago's Hyde Park, two, it's like new roof caves in on people's houses in the winter in Chicago, there's so much snow and it's so cold like how're Paris surviving, but apparently they do it's crazy.
So they live in this is this is pretty great. This is where stuff you should know things intersect, our love of collections and groupings. Animals nouns of assemblage. Pandemonium of parents is what it's called for. Good reason like has said because they are super noisy can be aggravating in large numbers when they're out in the wild and they lived together. They help each other out the sea with each other. They look out for each other. They keep track of each other and they communicate with each other. All those squawks and screams here when a bunch of pandemonium is gathered. Is them talking each other and they might be saying you know film crew. Or they might be saying snake or monkey like look out yet I also have the impression from spending hours and hours of watching beautiful parents of all types seeing and be happy that that they're, just basically sharing how their feeling at any given point sometimes too, and that allotted
it's real positive in other times how great things are beautiful the day as could be anthropomorphized, but it really really seems that way. You have just seem like kind of a happy happy type of animal like I wanna buy, ended at too I'm with you just go ahead. It's like prove me wrong I'll. Give you ten years in a ten year span all enjoy these parrots for what I think they're doing I I mean we all after you mean early on and now she's got that lamb following around, like miracles, can happen. We have to get some of that that nail biting stuff this latter on the lambs bellying Caser bananas into some keys so they made, and they have little babies, they are generally monogamous and- males and females work together to raise the kid and care for the little baby from the moment that it's an egg and they will
sit on it for eighteen, thirty days and even take turns think the mom usually does most. The sitting while the male goes out and get some food, but the male can also be like mad at you. Aren't you stretch Let me raise your toes. You get another time yet, exactly so we are both for the most part, the male gets the food or something like that, but the law Birds also like famously monogamous and they summit so that when their separated when a breeding per separated when their brought back together, the all first of all thirty like lose energy and get real depressed and sad and then, when they brought back to young, they refer their bond by feeding one another with their beats very cute. In that sweet yeah, I cannot have everything for love. Bird sellers super cute and pretty in so here You know it. Birds are not monogamous, which once casual experts, raw bluebirds, yet but good for them
so sure they're just out there doing their thing, not hurt anybody as long as they're up front about what their and therefore you know rob low this from his scandal. From like. Thirty. Five years ago now, I just think of raw blows life being difficult to pin down, and you know I love in life Heaven having a good time to do this thing. That's what he's really work to change that over the past three decades really has now with me, but I recognise what he's been trying to do. Ok, with Aria rambler? Why The data myself, because I would say a good third of our listeners like cruises raw blow guy It's like Maggie, hogs and wreck. Oh yeah, that's where he was so they might know them. I was gonna say like my magazine, making Fun Spiro Agnew when we were little more like who, who is Spiro Agnew Bright
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just came out on a week when Rob Lowe is hosting Saturday night live, so they did one of those famous like walk and talk shots from West Wing and in the back, Brown. Suddenly, suddenly converts from like the West wing that their walking through another being chased in a black and white movie by a giant like Aguano, so they there's still walking talking about. You know the administration of the president, but there also kind of jogging running away looking behind them at this giant glonass- is really really great stuff. So how many breaks have we taken Charles just one, do you wanna take another one or keep going a little more. I think. Maybe Let's wait, one minute was talk about their intelligence in altruism, and I think that here too, We topics well before we do that. I've got one more thing about the mating, so they actually, when they reproduce they'll delay between like two in a eggs at a time and their incubation pure me really fast like eighteen days, thirty days, but they
so usually only have a couple of chicks survive and they and a lot of time and energy raising their young almost to a human like degree, not not for eighteen years, but for a break for years in some cases, the last spring, the chicks will grow up with the parents. So they actually very low reproductive rights. So it's a big problem when humans come along and yet you know to kill off pair populations because their slow to recover their slow to reproduce so just put them that little LE pen in your hat and smoke it. I just think if anyone right these days so appearances you're smart, like we talked about in other, accompany really great examples of how in how they display this in one is, is they can use tools like they have seen? Parrots use sticks to like scratch. There and stuff like that, and this one is amazing. They found that Cockatoo whose have been observed using sticks,
to draw on logs is part of a courtship sort of meeting which will take us. Nothing. Women are more than a drum sailor. You now. I now have really just every woman alive things, a gem solos, the greatest musical thing you can do, let's use it. When I go to the bathroom too. If truth be told, I mean it's a hats off, but yet scanner whenever down happened much anymore are you not see those, but I'm the one that knocked my socks off Chuck was theirs least: oh, greater vast apparent they he will be a little poles or whatever, to grind up sea shells The mail does this in the mail will eat this issue going to take it into like. Does vanity calcium, rich paste as an offering to a pair of female he's trying to me with resounds gross and weird until you realize Other birds eat calcium, rich shells.
Tewanima whatever timber, to strengthen the shells of their own eggs, but parents are the only known birds to actually use tools to grind the shells up to make them easier to digest, and The males offering it to the woman is like a basically like cave liquor. How well on taking care of you and our kid. I'm regurgitating. Shells for you that I'm grinding of that's astounding tool- use like you just do not see that elsewhere, except in, like maybe primates, they're. Well I mean, if you wanna talk about cool there. Altruism is something that you know you much in the animal kingdom at all very few nonhuman species, show this trade and no birds before just a couple years ago, we're even on this list. They even tested crows out listener super smarten, I think in twenty fifteen, and they gave them tourism tests in there. I know you guys failed the test, but they did this, and this was
from just January of last year in biology, ironically, think just a couple of months before the grown up, Failing that, I have anything to talk about the smug, exactly you're doing them. Orton Work and they did This exercise where they got these birds together these pirates. And they put him in pairs and they basically put a wall between them with a whole, then they were separate it in one of them had a token and one of them had that you would trade for food, but one of them, then one of them had the food and one of them had the token. So these birds, little figured out how to work together to exchange like here. You take this token cause. You ve got the food feed yours but remember me if the rules are ever reverse right, which is a totally different thing. It's reciprocity. So these these Mc Cause showed that
Was it the african gray, think African grazed when it pass yeah there typically known as like, possibly the smartest birds of all time, but the leg, In addition to thy queuing up. Have this have the like? Take this token and get yourself some food, even though not getting anything back when the when the rolls were reversed. The birds would do the same, thanks, so they would get their turn basically later on, and social value of, altruism and reciprocity tool use there. Also famous for mimicry to which a lot of birds can mimic sounds a video of a minor bird in the wild. I guess being filmed with a cat. As well as a video camera, because it may it inexact sound of a digital camera. Taking a picture. It was an astounding it sounded like they the sound of a camera over this bird, a wonder about that. On some of these videos. This is, I mean, I hope, was legit. I mean it was it looked like a legit wildlife, video clip from one, but a lot of
can do that. But the thing is other birds can't do what parents can do is their mimicry as a whole different level compared to other birds and their basically only bird we know of that can mimic a human voice. I think that's a great place for cliffhanger right sure very will come back and will talk more mimicry right after this one. A lot about it. I was on a little bit about getting is gone, that's the less about him, so they can have all right on the plane remaining a word of Jerry. Everybody. We want to tell you about an audio exclusive experience brought to you by James Patterson inaudible. It's called the call this case. It's a new black book, audio drama available only on audible, what it is as a pretext to Patterson Number one New York Times best seller, the black book.
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all right, so we're back and we're talking about? words vocalize in mimicking things, they have voices that very by region which is really need. They have different dialects. Basically, and if a pair move to a new area where they have a different kind of dialect. They will adjust. You know what Julia refers to as their accents to fit in, which is really really amazing. Yet is amazing, apparent I was reading up on a study about that Chuck and they found that boy. Their lives like these dialects will become the regional but some regions, but up against one another. So if you're in a nest that is adjacent, the two regions, though kind of use it go back and forth and they found like the differences in the basic structure of the calls or different enough that that their dialectic
but then, within these nests there's different variations, slighter vote. Nations within the dialect, so like they're, they're communicating in two really astounding degrees and like I was saying that in a pair in particular the only one smart enough to mimic humans and one The reason is that they do. This is their able to manipulate their tongue, which is one of the things that we do to produce speech so they're, not just. Their natures mimicking sound like there actually forming words very similarly to how humans do. They are also capable of hitting all like pitches, lower pitches that are more in step with how Hume a human voice sounds so it sounds more like human that their mimicking, but then also seem to have an additional layer. Their brain and the region of their brain that they used to to mimic
other animals. Dont have the other birds don't have, which implies that they're just smart enough to do this to yes, so I had hospital? Oh I'm, going to happen. Everybody Attica deal when I was a kid I was like. I mean if you like. We had this bird for a few years, but I was definitely in it. You know ten eleven twelve year old range and Our little grey cocktail was named Dolly and I you know knew that you could teach cocktails to say things so I was brother- and I were all over this- you know no one else in the family really cared, but we got a record to teach us how to do this and it involves tons and tons of repetition. You can't just go to a burden, teach it to say something a couple: I'm not do it requires a lot of repetition in so we by the end, Dolly could say hello and allowed Ali in dollars. Do the wolf was all like. I am like when someone walked in the room I get.
Dolly learn to do the charged and limit than air, and then the I was most proud of, is I taught Dolly to do the republic like a jungle, Bird Macao and it was favorite thing that, though it could do so. Would sit on my shoulder and I cannot nibbled at my ear loaves and watch tv and stuff and pick my hair, and that was sort of the extent of it. It was a tremendous mass, then you know where I guess we go and talk about that. If you have a bird, its feathers and poop and see
aids everywhere gear. What because, when you have a parent you're supposed to give it a lot of time outside of the cage which will we'll talk a little more extensively about that? But yes, there, a big mess for sure, but Dolly learning to talk was one of the cruellest things they did as a kid and people love to hear parents say things they if you go and type parrot into Youtube's. The third thing that comes down as the next offering is parrots cursing, because it's just funny people want to see a parrot tells What did you know buzz off me, a buzz off if you're lucky, if they haven't lived in a frat house for a few years round? More often than not, they just straight up curse and every once in a while, you ll see us worry about. Some parents had to be moved from like a wild life preserve cause. They were cursing it like the people who came by to see them here who had ever Nanda teaching little kids Batman
nurse, but I mean they're all kinds of videos. It's it's very fine, kids, ask your parents if he can watch parrot talking videos, because some of them curse If there are some funny ones too, with parents and Alex's talking to a lax in I think one of them. There was apparent that the lady the owner went back and ordered her was checking on things that were ordered kisses air would order Slovenia and the terror kept trying to order. A fart illegal work and muddling. I dont nodes, Emmy G2 said: what's on the shopping list like Zed birdseed fart that's pretty great! I want to know what Alexa with would imagine that to be. Well, I mean it. I think. If you say to Burma, I'll. Do it right. I don't know. I've tried that, but I'm going to ride after this he really have. No. I haven't very brought some forty four years old and I ve never try there
Well, I'm almost with these you'll come back a rounded think. It's funny again, you know it's funny check. You have mastered one of the. I think, sixty things that the common sutra says every person should master before they die in that is to train apparent to talk is one now many, as in the council, yeah? I had no idea run across them, so we can talk about parents and, in this way, talk about parent intelligence and not talk about Alex the Parrot which who we have talked about before he showed up in our house: zero works episode, because As far as anyone knows the. I think, if not the only bird possibly the only other non human animal whose demonstrated a grasp of the concept of zero. That's a really weird concept that that most nonhuman,
can't grasp possibly any other non humans can grasp Alex, could which can it goes to show you what a smart pair he was. Yeah, I think they figured in the end, Alex was about a smart, is a five year old person and not from like depth. Capillary Alex, knew about a hundred words. Witches sounds like a lot. I'm here to die away, but I think that the Guinness record is appear. Keaton, name puck, who learned about seventeen hundred words and change. So a hundred is good, but Alex could understand. Concepts like bigger in smaller and seem indifferent here and would make up his own word carbonate. And like I think, the first I'm Alex a cake Alex called it yummy. Bread right, which is really pretty astounding income, may become a scary. He supposedly is the first animal to ask, an existential question which he saw himself in the mere, and he asked what color
so his his handler researcher, Irene Pepper Burg, who wrote many many papers from the seventies to there the two thousands about Alex name. It turns out is an acronym for avian language experiment we'll send by that. You know it to the road whose name is like an acronym for science e dehumanizing by Alex, Could he asked like what color and they took it to like he was asking about himself like you, he recognized himself in the mirror, and apparently parents frequently talk about themselves and third person like that that parents, that Parakeet puck Ricky Anderson Health, right right who held the the record for the most words he talked about himself in third person, and apparently he once said it's Christmas
and then he was happy about it. Being Christmas impact loved everybody, that's great yeah, but I mean that's like that's pretty intelligent if this pair it understands. That it's Christmas day in everybody's had already loves everybody. It, sir. I am just impressed with parents, in addition to being cute, they also have brains, brains and looks this right, so I think we gotta at least talk about the notion of pirates having parrots. It is now necessarily just a movie trope or a book trope from nature. It makes sense and away they may have wanted when they're out at sea some companionship. Having a dog or a cat her own go to. I am following you around on a ship- is in a great idea like a bird gonna, make sense and they could eat the hardtack in the crackers and and sit on the Roman. It makes sense to have birds. They were, they were
we're going places where they might have been like. I don't know, any hard evidence, but nothing about it seems, There's no way that could have been true, no what I saw that that that's possibly the case, but that the age of discovery was the second time that Europe fell in love with parents as pets. In that initial trend started when Alexander the Great invaded India and took some parrots back to Greece them in these ended up spreading to Europe and actually exam dream pair- is named after Alexander the great cause. It's patently one of the ones that he he brought back with them, and then Paris, I guess, fell. Fashion and then when people started like Brazil, and in coming back from Brazil, they they came back with parents on their shoulders and the trend started again. I love it. I did mention that they were there, not the easiest.
To take care of their messy, they are demanding their pretty needy. They need lots of attention if they dont get it, they can be kind of disruptive and destructive. Trying to talk anyone out of getting a bird, but it's a lot too. It's a bite off. If you ve never had one, oh yeah yeah. I know it's I mean like even even more of the commission. I would think then say like getting a dog, not just because of the north the amount of attention that they need from you the really long live to lay it that's the deal much longer live than than a dog or a cat like bike. In in the wild parrots typical, live, maybe thirty years I think the they cut the Coca COLA Cup lives, possibly ninety years in the wild, but in captivity parents. Really live for a long time. Forty fifty sixty years, There is a major Mitchell's cockatoo named cookie. That's the oldest living
documented parrot in captivity. He loved to eighty three I think, yeah, like you, you often see parrots and people's wills because you have to pass along the somebody and yeah, but for the life of me, I know I don't know what happened to Dolly. We had Dolly for a few years. This is, can one of the things when your kid sometimes yet, pets just go away and Europeans are like there farm now, delay Dolly who stop asking questions to start ever speak of Dolly again now we may have gotten out, I don't know, but, That happens I mean they they escape. Sometimes I mean you mean Grandma's Parrot, Bab outlived her and they went to live with one of her friends who keeps bird so area yeah, I mean like they're, really long live pets, but pardon reason why they think that there are or why they know, there are fearful parrot poppy, since around the United States, is because people, but people just let him go like
I had no idea what I was getting into just five free parrot. I am sorry that we ever met, take flushing that baby python down the toilet a little bit a lot, but it actually, but the thing is, is it's kind of so it's it's good. On the one hand, that that, just as in automatically like kill the parrot that they can actually they might find like at a local population that they can join, they might find another one and started local population as a breeding pair. It's not like a death sentence. Apparently he should never. You notice release your pet into the wildest. That's too bad you, but if you do with the parrot, it's not it's, not a death this is what I am saying that one of the bigger problems of that is that you have still place to demand on the bird market. Yes and the bird market is not like there's not some nice family in you know the central rural part of your state, that breeds parents and that's where all the parents come from
the parents that you git typically have been stolen from a nest in Brazil and brought to the United States. I saw something like hundred thousand parent chicks a year are removed from nests to feed the demand of the the exotic bird market and a lot of unknown survive. They die on the way and, as I was saying, but or the reproductive rate of parents is low enough that once you get enough chicks removed from their native habitats. They're not getting replaced fast enough in that leads to a collapse of the population, and it can mean extinction. If that happens across a large enough range, yeah they're plenty countries, including the United States, that have done pass legislation to try and put a dent in like this importing and poaching and stuff, but at the beginning of this year. There was a study in global change, biology that said it. A third appeared. Species are threatened with extinction.
A hundred and seventy one of the species are near, threatened or critically endangered. The Kok report that you talked about. You mention that other owing like a hundred and fifty those Lapierre, you really don't want to talk about a go extinct. Luckily, there are new in New Zealand and New Zealand loves nature, so there in a good spot, the others true good point there. Are they trying to breed them? At least I think protecting the heck out of them in their this leaving underbred amongst themselves. They live on three isolated remote islands. They dont have any introduced predators, so they there there there in a precarious place, but they're about his go to places. They could be further precarious state. Therein, yeah and, as you know, it's not just people poaching its humans encroaching The developments in you know less and less natural habitat is obviously in other repercussions of climate change. When things like the australian wildfires break
it's a reduction of habitat and poaching, that's gonna, put up a real dent in the pair population yeah so they're saying. Well, you know there, so they ve actually identified some hot spots of pair biodiversity around the world. That said, like: ok, if these places of the governments in these places, like a move to protect parents, parents are gonna, be ok so like the northeastern Andy's, the Atlantic, forests that stretches from zeal inland in Argentina and Paraguay. If these places can can protect the parrots, their parents should be fine and so hopefully they well and then on the subject, inside. If Europe and Japan Walk get over their love of parrots or figure at a different way to get It's a more sustainable way than that would have a big effect to are they to the biggest offenders from what I saw yeah because there act and ninety nine to the. U S past cut poaching in half from what I could tell
it was like a really big had a big impact, but Europe and Japan is continued on without that kind of legislation. I think it's great, while not great for the great for us up with parents, everybody and if you want to get a little pop of joy out of your day. Watch this one minute, video called bird sings in synchrony with piano, incredible cute, three exclamation point nine credibly cute, it is one of the swedish things. I've seen in awhile and you'll be like Josh's right, bearskin, just be happy little souls or birds cursing the twenty about anything else, nothing else. Words. Parents, everybody like us. They go out some pair videos and, in the meantime, it's time for listen. We call this plugging another podcast soon ice. We don't often do this in its not from
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