The people of Flint, MI were horrified to find their drinking water was poisoned with lead. As we learn more about lead's effects and realize how persistent it is, the more worrying it becomes. What makes lead so toxic?
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lead today. That's right. Do you know much about the year Flint Michigan lead, poisoning scandal that happened as a blemish.
Yeah a posted about our Facebook law a couple of months ago and thought it was a part of a lively discussion there, but I m only from that in it
research yeah same here I mean I was aware of that kind of. I didn't understand the details, but for those of you
you? Don't know about the Flint Michigan water poisoning? The Flemish again has faced a lot of problems
Sancho Industry Runaway, but one
wasn't pour water quality, they actually the people of Flint actually paid
I think the highest rate are among the highest rates in the country to get their water. No water was pumped from Lake Huron through Detroit and Flint bought their water from Detroit. Get that good cleaned.
What're, you know you're in a pickle when you buy more from Detroit and that's the healthy warrior, so their building a new pipeline from Lake Huron that goes around Detroit in Flint, said we're gonna get in on that action and treated or yellow were cancelling or contract rather than pay for a ship.
Term contract with Detroit the emergency manager, the basically than the emergency mare appointed by the governor himself here said, or just gonna happen to the Flint River. There, not a good idea, as it turned out
It's not because an flemish again there were, among other places something called a Buick city there. Buick city was a foreigner plus acre car manufacturing plant. Let me
buicks and dumb. It really heavily polluted the river so much so that
people in Flint, after just a few months of drinking this water from the tap started, losing their hair.
All right away. They said this looks and taste awful right its case of chlorine. The reason it tasted, of course, because there were equal- I break outbreaks here today
I d like treat the water with horror I hear, and then it also offered to some people it smelled like us so free as well. It look terrible but people certain losing hair, so he getting rashes here.
There there was one kid who had an auto immune disease already. He just stop growing there and it was. It was bad news, but the people have fled the Flint government in the Michigan Environmental Protection division
We said no were following all the laws, everything's
I'm with the water just go back to sleep. Flint inflicted something different. A bunch of them thought themselves, the science of like water and sanitation,
and with the drinking water laws, they became basically citizen scientists and they took it back to the flight government and the state government said you guys are wrong. This is toxic water and were being poison, and you have to
something about it may finally did why. I think the issue was don't play. Dumb
no, you know like right
you make an US, tell you exactly and they kept the apparently. The company line was no the here's the science here the here. The results of the tests, but the test
Airbus, and, if you want to know all about it, there's a really really great article on five thirty, eight dot com,
call what went wrong in flint and arm is really chronicles. Everything very well with the big problem with point is,
that there was chlorine in the water. It was that there were,
bunch of lead in the water and the reason why there
went to lead in the waters because there's lead pipes go into a lotta houses and Flint, and the water that was being pumped through those pipes, the so corrosive that is bringing a bunch of lead with it in poisoning this,
for four months and the reason people use, let him pipes is because it's not corrosive corrosive, they talk,
the water. What yeah exactly there really says. Something really does, and I guess we'll Lubeck later and talk about the lawsuits in alaska- sure that's a good idea. I think it's great idea can a book in it. But let's talk about let itself like. What's the problem with light, where I come from that
the whole idea of using lead. Pipes. Is nothing new either sexually? Pretty ought to tell you the truth,
yeah well, while the Romans of course were the first to do almost everything, either Asians or Romans sure
why dont know Africa. Mr submissively, everybody accepts that Europe has the migration
the end and exactly don't forget all the innovation going on a measure. America as well shut up.
When he came before us,
but it's been going on since ancient times Romans using where, as lead piping of her sewage
and carrying water even
water and containers lined with lead, and in fact this is pretty interesting. I think the english word for planning and the Chemical symbol p B that has led comes from the latin word, plum bomb now plum bombs that plumbers crack her nice. If it wasn't, it is officially now you know my friend Eddie here is young daughter asked him what plumbers crack. What's he uttered area and he says what you tell our unease.
You know folder when it was said. Sometimes farmers they bent over, like as pipes, are below you in sometimes your pants saga, little than you see there, but crack here and she went up. Ok now only
I take issue with, is the use of the word sometimes at other times. Other knows. A great explanation
so the latin plum bomb, which means led yeah, which there has been a serious to me for many decades p B, doesn't make any sense.
I would they call it be attainable. Ed, right and p B. Is your
the periodic table. In the reason you ll find out. The periodic table because lead is another,
a heavy metal and it has also to properties that make it very.
Terrible yeah, really unique to, although super super touch, it will find yeah. It's not often you can find something that is Super Matthew,
oft by also strong and dense, exactly which makes lead
a perfect for water pipes.
Also. It also resist corrosion. Like you said
can run more threatened as long as the waters not super bad, that the lead won't rust.
It will lead to lead into the water, but it still won't run straight right. So
it's also not very good
investing electricity, which makes led very useful for other things. Like I'm soldering electrical connections,
The electrical connection will remain the thing that transmit the current. The lead want. It's pretty awesome. Yeah did you say soldier soldier soldier, never heard of another way. How do you set solder, a soldier? You can say that EL there may be a sale unless its regional, naughty, regional, regional. To my brain think soldier,
you said that because you're from Toledo, so the use of the use of lead goes back. Even
for the Romans actually, but it first appeared mostly and are like lead paint, yeah
unlike gum, they describe.
Articles a novelty
and it was apparently it makes colors more vibrant and its less corrosive, which is why, still even in the United States, lead paint on ELM street signs, because this less corrosive does not really as what they say it still used on size.
Supposedly up until as recently as the nineties, and it may still be going on depending on the country that is produced in the ink on the
side of a plastic bread bag. Frequently have
lead in it or used to really, and it wasn't a problem unless somebody kept
red bag and turned it inside out to store food in then that food
the way out of the eight hour there was actually like a big
Ireland for a while,
I am not sure that it is anymore confined, thereby increasing the most recent thing ass. I was ninety ninety one saying that yet still happens right boy, it's less expensive is a paint which is another reason in the end, the colors and more vivid apparently
This has been an in the: U S for a while, but in China they said
use a lot of lead in paint and in two thousand
Then there are massive recalls for everything from DORA: the explorer toys to Sesame Street joys due to the fact that they have the lead paint on him in little kids, but everything in their mouths quitting their toy
as a big dummies and they end up eating lead, which is big problems, are those of massive recall of chinese products and ninety ninety seven, because it is the NOS two thousand and seven, but if they nanny
yeah. You harking back to the urban transport day. If he had, did you left him up, you mustn't out? I don't think there's two really!
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but none were in only three eleven could be slightly compared because they were kind of Iraq RAP Group, but they were dutch Urban NASCAR was
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This would have been so what are they talking about? Angela is urban death squad.
So lead paint in the United States is
while it still an issue in some ways, because older houses still have it but yeah as a nineteen. Seventy eight, they said no more get the light out, that's right and they
in it as any paint or surface voting that contains led equal.
Exceeding one milligrams per square centimeter. Yet so, basically in ninety
and you said if you're going to manufacture something for somebody's home, that people are generally gonna come in contact with most people don't come in contact with street signs the density of bright, then you can't have led in it by again any house built pre ninety seven year in there's plenty of a mountain.
Very likely has lead paint in it. It also probably has lead pipes
yeah and there's a lot of lead around us all over the place.
Places you wouldn't even think like there's lead, let it glass
I got no really like a glass. You, like you, might be using: u conceivably could be drinking led out of it? Oh, but you don't drink out a letter, glass, sure
the year, be they use it to make regular plain old
glass anymore like crystal it, gives it like a ping. When you were you tap it, it makes it the cult, the reflection alot sharper. It also lowers
melting point, so you know, if you put it in the oven, it doesn't like me right, but its conceivably bad for you,
you know who was on it long before the United States. Government federal government was the city of Baltimore.
And fifty one they banned, led pigment for interior paint. Very smart.
For their housing in since the fifties it had kind of been phased out in different parts of the country.
And then in eighteen, seventy one we finally get the federal lead, Poisoning Prevention ACT, and then it took seven years after that to fully then the paint the panes lead paint
there is another big source of lead that was all over the place in the twentieth century, and that was in Gasolene in cars. There is an additive in gasoline. There was added to
link called. I touch rather wide right here. You remember that, like you know, filled up with them
you're right or an or fully led his brain, and
the reason that they added led to gas is because there is a problem called knocking right where the high performance engine, when the gas entered the ignition chamber, the combustion chamber,
it may just get so apt up that it would combustible ignite before it was supposed to, and this would basically disrupt the move
the persistent dry cleaning it hanging, they knocked they paying. That did all sorts about the lead, kept the gas from combustion
igniting before it was meant to so it was a pretty great additive
thing is. We already knew that led was not good for you at the time when we are ready to gas anyway, and they were
Finally phased out in the seventies, starting
seventies. I should say because we,
started. Adding catalytic converters to our cars, yet
that, in just r r, the process of the chemical process of refining petroleum just advance
so we no longer needed it right. There wasn't a crummy gas. It was pretty good gas, it didn't need led yeah if you run Larry gas through a catalytic converter totalling messes up and the kettle
the camera borders there to prevent emissions, so you take later
gas, the problem
found found is that during these few decades, from like the twenties till actually ninety ninety six was the last
here you could have led in your gas in the United States year, ninety ninety six, that during this period
Basically, all cars on the road were spewing led led vapours into the atmosphere.
There were just go into the air and then come back into the ground and settle in the soil and water. In your face, yeah I had a use
the gas in my arm. I had to put it in my early, be w beetles that I drove oh yeah. Had a couple of old invented vintage the bottom new, oh yeah yeah, my mom. She bought a sixty a beetle brand new worsening. That's when I drove one item. Sixteen, while I think so around her yet
yeah nice out. In other things, they never die. If you take care of him, did you like every use, duct tape or anything like that on the whole, but I did funny you mentioned. I had a whole
visible hole in the rear floorboard here that that we, my friends, call the Flintstone scar. I can put your feet down and run as I did have a board a running board now,
for it over the whole, but I mean you can remove the board run while you're sitting in the back seat attract great car,
lead, has been added to cosmetics over the years
Jus jury potter
and then today, because everyone knows what is so such a jerk, one of the only place you can find in the? U S, at least as in your carbon,
your carbineer, your car battery or your laptop actually yet, which is why it is really important to recycle that car battery dont or that laptop, don't throw it in the woods yet responsibly, recycle your electronics and batteries
There's one thing that we ve learned since the twenty centuries that lead has some serious staying power and it is the very pesky tendency
out of wherever we put it right, yeah, yeah, feeble
in just a regular landfill. That's not designed to accept things like lead elderslie.
You knew the groundwater and the same thing with
e waste here. You're laptops and the reason that we there used in laptops is because the leg actually
tax you from the radiation. There would shoot out of your laptop screen into your face. Yet if it were for the toxic led him there, that's right, glass, cathode, ray tubes like you find in your computer,
laptop screen blog about your laptop with your computer. Your monitor this
it led in there. You should responsibly recycle your laptop to fishing for a number of reasons,
you did, I was called electronic recycling yellow. Is it like just a thought? Her? I'm not going
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Talk a lot about lead so far in essential areas and to lead us in Dutch, Rob rack rat rock band. Here let comes from the Eartha which was ticket under
yeah. It's not actually mean it is naturally occurring, but it doesnt naturally occurring it's pure form. Data dislike dig down, ok, there's they conquer led me, pull it out. Instead, lead Adams have, I think, for unprepared,
like Trans, maybe in its outer shell, so it likes to form connections with other thing
so when you find led in the earth, you're gonna find it in the form of a oxide or sulfide, or something like that, frequently its combined with silver, and so that means
It has to be separated, and even the Romans back in the day which, by the way, these roman lead pipes again used for bags in four sanitation and still intact today that you can still take those up and beat people with them. You could there so strong
the other place I'll find a lead. Pipe is in the hands of some. Do come an idea or a game of clue how he had it was bent. Even the guy was hit so hard with the current mustard. He was not to be trusted.
He was not. But yes, the Romans they had a pretty and man they're. So smart, they are pretty ingenious process I called.
Relation with the extent of that is basically the ideas that
some precious metals, I'm sorry, precious metals are precious metals, won't oxidize, but dumb metals will save you heed that junk up, it's gonna, separate right in that they use them mostly to separate from silver. But these days we get most of our lead from something called Galina
I led sulfide as found right yet our process a sort of similar. It is Harrison like using heat, the separate things, and this is actually a very much
to remember our waste gasification episode,
and remember which one this was. I hope TAT was there on time, because the process very similar, so you take some lead sulfide and you heated up in the air. So there's the presence of oxygen and converted into led oxide
Sulphur dioxide right here is separate, em out a little bit. Then you take,
let oxide in you egg carbon coke
you again mix it with some air and, as it happens, the error combines with the oxide into car or no the carbon combined with the air and becomes carbon dioxide takes up
the oxygen molecules from the lead items, so the lead. Basically, what amounts to pure led becomes more,
Ngos down to the bottom of the furnace in carbon dioxide, goes out into the atmosphere, sounds like a very safe process.
Basically creating molten lead in carbon dioxide yeah, that's called roasting in smelting. What's that lead sinks, cools down asking is called the pig is just a big mess, a lead basically yet like piggin yeah, it's it's
wishes, and then you have flag, which is the non metallic byproduct of this melting process here and now you
didn't call that down in its waste their waste product. Yes,
in what you said. Recycling your car batteries important because there's also process called secondary extra
where they get that led out of your battery rest, you can keep using exactly the other good thing about, let it is
stream re usable because again it has a lot of staying power.
So you can use led up right, which means you want to reuse it. Yes, we can
to the point where we don't need to mine anymore, lead or processed anymore, led just reuse lead, we ve got or maybe find some great substitute that isn't so talk that cannot be a meltdown,
tiny civil war, figurines, oh yeah
goes on those led sure. Ok, I thought they were
the handling and painting those, would lead paint this dangerous right. Yes, yes, yes,
It is that, where we're losing so many civil war figuring, but I think so at an alarming rate- that's why are they all have spit
in drool, around corners of their mouths and like zone out while their painting, while those are the reasons for that pressure, can
It's so ok, you mention
are? We mention led refining and processing smelting roasting, that kind of stuff right. It does create emissions of not just carbon diet.
Side, but also lead vapor, yet which is not good stuff, and you want to control that kind of stuff, but it is emitted in it.
To be what these days let emissions from refining and process.
Are actually the number one source of lead. Vapor
missions in the environment right by forty year about forty years ago. Forty five years ago, there was not the case. The case was all those cars driving around on the streets emitting led vapor.
Still account for about seventy eight percent. If it came from your automobile and since that the phasing out
in reversal, are we now fifty two percent coming from
the the processing and what is it down to our road sources? It served thirteen percent thirteen percent. You have your combustion yeah. Now that
No, not that still again, he basically want like zero refining like the as will see the light. Exposure in any amount is not good and it gets. It goes from not good to really bad. Very quickly,
apparently yeah. Now that you know, let us know good. We mention that kid's chewing on something with lead paint is not good. If you're redoing your house and its prey
eighteen. Seventy eight and I get a piece tested. You can't dispute
let me say off now that the pain
on this moulding now, because again, even if you think you ve clean it up their real, then there's led right there buddy here that you're not going to get rid of it, apparently
opening and closing your windows in a pre nineteen. Seventy eight house can create led dust. Yet if you're lucky enough to be able to open your windows, sure with it as a point
minor sealed shut your mail charter. What have you they're just from years of painting? Basically with probably let me guaranteed Now- has not actually we were tested. Oh did you
yeah. Let me- and it was at one hundred percent- lead paint for you
So they all the way through like yea
but what I'm saying is pre nineteen. Seventy eight is now I know it's the only thing that was used. I know you think, that's why you get attested right, but did you
like all the layers underneath tested well for any yeah. Ok, there
layers sounded like we hired a lead person. I gotta get good good. That makes you feel better yet and if you want to
if there is lead- and you want to get the let out- you're gonna have to hire someone that no
they're doing an area will come in with their hazmat sits on to do so right, so you can also get it from plumbing, although apparently with lead plumbing, if not quite as much of a threat, as you would
You know, then, that make you just want to like never drink water. Again, knowing that you have lead pipes in your house, you shouldn't necessarily be worried because over the years that water, sanitation experts have figured out that, if you have good water,
nine corrosive. It actually is not only non corrosive,
the water will leave behind a protective coding that coats, the inside of the pipes, runs through over the lead? Yes,
nice over whatever it is for you, gonna leave. A protective coat of other substances that are toxic. Goods cannot form a barrier,
for later water and the pipe threat, and so you should necessarily be freaked out. If you have,
lead pipes coming in your house, a row I mean it, you get the money is. There is definitely worse things. You could spend more money on them replacing those pipes. There lived a wet, copper,
pvc. Cool copper can be a problem as well. There is actually a copper led rule there that dictates how non corrosive cities water has to be right to follow this rule and its protecting that
in slow, but comprehend really want copper either of those not nearly every is less interesting. So
You have led in your system. Mina goes it doesn't your bloodstream with it
matter: how gets, in their view, inhale it it'll be absorbed,
the areas in the lungs into the blood or
few, if you'd be liquor, touch it. If you like it, it's gonna find its way into Europe
And you get em, it's really easy to find out. If you have led in your blood, you just get a blood test. I don't know why they would do this
I don't hear and not just a blood test unless it's like prohibitively expensive or something so there you have. The other test is called the zinc protein poor for him test and that's a by product of red blood cells is
breakdown in the presence of lead, so rather than directly testing and dining at either you're like going around to see, excuse me lead, I wanna see if your shadow yellow is detectable and I'll get it makes zero says you gotta check your boy for that too right and it's not as accurate yeah, doesn't make any sense there, but that the white blood.
As the so easy that numb companies like three m in plenty of others, cell home, led blood tests yeah it is nice, and why should I
who is freaked out, giving wonder your kid Lester,
anything over equal to or greater than five micrograms per deciliter is bad. If you're a kid you an adult, you can tolerate a little bit more, but it still distressing right in this house expressive from a microgram to deciliter, which is what a tenth of a leader right arm, and so five is not good. Ten micrograms in a deciliter is where demonstrable like behavioral and cognitive problem started to develop the other serious trouble, but the
he said that there is quote no demonstrated safe concentration of lead in blood like we shouldn't have any right. The problem is nothing but toxic to humans. There is no benefit yeah and we'll talk about. The second put the problem with lead is that we're figuring out that we shouldn't be exposed to it at all, while we're also simultaneously figuring out that we have a washed our planet in a year from the last like couple hundred years. Basically, there you'll take a break,
yeah. I will come back, we'll talk about the kinds of fun stuff.
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in four led in the body. It is nothing but toxic in it. The way it
behaves in your body in a negative way is really interesting. Your body, and this happens a lot. If you look, we covered the body mistaking something for something else, quite a bit there. There should be a word for that. The case of mistaken identity, but I guess it set up at the bar.
He treats levy calcium, so it's gonna go where calcium goes in the body, including your bones, which is super scary,
lead, settles in very comfortably into calcium receptors, and it's not just bones like that's what I always think of when I think of calcium you're going any calcium casual.
The breaking rickets, if you don't have it or whatever but calcium,
comes in handy throughout your whole body and one of the big places it shows up is
calcium icons in
your neural activity riot. So when you neurons fire one of the ways that they fire is
has the neurons you or the calcium I'll, get him all excited and do
your neurons is fired, if led, isn't that calcium eye on channel instead of calcium? That issue
happen and all of a sudden, your neurons are firing as much as they would. If the lead wasn't present, and now we have a big problem here and it's especially big problem.
With children because children's little brain
you know we talked about plasticity before their content,
forming these new of neural connections and any
kind of lead in a mistaken for calcium is gonna, disrupt those connections and so
your child is literally their brain, isn't
to advance like it should write exactly intellectually the apparently,
no centres like the amygdala can suffer the it's been found to produce hyperactivity, anti social behaviour, attention deficit disorder, all sorts of problems from the presence of lead right, and it, like you, said it worse for kids, because their brains are still developing informing it's bad for anybody, but it's definitely worse for kids. The other way that it affects kids, that so that the regions are their brains are developing correctly. But then, Simon
Lastly, calcium is also important in the formation of mile in which is that prison directive sheath around the synopsis between neuron. Yet so that's kind of like flimsy, which means it
neurons are firing efficiently. So not only do you have brain regions affected, but the communication between brain regions are affected to in little kids, and the upshot is: is there in promotes all sorts of problems,
with cognitive and an emotional and behavioral development in children. Yet, unlike
really lower iq source, and we should say this: let's just like the most prominent horrifying
where there is a whole laundry list of other things that can happen to, like I'm kidney failure.
Pain in your bones and joint from all that lead settling into where the calcium supposed to go near about decree sex, drive and sterility in infertility for both men and women. What else diarrhoea lack of appetite constipation, I think diary is the least
your worries. If you like Little Anthony high blood pressure enlarged heart, it is its effects, virtually every system
The reason why again is because it mimics or takes the place of calcium and calcium is incredibly vital. It's an extremely important mineral that you need
throughout your body and if a legacy of here instead a second and do the stuff to the calcium, specifically leading all this cascade of horror
problems here and one of the other scary things is it day. Unless you have acute lead, poisoning
You may not know, in fact you probably won't know that you're being slowly poisoned and you might think. Oh, I have diarrhea and I don't feel like having sex much anymore right and you might be slowly getting. Let boil
you were you just plain that on two main buffalo wings, but lead poisoning Shakespeare, both shirt,
you remember Vienna kid like lead. Pencils like it was a big scare like in the yet lead poisoning.
Get back to the pencil yeah. I remember that, but then I also remember learning that is actually graphite used in pencil. You wish,
should have a by our age David reason
oh yeah, how to sharpen a pencil Mary Higgins School. You want some pencils, you wrote a whole book and literally wrote the book on pencil sharpening yeah. I still have letter, I guess graphite somewhere,
and from when I was jabbed very deep with a pencil that broke off,
and had never left in. There still looks like little black freckle figure in prison and got shanks, and I can't find where is achieved and B. I see everything. Now it's a scratch your track, so we
about all the cognitive problems that can come about and behavioral in emotional disorders that can develop from Latin, and this is like study after study after study is found. This
So one of the big reasons why there been so many restrictions placed on lead exposure and
Recently, some people have, with some researchers, including a couple well at an economist I,
if an epidemiological have, can it taken their idea that lead can create all of these behavioral problems in any social behavioral problems and extrapolated to this idea that there is a big rock
eyes in the crime rate in the United States and actually around the world that followed about twenty years, the same trajectory of the use of lead and gasoline yeah super interest
article very controversial like when it can't, whilst still is but yeah, has very interesting
it's called led America's real criminal element is a mother Jones is written by Kevin Drama is one of the all time great working today,
and down? I think I mentioned it before, but I strongly encourage anybody. Doesn't it
matter of lead, the most boring thing in the world to you, girl read this article. You will just be riveted by it and Kevin John. Does a lot of heat, he does a very good job of keeping his extrapolations down as low as possible
although anybody can see by the evidence that he lays out there this. Is it pretty
here that lead as some sort of culprit in this, and it's been shot down in that there's. This idea that they, the science, is settled. I suspect it is the same mechanisms that force with climate than Isle of Sun. Settle science then prove anything,
If you look at all the studies associated with this year, the correlation between led use,
ethylene and therefore lead emissions in cargo and criminal activity and its decline again is as follows. It like twenty years
after the whole idea is that we
we started emitting led into the atmosphere. Kid started suffering these cognitive and antisocial behaviors.
And then about twenty years after these kids were born, deserted, actually carrying out criminal activity, we saw a tremendous rise in everything from like murdered or raped muggings that everything in the articles two longed it really go into
again, I strongly urge anybody go read it yet. The.
The backlash that I've seen on the article was it to me like. There was often scientists, mainly yeah
you haven't, they weren't pulling the notion. They said this. What this means is that there is a lot more investigation, but as much as you want, if you can't replicate it, it's still past
we're confirmation by us or just sure correlation and not causation like could be a host of other.
Is it went into that it could be encouraged to make. The same point is like you. There is also a rise in the use of vinyl albums that followed roughly the same
factory is well aware that you know I, of course it needs more study for sure
this this one scientists said what you really need to do is follow what he calls a cohort study when you, actually
our individual right along a long time line. There is just a tough study its a bit. It bears a lot of it to prove something like this. Just takes a lot more data than they have right and I think the guy-
things got Firestone. Who is yet? I wanna get our who wrote I'm they discover magazine blog and you know he gives kudos to drum who definitely deserves it. For
basically saying every time he says you know it's is it's so obvious
he carried out have to be honest with you. Now have your head in the sand or to deny this he does say that, yes, speaking scientifically, it does require more
study sooner interesting. Milk is a crime and in drum
I would add all over the world. He didn't go the United States- and I saw the same thing in Canada and us
in great Britain, and the Good NEWS is. If, if that is the case, then we should seek crime. Dropping for we have for ever.
But the problem is that it also should get us to do basically mean
The lead that isn't around
like in the soil and in the water and everywhere in people's houses and the dollar amounts that he estimated cost are pretty prohibitive, at least as far as like them
public will goes from right. Now, but who knows I mean if enough science has done on it and you get the scientific community vocally speaking about this, the maybe the public will will change you. If you do have lead poisoning, are you can get on met their suppression,
She called system. As you see I am here, I was beautiful. It's here that our supper, I like cancer,
It can reduce blood, lead there, of course, always side effects with every medication. And if you work, if you like, if there's been a disaster- and you get toxic lead in your body very quickly, they can you suddenly called Helen Keller.
Collation collation therapy and that's when they use a collating agent
among and try that unskilled lives easier.
I thought
Diane Mean TAT, church, ascetic acid, in advance
If you buy a true that, like super quick, I missed the last a button just a few letters off from Super qualified, realistic Shakespeare media. It looks like the alpha,
when its paper, but look I e that's what it's infused into the bloodstream and actually binds the basically says led you're coming with
He threw out get me out of your body right, but they use that when it's just an acute toxic, those that the persons been exposed to a kid been found to be poisoned with lead. Actually, from what I read, one of the best treatment that they'll they'll care, though the others have to, depending on how bad it is, but a really good, nutritious die
I'm giving the kid foods that are high and things like calcium and high in things like vitamin c that helped the body absorb calcium so that they can go displace lead here in the body, because you got lead and you got calcium fighting for the for the same place. Thing
calcium, in their it's gonna displaced? The Lebanon, hopefully leave the body introduced, are gone, gone home. That's gonna be hard on the kidney, so I don't hate you. I think if you have an acute lead, poisoning or serious lead poisoning. Is it's not good, but yeah, of course, would be hard on. The Kinnock is one of the things. The kidney failure then anemia exactly now lead is lead, is
invariably in the ground and groundwater, and then the soil around us and that's a problem because it sort of works its way up the food chain.
And a weird way, because what you have these tiny organisms, it gets in their body like plankton and microscopic plants and they die, and then other things eat that
their way. And then it s sort of like a bigger animals come along keep eating things he had such as humans. They suffer from led toxicity, other animals to even the small ones. So should we talk about, these went lost its little yeah and then it'll artists and hopefully yap with nine attacks against allotted
if it depends on who manufactured and so did some reading on the lawsuits right now, there's more than a dozen and probably growing, I'm sure
Furthermore, class action suits on behalf of tens of thousands of flint residents, and you know always look there chops when they hear stuff like this,
but there's some concerns. One is that the state
again is like the city is broke, so don't even bother
the state of Michigan, maybe and about to go. If you want to get a lot of money, but then they say that I'm just get pacts as long as the taxpayer,
a lot of experts in the legal world said it compensate
it is unlikely to begin with. As far as money goes because of something couple things one
called sovereign immunity, which basically means
I can say you know giving water the citizens is a core government function, so we're shielded legally from liability for doing that and properly. So I can't see us we're trying to give U water and the other thing is specific. Causation has proved so.
Not only do you have to prove that the lad came from that water and not like the lead pipes in your house or other like the lead paint in your walls, maybe has to come specifically from that Flint River water.
And you also have to prove that that directly led to the problem that your kid is having and not other things will be. One of the things I read was that
It is very possible that the lead came from the pipes in those people's houses, but that it still
on the provider of the water because they were supposed to be following corrosion protection technique
that they lied about following they weren't following I'm, so it got rid of that protective
holding that had been on the lead pipes before and was bringing
that led into people's homes directly, so it
have been led from the people's homes, but it was the corrosive nature of the
of all drinking water, that being pumped through those that cause that lead to be brought into the people's homes and then again, on top of it the
the government was lying about using the techniques that they were supposed to be using to prevent that from happening, so that now that they switch back over to Detroit yet water, it's gonna, take a while for that protective filled, the develop on the pipes again bright, so even now that the different waters coming through its still lousy with led. The sad thing is that some people in Flint
you poor to do anything about it. It s still need waters too, there's still drinking leaded water, even though they know that it's going to hurt them down the line, while in itself
That sounds like getting real. Compensation is maybe unlikely yeah, because a lot of these people who have kids like if their kids suffer severe
cognitive development problems? They really need help like the rest of their lives,
yeah, this one guy he's a law. Professor does,
rising in environment alone. In no aha, he says what the probably the smart thing to do. If you really want to help these people said, do what they
with the deepwater horizon spill and set up a victim's compensation fund. Instead of doing it, veal lawsuit, like legislate, legislated sure. Maybe that would help honour Nan honour their. He basically said what the state shouldn't do his fight. This he's like that, would be big trouble. He said they should set up some sort of fund, so then they look like the good guy, still
but then I think you don't get all the dirty details dragged out. Public yeah, like you, would, with, alas, loved apparently there already coming out anyway, like troves of emails and released the tat. The governor set up a task force.
Find out who is to blame and they turned around and they were like you and he sat by the tail.
Alright, exactly you're fired the item
it can happen, that is its very scary. Public healthcare flint. The talk about a city has been wrapped up over the years. I know what were there with you.
Hang in there. If you want to learn more about lead or fled for criminal activity, you
check out all these different articles on the internet- and you can type led never search bar- has the words that common opening up pretty great article, since I said pretty
articles typewriter listener
I'm gonna call this. Finland rules really did the dark money broadcast and I was like what's a good place, not remember, we are from a lot of people inside,
Maybe I'm an american living in Helsinki, the last four years with my finnish husband
fuck. You are right on the money when you sit, there is very little political corruption here for some, but because they are humans,
but the level compared to the states is laughable. When ass, my husband about it, you thought for a second asked about corruption scandals. He said a few years back
There was something about a prime minister accepted lumber from a company to tell this house that was, it seems
gotta be considering the states in an election year, and also the campaigns is much shorter. Uranus tunnel different party runs there at least five major parties, that's crazy and himself
a party runs in whichever gets a majority elects from its ranks the Prime minister and makes a cabinet.
Out of a coalition of the other parties which receive high numbers of boats about that. Like you came in second year,
or do and they all my pen, here's your participant. Ribbon. Campaigns are paid for by disclosed donations and public funds
a comment about the high taxes here, many
Usually Americans say that with the states that the taxes are so high,
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I don't really need another view of genes or in a jacket, but I need
to get a society around me and access to quality healthcare. They truly,
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