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It was this. Then you will have to fill the movie was watch. The last night sure did you yes, while it is basically I mean the pot makes sense, but it's like a fifteen plot they manage a lot of chasing in. Yet you're really draw out. There really gets it yeah, they drew it up, but the here behind, especially when we see nineteen eighty four hours eight- and I was this- is about a timer like I'm going to do to university study, Perry psychology. When I get older in your aid yeah, I didn't know college wasn't out eight. Definitely those in my will ass well So this was like right up my alley. Yeah now that I've, I watched it as a child. Like man who was an idiot when I was eight foot, it was pretty cool back. The special effects are like eighties Rafik, oh yes, they do not hold up now, but I mean, if you're a fan of Tron jeweller video drowned.

Yeah you're gonna love this movie, storing the great Michael Puree, yes and dumb rebel cops partner, Nancy Ellen she, whose one also she and famously she's in a bunch eighties movies yeah that was her big one though it was. She always like Co. Storing the female lead, I think, yeah don't think she was ever like the lead in a movie. They didn't make movies with female leads in the eighties. I can remember in this context a real I d say female, or should it be the girl? need to female eleven. They didn't make leads with about women as the lead in the eighties they're out there to prop up the dude Last other working girl. There was, in the eighties good point, ninety five three Ladys pickaback few and far between what I'm trying to lobby for gender equality in Hollywood

yeah. Well, you sure in your like no look at ninety five. There were some yea at your eighty. I agree with you. That I don't mean to argue you're right. It's view there are few and far between that's what you call a trap would have a barber Ella arrows Seventys was sixty sixtyth infinite. Well, just like the makers of the Philadelphia experiment, you and I know how to ya out a fifteen minute plot? Hey. I also want to point out Michael Parade disappeared in any in the cruisers owes it was here that he was Eddie was the was that they, some Bruce Springsteen

then like earth, if there was a basin any real life band now I mean it echoed he was. He was Springsteen, ask right, but it wasn't like you know. I think they were this. I think the riders like you do, I like, like Springsteen you're, so let's get junk everyday to sing like Springsteen and put Michael prey to lips. Think while better Eddie, that's that's ladys reflective and I saw John Cavity in concert in the eighties settle what else is here now he was the band. He was the real band John Cavity in the Beaver Brown band. Ok, they sang songs for real. I saw a concert

so. I am well aware that, and they now become the Zack Brown Bear that's right right who looks like no full circle full circle we just did it? Can we be done so that fill the experiment? I guess is right up Michael Perez Alley because echoed real life too. In a way it away you're. The makers went back and read a couple of books that purported to be nonfiction accounts of this incredible experiments carried out by the Navy so incredible and we should probably like sluts described, experiment to begin with right experiments. We should say yeah, that's true! This article gets a wrong here on house of work here. There are two separate thing. Both involving the destroyer ship called the USS Eldridge recently Commission summer of nineteen, forty three as when it began July. I think an what's up

Thirdly, happened was that there was the ship and there was a big secret Navy experiment that whose what's aim was to make the ship disappear. Yeah, not just two like radar, something like that. But if there is a guy with the periscope, he would look right past the ship because it had been made invisible, essentially envisage and then the story goes that that was successful. There was a successful experiment that was carried out yet peered in full view in broad daylight. From though, was it the Philadelphia shipyard yet and then reappeared those a big glow, then it reappeared and all the sailors aboard were in bad shape, so did that take place in July? It was that took place in July. Ok will ok, then it happened again. October. Within seconds fear, then they re, try the experiment, supposedly the ship disappeared and popped up in Virginia Norfolk. Virginia

Then then reappeared ten minutes prior, so Tom travelled back ten minutes and filled to Philadelphia. Again and again, the sailors were in bad shape, even by telling taken standards, that's impossible without any yeah and support, Lee these, this ship men were arm the men were were some were caught like in metal of the ship right, I'm crazed and crazy right. So basically the implication is that they had been. Some sort of Some fancy molecular early disintegrated, the along with the ship, and then when it was brought back together, the coordinates where maybe off slightly right, maybe the ship and the people. Where where they were ten minutes earlier right and things just when a little Why are like a perhaps on the Lido deck and my lower house on the were the other texts.

But the simile decade. Now, if the party deck the tangled tangled yeah and the the the and I'm still alive- and I also gone mad because my brain didn't configure back correctly either. Yes- and this was all possible thanks to Albert Einstein, working with the Navy yet and teaching them all a little tricks on how you can make ships disappear in time. Travel specifically, the theory is that, where the rumour that conjecture, the conspiracy theory, is that Albert Einstein figured out,

the unified field theory, which is not really did not basically the theory of everything now it first faded and for his whole life. There's this idea in physics that there's possibly one explanation for the behaviour of everything in the universe. Right now we ve got a pretty good theory. I think the theory especial relativity ties and three of the fundamental forces in the universe, but gravities this out

that can't be tied in through physics formulas and they think that there is some way of understanding things too, where everything ties together and, as I think, meteor cuckoo famously put it. He said that what what their searching for with a unified field theory is within a formula in inch long you'll, be able to re gods, mind tat the ideas that the answer came up with this unified the field theory again, not true, and there it was used to understand how to teleport things. So they use this understanding to carry out an experiment with a bunch of navies. On a destroyer in broad daylight, because you can, you can imagine the advantage to be able to make your ship invisible and not only that if you could figure out a teleport it like you, you done did no more war because you would win them all and there s the robot, just carrot: you're invisible feet. Yeah! You just

pop up behind your enemy. Put him in a full Nelson, umbilical people like you and that's it. Let him go and be like this right and you tell put out a there. You see how easy that could happen Nazi unified theory. It so the Philadelphia experiment never happened like that at least one will go ahead and not give any credence to the conspiracy theorist out there. Although will probably get of people that Imelda in oh man. This is this is like a nucleus of conspiracy theory. It ties in you. I found her ties in theoretical physics. Yet U S government, of course, YAP Jain Armas cover up eighty ties in all these different things really really interesting. If you go read this stuff, it's it's! It's to me! It's more interesting than just just UFO conspiracy. There you're, just government cover up conspiracy. Theory is like a clear

ass of conspiracy theories, all tied up in one package on the secret experiment that if you listen to the Navy's official line, never took place there never was a Philadelphia experiment right there never was. It was also known as project rainbow. There is never a project rainbow, I just didn't happen. The whole thing was made up out of whole cloth, apparently by a guy named Carlos. Am I end yeah and their work. There is a couple kinky details will go over why this thing is survived but later, but there are a few kinky details: not they make it believable, but that just have field the fire of the earth. Let's, let's take a break right. Your check, if I'm gonna blow over, excited, ok, just put

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I gave a majority on the end, all sound mysterious year, an oasis and they d So I nineteen fifty six I was gonna, get away back machine, but I think we should even bother for this now this actually for if there is no way back machine that right, so nineteen fifty six in. Time Ellen days it a letter and he would go send about fifty more letters to an author anymore. It's Jessup who wrote a book a year earlier called the case for the: U S: oh yes, which you can find on the park has paid for this episode. Yeah he's a, but he was an author. He psychology do that wrote a bunch of books. I mean well mean physiology. Yet I mean legit is in like he proved any science behind. You have a right right, but he was easily authored books for real. Yes, yours, printing manner. He wasn't is publishing manifestoes online. Any was a young consumers

Coralie minded investigator yet. But if you re like his writing, it was just nothing but conjecture church, nothing. There is nothing in it, but conjecture both ended, as fact and even says like these are. There are three basic proven facts about this and then here's more facts- and it's like these- are in fact at all is really fascinating stuff. Maybe he doesn't know what facts are. So he got these letters and in these letters at first they were some attacks on him. My from Alan saying you not talking about. You're, getting this unified field. Theory all wrong, and I know because Einstein spent several weeks with me eating the stuff himself here and not only that sounds like cuckoo pot rights. Crackpot right

he was saying like. I can prove that that unified field theory has been mastered by describing this experiment that took place in Philadelphia. Nineteen, forty three concerning one: U S, destroyer called the U S s! Eldridge! Yes, and he said I know this because I was there buddy. I was on a ship in the harbor and there were other ships in the harbor. That seems to be the only part. That's true yeah. I mean this is a place where a ship. Outfitted air. The issue of the summer and far here is the war at right. But he claimed that he was on one of these ships. He said I witnessed this in person I saw this green below. I saw this thing disappear. None that he did it some bank. He could see the field there was created by this, the sum There are many other grinned AMOS stuck his arm into it. He was that cliffs slough of movies write stuff of ninety navies.

Yeah, so he sends his letters and isn't like fifty of the injustice said you know it. Let me invest this a little bit because I'm a crackpot to get where you're coming from you. So Destruction and the right of I thank you for these. Let me look into this a little bit in. He basically gave up because the dude could produce he gasped and for some evidence Name's anything I had nothing, he didn't. He just said because the story and its fact- and he goes Carlos Andy who by then, I think it dropped a pseudonym right Carlisle and who knows, he might call himself big bird That point so he was in he was a very disturbed man, yeah, I'm Joe, but yet he he had mental problem. He did. But if you, if you research him and you research, even sceptics have the filter. Experiment like the stuff he was coming up with was really interesting. Stuff yeah he's good, look good writer, but he was

huge confabulate, voucher. So he's saying all this is in fact an hee hee hee thing I don't know what the data on other people's names or anything like that, but perhaps, if I were put under narco hypnosis I would remember other stuff, so you any drugs, and about this time, Jessup said them with three he had actually moved on, because apparently the government had directly addressed UFO rumours and no just didn't do that. I'm sorry! Another guy did felt who is interested in researching I Andy, but I'm sure Jessica's, like I gotta, get back to my serious, he had any of he did, but then something truly bizarre happened and this did happen. He got an knock on the door and to research. From the Office of Naval research who would have carrying out experiments like this year, Salary- hey, have you ever heard of a guy

Karla Sandy and you probably could have picked empty just above the floor, I would imagine so because I mean he's like it's all Julia and he said come in come in. Please have some tea at some opiates it was nineteen. Fifty seven at this point they said. You know what we gotta package a year ago and had a copy of your book, my friend the EU efforts and I was beginning to you if he was agitated very heavily by three people well by by three sets of ink and three types of handwriting by which were all clear? early from Karl Alan while they were two m cage Ecevit corresponded with Carlisle and for well over fifty letters right, he said: I'm not fooled. This guide, Jimmy J, am I who may have been an ailing, its Carl, Alan and Mister Eyre, Mister B or both Carl Island. There, all Carlisle and bite, regard

as to whether they were all one dude, the annotations at fascinated, these two Navy researchers enough that they are supposedly as far as the Office of Naval Research officially says they took it upon themselves and paid out of their own pockets, and I guess, took vacation time to go, find em k, Jessup yeah I haven't found. I saw a bunch of conflicting reports on that whether or not- and this is what conspiracy theory so point do then either it was official business or they did it on their own right either way. They say that that means something, and I explained away, as it was just something on their list that they eventually had to get to. That seems like a terrible explanation. I think this sounds like a real wrinkled historic, whether purposefully or it's just something that can't be

easily explained away- maybe it is, it was just these guys were really interested in, as maybe they were in the U S, first stuff, for whatever men it doesnt matter. The fact that those two guys showed up gives this thing legs for miles. You know I'd just awesome. Let that happen, because that has kept this thing alive. In part. Yet in the box came to them. I marked happy Easter, which sounds kind of funny and had weird punctuation and capitals all the marks of a madman bright by again, like the stuff he was saying was. Is it was his curiosity arising in these guys and they actually took and against supposedly paid for their own pocket? The annotated version of the case for you, efforts and published it with innovations they had a contractor, a military contractor called Vero technology. They think

and I M had then publish it would yet weird, especially if they are doing it on their own pocket. But of a hundred and twenty seven copies. Imagine didn't Cosette my I saw twenty five, even when they were like spiral bound, those any. I fancy. I read a lot of this and it some it's. You know it's like it's really out there, but I imagine if Europe is your phone Theseus, it might interest you I mean if you read more, just some stuff, it's out there too, well, meaning that with the invitation for Southern did, he ask can take get. The impression that I was hardly sandy. Stuff is even more out they are here. You get online its honour, there's pdf of it. If you wanna of Vera, why I bet supposedly there's a lot of forged copies, is well really can circulation. Yeah yeah. I have the same real powered. Someone take the time to forge a copy of the crackpot manifesto,

I think we must have already. I found myself so I'm just story ends just a couple of years later. He was down on his luck in you, get injured really badly in a car accident at a bad break up with his wife and he killed himself. He put a hose from US sauce into his window, and this is one of the other reasons that conspiracy theory. The time there's a suicide. Then there's the governments involved its prey. Easy to say he didn't kill himself. The government killed them right is made all the more specific suspicious, though, because a supposedly he that was the day that he was to meet a friend who he had said. He had told I've made a breakthrough in the failure of experiment case here and then all of a sudden the debt of a suicide near so that I mean that in the end, our guy, showing up at his door, definitely is kept this thing alive. It has.

Supposedly his friends came out, said now. He was deeply depressed and he had talked of suicide in the months before he committed suicide yeah. But then I'm sure conspiracy theories to say they paid them off land. Because people said you can. Let me Am I gonna do what I said and the Eldridge had a pretty it didn't go into like great things. It was sold to Greece or transfer degrees, in the ages Leon used and exercises an insult for scrap metal, Nike nineties. So no big deal with about right, bags. So I will take another one break here and will come back and we'll talk about what really happened in the Philadelphia shipyard that day here's. The thing

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They think, rather than to separate experiments, it usually July that they point to which they didn't this article to get on that particular day. The U S, Eldridge wasn't even in Philadelphia. Yet this is the I don't understand it was in Brooklyn near so. Here's the thing, this debt that revelation came out and ninety ninety nine we'll get to that in a minute. Prior to this there is a researcher he's an astrophysicist, a new followed. The same jack Jacques Valet. He was actually the inspiration for the you follow just Frenchmen character. In close, it comes at a third kind yet, and he was also like a venture capitalists, pretty sharp dude. He D had some unusual interests right, yes, but one of the things that he dedicated himself too was disproving the Philadelphia experiment, proving that it was hoped to escape the great

Yes, in some manner, he was a sceptic here, so he wrote a paper and arm in the paper. He invited people too to reach out to him if they had further information about the failure of experiment and as a result, allegedly he was contacted. In eighteen, ninety, four by a guy named Edward Dudgeon or Dudgeon Dudgeon, so little for more pleasant, indulge in a better friend called him. The dungeon yeah that neither so loud. So yeah, he responded. The paper was called anatomy of a hoax colon, the Philadelphia experiment. Fifty years or in the Journal of scientific exploration. Dudgeon got in touch and said you know. I was in the navy from forty two to forty five was on that boat. Am. I can explain what happened, which is pretty exciting here is that he was on the angstrom, which was there at the same.

Oh, I thought he was on the actual boat. Now he was an electrician on Angstrom guy. He said he was fully aware of all the electrical components on strong and on the elder, Jack assail Party together sharing Equally, there were directly comes here. Comes up later, so he we say heap. He base. We had a pat incompletely centre, and reasonable answer for every single part of the Philadelphia experiment. For example, part of the Philadelphia experiment legend is that a brawl broke out in a bar following experiment and two of the sailors on board. The Eldridge suddenly disappeared. They vanish yes well do Jean Valjean says I was one of those guys. I Action faked my age on my Elizabeth page paper. So I was under age and should be at a bar in the bar though the bartender took

on me and another under age student, shoot us out the back door and then pretended that she'd never seen us so they disappeared. They disappeared exactly at the backdoor another one. He says a lot. He explained the whole thing basically right again, There is no experiment like that, but they were doing something that might seem freaky to the uninitiated in those de gassing there that the ships, yet the time Germany, and I guess everyone else really in the name and the Navy's around the world. They had magnetic mine, see mines which would find your boat and you know who that's metal lemme go stick on that thing and blow up here and torpedoes that were magnetic seeking to yeah. They thought you know it lets come up. The way to make our ship poles,

our mental parts non magnetic to these two. These obstacles right, which is an established project I guess, earned establish. What's the word, I'm looking for process sure so closely project was a real thing, yet it's called de gassing and it basically either changes or gets rid of their magnetism. Something that was formerly magnetic like a ship, so it doesn't make it invisible know it. The radar or otherwise by it probably looks pretty weird right, so they rap the ships in hundreds and hundreds of metres of tape, and then ran a really high voltage electrical charge through it and supposed to leave. This would de magnetize the ships which really came in hand it, because at the time just outside of America's coastal waters was called the graveyard of the Atlantic, German, you both were running the show out there at this time yet and as we learn

did Nazis invade Florida? They sometimes were parked right off the coats, exactly so they were taken out or destroyers inner cruisers and our battleships. So this is this is a big deal to be able to do that kind of thing, although it in it was classified stuff experimentation in anything that has been proven before it was like every British de magnetizing, our battleship. Yeah they could had a big sign up said de gassing at work stand back. Yet there was no big supersecret thing right, but if you're Nazi don't read the sign the other thing that dudgeon addressed to us, that the concept that the Eldridge disappeared from the Philadelphia shipyard reappeared in Norfolk, an reappear back in Philadelphia. Well that happen, but it just went there and then came back right, but it didn't happen in light

five minutes or ten minutes and thirty seconds. But again he points out like if you are really, if you're just casually paying attention, you might have seen the the Eldridge in Philadelphia that night then noticed it was missing late at night and they notice it was back in the morning year, which would seem impossible, because that was supposedly a two day trip yeah is, including their back get round. Trip was two days up the up the coast, but apparently Navy had a canal that they use. I think the Delaware just pick canal that only the military could use and they can make their round trip and six hours he answered, in other words its easily explainable that it just simply, I keep once they sailed, but it's not sailing. I think they still call it that did it set sail much about it shipped out and took off ship back

in the regular amount of time, and it just became part of the lure near, and I mean you can even tack on a few hours there, apparently nor focus wherein they where they outfitted it with with the explosives and apparently they could loaded a battleship and for our here so even taken out count it still ten hours if it shipped out at eleven p M, which is what the Deuce says right did. Did you or doesn't he He says it shipped out of eleven? It still be backed by nine. I am so again if you just casually paying attention what seems pretty mysterious really took on legs over time, especially like a game telephone like any conspiracy theory sure, maybe there's recur the truth. It got exaggerated by some drunken sailors and then Bam get shrunk, bounded ten seconds through Teleport

an experiment. Well any sailors, the drunken sailors supposedly could have been overheard saying things like you. Another gonna make a ship disappear, the enemy invisible when in fact they were saying is they're going to make it more or less visible to these mines, got all twisted around, it wasn't literally invisible yeah, and so there were apparently tons of firm merchant seamen around the area as well. Yes, so again, this would have been classified stuff if there had been loosely lips which think ship they do In summary, it said like we're, gonna make it invisible. Like you said they were picked up on that be they were the ones who were this casually paying attention to the to the Eldridge. Here there and just seemed disappeared reappear. And there's a guy named Robert Gorman, and he

in nineteen eighty faint magazine article wrote about tracking down Carlos Andy Use from the same hometown. Not that he would already knew the guy's father. He just didn't realize that he was Carlos Andy's Father Carl Alan Father, your old man, Alan son, we're pretty nice and he managed to the family in a pretty good picture. The guy, but one of the things that he found was Karl Alan's merchant seamen papers. Yet so it's entirely possible. He was there on the time or if he wasn't there at the time he may have been may have known somebody who was there at the time I could totally cm. That's probably how we get the idea that took it up right. Ok, I believe all that yeah

all of this land squarely on the desk of Karl Alan, because no one, no one talked about the Philadelphia experimental. It was never. Those words were never put together until he his first letter to Morris, Jessup right Here's to have been the elderly fabricated by him, yeah and dumb after the movie came out. People started coming out of the woodwork this guy, including a dude name. Alfred biologic, is website. Oh yeah he's me something else He made a video called the Philadelphia experiment, part one crossroads of history and he claimed He was a physicist on board the Eldridge and he was part of that and not only that he says time travelled in nineteen forty We all the way to nineteen. Eighty three during the experiment to tell his story. The sun's Ex greenly close to the plot of the fish

experiment movie and ensure there is a little different in the move, He travels from nineteen forty three tonight in a four who always region like this is a fascinating website, but he put themselves squarely at the centre of the Philadelphia experiment, and he also says that he was part of the Monti project here with their sorted tied together. Somehow the oil should do that at some point. Somehow debunking things this guy. This guy wrote a book where it is basically made the stuff about a whole cloth near. He says that the book whether you take it is science factor science fiction you're in for a really great story, even those its briskly loaded with soft facts. This is the author and preface right. Yes, but basically it's this extension that, like the the fiddler fix them it was wildly successful and from that we learned all sorts of things like getting into extraterrestrials, being able

teleport everywhere, just doing all sorts of really interesting things. Basically anything you can possibly think of that. A conspiracy theories would enjoy crammed into this book and it's it's giving them a bit of. Gravitas by associating with the failure of experiment in some quarters, man some quarter that definitely gives, gravitas this green glow has been explained away by most people is maybe an electrical storm or saint almost fire. And it was just you know, maybe just another part of the story. The people took and ran with it, or maybe it was nothing at all. Ah, yes, it also could have been the Office of Naval Research put out a fact sheet on what they understand about the failure of experiment, and they said it's possible origin or the origin of that specifically was experiments with the. U S,

and later on after the war, in the fifties here where they tried to use a small generator that was higher power then the generator that was currently on board in it actually cause coronal discharge with a glow, get an said that no was injured. Known was a mess to into the ship. Now it was just a glow was created, which is what you would expect from a very strong electrical feel right yeah. So they think, possibly that combined with the DE gassing stuff there doing during world war, two came together and help the sledge and take off by what they say. Also, though, Emma was supported by the reunion of U S: S, Eldridge Sailors and ninety. Ninety nine is that even the guy who debunked and discredited everything that Karl Sandy said dudgeon he was full of it to guarantee because the U S S Eldridge, wasn't in.

Philadelphia. Then there was in Brooklyn here they got together in Atlantic City, and I read an article in this meeting and they had a good laugh and said that one of them and even has something about on his license plate to so people like ask him about it and if you haven't said they would put people's legs and say like. Oh, no, I disappeared, in my hand, was caught in the ship and then they would say None of this happened, but they said that there was in Brooklyn in the ship's log confirms that so am I I wasn't even in that shipyard that day at all right. So that's that's the only part round. Michael wait a minute: how could they completely invent that it was even in the shipyard? Why would they just use a ship that was there? because then I never gave it a little more credence if those at least a ship there, but that's what I'm saying like Carl Alan. He made up his saddle, he was the one you just came up with it from the beginning yeah, but Canada it seems a little weird that you didn't.

At all, about making it believable by picking a boat that was actually there was something he may have been there at the time. He may have known that the Eldridge was there and just fudged the date, because it can remember, because this is like twelve years later for thirteen years after the fact remains that memory right So maybe he just got the date wrong. Anything really did happen and then the owner would be like our bad experience. We tell imported arousing, please just get the day on, so we ve mentioned quite a few things here that why this his lived on through the years there that Jacques Valet Theorize is that You know any time you have a movie made about it or any kind of imagery It's a photo. The Loch Ness monster to follow the man talk monster people are gonna, have something physical. The point do and say: look I made this movie and that's when people started coming out

work was after the movie saying oh yeah. I was there. I remember that now, Michael Parade just reminded me as thing that happened. He also has my fate. On his website is there he met the purse. That he later realized was the actor Mark Hamel in Hawaii nineteen, fifty six, but more camel would have been five at the time. Did you see his little myself it? I dont. Have you eat he's a full grown adult interesting, what else the and the fact that it stood the federal government, of course, in the in the military. You know people gonna run with that stuff, which I mean that Military fault- I remember oh yeah sure they did secured experiments, still do tons of back and ninety ninety three some stuff that got declassified and really open people's eyes. The fact that the government in the military spare minute I'm on

informed and unwavering subjects, that's it in that in its ranks, but also in the general public. So yeah, it's totally. The idea that the military would do this with its own people on board, yet let's believable, probably the most believable part of the whole thing the greed and also just dumb, though Auburn Einstein in their throw in a secret scientific theories that have been proven and it's just a ripe for the pic and yet when it comes to conspiracies and the suicide of Course

Look we mentioned earlier that definitely doesn't help. It did not help the case any, but this is one that I have a hard time finding people that still believe this ah yeah, I think a lot of people. I kid are unaware of it. Even except for the movie. You know what else healthy kit legs. There is a book in nineteen, seventy nine and it was called the Philadelphia experiment, Colin Project invisibility, and it was reprinted in in excerpts in papers around the country as as fact, Ryan fiction in nineteen. Seventy nine does not help, doesn't help things. You know I personally,

with our conspiracy theories. At this hour I enjoy reading the stuff. I think it's fun and funny and interesting on up there aren't any that I really believe in, but am I do think it's funny when people get up all upon their hackles and right in that you know, that's been admitted as one of the stuff in its you know, you don't know, could any real. Well, that's the earthly Menem, I'm glad you both because they're like that, just being like knows he's not pass black stupid. Thinking stuff like that, it's like now, this is at the very least people using their imaginations.

Deciding in ways that I dont typically do so it is nice to come, can visit it and check it out and read it in a year, although I claim to have seen a ghost. So what do I know exactly, although I have to say probably the best excuse against this? There are two things to say just on its face. This isn't right one. This happened seventy years ago. If the military successfully transported battleship, we would know about teleportation bye, bye. Now they be doing it all over the place. Zactly. The second thing was a quote from Robert Gorman I who tracked down car island in that nineteen. Eighty fate magazine article he wrote if we are to believe Carl Alan are Naval Hierarchy, abandoned sanity and historical precedent by conducting in

chairman of enormous importance in broad daylight, using a badly needed destroyer escort vessel think that kind of sums it up nicely agreed but go forth and read about the Philadelphia experiment cause. It is interesting, stuff watch the movie apply, not Netflix knows only too. I think he looks at me yeah. I can't believe aid through it. I did I'm telling you like I mean I was working too. I had two like windows open by their. There was fine, that's fine! It's believable was tron, that's judges you see if you want to know more about the failure of the experiment, you have anything else right now, so you can take those words in his search bar how stuff works since Chuck said trot. The time for listener mail,

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