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This finishes at right.
Oh, I don't know about that. We ve done bigfoot. Loch Ness Monster Yeti, we
and done like gum, moth man, the trooper cover.
To recover the big owing to the cylinder matter, slender maids
more internet, folklore than anything
do that one or did we think about it, not do it the ladder of those two. If I remember correctly, I said it stinks or something here. If I remember correctly her my feet,
man. I think it was. I think we could.
Slender man. Now it was just so early on that it was very thin now. I think it would be more robust. It was slender heads
well today, were told by the unity which is not slender depending
which he eddie you're talking about Chuck it's either enormous and, like eight feet, tall covered in grave or white or maybe sometimes reddish, hair sure way.
Four hundred five hundred pounds easily near or actually it is kind of slender it could be.
They what amounts to a and a wild hippy. Basically a somebody who, like
a grub roots out of the ground and, let's out a squeeze,
cry every once in a while. Just two know that if they're alive and dumb there's really to competing versions of white,
Those of us in the western world would would think was the Yeti
but the one we are really talking about is the first one. What we also think of as the
formidable snow man at all. Happy rob
I use average like five somethin. I guess
my mom is a little shorter than me
it was not. He was not the here. Is that, though, the Yeti of Legend, as far as I know he could be down there,
Well, I don't know who just sounded an awful lot. Like him, candid tested,
yet you open in the mountains grubbin for routes yeah
burden in dirt and with wild crazy hair. So I think we should do so
like. If you don't know what we're talking about. This is the
the legendary bees that lives.
In Asia
yeah I'll run the Himalayas typically near soda
its known as Asia's Bigfoot or maybe Bigfoot is known as North America Yeti Otto. Now I guess yet. He came first right.
Yeah. I think yet he's been around with the sharper of Tibet for a very long time
and that sort of the deal of this the origin story,
this thing is the Yeti has been told
for many many years in traditional stories in that area. Does
There was someone name she
duck. All that collected a bunch of these stories in a book called for
sales of sharper and Yeti and
all of them can figure the same
way, which was whether its story called the annihilation of the yeti.
In which this is pretty good. It's about sherpas, seeking revenge on a torment.
Group of yet is the sounds like something that should be,
like this. I, via gentle I'd, be very surprised if it was
but all these stories basically had the same moral message
and which is becoming a sort of
get Grimm's fairytale. I could be careful out on the would actually yeah exactly. I think of it serves the exact same purpose to like in the grooms fairytales, and I thought the same thing
Oh there's witches that living candy houses, so don't go wandering off from the woods. Kids cause you'll end up getting eaten for a little kids in Tibet.
Was don't wander off end the Tibetan Plateau or the Yeti will
to an dual all sorts of terrible things will happen to you, which is funny, because there are all sorts of real things that could kill you and the Tibetan Plateau
Well, that's what I think what they were saying was. You know sure he cared to speak like look out for the bear. You can't cannot be like
No, no! I can see a branch kid be. Unlike the bare everybody knows, what a bear is all rustle of bearing a day the wheat there, maybe and then-
along the way it gets into a drinking contest with Marian from Indiana Jones. Oh yeah historian, you right right exactly. That was one of the best scenes in the history of film here yeah, I think so, and tibetan kids.
And I agree with me to vote before we move on. I want to say one thing: the annihilation of the eighty keep keep that in mind.
Ask your mind story. Was there like they're a bunch of Yeti there,
were hanging around and the sharper were sick of I'm hanging around. So this ship, a basically through a Yeti Party younger,
drunk and fought with each other to provide an example to the Yeti, hey, you should get drunk and fight with each other
in the hopes of the Yeti would destroy each other. It didn't work in the Yeti all managed to escape, except for one who is supposedly
killed by a Allama one of the buddhist monks in the
area, that's part of the story that the and that's the United
in the area story. I did know Lama figured it
it really annihilation is kind of a strong word if you think about it, because if you just kill born out of, I think
two hundred and forty Eddie
hardly annihilation. Let's get, I think so too
So throughout history, these legislative been pervasive.
Region, so much so that a supposedly
great Alexander or Alexander, the great virtue. I did that
when he came through town and conquered the Indus Valley. He said
I'd like to see a one idea of famous a year, these,
I don't know if that's what Alexander the great sounded like. No no
the ancient roman sound like
if not in terms of Anti Roma. Thank you is greek. Was he now her she's
How about a really screwed up ever say yeah! I knew that
through a german access. I just saw him on this. Gonna leave. Hank, hang a tight chuck rebound
yeah, fine it. Why did I think he was roman and that Greek at all, because the Romans like to pretend they were Greek themselves and not fire?
all cylinders but regard.
Of my bad exit- or maybe I should just at it back in and say that- was my greek exit agar
he said I want to see a jedi.
And they the locals local zero. Like you know, we totally would do that. However,
that you can't get him down this low and you'd have
I really hope and those mountains- and I know you're not down with that so sorry yeah, exactly
I guess Alexander the great was like I'm bored. I can't believe you're still talking about this gimme some wine. Yet pretty guiding drinking contest, and that was that so
the yet it continued on in Eden, sharper tradition and in Tibet. Nepal in Bhutan Bite in the west, it kind of disappeared from view until the twentieth century, and so remember these are tall tales tat, the the sharper teach their kids, although there is supposedly some, I guess, general belief as well, but I can't I can't quite penetrated by just imagine that it was too strictly tall tales and get it sure people told their key
aids. Then westerners came in and said what is this? You talk about. Tell us about this and just bought the whole thing hook line in sinker, yet things really took form in nineteen, twenty one, there's a journalist, name, Henry Newman,
He did an interview with some british explorers and this is a time of great exploration.
Actually from the British. These sort of these, I guess
Indiana Jones, like mountaineers, who would go all over the world in search of these in our job,
those in mountains in search of crazy, beast and entrenched
and things like that Reiser. So
He interviewed some of these guys and they said you know what
We found these huge footprints up in the mountains and the locals
ere. I guess chopper said his wooden chopper, the plural sharper did mean undermine I'm pretty sure, yeah
That was a good episode by the way everyone it was go back and listen to them,
What was the title warm friendly living yeah? I guess
quite tendering than all day said so great ass. They said that
they are guides are sharper guides called them a meter con me
Which the translation, the real translation, is little awkward
man bear Snow Man, but Newman
infused all that he got this
in part right. He trains
that. First part to mean NATO in each year
age demean. Filthy, your dirty,
he changed that on his own to the world,
abominable right and that's where we get
the abominable snowman yeah. Here's like I don't like
the snow man, I'm gonna change. The name that have our,
begun wrong. Repayments are needed
abominable stormy release, is great journalist, but is fascinating that you can trace it back to this one dummy yeah, that's the whole
that were abominable snow man. That's where it came from. Was this one guy and that obviously just completely captured the attention of the rest of the world when he peeped. He wrote this because, like
This was not just like they heard about an abominable snow man. It was these Gillies explores found tracks and their sharp guides told them
MAX belong to this abominable, so man. Therefore,
their abominable snow men living
the Himalayas and the explorer who was who lead that particular expedition was Charles Howard, berry
Howard hyphen bury be you are why and dumb up?
only he and new men were really big into promoting the idea of bombing
the snow man or men living in the Himalayas, and it that had just been like this giant huge cuts,
through a shaggy, haired very much kinda bigfoot, but if you look at they did, they need descriptions. The trip
descriptions of the yet either there much smaller and
nearly is huge, as the westerners
kind of immediately made out to be
yeah. There was one description, one of the earlier written descriptions from nineteen forty two. There was a researcher name MIRA, Shaggily
I believe that she,
This information from two hikers that reported seeing the Yeti Right- and this is what they said. The height was not much less than eight feet so tall for sure, but it's not like it was ten feet. Tall
the head were the heads has, or two of them were described as square
I in the ears, must lie close to the skull because there was no projection from the silhouette against the snow on the shore.
Their slope slowly down to a powerful just covered by
the brown hair, which formed a close body, fur mix with long straight hairs,
hanging downward.
About the size and build up a small man they had covered with long here, but the face and shit
not very Harriet all did this. This all sounds like they did.
Always describe him is, or it is by penal right
mean seen walking upright right, but if you,
go back and look at that. Nineteen. Forty two description and how detailed
was there those hikers who gave the description said that they they saw. They saw all this from observing two black specks.
Moving across the snow about a quarter mile below them, and yet they can see that it headed a thick under code in like a very long hurry. Now, as reddish like that's just just basically perfect about
Annabelle Snow Man citing yeah yeah agreed by, but it
one of like many like after, after that, how
Berry Expedition came back in and Newman broadcast to the world. People thirty go
to the Himalayas in droves. They were just necessarily looking for the abominable summit Everest. Was there
and everybody knew every was there and a lot of people wanted to be. The first went to summit Everest other first westerner, I should say tat
Mt Everest so that, while a lot of them were in the area, they like all look through the abominable snowman, while we're here to yeah and simple,
legendary mountaineers and grand
these are not like zoologist,
anything, but their respected men in their field p.
Like Reinhold Messner in,
Sir Edmund Hilary both searched.
For evidence of the Eddie while they were hiking
Nor even wrote a book called my quest for the year
confronting the Himalayas deepest mystery right, but am it well, we will save the big reveal till the end right or the third act of this show. Ok, they're, third act, yeah, there's gotta be ok,
we're in big trouble. If there's not well, what are we take a break and then we'll come back and talk a little bit about a couple more of these reported sightings. Let's do it
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petitions that are going to Everest
this hanging around the Himalayas and then I think in nineteen fifty one
The really big happened in one of those explores Eric shipped in took a photograph of a track that, to this day, looks pretty remarkable, actually, yeah Venus.
Again, it's not like hard evidence, but this is a very famous photo. I remember seeing this when I was a kid and like I guess it's probably the Guinness Ripple
believe it or not or something it was time life books for me was it.
Yeah yeah me remember that its very famous picture of a like a pig because you know pickaxe their use for scale yeah.
Next to it known? Remember that very distinctly? When I saw this pictures like oh yeah at them,
You look at it. You like waited, doesn't look quite right. That's a really weird trap.
Gets. It looks like in a long gated human foot, but rather than a left toe it's it's got it's kind of bulbous
weird. It doesn't look like the other toes and it certainly doesn't look like what a human toe should look like, and it's also cute to think it was
measured about thirteen inches, which is a pretty typical
size for a Yeti track from what I endorse.
And over the ages. But the thing about it is: it is a nice crisp, fresh
track, and the other thing about- and this is what really captured the attention of the world Eric shipped In- was not known to be
It particularly fraudulent person right. He was in a very respected exe.
Or an mountaineer. He knew the area well and
the guy who has checked deity his whole life, my boy
His name is Daniel Taylor. You Daniel Taylor, put it if a ship is coming back with a picture of a track. You just you know it's a real track. It's not fake does not a hoax.
So the question was what was it, and this is nineteen? Fifty one anyway,
hit the world that picture that track at the world, like the surgeons photo of the Loch Ness Monster hit the world it back in nineteen thirty three in a just became like
proof to people who believe in the Yeti around the world that the Yeti definitely exists.
Yeah me like you said it was really what what made a difference.
Than other photos that it was so sharp is a really good picture
and that that little toe thing basically looked like a thumb and it just you know it looks
but this this Daniel Taylor Guy, he actually
the third reading that article I thought boy, this crackpot Betty,
I actually turn out to be a pretty cool guy. Is he spent a lot of his
looking for the Eddie?
whenever there even met with the king of Nepal and the king in Nepal said well. If you want to go like to the while this place and the most
remote place and in our land go to bed
soon be a r? U Endless Barone Valley right and
He went there and he looked around and
He did
not find a yeti, but what he did do was ended up helping to
work towards conservation of that area, which was kind of a nice silver,
I to his story was he got there and he was like this is one of the most
careful places on earth and one
Greatest wilderness wildernesses. I've ever been to hear
as it was in protected and that
chinese log,
these were infringing on one side and
Farmers were infringing on the other, so he kind of responded
like good work, doing conservation work in that area which is gonna, go get it.
Into in national Park in Nepal, yet
acted area now, which is significant. Have you seen pictures of the valley area its astounding? Its work must be.
Four places I've ever seen in my life and it was his being used because
the people living there like well. We need this land yeah, it's beautiful, but we can't afford to preserve it
because a lot of people around here live on fifteen dollars a year right, so they were just making
use of it. However, they could- and he came
with the governments. Shutdown done no more that get out of here. This is protected now, but it is gorgeous in his
His he had actually been raised. Their Daniel tailors, grandparents were missionaries in the Himalayas and his parents can it took over his grandparents work
so he was raised in the Himalayas, so we've been looking looking for the eddies whole life. But what are you
the bar room. He feels like he found the answer to that track, that it was a kind of tree bear right, but there's
There is a big problem with that: the Beirut Valley is it a sub tropical rain forest so a tree,
living in their wooden survive very, very well.
In the snow, the Tibet Tibetan Plateau. You know
a ten thousand or more feet higher up the mountain, so it doesn't really solve the mystery. Much
No, but his notion that it could have been a tree bear makes a little more sense with these tracks, because a tree bear does have hubbub
I don't know if you call it a thumb, but some sort of a possible digit to make climbing easier, and I will,
that would at least explain this weird fun like thing in these prints. It would
those garlic half of the thing explain the other half is what the heck was that tree bills, though the sub tropical rainforest tree, bear doing up
in the mountains of the Himalayas. You know them Sandia again the snow,
of the snow line. I guess what I'm trying to say, but the other thing
bout that that shipped in photo that became world famous for the area. Was that, like the track itself?
was very crisp and there's a guy named Benjamin Radford, whose a sceptic who has written a lot about the Eddie and in particular how how difficult obtaining Yeti tracks could be or actually more to the point.
How easy it would be to confuse the normal animals tracks yellower, something weird because of the fact that the snow.
This is a terrible medium for tracks because, like I say
bear walks through an area Leeson tracks in the snow the next morning, as the sun comes up in it hits the tracks and Ich shoots all that he'd onto this under there
track. It starts to melt the sides, maybe elongated may be make the toes looks, blade and ages does
resemble a bare track any more at all. It looks like something weird and and in not previous
no know like an entirely new species. That's the thing about this shift in photograph that caught captured everyone's attention. It
Look like that at all: it look sharp knew it doesn't look melt,
it all the edges or clean and crisp, that's where I think really kind of struck everybody
it wasn't like a melted, mangled track. It was like a new tracked by something that was not
immediately identifiable beer for sure
There have been other photographs it through the years as in supposing
evidence in nineteen. Eighty six hiker
Anthony Woolridge
said, there's a yet
over there he's about five hundred feet away and he saw but your tracks in the snow that look like that was going that way, and he took some folks
graphs there were proven genuine, but I think by genuine that just means they weren't fake yeah. That's what
As I understand it, because wasn't this the photo that they said actually those who just rocks standing up yeah.
Rock outcropping or whatever. Yet
sky was also respected. Mountaineering explore
and knew their area really well, and so, when he came,
with this photo, and they said this photo wasn't faked, it's not been doktor right people, people listen to him to buy it just turns out here
wrong. This vote, it rocks, has not been doctored exactly. That's that's, ultimately what they were saying, because another expedition went back to the same spot the next year or like oh yeah. That's that's those rights
over there and even even in his account that guy was
they would ridge, yeah Woodruff says, like gather, just stood there, motionless,
Larry Gabby, like rocks yeah
There is still is at all: they re borders, but the other thing is he swore that there were tracks leading up to it. So right you seem to think
that they really were, thereby from what I understand he was earnest in in his report. It wasn't like a fraud or a hoax or anything like that, and I think he was a little a little red for
afterward, probably yet even made a movie about it called earnest. Gus hiking Ernest saves Christmas with the abominable snowman Albert Earnest did save Christmas in Mine movie. I guarantee there's a movie collar innocence Christmas.
I think there was right now, the only one I'm a hundred percent sure of his earnest goes to camp. I never saw any of those. My family, Sir
the movie in theatre, the top dollar. We set this top dollar, which was
three dollars yeah. I guess I hope so at the time at which is
pricing, because my mom, you sneak in bulk candy from like the store across the way from the movie theater and Southwick more
we know that move in our very works works really well, so
over the years there have been not only things like a look footprints or hey. Look at that rock across the valley there there have been
I don't call evidence but alleged evidence brought forward by legitimate scientists
and people likes her admin Hilary like he brought back his scalp and said he didn't say I scalped the yeti, but he said he. I think this is a.
Scalp Hague, gathered round him of all anyone. There was he
no, no! He was supposedly kind of casual believer in it. He been sent on a Yeti expedition by New Worlds Encyclopedia years before, and he came back with a a Yeti skull cap that he
from a monastery in Nepal? They had a Yeti skull cap and a half
and a Yeti hand mummified Jedi hand and what's crazies, the Yeti Skull cap was supposedly these these scalp of the one yet
that had been killed during the annihilation of Bulgaria. Sorry, I didn't know he he brings back. I think
isn't that he was gullible, and I also am sure it wasn't there. It was. He was a huckster, he was
the kind of scientific person who kept his mind.
Open until the evidence was in man. Can you imagine a time when, in encyclopedia company
We send Sir Edmund Hilary out on assignment like how great is that I know,
there was the mid twentieth century was a great great time to be alive in the way,
of wondering curiosity, he comes back with
scalp and it turns out they did a little research and
was a unanimous,
zero, it's gonna get goat. You have some poor surrogate scalp,
But that happened a lot like there was this finger, and this is a pretty good story. The actor Jimmy Stuart, believing
Not was involved in smuggling out suppose it Yeti finger
from from again from a monastery. I believe it might have been the same monastery yet and when he just on vacation there and just got sort of mixed up in this plan,
yeah? We gotta mentioned Tom Slick, the oil man yak? Has he
Here's into this story. He was a bridge
guy who he was one of these? Did this sort of adventuring rich guys
it was, I am a jetty hunter for this year.
And wind, when you say Hunter like he was a hunter, his entire,
we too finding the idea was to shoot and kill it yeah and to take it back and have it stuffed and on the other,
men. Nepal had a real problem with that and basically said your expedition is, is banned. Nobody can
Many are and kill the Yeti and apparently the U S, stay department got in touch with
Paul and said hey by the way we have. The same feeling we we have APOLLO
if not killing, Yeti, either so
apparently with that Tom Slicks, expedition
allow back in on the basis that they would never try to kill the Yeti except in self defense. Ok,.
And I guess later on, when he became interested in big foot, he had a change of heart and he stopped decide. He stopped hunting to kill inserted Hunter
just to fine, maybe capture on photograph, and that was it and that his change of heart changed the way that big foot is search,
for to this day, and the Yeti now really have much more yes, much more peaceful search it. He was like the last
still, the big game hunters involved
like trying to find on ice.
Fight animals agenda to kill him, so they could be stuffed and kept the National geographic society or something
Yeah I mean- and that was a big thing- that I'm Daniels Guy talks about just these legends in history and how court unquote science back then
as in the victorian age were, were because he now these tests,
of Tarzan and these fantastic beast people would just these rich people would go into the jungle and search for
animals that no one had ever seen before, so they could shoot and kill them and bring them back and say. Look at this weird thing!
right, and I mean a lot of people like. Don't really like you be appointed
those who are out there like doing the hunting in killing in the exploitation and all of that, but they were very frequently working at the behest of museums, sure who
A very long time got a pass, even though they were the source of the those expeditions in the funders of those expeditions and the reason people out there in the first place was to go, get specimens for the museums collection,
ostensibly to study or whatever, but it was to study them dead and I think, probably because
There was a really any reliable way to ship alive, specimen back in a lot of ways, but also their there was so that I think the Tom Slate color represented the the,
that end the beginning of the new, this new era of much more peaceful exploration, and
Petitions, yea and Onawandah leave everyone hanging on Jimmy Stuart. He was really you. Son vacation link in Calcutta got mixed up in this than this Yeti finger.
Help smuggler back, and they finally did dna testing about seminary,
years ago, and they said oh, this is a human finger,
but I mean for a while there, they weren't a hundred percent sure- and I guess Tom Slick was friends- had a common friend with Jimmy Stewart.
MR happened to be in India, and so Tom Slicks agents in Nepal managed to get this finger to Jimmy Stuart, who agreed to smuggle it out.
Basis that Jimmy Stewards Luggage is not going to get searched and Jimmy Sewer smuggled
yet a finger out of India and to the UK for it to be studied.
With Jimmy Stuart and Jimmy Stuart happened to be in India, and so Tom Slicks agents in Nepal managed to get this finger to Jimmy Stuart, who agreed to
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The Loch Ness episode, the Loch Ness monster of a certain. We talked about how there's like a new search going on where their sampling, the lock itself in examining it for DNA, appear
check your member in the likeness episode the Loch Ness Monster episode near. We talked about how there's like it.
A new search going on where their sampling, the lock itself in examining it for DNA. Apparently,
applying modern genetics in genetic analysis to crypto. Zoology is like the next check
and rather than saying like out. Well, let's have, for us are our big free
It is over with crypt as you all just like awesome good. We finally have
tools now to find out to get to the bottom of this stuff and actually discover new.
New specimens are new species, so there seem to be quiet
about in quite excited, although there there a lot of their beliefs,
hanging in the balance and could this be have the legs cut out from under him by science? That's true! So, science winds in two thousand and thirteen
the geneticists at Oxford Name, Brian Sykes, who said
yet he holder
of Yeti pieces.
Send them to me. Do you have any Yeti Hair Yeti teeth?
did you send it doctor
university.
And he got it. You got fifty seven samples. They picked thirty six of those two
Do some dna analysis on and most of these turned out
the animals that we all know like bears, and cows and horses
at the time, though, the he found a couple of samples from
return in India that he said,
were a hundred percent match for job bones of a polar bear from the pleistocene era. Yet in this kind of excited people,
because this may have been. I mean not the yeti, but this may
and sort of a combination of hybrid, of the polar Bear in a brown bear is. This is
they were diverging genetically and that in itself would be
go find.
Yeah yeah. It would be a new type of bear that was a direct descended from bears that went extinct,
forty thousand years ago and it be a type of polar bear. Late there
polar bears in the Himalayas, is black bears? His brown bears, assimilation bears tree bears, but there's a polar bear so, and the fact that, like the he accidently found this by putting out this call for firms
samples of Yeti or Bigfoot or whoever it just made it all the all the sweeter they like he had just accidently discovered
type of polar bear living in the Himalayas habit. Sadly,
It was not even the case, some more
I just came along later. They did re analysis.
And I think what they landed on was you know it
Fortunately, these, I think,
getting a bad reading because of a damage sample.
These really are are just brown bears their brown bears
some other people followed out because it is not like there was any kind, a hoax or any dynamic. That white
white gray. His last name is white. Sykes Sykes sites is like a leading expert on
analyzing might account real DNA wrote the book the seven dollars of Eve, which can introduce the world to genetic analysis to an empty dna, but he just made a mistake or leaped to a conclusion. I think is the the pot, the thing that everyone's b
too polite to two maybe say by heat. He shared all of his data Jen Bank, which is huge database and other people came.
And analyzing said now. It's just regular bears
then other people analyzed insidious totally just regular
regular brown bears that we already know about dear, but that it science at least was getting involved. An scientists can around. They were like you know what this is great, because we're using
real science. Finally, and regardless of what result we get
like we're doing it the right way, and that's really kind of the thing that counts, like don't write, don't be disappointed. There,
finding the yeti, because and if it's not clear
to everyone listening, it seems like the Yeti or are almost always just bears. Yes, that not just the the the said like tissue samples or the fecal samples of the hair samples, but also the tracks, the site
things all of it. Probably just Himalayan bears Brown bears and black bears and that's actually
pinion of Reinhold Messner, who actually
such a mountaineer around area. He has a museum
in the mountains and his one of his.
These samples were one of the ones that Sykes analyzed his turned out to be the tooth of a dog. But he says that doesn't surprise me because I think they're all bears, I think, all of his bears, including his own, citing he became infatuated with
searching for the Yeti because he spotted something in the Himalayas. They couldn't explain and then
Rizzo methodical research. He wrote a book about it. He talked other people about it. He did his own studies and he kept
mind open and his mind became converted to its all bears yeah pretty much. The Russians got involved, you there
oh and might like the nineteen sixties.
Now they get involved about eight years ago and went searching for
the Yeti in Siberia and
they came back with where things like a look at this these twisted tree
inches were made into beds, are sleeping pills
by the Yeti, and they twisted these branches and look at this its evidence? But it turns out that they
Clearly, man made there were two made cuts
and they were located and not in a remote area at all and what they re
a trail and great yeah, and what people think is. They just cut the stuff up to try and bring tourism to not very tourist, really area, right, Siberia
like they, then apparently there's a longstanding tradition among Russians in former Soviet of basically drumming up tourism by playing on peoples,
beliefs in the area in the abominable snow man, and I think there is a
At a time one of the people interviewed in this great BBC article about the Eddie there, the the this russian scientists says, there's
at a time where it was like very fashionable for these
Tell agenda of Russia
and the Soviet Union to basically go on trips in the summer.
Looking for the abominable snow man and they would show
I've been these towns and
town had a designated yeti, witness
and the Yeti witnesses, job was to basically regale them with tall tales. There were supposedly true take them on these
words into the forest
and then make a bunch of money off of em and say thanks a lot,
I'm sorry, we didn't see anything this time, but that they apparently
in two thousand and eleven the russian government orchestrated
another one of those it through this conference. In from the conference they announced to the world, they had found indisputable proof that Yeti exists from this.
Bed in these broken branches and supposedly a few hairs attached to a clump of moss by similar
people who were attending Anthropod anthropologist symbiosis really now it's
totally made up. This is all just a big tourist pr stunt near which is hilarious, Medicare Russia. The important supposedly tried to do it again in two thousand sixteen
He announced that he saw three Yeti from a helicopter tour of Siberia. That's what he thinks so too.
I mean I know how much else. Yet your bears right, yeah we couldn't. We can talk about.
Does you ology, though, without mentioning that coelacanth argument and in the
thing about the Yeti. Is that their there was actually a species of ape called again
Pythagoras there was like a nine foot tall ape the biggest ape that ever lived there.
Lived in this very area and went extinct
hundred thousand years ago, so that people who
really believe in. This are like you now without the coelacanth went extinct like sixty million years before. We just think this guy
an extinct two hundred thousand years before who's to say so that seems to be that way.
Its carrying on this belief that, in the fact there is some
He put in one of these articles. All we take as one yeti to prove that yet exists, but no matter how much there's? No such thing as ever
they can prove it doesn't exist. Some ample are always going to believe it just like Nessie, exactly and big foot exactly so they go
If you, I know more about the Yeti,
go to the Himalayas and look for it yourself and since I said that, it's time for a listener, mail
or we should mention if you're in Disneyworld is a roller coaster. Ride
Expedition Everest Colin, does you know everything?
rollercoaster colon.
Colin Legend of the forbidden mountain there are. There is a track on display their that three,
It's not in the scientific museum in its Disneyworld is because hits the Yeti track.
But you can get lonely at one from a tv show.
This guy named gates
is not a zoologist at all, but he's an actor in an animal.
Around me things in animal tracker. As you know, he's he's good at her and tv presented in a producer, yes said: they'd, they presented one on his tv show. Another
Disneyworld yeah, so any fury
Is the land there's a yeti on the matter hydride ride really like a real yeti.
Near the ever Jane by the neck inside the matter, horns really scrawny, they clearly aren't taken. Very good care. Amazing, I already said is
four listener. Male Charlie, I got distracted sorry, so I'm gonna call this
upon the chilly finger, the Jimmy
planet it when these
and in quick shadow there's a local listener from George Attack, but I just want to say hello to a couple of people I met last
at the high museum. When I went to the
infinity mirrors.
Zeb, isn't that amazing, gay always Kusadama? I thought it was here's what I think
I got really cool
and it would have been like cooler if it's just like yeah, you just walk
all these things and you don't wait. Thirty minutes to spend twenty seconds in the room yet that took away from it a bit
you you mean, I went at the end of the day and people thinned out and we could just keep going in
staying as long as we wanted and I'm so I totally get what you're saying it was cool though, and I also think like I went with my brother and his family and Scott was kind of, like
I build one of these in my back yard by next weekend. I want to see
God Infinity and here I thought the same
you'll be also to build one of those interests they hang out and for sure I don't wanna take anything away from her, though she's a great artist in it, and it was really need a love. I think, though,
That was sort of like the Christmas lights was my favorite one. What about the one? That's like that
like an octagon old box that you look in that was awesome yeah, it's just like you see your future
eighties or something like that to get a couple photos and but largely kept the fund in my pocket, strutted be in it.
Yeah man, I'm with you so anyway, I'm at a couple of listeners that were just now
to be there and they both came up and like are you chuck, and so my brother
they could get to that as well as often, but this was not one of those people
they deserve my to make us it's a Georgia, tech student, hey guys relatively new listener happened,
It was about a hundred episode so far,
around. As you can tell I majority tech student,
They hope to run into you guys at some point in Atlanta did. I mentioned
he said, is one of the places where a finger had been found in it.
If only sort of had something to write about it. We listen to the winds, Chile, but guess
suddenly heard the name of a place sent a very familiar coals custard.
Remember. We mention that at the end, as it is a place where there was a finger, oh yeah,
Yes, it is one of the places where a finger had been found in it shocked me as it is just a tiny, little custard job that is not a chain at quite expensive beach property North Carolina. I've been as it has a Georgia text student. I was shocked,
I've been to the place, probably five or ten times is a frequent visitor, rightful beach
and had never heard of any one mention this incident. Does things very impressive?
a little store manage stay afloat after such an incident occurred
hearing about the finger incident will not deter me from going again now and then
Ethan Lions
either. Maybe that is exactly
I endured, is because people just want that custard so bad, it must be pretty good custard, those who think it
yeah and it didn't make like big.
National news, probably because it's not a Jane
see, I am sure, that's part of it, but they also do a better job, spinning
p r than windy skin unbending thanks lie.
Four lightness, no to kind of bringing that home had
really envision the place where the finger is found in the custard until now. So thanks for that
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