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sitting in today, and this is stuff you should know about think tanks. The thinking is kind of tanks are fish tanks, they don't think it all will they barely think they think it's water feels a little warm for me and then we think what's water what's being wet and then that's about it? I didn't like how about some of those tasty flakes, Gimme, some another fledglings, think tanks, Islam or thinking going on in these kind of tanks will extinct tanks It depends on your opinion and that's everybody's opinion. So, yes, I guess they are mortal extinct. Tanks this is why those weird ones where I for forty seven years had to set sort of had this never dug in on what a thing

Tat was a here it now it kind of assumed I knew it was us. Can right, yeah, yeah, it's a girl, it's a good term for something else I could in this book. Is this like a bunch of smart people, sit around thinking about smart stuff, exam because gonna write as exactly where it really it's like it's like a place where people sit around and think about things that eventually, hopefully affects public policy in in a positive way his what you're, ultimately hoping for a year and by think we dont mean if you went by a think tank, they would all just be sitting around and going think it depends on the day that we go if it's right as a lot, because a tide of research in Study- oh, I was just like that, disposed of out of thin air. Now, that's the point of think tanks. As they are groups of people, profit organizations in the. U S, we should say yeah, which will get the finer points of that who say you know what

we see this problem in America. And or the world or wherever great Britain has plenty. China has a bunch and they say how can we solve this problem? Let's get to organise we're gonna, take this problem on and figure it out through pragmatic science and evidence based research or going to come up with a solution to this problem, and then the next step is to get it out there to the public to policy makers to give people talking about it and then once enough we will talk about it and there is a public debate over it. Ideally, if it's a Good idea it will be adopted, is public policy and that problem will be solved in a good way. Yeah and that's the ideal function of aid

ideal. Think tank, which is to say it, is non partisan. It is fact based and it doesn't have an agenda necessarily, but things are changed over the years as we will see fairly recently, Chuck yeah seems like in and think tanks can be very much slanted, but what will get and all that that's just sort of a long winded set up? Ok, it was a good set up. The man shall we go back and chicken or body Plato so creates yeah, so Plato his academy, the academy was some people say, was sort of the world's first think tank, which makes sense, yet he would get dude would sit around in the garden and imagine drink wine shop and talk. Smarts and philosophy and kind of you know like it was high minded stuff for the day

sit around and think about sort of what was going on around them and how they could impact change, yeah or thinking about the nature of reality or existence. They once decided that knowledge was uncertain in life is essentially a crap game based on probability rather than absolute truth. She stepped back and think about it. That is the basis of quantum mechanics. You could you imagine if they had access to LSD back then I know I don't think I've been too terribly different well here, that there were sort of travelling down that road anyway, but that was I mean, that's that's pretty impressive. Some of this stuff they came up with this we know. We did a sceptics episode. Yet this is a map to certain I'm sorry, not scepticism, stoicism a member

Europe is where this stuff was. All these different philosophies we're all gonna Qana grew from this academy. So if you can make a pretty good case that it was the world's first think tank, it's a little. It's now the first modern think tank buddy, It qualifies and waterways. No, there was one in eighteen, thirty one in great Britain, the Duke of Wellington, establish what was called the Royal United Services institution which studied military science year and then it here in the: U S and nineteen ten, the Carnegie and moment for international peace, which studied there results of military sides right now, still around Carnegie Man, I mean they. They still have endowed. Many they're well in doubt the efforts up and death and then, of course, the Brookings institution which may be them. Most famous modern American, think tank to this day. The song you probably here about the most. It was

by robber, Brookings nineteen. Sixteen, They had a lot of Emily solve a lot of influence, but that a great deal of influence, I'm kind of post depression with empty Ares new deal, helped construct. The new deal yeah help construct the Marshall Plan after World war. Two there was that was huge, yokes very huge, so both were them pressure. The new deal definitely was, but the Marshall Plan is, there was a survey done of, I think, like four hundred fifty historians and they The number one most important thing that government has done since World WAR War two between over too in the twenty first century was the Marshall Plan, like the aid not only like brought Europe back from World WAR two year. It set Europe on a path away from communism, where, if you're not into communism, that was a great positive benefit right, get in the way it did. That was in two years, based on this economic plan in two years,

got Europe WAR ravaged rule or to ravage Europe back to production levels. Twenty five percent higher than the production levels it was at before war war to mine two years, so just went back to normal plus twenty five percent better and Europe said I kind of like this capitalism thing and Western Europe went that way. I was gonna curious cause Brookings, either Brookings detention gets a lot of like left, leaning criticism today can a wanderer that all came from an the article I read said that is a victory of the conservative side to have brookings labelled liberal, just from kind of pounding it in the press, even though Its history and its member board throughout the history has not been liberal at all and has been filled from the top down over the years, with the rank and file Republicans and conserving.

From like the Reagan era on through Bush, one into okay, so they ve theyve it causes liberals, liberal, so that liberals will swallow the stuff that Brookings is poor are there no why they undermine their own think tank well out it's not their own think tank. It's not a conservative. Think tank was centrist like almost right down the middle from right, but I think they want to advance their own with their conservative think tanks. I wanted. Them sedate label Brookings a super liberal I gotcha. So anything centrist is liberal. I think I got there. It's over and above what it is. I can remember who scored it, but somebody has a liberal score between zero and a hundred four think. Tanks in brooking scored like a fifty three right down the middle, like apparently as far as think tanks go. It's about is centrist as you possibly

can get here and they ve been around for a long time. You makes a lot of sense yet so it not just Brookings bookings is definitely one of was famous around the world has done quite a bit of stuff, but there's plenty of is there some. The reincorporation is a very famous think tank yeah, which did you know Rand, is actually a. I don't know what you can but its post. It started out as r and d like research and development, Rand, incorporation and from what I understand they ve come up with the ideas for computers, the internet, spy satellites, the space programme, all that stuff, that America didn't the mid twentieth century. Technologically, yes, yes, the reincorporation, like thinkers were the ones who came up with this. Yeah. I think I needed some of that. None of us want to get fully had hundred there a think tank yeah with

namely the reincorporation right, don't like just corporation but but there they, like a think tank. That's really specifically was specifically zoned in to America's technology. From progression idea, you mean a lotta think tanks can be specialised, like that, like some are very, very much just concentrate on economics. Some concentrate on social issues in that case technology, and then I think some like brookings are sort of or more broad yeah, though, to take any case, we'll take all come here. So after world war, two like there were think tanks before, like you said, Brookings Carnegie, the Royal United Services Institute in the UK. There were like theirs: tanks prior to one or two, but after world war, two they really proliferated and the recently started was government was this kind of government. It was in that in the early twentieth century Eustace does this: it was

wasn't anything like you see it now. Wasn't this monolithic behemoth? There has its tendrils in every aspect of people's lives or anything if it was a little too far, the other way where it didn't quite know it. It was doing so some of those early philanthropists like Carnegie in Brookings. They they endowed these think tanks, a kind of help government out to basically be like the research arm for government too. Direct the best way for America to go and that's how it started out and then, after world war, two when America had like all this cash in all this forward, momentum think tanks really popped up. In there were all these kind of competing and thence times harmonious voices from these think tanks to say. Go this way. Go this way or the other way, but

they all had something in common, and that was that they were staffed by very smart people, who did very deliberate, very good research who produced policy positions that law makers could then take themselves and go out to the people as a seed. This is what I'm talking about here is the data. Here's a sound, for you to make your your stand. It that's what thinks tanks did in a way they were. They very much were along the same track as lobby lobbyists. Which we did an episode on that those already good too, but think tank stop short of lobbying, allegedly yeah, because they kind of had to starting a nineteen thirteen. They were granted tax exempt status, very big deal cause. There's a lot of money involved in many of these. I've been trying to get that for myself for years, sex and you're right. It is a very big deal, the church of Josh, just let it go and that's it, I'm wearing this programme

in the nineteen fifties, though, is one Congress really kind of because they were tax exempt, had to get involved and say: hey, listen, you gonna walk a line here. You politically you can't. If you want to keep this tax exemption now, oh yeah, we for sure do they said you can't be Edison, it's gotta, be good information. You can't things a certain way or support. Officially, support were endorse candidates, I'm you are here to educate with your objective work, and that were long for a while, and then we started getting think tanks that set out to do just that

which they are called added, advocacy, think tanks now, which I'm not sure how they manage to skirt unless they changed the rules, skirt those rules and say: hey, we're gonna, be a conservative thank tanker or liberal, think tank and still be tax exempt. The do you know the only thing that I can tell as that there still technically producing a public good, if they believe that their producing a public good, even if they have conservative alignment, liberal alignment they're trying to move society along in a way that they think is good for the betterment of societal stuff, you should know is: do that's what I'd Mattel I mean, could we know you think tank now? Absolutely not! I mean think about it like I mean I guess we could. I think that there is a I dont care. Let me take their back now absolutely cognomen, because we can be brought to you by me on,

we don't. How could we don't have time? I don't know it's a good question, but we don't have yet you couldn't advertising have like you, couldn't get advertise your money and be tax exempt this as yet like. I doubt if the Brookings institutions papers have like Burger King coupons on them, You never know should so we'll get to why we can't be later on. Ok, but one of the things about about think tanks is: there there the reason they have attack exempt statuses. What they're doing is producing work that furthers the public good yeah. That's why they're supposed to have tax exempt status? Will you pointing out is a really good thing to point out a way, Well, there's a lot of stuff here that they could lose their tax exempt status for and if we first forward two three or five years from now. I think we're going to start seeing them lose tax exempt status. They just haven't yet I think, is what it is. You get some of em flat out like it so obvious.

When they come around like when the Democrats were beaten, two thousand they got together and they started left. Leaning thinkers got together and started the centre for american Progress, which is an economic organization. It says its non party but it literally says, as a quote, their goal is to develop new policy ideas critique the policy that stems from conservative values the fly challenges the media to cover the issues that truly matter and shape the national debate right. So it's there they're kind of wild, saying like we're out to prove not just have an opinion about. Maybe that's a distinction out to prove that conservative economic values are bad for the country basically, that the difference, maybe eyesight years, our data- I honestly, don't know- do this now:

Job Ed's thrown together. I said so. I know its not supposed to just be up ads is supposed to be backed by data yeah, but but I mean like centre for american progress or like the Heritage Foundation, we're like Alec, the American Legislative Exchange Council like these are like the Morgan Your whole episode just on Alec one day, ok seriously, but they're like little Billy cream. Dual Jabbar, like karate training islands, for liberals or for conservatives or for rich billionaire followers like it doesn't matter like that's what they are there there. They come up with new ideas to push their agenda, and then they train activists to go out and get that message out to change people's minds, get themselves on CNN or Fox NEWS or whatever right and to shape the public discussion on on something

it has a lot of the contours of what think tanks used to have yet, but there's a whole other layer of like like seeing you in We saw there that that that think tanks aren't supposed to have three take a break. Breakin will talk a little bit more about the heritage Foundation ran after this everybody. We want to talk about audible, which, just so happens to be the sponsor of the audible audio pioneer award at this year's Iheart. Radio podcast towards an audible, gives you the edge by keeping you informed, inspired and entertained on the go right with the audible app it's easier to get more books in your life. Using the time you already have listen while commuted working out doing chores anytime anywhere

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her voice broke, they dream about a long time ago. They said our aid, nineteen, yes, we are already in there. He is watching movies or asleep most of the time. So we have a good opportunity there, so they want you think he has a good. I did you see the numbers about his movie, watching no man it's great, what lies an early van, it's great, how many movies that he wants to day a low though he was a lot of movies, and this is like back when they just have like real phone strip. I guess they. Probably this. You know kids projector when here inanity wanted to watch it a girdle. In western new made during me, can you do the rest of the areas that know so they came along, and I said our regions in an office here are our recommendations. What you mean I would call a blueprint for growth. The government, by its frayed new deal lapels and shaking out forty eight years of liberal policy.

And it came by way of two thousand more than two thousand recommendations nearly tried institute Two thirds of a mere Reagan was like Great Britain. Here's my thanks for the outline for what I should do right by plan yesterday, Third, like you said during his two terms as what he tried to implement and then, of course, and Bill Clinton gets in their the Progressive Policy Institute of its two thousand plus, but they offered similar recommendations and that's how it goes with think tanks right now because, if you're a law maker and again, we said this in the lobbying episode to you not necessarily like some smart whip crack sharp person. Now I think we seen that played out you can just like you. People to vote for you there on both sides of the Isle Associated crack it, like you, know, tramper anyhow, I mean on all up and down the house and send it right you,

No, I think there are geniuses, but they're not they're, not now, and you don't have to be smart to hold office. You just have to get people to vote for you again, which is why think tanks have flourished for so long why lobbyists have flourished for so long because they're, the ones who do the research and write the policy, an area where you go, you wanna go look smart here you go buddy we even like highlighted some sound bite, is really going to say to people and get the get into that before our new cycle. Yeah, that's one of the big rules they think tanks play today is by an end. Have you know, especially since we're we're too, is by going to policymakers, be like here's, your age take her leave as much as you want, but ours is backed by data like it dovetails what you want to do with the country and it is just gangbusters stuff quality well researched stuff, yet really interesting, because I think there are still think tanks that only craft.

Only do researching and presented and say do what you will with it. But those seemed more and more gone by the wayside hit two thousand. Ten was a real watershed year feels, like fur, think, tanks yeah, like you mention aliquid gonna cover in full, but I mean there. They are a bill writing organization. They called him. Bottle bills, but anyone When you hear a senator somethin setting, you know we granted this legislation. That probably means is an organ they should, like our handed them. The legislation and said here now here it is, if you want to use it right, and you probably should want to use it, that's so that is so, like, I think, does in many ways qualify as a think tank there, not a hundred percent standard, think tank, but actually writing the law, yet in it for the lawmakers go to India and going to Congress and introduce it as their own bill right. That's

little beyond with think tanks to think tanks, Morlock Right, a paper that say Here's this problem in America. Here's some ideas to solve it, hears his research to back up those ideas. Go write, Allah based on it. What things like Alec does is take it a step further, but Alex still qualifies as a think tank and Alec is part of a something called the state policy network, two parallel there's one another's eight and audiovisual, and there like a confederation of think tanks that basically sit around and figure out ways to sue local state and federal law ah makers over laws to try to get laws overturn like they used the court's rather than the regulation, but it still they stated goal is to affect public policy in turn it in one direction or another year. What was both a website that you sent

they had just watch yes or Swatch, called them called Alec a corporate bill mill right so they're just churning out hundreds of bills a year not over I'll, get you But many of them do an is just I don't think a lot of Americans realise that a lot of actual legislative policy is being written by Mcdonald's yeah. Exactly it's crazy. I can't wait to do the when we're both going to be our cars are going to blow up right after, but by God, we're going to get that episode at. Maybe we should make that are like it. Last episode in the year what's twenty years now, those eighteen years ago, I still have that bit right so We all talk about money here, God, because this they are not the independent and most times these

Is there not the independent organizations that you think they are they used to be, did by these endowments more and more it's it's corporations, large businesses, sometimes private individuals, of course, will give an Sometimes it's over a great work around four campaign: finance laws. Instead of directing Yanina tens of millions of dollars like you can't due to a campaign, you can throw it in a think. Tank they'll probably get a better result anyway, that new the time was it used to be. I got in my day right, a rich philanthropist would say I hate poverty.

Effects it has on Americans, go figure this out, I'm going to find a think tank and that's all you dedicated to like just go, make that happen and that's what think tanks were originally born from an that's, largely the the only kind of oversight they worked under as they were trying to end poverty or they are trying to work against Communism, like these huge haughty goals, yeah now there being micromanage, that's one thing: that's happening too. Yeah and the idea that the these think tanks are not so aid or influence are affected by their donors is not true and the sort of the biggest problem going as it now. You have legislation being drawn up by think tanks because corporations or pay money to get research that looks like its in their favour yeah. So so one of the problems is the like. There's not as many philanthropists surges

Dowling think tanks with no strings attached anymore. There are plenty of philanthropists out there still that are funding, think tanks, but their donations are erected their results oriented the very technocratic great. They want to see bang for their buck words before it was dislike to make America better place, and that was it. There was a lot of like come now, it is, were being held to the fire. You know now it's like, we want you to further this specific agenda, which is we want to make sure that Saint Louis his children, there's not a single one, malnourished any longer right, which is great. It's a great goal, there's nothing wrong with that goal, but it's so very narrowed and tailored and there's ways that you can hold the think tank. Accountable is good in one hand, but it also basically the introduction of liquor corporate management to think tanks with,

That's not really how they were originally form. Having a weird effect on up so think tanks are stirring to say I thank you for this money will go, save the children of Saint Louis, but in vain. We shall saint Louis. There was a great show that you are down so again: saving the chosen Louis goods But we got all this other stuff. You want to do to sew to keep that going, we're going to have to also go find sources elsewhere. Right and again, you can find them from others. Other people, but one of the places are finding him from his corporations, and that is having a big. Negative impact on think tank trainer yeah. That goes both ways. In the past year, eight or ten years, conservative billionaires of assets-

here, they funnel two hundred and twenty million dollars to about a hundred groups and think tanks to do things like discredit climate change, science, by which I mean dude. I know the Coke brothers and x on mobile specifically find it a couple of think tanks called ATLAS Economic Research Foundation and the international policy network to base police to basically question The science buying climate change to further fossil fuel interests, which is see you guys in Hell for that one like that, would it me legacy to leave an earth just to make a few extra box forget futures durations, they can all burn

forget all the endangered species that are on the brink of extinction. That are don't wait. No, there now extinct, it doesn't matter because we made a few extra billion dollars near. That's that's despicable! Well, what are its twenty? I just watched the movie Chinatown for a movie crush episode in there. That you're sayin it yeah. Among a lot of that movie is about what was agreed titled water, empower. You now get out it's about. You know this. Weird political situation will say. And I, where they are diverting water to the valley, which was a desert and all these rich fat cats that were getting the water diverted there were buying up when, the valley, like hundreds of thousands of acres, because they knew was begun. Gonna be a lush green valley, soon

right. So all that really happened anyway. Chinatown was based on that, but there's at great scene when Jack Nicholson as Jake Guinness confronts John Houston about. You know, he's the big bad guy no across, and he says you know how much money do you need how much, how many more can you buyer the or that nieces? What you trying to secure- and he looked at her when he said the future Mr Gillis that's what it is there, not after more billions to buy more planes bigger house? May there trying to leave that they that's what they want out of their legacy is they're trying to effect. Future any in their own specific way right, but their affecting the future in the worst way possible. According to us and the problem is not according to them sure you know, but if you, if you pull the enough people and just ask them

Finally, if you took money in billionaires in power and in all that out of it, do you want a better future for humanity and for earth you a hundred years from now, I would guess the majority of people would say yes and if you can say what these guys are actually doing the opposite of ensuring that right now, how do you feel about that most people would say: I feel so great about that. Now the problem is most people would also follow up with. But what can we do right there with their rich? And that's a great point? Let me do let me how back on Facebook and find a goat video. That's when the hopelessness sets in that's, what's causing the paralysis in or are we right now is hopelessness and That'S- That'S- got room at all Everybody is here to listen to my new podcast the end of the world with Josh Clark yeah. It's a really uplifting coming very soon. You're coming this fall sometime, eventually

doc upon Ura Happy bills, Seventy thousand thirteen. However, on the other side leaning? weekly magazine. The nation revealed the positions of the left, leaning centre for american progress and other think tanks in DC or shaped by interest other donors. So it happens on both sides of the for sure yeah yeah, I know it's a equal opportunity, screwing that the world is getting from lobbying from think tanks from from wealthy interests. Legged right, both Thus I did so their vexedly unregistered lobbyist organisations now to a large degree right and because Air tax exempt they're, not obligated to release financial stay, its or reveal their donors. Yes, so I'm surprised it took that long for people to be like wait a minute. We can really take advantage here. So, let's, let's take another breakin and will give

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Miller, warmongering collar. I feel we should mention this thing with and family foundation quickly. That's interesting. I think this is a great example of what a think tank can do these days. Yet some of you said that the SAM Walton family of Walmart, fame. They find a lot of conservative think tanks having most people know that, but then they also fund funded one and think tanks, backed by a Mamma when it came to the affordable health care act, and you like wait a minute. Why would they do something like that? If they are conservative family supporting concerted causes then you do little poking around and it turns out that critics would say that the health care bill that forced employers to pay for their employees, healthcare tax Walmart, was like this is great cause. We can afford to do this, but are mom and pop competitors can't rushing to try and get this pushed through,

even though he had its face. It doesnt quite make a lot of sense. It makes sense to them by. Why would Walmart take on the cost of their their employees health care because they know that they can go back to sleep. Everybody near stub has conquests really interesting. It is it's fast Any? But that's one thing you can do is donate to think tat. That's furthering your agenda and because think tanks are now largely agenda driven, there's a lotta think tanks out there It can help you out and theirs A new thing, that's happening with think tanks, these days as their starting to solicit corporate donations, and one of the saddest stories is the story of the Brookings institution. The most centrist think tank that is put out the Marshall plan. That helped figure out the new deal in its in how it addressed the depression like has done. All is amazing. Stuff is

they hired a lobbyist for their strategic development, chief and they're, now soliciting corporate donations left and right and they're. Basically, this is this is what you can get like if you hire a think tank or I'm sorry that you're not supposed to say higher, if you enter into a partnership or donate to think tank in your ear corporation or very wealthy person you what the think tank will do, as they will basically get your ideas out there. They will deploy to first of all, say there. Is this really great your times article about the was the name of that company the liner corporation. They they wanted to build in San Francisco. They want to redevelop deciding SAM Cisco is whatever the apparently there is pushed back on it or what they were getting some sort of push back from the residents deserves.

So I guess the Brookings institution went to them and said: hey. We ve got some ideas for you. We can support this as basically like a great idea for cities of the future. And we're going to lend the credibility of our experts in our think tank to your project and make it like a champion kind of thing, like a blue type and archetype for how to further cities in America. Your development projects it through their home builders yet, but but with Brookings institution behind it right, there is a veneer of something bigger than building home J, bigger than redeveloping something about a future progress in brookings like white to them and in exchange for four hundred Grand Brookings like added this credibility to God, Talking heads out there on the news to talk up this development and like what it meant for the future, and I M one of the other things they did and can do. Is they can set up summits, conferences and cities of the future?

and get the home builders and lawmakers. In the same room to hang out together, and so that's lobbying. Europe there's no other way to put that is. Being in their doing it on behalf of a specific corporation? There should be no tax exemption whatsoever any longer does it matter what side of the aisle you're on if you're a taxpayer, you are funding that you bye bye through these tax exemptions, because we foot the bill for text adduction sure. So if a single core fishing interests are being served even if society in general is benefiting in some way. That's too much of a slippery slope that breaks the tax exemption status and that that should go away, and that, sadly, is is apparently we're brookings the direction. Brookings is going yeah and others too, I should say, oh sure, sure

even the ones that aren't maybe as outright or on his boldface about this stuff, like a lot of scholar, say that Nina bought and paid for researches sore the exception still, but even so they're still places where you know you may not unite, may not push out certain research if you think you're my piss off your boss, yet which is the same thing, orb sort of self. Since her yourself, if you think, like a man on earth like we're, getting Donny, since now like this might not please them, it may make em. Look bad, so probably should just avoid this conclusion yeah. So, maybe not of like completely inventing a stir, the year, something but being raised, active in what you choose to research or how you re, tat, what you release sure is ass near another version. The same thing, a totally is and one of one of the other things that they ve been found to do a lot of think tanks,

one of the new things that think tanks do is they will circulate drafts before there is a final draft to donors, equity. Think about this, and sometimes their opinion yeah we'll be incorporated into the final draft? That is the antithesis of the spirit of things. Thanks and what they originally meant to do. They were supposed to be like here's, the facts right, here's the research to back it up. It is what it is. We think you can Why it to make the world better in this way, not you know, what do you guys think this is? This is job with the kind of things you selected for this redevelop me occurs. We can change this part two to job with the sinks you chose right that's just not what it supposed to be, and the reason that think tanks are doing this is they are in existential danger through the death of expertise, that a member I talked about in the eliminating diet up the problem.

It's not like America just said, were sick of expertise. Words were tired of you. Experts like you're always right, more tired of mere euros right. People got tired of being lied to admit, web and misinformed in manipulated, and they finally said you know what experts that's enough enough of you are full of it. Enough of you have let your credibility be co up. Yeah we're just not going to listen to any of you anymore, because we don't know who to trust and the experts brought about their the the death of expertise themselves in large per year and there's another those is article four, the washing imposed collar, think tanks obsolete what sort of argues along those lines about and also incorporates the internet and the length of the like a research cycle like with the internet and twitter and Facebook in things like TED talks.

There's a guy Donald ABLE sent a professor University Western Ontario wrote a book called to think tanks matter where his conclusion basically, is that the marketplace of ideas he says has become congested. And you don't have time anymore here to do a twelve month, research proposal the following conclusions: when hundred TED talks over that twelve months will be published, not picking on TED talks are great. Now is a good example the, but you can push out a TED talk. He can push Facebook live video is as an economist and have a lot of sway. You and they mention in here the year an article about vaccines, for instance, when, as far as it goes with vaccines, reincorporation one of the large think tanks are we already mentioned. They did like a very thorough, deep dive in research debunking,

the notion that vaccines cause autism and it took a long time, but you can get on Facebook and go to a group. Educate before you vaccinate and watch videos by non experts in people are swayed these days by the stuff you like. Why wait? You know the site, the new cycle so shortened right. You can't wait for a long, deep debris. Sir, paper to come out with some abstract summary that no one reads anyway, apparently now there? You know the written in such a way whereby they will do say red, abstract summary. This stinks we should Do it yeah, you know they become so opinionated manasses its depressing to think that Facebook and Twitter have outsize a think tank as far as they do, for I have, flights yeah. Then you tube and basically anything that gives a voice to the average person which, on the one hand, is really cool and great sort of democracy. Is it in a way? But, but

worst way at times, but the its tied into this death of expertise within in a really toxic manner? You know I'm saying like the two that that democratization like giving everybody like a mouthpieces not in and of itself like a bad thing, but when, since it come sided with the loss of trust and experts and expertise here, that's what were the problem came from? That was the reason why we can be a think tank. Sadly, we could be a think tank. Now but we couldn't be a bona fide think tank because Chuck we don't have time on any given week to do so. Much thorough primary source research area into stuff? If we do, if we released one of these every couple months, sure we could be like a real think tank, but it would be nearly five six episodes ear. People love that yet blood

anything else nope. I guess I don't either sorry for going off. Everybody thinks for listening, I'm sure I'll get an email or whatever It is worth it view. I know more about think tanks no go on the internet and look up some think tanks and see if there's any, that you agree with a lot of them have like daily interpretations of news. They can go through their lens, yet it's it's. It's a way to keep up with things sure, and you can also revisit this article and house of works, not a think tank called how think tanks work as it says it s time for us to remember. I call this a ball point. Pen, addiction, furnished pen, addiction, hey guys, been listening for a couple of months or so new listener you're my first foreign depart gas. It is really enjoy listening to welcome

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