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yes, one. Seventy almost seventy five years on the sad is a big one. Yeah everything about this was really but in basically all the wrong ways right. We're gonna talk today about a disaster called the Texas City explosion and, sadly, you might say which one because there's been multiple me of explosions in Texas City. One of the reasons. Why is because Texas City is, made a name for itself as one of the premier petrochemical ports in the United States and indeed sadly the world. I think he was up until war. War, too, is like the fourth largest port in Texas, but I think since world WAR two its grown even more for a little while their bp, refinery that was its most profitable. refinery in the world, which really say

some of them, you that's a big deal, be peace, an enormous company with multiple refinery. So you know for the biggest the most profitable one to be in Texas City can put takes the city on the map in some circles. Yes, it's a city is above the Gulf of Mexico, and, like you said it's a port town, founded in the late eighteen, hundreds by some Minnesota hunters, He said you know what I think we can set up shop here, think can dig up a canal set up a realigned. You got some really deep water and we could be a good shipping I want to know how in like what we're conversation led to that like we're who went. Hunting trip ends up in you, basically building a port town in a city. That's about his far away, from your home as you can get in the same country I mean there are some real going I guess so: they couldn't my lads and kill animals of God,

so that's what happened to tax the city. I mean that's where I was gonna founded and it was a. Like think refineries, think warehouses and chemical plants we were too comes around military, of course, as well, will be sort of controlling this area for awhile, because it's pretty valuable port for us, we're gonna ship munitions in and out of here What's he comes and goes and then after the war about a year and have after the war, it is by civilians again and I wished to say it was a little more of a role, seen than it was when the military was running, the show whether the military ran like a tight ship, basically and every year what you did the big difference between when the military's running a port and when a ports run by just to a whole bunch of different private companies do not say and in a soda hunters exactly so that's it

with some Lucy Goosey plants or anything like that, which is comparatively speaking. I am one of the one of the other things that takes a city had going against it on the morning of April, sixteenth nineteen, forty seven is it there, were really a lot of stand. In regulations for handling chemicals, and though we didn't have an enormous grasping just how chemicals worked at that time, and so all of this ugly things kind of came to other this kind of slightly lacks oversight and just kind of black, much more relaxed attitude toward cargo. And then a lack of awareness about just what kind of dangers different cargoes posed is gonna, set things up, fer to take a bad turn, yes, so on the morning of April, sixteen there were three ships docked in the port. There was most, notably the S S grand camp, which was

there is a military ship at one point, but I think we got to France is like a sorry. Europe is kind of destroyed. When you take the ship and just use it for whatever you want to do, and it was converted to a cargo ship which is which on the day of April sixteenth and it was beside the ss I flyer in that beside the third one named after somebody. What was at once the robber, keen yeah keen. Oh, wait a minute. which one was it well, it was the Wilson BT and even better right, the Billy keenest. Called again. I believe, all three of those were liberty, ships right, yeah what they were were to ships and they were, I think, to assess high fire was being fixed at the time, but was still loaded down with stuff, as was the grand camp and well sort of detail.

What was in the cargo, because it's all very, very key yeah. It's really important so further five days leading up to April sixteenth, Steve Doors. I think that's how you say it, but basically doc hands you, wouldn't you say docking and you know, but did stevedores thumb mean. I hope I'm saying that correctly They had loaded up the grand camp with twenty three hundred tons of ammonium nitrate, fertilizer and these were in one hundred pound paper, sacks akin to the kind of sex that you buy like Portland cement in these days, right, yeah there are some other cargo Sicel twine, peanuts. Others machinery. There are some cotton. There is sixteen cases of ammunition, like first small arms ammunition, but for the most, it was a lot of ammonium nitrate in the same way for there s,

hi fire to which, as you said, was in the next birth. It was loaded with a thousand tonnes of millennium nitrate and then also very crucially, two thousand tonnes of sulphur and all these were also in those same hundred pound paper bags. So, at the time like, I was sick people didn't realize like this is this? Is it there's a big deal that there is that much ammonium nitrate just sitting around in this port at that time, yet It say it's a crystal like solid, its white a lot of times is used for nitrogen for agricultural fertilizer, but You combine it with fuel oils, it can be very explosive actually used for that for like mining and construction and stuff like that. But it's not like do you know if you tap, that cited the bag? It's gonna explode. It's pretty safe is on is on the up and up in its being stored properly, but if it starts to

bad moisture. Then it's sort of way Portland cement again it gig is just gonna hardened to a block right. And then, if that thing is in a solid block, it's gonna be a little bit more volatile and a little bit more dangerous. If ignited yeah, I mean like it's not even considered flammable. As far as I know, and certainly in nineteen forty seven, it was considered flammable because if you walked up to some of this, this ammonium nitrate, these pellets just how the lighter to him. They wouldn't catch fire. That's not really! they do what they do. Is they oxidize things? They basically create free radicals like we talked about in the free radical episode which sets off like a chain reaction and because they oxidizing vague concept, condensing produce, basically oxygen, where it was an otherwise present when, when that that is combined with the fire, it makes a big time fire. So that's bad enough right, like if

said them off like it all. It all combat serious health, something else combust more efficiently and more more, at a higher temperature. But the problem, the big problem with ammonium nitrate is. There is a point where it can reach a high enough heat that it itself decays in degrades and when that happens, it split into two gases: nitrous oxide in water vapor, which you like. Well, that's that's great skins and produce high offer one and the other ones little more, maybe so maybe so in small amounts by it what happens in a large enough amount, especially when this ammonium nitrate is in one big, melted block of the chain reaction can happen much more efficiently and when those gases are are produced when the when the thing decays in separate, expand really quickly and that produces an explosion

and the forces the the energy that's released from an explosion of ammonium nitrate, decaying in converting into nitrous oxide water vapor is monumental like compared to atomic bomb blasts. Basically, if you have enough of it, say twenty three hundred tonnes in a thousand tonnes in a couple of ships sitting import, very that's a great place for cliffhanger, I think we'll be right back after this we all

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I saw this stuff. The cargo arrived by train to take the city in it. Probably already heating up a little bit on this train, then maybe. Eddie getting to the point where it was a little and about unstable but volatile, at least and the gets transferred to the ship. It continues to sort of heat up and the crew when everything like you said there was a lot of awareness about tell kind of anything, Is it the time so to them? It was just another the cargo hold they might have said. Like you know you be careful with history. Eyes, or maybe not even matter, but they do definitely didn't know like he'd bad for this stuff yeah. They said you and me to books from lunches, David, there alone is that so eight a m in the morning these workers, they are started, noticing that there was smoking vapours coming. The ship,

so there was some kind of a fire going on. No one knew how it started or what happened? There are some, people and don't leave his cigarette I was not in the it could have been. There wasn't any official report which also wouldn't be rising more. What I saw it later on shook the the fact that these things were in those paper sacks If they were heating up, they were just going continue to heat up being pack tightly in the whole of this unventilated ship there, he's. Gonna get warm and warmer and its possible they that the ammonium nitrate caused. The paper sacked Combust catch fire, spread to other paper sex, and then you a positive feedback. Loop words is kept getting of the fire kept getting bigger and bigger, and eventually very important, hotter and hotter so captain sees this happening. There are people kind of pouring in and looking around it. What's going on

then says battened down these hatches good police tarps over him start pumping steam in their, which apparently was a method the time to put out a fire on a ship, when you didn't, want to ruin the cargo as opposed to this. I think, with a fire hose which would cause other stuff to just break up like Portland some men. He starts pumping steam in there and that just start hitting ever know steam is gonna he'd stuff up, so that started in the moisture made add situation a lot worse, really quickly. Yeah I get there. person that had the captain, Seamless Captain Charles the gear Bonn. He had. He made the decision to just go ahead and let the cargo be ruined and have the fire put out with fire. Hoses saw me. I never have happened yet it was a and you I mean I understand he, where you're coming from it and want to ruin the cargo. If you didn't have to because steaming.

How to fire a board. A ship was a an accepted fire fighting technique. It works in it. It could conceivably save a lot of the cargo, so it's not like he just made this, for till a stupid mistake, it's just in hindsight. It was probably decision that led to this catastrophe yet mean think more than anything it's like you said it was the time when there was none deregulation and sort of in the dawning of the chemical agent. People's didn't know, right and plus also at the time Texas, did he had a volunteer fire department which I would guess, wouldn't have quite as much to jurisdiction and can be told by a captain like an hour just go away. I come I'm gonna handle this myself rather than being like now we're going to put the fire out. I re on your ship good point so. The steam is making things worse, it pumped into the holds in everything's heating up everything's getting moist MIKE. We said moist

no good for this stuff, and it did started to convert the solid masses and you know, there's the gas releasing in its building up all this pressure because they had batten down the hatches and covered him with tarps in it boot summit Though that a blue these had covers off at about eight thirty in the morning, it's crazy we're just that It would have been spectacular and I'm sure it was, but when those just blew off all all the smoke that had been kind of stuck in the hold inside the ship started, billowing out and the thing apparent about ammonium nitrate burning is it produces really kind of mesmerizing colored smoke from one of the witnesses. It was apparently salmon, orange and purple tell, and so this more coming out of it started to it people like like onlookers who were like what's going on. I want to go see this giant weird fire That's going on down at the port and something like three hundred people

Pleading entire families, kids from the local schools, came over all sorts of people, disk stop that they are doing and came to watch this weird fire at the port, an apparently key Gee Bc Outer Galveston, which is just ten miles down the coast out in the Gulf of Mexico. they were warning people stay away, but apparently that just alerted more people. That there is something going on who went down to go check it out themselves. Yes, They knew that there was a big problem at this point. They did call the fire fighters in and the tugboat maybe and get the thing out there and at this point, like you, said the heat which is so great that even a fire hoses gonna do much is gonna just vapor rising when it had set out its creators of the massive amounts of heat. And you know this hoping started. Eight at eight. Thirty is when the hatches, blue and then at nine twelve. The thing exploded and we're gonna do

can a list through a pretty horrifying list of of impacts from like distances like as a seismic graph in debt four Colorado picked up this explosion. Yet the indices again in the southernmost part of Texas yeah like they felt it in Louisiana. You know three thousand foot for air bombs in cargo flying up in the air, so yeah, an enormous amount of energy that was talking about that was released by this twenty three hundred tonnes of ammonium nitrate in red. Respect, I think, has been the eyesight compared with two point: seven kiloton blast yeah, which would put this black of this ship blowing up,

somewhere on the order of about one. Third, no I'm sorry, one fifth of the Hiroshima Nuclear Bomb, which is completely level that city. This is about a fifth that size so still really substantial enormous blast and one of the first effects ahead is that it blew this liberty ship this huge war war to air Cargo ship Oak, a thousand feet into the air in multiple pieces just shower out downward as hot metal shrapnel onto these surrounding city That's not accounting for the shrapnel that immediately blue outward, as though gases expand, expanded right into all of those on liquors in the people who are fighting the fire on the port Was it a couple of to turn anchors one of those about a mile and a half away in the air

like we said you could feel it in the way the Anna there was a Monsanto and a union carbide, two different chemical plants can right beside it. They were just flattened, basically just not even there anymore. I saw that one of the warehouses warehouse zero at the port, which is, I think, the one that was closer to the ship. This historian, from Houston. I think said: they're just disappeared like it was gone like it. Wasn't there any longer, like the word disintegrate works in a lot of the instances when you describe what happened to a lot of the structures and people who were around this, this blast well yeah, I mean that's the obvious thing. You know there were hundreds of onlookers. There were people that work there. There were all twenty eight members of the fire department. They were all killed, basically instantly. Anyone within that zone was killed instantly. Some people, like you, said just just now even able to recover, but enough body parts to identify him

at that point here. That proved to be a real problem, so, like first of all, the fact that the end you're fired upon, apparently one there was one server, ever from the fire burned, but he was out of town at the time. That's why he survived the hoof. Department in all their equipment was immediately wiped out, one of them problems was with an explosion like this. In a place like this. Is that it rupture? his lines in pipes and all of those petro chemicals that are being refined, suddenly catch fire said I have these out of control fires in the buildings in structures that are standing and you no longer have a fire department or any fire equipment to put it out for a little while. So the the immediate impact out outside of the blast was also the the fires that were lit were just right after this too well uneven You know you ve got the metal shrapnel, but then you ve also remember. There were peanuts in toys in common and other stuff, so that these are

fireballs being launched basically starting fires all over the place wasn't just in the immediate area and, like you said, has the fire department was then out of commission. That's that's real trouble yet so it took little while for more aid to show up, but apparently this this explosion was so bad. Catastrophe so great. The army, Navy, coastguard, Marines, Texas, National Guard and then fire fighters from surrounding Citys all came out to have man, and this wasn't just like putting this chemical fire out, but also like trying to you know few people from rubble, there's really a law that we could sit here and say, but if you have a computer, fond of you like just look up pictures from the text, a city explosion of nineteen, forty, seven it s just I'm real. What happen to like enormous steel buildings is turned into like twisted metal, and this is

You know the middle of a work day, so there were people trapped all over the place in this debris. So there was a huge rescue operation that had to start, but it was delayed because most of the people who were tasked with that kind of thing had all been killed in the initial blast. Yes, I remember earlier, we said that there were three ships there. This one blows up, and obviously you know it's a full on, like nine eleven seen at this point, with just how chaotic it is, peace are not noticing that right next door, the Ss High flyer so remember, was loaded with this stuff and also with some for which makes it become unstable and thing had been on enlarged. I mean I'm surprised, is just the interior of these ships is the only reason that those weren't just blown to bits to tag

can a right next to it in it, then it was still intact. At least, and was blown from its mornings, oh and drifted over and kind of attached itself to the Wilson begin, which was again in the slip next to it I think there were some crew members on board in there that I guess we're just protected by sixty or idea from what I understand. They were I still during their thing for a little while they were finally because the high fire caught fire as well. They were finally forced out by the smoke, because this is some noxious noxious smoke. This is, it means, isn't just like wood burning smoke. This is really bad chemical smoke that mess you up. It's crazy that these sailor state aboard for an hour there find forced off a ship, but they tell people like hey. This is this is on fire and those like everything The problems we have over here in the house arm into Scott, basically vaporized. So the fight,

was allowed to continue on the high fire for hours hours and hours like that as happened at nine twelve, a m, and it wasn't till the afternoon that somebody else rediscovered the fire aboard the high flyer started to kind of like raised the alarm about this still, this is such a chaotic scene There wasn't anything immediately done about it and it was till eleven p m that they're fine like oh, this is a really. This is a bad. because not only do we have a thousand tonnes tons, of ammonium nitrate aboard the high fire. There's this! for you mentioned Chuck. Unlike you said, it makes even more unstable in that you know how the millennium nitrate oxidize is things yes. Sulphur is like food to that. Stuff is for oxygen the sulphur, just like piling on this oxidizing fuel to the blast, even more energetic, so it would

it would be a really big problem. If the high fire blew up, so they brought in some tugboats in a fire boat. I think from Galveston inserted to try to take it out of the birth. The tug it out see the let it like burn out a blow up or whatever it was going to do. But I guess it was stuck so fast that that they couldn't get it out Yeah, I mean- I guess you know the thing was not, I guess, just the wedged in their from that first explosion, and I think they, on it for a couple of hours. They started at about eleven p m. And then, but it looks by one a m. They had stopped that process in one ten- and this is now in april- D. You know early next morning. The high fire but it is well- and this was even more violence. The only mean it's not a saving

Is it all because everything was already level, but the only reason it didn't cause more death and more destruction, sadly, is because everything was art. Destroyed, and most people were already dead, yeah and plus. Also they knew enough by this time that they needed to clear the area that there wasn't anything they could do. So everybody who is working in the rescue operation was told the leave, so there I decided No, if there were any more deaths from the high flyer blowing up, but the problem was is there any fires that might have been put out were re, lit and other structures that may have been spared from the Initial blast were now levelled or caught fire or both so Ozma the problem that the high fire blew up as well. He had sunk the deck and came to it. Did it sunk it and it was it was I can only imagine to also if you survive that first one to have another glass like that, even when you were away from an you knew was coming, would just do something,

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ok, so shock, one thing that we didn't say was that the the initial explosion by the greying camp created, like fifteen foot, tidal wave that washed inland, and people died almost in creative ways in this disease master in one of those ways was those petrochemical, was, I think, there's a molasses refinery. They started to get mixed in the cap, the petrol. Goes burning in the water when it mixed with them. When this tidal wave blew out when it blew in I'm sorry it was on fire, so it actually call people on fire it a copy. on fire on the way back out to sea and people who survived the initial blast richly swept out in drowned from this too

There were people who died in aeroplanes that had come around a kind of circle. The area blown out of the sky. There were people who I'd in buildings that collapsed. There are people who died from shrapnel out of the sky and killing them, even though they were miles away like their word. There was so much death and destruction that it's really difficult to get across. What happened to poor little port city, the hand on anything, anybody that just suddenly bow Lou up yeah in the end, the official death always close to it, hundred five hundred eighty one people hundredth ten of which were just vaporized no trace was ever found of a hundred and thirteen people casualties- up to five thousand the numbers kind of very but anywhere

thirty five hundred to five thousand- and you know tat- the city was not a very big place- was about sixteen thousand story, so this was just devastating city into the region. It took about a week to put out all these fires and think of food. All month, plus recover. Everybody's. They could recover that point. Either final body was found until MID. May. The there was there were people who were never like you said accounted for there were there were the converse of that was true to their parts of people that were never identified and one of the accounts that I read was like. I was saying written via a thicket university of Houston historian names. Earl Flowers Door Ross

the heat in the journal shifts in history, but she recounts somebody mentioning a woman who was trying to identify her husband who is lost in the disaster and she had to sort through hands, They had a collection of hands that this trying to figure out It's one belonged to her husband and, like this is nuts to hear but if you can even begin to put yourself into that woman shoes, air three Many of the risk of being in their rooms like looking at different hands and then also not just the horror of of that of like having to look through body parts. It may or may not be your husband's, but then this self doubt like is that my husband, like. I don't remember what it looked like. You know like that, just your mom messing with you on top of the horrific experience that you're already undergoing but is one of many, because something like sixty one people, I believe were interred,

without being identified, but there there remains- were kind of assembled and in in put together in a memorial service that was attended by something like thousands of people. I believe so Chuck is so if there was some, thousand people, and that many people were hurt or killed by this blast. You can imagine how quickly this little town was overwhelmed with all these casualties, and so they are getting like every which way trucking over the girl Galveston like getting him wherever they could, wherever hospital he could find, but very quickly, the high school Jim was taken over to serve as a field hospital, shortly after that. The morgue and one of the stories that stuck out to me was the boy scouts were pressed into service to basically help out. However, they could in poor. Little like like teenage in preteen scouts are like working in this makeshift morgue in their high school Jim like imagine the impression that had on them the rest of your life. You know he's, I know

that's crazy, like every aspect of this story is just not it's very said. He and, of course, that the financial loss whose huge about that a hundred million dollars in property last five hundred million in loss petroleum products, in that seven hundred million in three point: five billion today dollars think there is some sort of buried The burnt zero, as is a memorial park, where sixty three fight. Victims are buried yet also saw them up. And there's that Ankara that we talked about on enough? It was the one that actually blew the mile and a half away but it is one of the anchors is is a monument at the park, along with a scarred propeller from fire at the entrance to the port, their taxes, city yeah, so damn that funeral procession that they had. That attracted, I think something like five thousand mourners

was a real like community effort. There were something like fifty plus funeral homes from twenty eight different cities that all participated, and each of these sixty three and I then, if I'd people over there remains, as you say, were put in their own individual, caskets and buried in the memorial park, which is still in a there that the park a seller with the anchor and everything. But it was It's it's a to an enormous, weird catastrophe in just such a devastating thing, especially looking back. Seventy Here's to read about, but we Do you read about if you can just kind of put yourself a mine of what that was like? If you know trying to recover from that, the Ets is astounding that takes a city, did recover a lotta people moved indecisive I'd. Not only like do. I think the city's never gonna come back from this. I don't know if I can come back from this, but the

we actually did come back and they did bill back from what I understand even bigger than before, which is how the BP refinery that hinder blowing up became the most profitable and be peace entire company, because the city bill back even better than before this great. It is greatly not great that it explodes, again in two thousand and five, obviously, but great that they were at the stick to it ness to come back right as a so you know obviously following something like this: there's gonna be a lot more regulation going on. Do you he's going to step up federally and say: hey wait a minute. We really need to take a look at our handling these chemicals. How restoring these things our shipping These things in a lot of changes were made here and around the world, but it's not to say that that completely private this from happening again, because in Beirut just last year in August, twenty twenty, There was another big cargo of ammonium nitrate that

sitting in a warehouse for seven years. It's no one is exactly sure, Wyatt ignited this time, but there was a dock workers that said that there were fireworks stored nearby they did find thousands of kilograms of fireworks recovered from aware at that point in this explosion was you know it was a crater about four hundred and sixty feet wide and in Vienna was about ass, big ass, the Texas City Glass eye. So I saw both I saw that it was about his big, I saw that it was about a half the size biddy. I mean that even I invite so yeah. Go. Look at video of the woods astounding about their Beirut blast is there happens to be people who were filming when it happened, because there was a fire. I remember what happened yet. So you seen that that dyke, that White Cloud That's that water we are expanding right were in the the you can't see it, but there's nitrous oxide gas in there as well. So imagine Weiss that size.

that would probably be about the size of that. First takes a city blasted nineteen, forty seven. Yeah. I mean I remember seeing in on the news, and remember they mention takes a city about them yeah I mean this is that there was to store down there for like seven year, soaking up that that warm can a more mediterranean breach is not the way you should. in store this now and like the story behind his can interesting like that. That was started in Georgia, not our Georgia, but the Republic of Georgia on Wade Andrew to Mozambique in the apparently, the owners will like we're not make enough money on this. This trip so we're gonna diverse. Over two Beirut and pick up some more freight in the crew said now. When I can do is gonna make the weight dangerous, so they balked porphyry Saudi, wrecking up and the owners apparently just decided to abandon the crew, the ship in the cargo, the cargo once it was impounded.

Should have been sold off, but it wasn't instead, it just like you said: sat there stored incorrectly for six years until something caused it to blow up witches, we just the idea that it was just negligence that led to that catastrophe is even worse it. I think that something is missing from the Texas City disaster, There. There was a really any negligent act, maybe a mistake or Abed choice, but no one was particularly negligent about it. So I think that's kind of makes the Beirut last even worse. That people were spoken doing stuff that they didn't do. A lot of people died as a result. Yeah, I think the BP refineries thousand five they had to pay out about. Fifty million through that one They did a year safety audit in that safety audit they found- and this was before the blast. Actually they did

safety audit, and they found that a lot of people that work to this plant it says, came to work with coat in exceptional degree of fear of catastrophic its differences. Yeah incidents in quotas What's the little bit of a ocean nightmare everything that I've read about, that was that there was a direct result of BP cutting safety in favor of higher profit margins. If that's, what happened? That's? What allowed this plant to deteriorate and the machinery just didn't work, but they this explosion. This is a oil refinery explosion. It had nothing to do with ammonium nitrate, but the does I think, whatever whatever chemical they put in gas, to boost the ox level, they turned a machine on their. Does that somehow, like all these components to the two gasoline, sir? vapor rising out into the air. It started shooting out of this tower because the pressure is overloaded and there is so much gas vapor in the air that somebody had a pickup.

Running nearby. Any get sucked up into the air take an engine, started revving and that's actually would ignited the whole thing. All of this gas vapours pickup truck sucking in gas mall fuels that word just vaporize and around it crazy in Texas City. Again, it's crazy! So you anything else. I had never known well. If you want to know more about the text, a city disaster, you can go. Look that up. I would strongly recommend reading share hours door frosts is changing lives in a heartbeat journal. Article and also big shout to fire engineering, dot com. They had a good one and then the local twelve, fifty nine that takes a city fire fighters, has a really comprehensive overview of the text. The city disaster, two so maybe take those out for even more details hides in total so that is safer, listener mail,

yeah. I'm gonna call this Kennicott were Ryan called it Well, I'm dumb, but I'm over it guys launch on first time. I thought I'd tell you, you had me duped for a long time and effort start listening to the shows a few years ago, probably for a year after that, first episode There was a list of key words that Josh referred to toward the internet pursued whenever he says well since I said blank it's time for listening for an ambitious necessary for an embarrassingly long time? I really thought that the blank word was a predetermined masterless, and that you had revealed that list of words to the audience in an early episode. Well, I guess like the magic word and he was playhouse yeah, Is that what it was I was really loved periods play house.

Sorry listening to increasing the elder episodes in hopes it. I would hear that list or catch a trend towards works, use Josh's transition with that statement at the end of every episode is just so smooth functioning. It wasn't until one episode when Josh's word was so mundane, so common is rarely your efforts, something along those lines that are finally realise there is no list. I've been full. Israeli disorder fell from his eyes and he runs fine. Well, since you said scales, does random. Words are just that random actually felt a bit disappointed when it realises, but actually took the mystery of the show, but I'm over it now whether or not it's good, to admit I've been full by this for a long time is up for debate. But dominion tell you about this for a while hope. You think of me every time, just transitions to lesser mail. From now on, I totally well here, take here keep doing what you're doing says. It's a fantastic show. Incense said, show that that died. What that's great that is for my Ryan Pestle Thanks, Ryan,

Forget it and our heads like that. Apparently we got your heads too. So it's only fair and you think Chuck yeah unjust, Then I didn't think we had a listener mail and then the slip pops awry impartial, saves the day again in only Ryan is talking about this ruined his life again is back in the game. If you want to get in touch with us and try to get our heads like Ryan did so we have to think of you everytime. We say something about listen to mail or what have you you can write to us? Send us an email to stuff cast an eye, hurt radio dot com, Stuckey should Know- is production. I heart radio for more podcast. My heart, radio is, if I heard radio apple podcast or wherever Your favorite shows. Did you know that humans were keeping dogs and cats?

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