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I guess I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles double check. Brian those Jerry over their citizens. Stuffy know about color blindness, that's right, which I don't know what about. I guess I didn't either As for those Theseus kind of assume, you do, but there's a lot more to it than you realize, right yeah. Kind of wondered about myself, though, because Emily is always telling me that I'm getting I was wrong so I took it but took an online test added to how'd you fair abnormal color did you I I took one of those. Oh, what's it called the scope? an anomalous scope. Yeah. I took one of those on line and I said I had just very weak color blindness, which I was very surprised by because dark colours a kind of hard for me to differentiate. Sometimes

they. They said that you don't see black or white you're like Michael Jackson is right. Man, He said that bear no one ever listen until now, until I proved it on the internet ere, I think out of the internet, so you wanna talk little history because believe it or not. There is color blindness history and I should say also check. I looked up the more politically correct term for color blindness in there really isn't. One area will that's great, so I can feel free to use colorblind we're in good conscience, ok, fantastic, so arm back in seventeen. Ninety four John DAWN, who came up with atomic theory, he was a pretty important

early scientists? He presented his first scientific paper and it was on color blindness, as you know that no, I never heard of a guy, yes, so arm heap. His first was from what anybody can can tell the first scientific paper on color blindness and he wrote it about himself. He and his brother were both color blind and he posited that he had some sort of blue fluid in his eye. That was effect his color vision and he willed that when he died his eye be dissected, and when they did, they found it pretty normal. There is no fluid in there and later on, they preserve desired tissue and ninety ninety five use diagnosed with something called a tutor in opium. So he is a duty ran in the parliaments of people who are colorblind near meaning that he lacked

functioning green cones are medium Wave Cohen's in his eye interesting. So he was the first outta. Here is the first one to write a scientific paper on it at least her look for him now in bad for him. Well, yeah, I think so too. I don't want to like overstate how bad I feel for people who have color blindness cuz. I know they're like living life in enjoying it and everything, but sure I would not want to be color blind. If I had my druthers Shana know and I'm sure most people who are color blind feel the same way You know John for used to work with us. I believe he has some sort of color blindness or may be calling it color vision deficiency. I saw that is

the term because colorblind alot of people that don't knowing about it might think. Well, if you colorblind any seed in black and white, which is a form of color blindness, but that's the most extreme form. There is definitely a gradient appropriately enough between full color vision, which called tried chromosome and complete color blindness. Yes, so let's get into the vision a little Have we done one on the eye? Dude idle? I was like a lot of the sounds kind of familiar and I looked high and low and could not find anything on vision on seeing on the nothing, so I dont know if we did maybe a video on this once or somethin baby, but it some of it seem familiar. I couldn't find an episode on our aid, We have a written in her eye. Like everyone knows the retina, since his light deals, color and vision, and there are,

and cones easier, they're called rising comes because of their shape. They look like cones or rides so rods, help you see in low light and the cones are what, where the detail, the color come from, so the cone malfunctioning, or not being there at all. If you dont have three cones and you you have at least two to see, in any color, but if one of those cones of the three, if you do have three is malfunctioning, then you will fall somewhere on the scale of color vision, deficiency right right, so the there's like gum, then called. So I guess it: if you have normal color vision, you have tried chromosome. If you Of anomalous novelist chromosome, it means that one of those coins is not functioning properly, although they all still work. It's just out of line and a little bit here and those

way that it can get out of alignment is, is those cones each of them has go. Crumb of a crumb. Afore, I think, is what it's called, which is like a little molecule. Bed is a tune to a certain type of a certain wavelength of the visible Durham and those wavelengths that it picks up, cannot overlap depending on the cone like red and green cones. What they would they pick up on the visible spectrum overlap big time. Green and blue kind overlap Blue overlap, the least, but if the, if the alignment of the wavelength to the visible spectrum within that cone is just a little bit off, you're not going to see colors like other people, see colors, but you still get to see something I am that's called anomalous, try chromosome yeah, and there are well There are so many different sub categories. I guess we should go through some of these for sure

you? Have that enormous try chromosome instead so hard? You do have your coat. So that means you have three cones, but one of those countries defective. So if you have the due to run anomaly the fund due to Romany. No eight, that's a Bible book is it due to Molly? That's right. It sounds weird yeah, I think so. I'm really bad with Amr. I think uses just the man yeah, but it was it was clumsy, but that Dude anomaly gathered dual due to an arm it's a really is, is an anomaly of your duties, that's right Thy Tudor anomaly you're just talking about that's if your green cones are out of line and there's Prato anomaly or protein armilly and that's your regular

being out of alignment and then tried anomaly is blue right. So, if your sing a cone altogether. That's for malfunctioning! You have three, one of them doesn't work quite right if you're missing altogether, you have die chromatic vision, and then we said, of course, that the worst is Motto christmassy. That's that's if that's basically saying it I can white and sort of shades of gray, but if you die chrome at or a person with diamond. A vision. Maybe that's the pc distinction. It's not call someone a dyke roam at maybe you think, maybe as depending on your your condition there, like abbreviated terms for it, but I saw people being referred to as died. Chrome ass all the time, but you really flies in the face of the whole thing of describing people by their condition, rather than like a person with thy chromosome. You know I mean gotcha. Within the Dyke Roma, though there that the three different sub types, which are the dude

the protocol in the treaty as the easiest way to say it right. So that's what those fall under yet and so the big difference between anomalous, tried, Chrome, a sea and die Cromer, see die. Chromosome says it all. You have to functioning cones and because of all their overlap, chuck with all of the the wave links that the different pigments in your Cohen's catch, the that's a huge palliative colors that produced in the human brain. When we look around if you remove one of those, an enormous reduction in colors, supposedly each cone, MA supplies the number of colors by a hundred. So if you start out with just one cone, let's say you can see a hundred shades just by adding a second cone. You can now see ten thousand different colors. And by adding a third cone you can now see a million different colors right. So

you remove one of those cones you're. Suddenly down, ten thousand colors. That's a significant difference and that's the thing about die. Chromosome is it's not that you're you're cones or miss align one of your cones? Just is not producing at all, and so your lacking a whole range of colors that other people with all three functioning cones can see right in, like I said earlier with monochrome see that's when you see basically and blackened in gray- and there too, I was there rod monochrome, asean cone type and if you have the rod type also have very poor vision in your very since it with a light, and you might also have something called NIST Agnes, which that is when had they call it dancing eyes. That's win

the horizontal version, which means you're you're, I basically darts back and forth to the left into the right constantly like prove Taylor. Vince is here that you'd recognize him and in like he's too well known for his the actor with. Oh, I know em, I just never notices. I oh really hate the idea you can tell a directors like I was literally get that going for the scene. Okay, well, so When you think about the color we'll red and yellow blue INDIGO Green violet, I said them out of order. I wonder what that would spell. Doesnt spur Reggie live there But if your colorblind, like everyone, wants to know what? What does it look like if your colorblind it is little hard to describe to this very subjective when you think about how each person sees cut

I can imagine everyone sees things a little bit differently, but if you're colorblind that power, it is just not as varied it's more muted. Ah, yes for sure, because again, though different coins are interacting their overlapping to produce a huge palette of colors is likely to see everything in red, green and blue there's those those things mixed together in Iraq to produce colors beyond those three, so yeah missing line, you're you're missing a lot more than just green or just read, or just blew yeah and things you know it doesn't mean its altogether gone either, because it's on a spectrum management. What kind you have like could be reddish very muted or green. It looks more green gray, but it's just not that sort of robust stay color wielded that you're used to seeing with what what you consider normal color vision for sure in, like with

have one of the opium is, if you have a protein opium, which is your red coins, don't function at all the reds or brownish. The purple are bluish, your yellows totally normal, but the green is also a kind of like a weird can a catchy brown itself and that dumb that really overlaps with them due to an open to the big difference between those is that you're on your read. What would it look like a dark, dark brown to a protein ope for due opaque was the kind of like a kind of a drab brownish all live. We just now what you wanna see when you look like a bright red apple. We're gonna? U jolliffe right, though it's delicious and they take why you like. There's no olive, so let's take a break as some olives.

Talk about animals in and testing for, color blindness. Ready to this, hey everybody. I want to talk to you about your website that doesn't look good and this hard to program, because, where space does it better yeah, they do square base. Is this amazing magical tool that you can just basically good people and all of a sudden, you have a website to do whatever you want with you can use it to sell stuff. You can use it to tell your world about all the great thoughts you have and now Skurse based also offers email campaign, so you can take business embryo it up here we square space or self are very popular. Ass white ass k live website keeps track of all comings and goings on Oliver alive shows, and it's always a Jew

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see in color, some see in black and white is going depends, dogs and cats. They they d actually do see color, they just don't see the whole. Roy GB of color spectrum that you and I know purely apes and monkeys see the same way we do. Then you have really colorblind animals like black and white types like raccoons seals, whales, Viking, dives, fella, and then birds barely see see more color than we do yeah and there you know, there's other dumb animals that see things like ultraviolet like there's a visible spectrum, but that's what we humans see where technically a few had like some sort of chrome, afore and an option that together in a combed it to produce the red, green or blue. If you had when that was a tune to gamma rays or Ex razor ultraviolet or infrared, we would be able to see in those two, but we don't

that the other animals are attuned to other things and the from what I saw two birds seemed it really see. Colors like nobody's business birds. Colleagues, I think, tend to see, believes in yellows just like in a little more robustly and the other colors on spectrum are more muted or just don't show up like me, him at all are more like browns, or something like that. So if you get your the ball, you wanna, blue Bawler, yellow ball. They will be able to spot, knows a lot easier. Well, it doesn't mean they can't see it did. This means they'll, see a grayish, alright yeah a few Gallagher yes fresher, but though, who wants to play with the gray bar? figures, my point, always wonder how they test for that stuff in animals is ask you blew it. That's a good Scooby impressed our it's a testing for this sitting on the internet, of course, in you eat

one of the animal is scope tests. I took what is known as a p ip which is it? S called the issue. Horror played and pseudo I saw chromatic played, so this was a doctor in Japan about the test for the japanese army, Doktor Ishihara and don't look at it, it looks so we can a cool, slightly psychedelic. Looking it's a circle. Composed of a bunch a little colored dots back in the day. He just hold up cards like a rorschach test like water colours cards yeah it's a circle with a bunch of little colored dots in the middle and then within all those dots. There is this shape of a number composed of different variations of colors. So, though like a a circle with a bunch of dots that are mainly red and shades of red and then within that will be like in before that's really Really close.

And some of them really stand out as obvious I M really blend Danner camouflaged. Almost an you pick out these where's and say what number you're seeing and then after you go through this whole series, they'll be able say, like you know, you're did, he get on the the reds, but you obviously have trouble with the greens or something like that. Yeah, because, deep what color scheme they use if you are like a protein, ope and cant see reds you're you're not going to be able to pick out. The red three that's embedded within these dots because you can't see red, it's all, just going to fade together and just look like a field of dots to you, where's somebody else who can see reds. Would you see it clear as day that there are three in the middle of that circle? Here it's pretty ingenious test, and that was that was like the test for a while, but it's definitely advance by leaps and bounds

since then there's there's more tests than Didn T showed up in this article is one I can't remember the name of it, but it's made of it. You have four rows of something like twenty or thirty tiles of varying shades across the spectrum in your supposed to. Basically, them in order to match a line like a control line. And dumb. It's kind of like anomalous scope test, but it's more hands on India and others Thea. I think the coastguard in the Navy and the AIR Force Use called the Falworth lantern test for our sorry, Farnsworth Lantern last year, my my It was a marine and he's a pilot needed to take this. So this is it Additional tests, basically, if you fail the pip test then, you will use this. The FDA also uses it, because if you wanna be a pilot, you can't be colorblind, so it's basically a backup, and it's like a little

Box, that shows you colored lights, and you have to identify these colored lights as they come up from a distance So two at a time, maybe one or two time- and you just have to pick a mountain- identify the colors, but they do dim use these affair So, like you can't cheat your way through by knowing that something is bright, so it might be yellow right, because you have a few if, when you start looking at colored lights and stuff, like that, it does become clear that some are just brighter than others, which is why I think people have yellow blue color blindness or Triton hopes they. They tend to be very sensitive to bright light, which kind of makes sense anew in a weird way, but a line of this stuff I was like. We have the house

happen again, you know like theatre in opium in protein appear. They overlap so much that they call both of EM reg, red green color blindness here and they both sea reds is browns and they see greens is browns, but it's just bizarre mates in when I really kind of drill into it, the actual details of it or are really fascinating, because you you just raised your whole life to think. Like this person can see, read this person can see green. This person can see blue and it's as simple as that in its the exact opposite of as simple as that in reality, risers there's so much new wants to colors that are produced by the. Three hour, Gb Cones yet mean imagine diagnosing a kid. I mean it's not. A little bit about living with colored blindness in a bit, but its and I'd love to hear it. People, it's not like it might hamper you. I don't think to the point of danger.

I guess. Maybe, if you were a monochrome at that, might be possible, but at sea like more than an inconvenience in anything else, right yeah, you be like what is this black liquid? pouring out from a major artery and my arm, I don't know who this is. If it were, read. I would know its blood right yeah as far as its cause. It is largely Jim, Although there are some eggs and diseases in conditions it could cause it later in life, but it's just really. Genetic. Ah, yes, so especially red green color blindness, What is it sex linked, recessive. Yeah and weigh more men and weigh more caucasian men, get it. They are women and I'm not quite sure about the cock.

Imported couldn't find any explanation for that, but there is a very clear and easy explanation for why more men have something like eighty percent of caucasian men. I think, like five percent asian men tend to have red green color blindness of some some varying degree right and if you have read green color blind us fear percent of people are gonna have mild and the other fifty percent are going to have it so severe that it will basically be protein. Opium do tutor in opium, which again means your cones Cisterna aren't functioning to stimulate one year Is it, but the reason why there's way more men than women think something like point five percent of the population in the? U S of women have color. Blindness is because is carried on the x chromosome,

right, senses, recessive men only having one x chromosome and they have a Y chromosome, which means that they're all of their color vision genes are just on their ex chromosome and since recessive. If that one gene is defective in that you don't have normal collar vision that the man's gonna have color blindness, but for a woman it takes to defective ex chromosomes genes right, that's right, so that makes it a sex linked recessive. It's kind of could be an ok album name. I know about a bad name, sex linked recessive sure, and I talked about diseases in conditions. Glaucoma is one diabetes, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Gimme a mass sickle cell alcoholism, if you literally during

yourself. Colorblind like that sounds like something made up. He does you and be able to detect the pink elephant anymore. Yeah is true, you say who's that grey of it and they say all elephants or grey drinking yourself. Color blind man That's not a ton weight on there's, also some. It should be for sure, there's also like some drugs. I can do it tee right. Yeah I didn't get to look into. These is much though, but that says digitalis incur queen yeah. The second one, the malaria treatment and the first one is a reckless heart treatment near, but I guess both of them can cause colorblind ass. The thing about color blindness, if its acquired, if its, if it some genetic, it's probably red green you're, probably a boy- and you probably caucasian boy, yes

clean us, but if it's acquired its likelier, that you're yellow blue color blind right yeah and that can actually get better if its acquired it can get worse, but it can also go away depending on say if you stop using the drug that is causing color blindness or maybe give up drinking right, but there is no cure for color blindness genetically. So you can't take a pill or get a shot or get any kind of treatment. There apparently arc corrective lenses that they have out there but I don't know about that. They didn't like a great idea, mature affected. Those are supposedly they'd like kind of work for color, but they also affect like depth perception to which is its kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul in that sense, maybe even worse than that

interesting, and I looked him up there. They don't seem to be any further along them in this article was written, but there's gene therapy is this hasn't been tested in humans, but it's been shown to work in a monkeys where they inject genetic material directly into the eye and hope for the best, but apparently works. Monkeys again same thing is what you are saying: how do you? How do you know? I hear you test for color blindness and animals is, I want to know its fascinating to the idea of a bit of another knows sure. Hopefully the right. So, let's take a break animal, come back and talk about living with color blindness. Chuck about that here.

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We're coded wires are worrying. Thought about that, but this probably pretty good point where I guess, if you may never for a bomb squad. Oh yeah, that's a good one. How did you like calling but sad ass to solve your meat inspector? You probably be colorblind, oh sure, looks at me ever hey, it's all gray. Instead, it's all good God and they had a. Similarly, if you have a red, color blindness, you can't tell whether sticks cooked her, not based on color and similarly you, if you have a green color blindness, you might have trouble with ripe fruit, whether fruits riper, not luckily anyway,

it knows what they're doing with a stake in the EU could be blindfolded, incautious, decorate, shirt and plus it. Even if you don't know what you're doing this meat thermometers that I have to do is gives like one sixty, I think, you're all right yeah, but I mean we ve talked enough about cooking stake in here sure it's it's time thing a temperature thing and at the very least you can touch it, and now it's gone on sure fit. If it gives your thumb frostbite- probably not done yet, because, if you're cooking estate by color, that means you're you're cutting into the state to see. If it's done right, which is the worst thing you could ever do, it gets the sin. Yeah I'm just am horrified at the whole notion I am to choke. That little kids get undressed in colouring. Crayons, that's why Koreans are labelled right, but I mean it.

You some names, they don't really mean anything to the color. That's not very helpful, you know, but are you? Have you have trans with the labels peeled off in your color blind? That's not good, I also saw a diamond appraisers, interesting casino dealers, chip colors, but now they have things like software. There can actually change colors on the web so that you can see them more clearly, depending on what kind of color Thus we have o interesting so that their you, I think it used to be like a real problem and then they came up with a lot of different software that you can buy into run on your computer, which that's gotta, help quite a bit: That in surprise me, if I mean I figured in the olden days, it was just like. Well sorry for you, but but now there are so many different things that they can do to try to help people out with various like slow

conditions like this for sure, and I think a lot of the worries were kind of over blown like the f ay ay used, it leads to say, like you have to have normal collar vision to be enough aim. Roy, and they repeal that ninety ninety six, because there are so many other ways you can design things other than colours right and that still a problem for it. I can tell like, with color blindness same light will be used on like an electronic thing to show its fully charged or to show it needs charging. Whereas if you just have a light blink to show that it needs charging that would help tremendously, rather than does using a green for fully charged and red fur needing charging help. Somebody with colorblind has given its looks like an ugly brown light to them

I never thought about that. A lot of things blink now that I've seen right and I'll bet. That's. Why? Actually, because its system better design here, not using different colored chalked for emphasis in school, using out for graphs rather than like just colors. You can also use like cross hatching or die, or something like that to indicate differences, and then the reason I say it seems like it, people are coming around the idea of it being unsafe to to be color blind in this world being overblown. Japan had a real like bias against people with color blindness. For many many years Yours, did you see the article? I said God and see that one man so back and I think nineteen twenty, the crown Prince Hirohito, was about to marry a woman, and it turned out that she had color blindness in her family and one

one of the royal family stepped up, and was I I know why I'm marrying this. This girl, because her family has color blindness in in her lineage, and the marriage went on anyway, but the publicity involved really got people's attention and a really took its heart and for decades up until a few years ago, there was discrimination against people we're colorblind, like you, could not in rule in some high school courses or college courses dip if you were tested Colorblind All kids were tested at a young age to see whether they were colorblind or not. You couldn't get some jobs and not even where it was conceivably safer, unsafe. It was just like discrimination against people who color blind

in some cases, people who were fully blind couldn't role in some courses that people who are colorblind could not. So there is no scientific basis to whatsoever. It was strictly like this kind of arm distaste for color blindness that had been in the car sure, since nineteen twenty is finally fading away, as as as time goes on, this up- testing kids in Japan in the last year to for color blindness, because they're like we understand better now and you're, not a monster for being colorblind. That's amazing in that interesting yeah, there's only should know then I should know so. Colorblind is Turkey got anything else? No! Well, actually that when the mentioning two bit that apparently people that are colorblind can pick out, camouflage better, oh yeah, because they look more texture than the actual color the I saw the third. They make better spotters, first, sniper teams, nice

guess so I would, by now you anything else. Their nationals through you. I know more about color blindness, go ask somebody who's colorblind sure they get organised, fascinating suffer you and we want to hear from color blind people too. So, please, let us know what it's like to live as somebody with a color vision, deficiency or color blindness, or let us know exactly what we should say panda since I said that several listen. I don't recall this little prices right, follow up. You just released live game, show live in Denver Colorado. Where we had a lot of our staff no army members travelling, and met each other for the first time, yes, critical, which is really really neat. We had a backstage hang

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