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New Parcast Original: Medical Murders

2020-08-27

We all know that medical professionals are trained to give exceptional care. But in the new Parcast Original, Medical Murders, you’ll discover a disturbing diagnosis… that not every doctor wants to extend your life. Every Wednesday, meet the men and women who used their expertise to develop sinister specialties. Host Alastair Murden examines the formative years and motives of history’s most infamous killer doctors, dissecting their medical backgrounds with expert analysis provided by practicing M.D., Dr. David Kipper. 

Enjoy this exclusive clip from our first episode of Medical Murders! Then search Medical Murders to find more episodes, free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts!

This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Hi there. I want to tell you about a thrilling new Parkhurst original, that's bound to become your next podcast obsession. It's cold. Political murders and supposes a dark and disturbing diagnosis that not every Doktor wants to extend your life Every Wednesday host Alistair. Murden introduces you to the worse. The medical community has to offer men and women who took an oath to save lives, but instead use their expertise to develop more sinister specialities with splitting now provided by practising M d Doktor David Kipper. Nickel murders examines the formative years and motives of histories most infamous killer doctors. I'm telling this show has all kinds of wild cases to give would taste of how great the show is. I'm gonna play you and exclusive clip from our first episode on Harold Shipman. He was a full time, job,
sure and part time serial killer who injected over two hundred patients with lethal doses of pain, killers to hear them, as to the episode follow medical murders free on Spotify or wherever you get your pod. Listen discretion is advised. This episode features disk since of murder, medical malpractice, mental health conditions, addiction and prescription drug abuse. That may be upsetting, We advise extreme caution, fearlessness under thirteen at a certain point. In life, we accept death is inevitable. We even come to expect it in setting Since, when we lose someone elderly or very sick, we grieve, but we are surprised we prepared for the pain anticipated the event.
When a grandmother dies of old age. No one questions it. When her aging friend down the road dies from cancer, it's not a shock and when over two hundred elderly citizens of Hide England died within a twenty span. No one imagined that they were. The victims of the UK is most prolific, Sir your killer This is medical murders, podcast original for decades. Thousands of medical students have taken the hippocratic oath. It boils down to do no harm, but a closer look reveals
phrase much more interesting. I must not play at God. However. Some doctors break that oath choosing to play God with their patients deciding who lives and who dies each week on medical murders will investigate those who decided to kill wheel. Lord the specifics of how they operate not just on their patience but within their own minds. Examining the psychology Europa behind heartless medical killers. I'm out, stammered and and I'm joined by Doktor David Kipper MD high everyone. It's a pleasure to be here to assist Alister by providing medical information and insight into the killers modus operandi. I've been in practice for over three decades, specializing in internal and addiction, medicine and I'm really thrilled to be part of this programme, because I'm a huge fan of crime stories and
may as a doctor. Solving a murder is much like sobbing and difficult diagnosis. You can find episodes of medical murders and all other pockets, the regional free on Spotify or wherever you listen support. Cos. To stream medical matters for free on Spotify, just open the app and type medical murders in the search bar. This is our first episode on Doktor, Harold, Frederick Shipman, otherwise no is Fred, the UK, most prolific serial killer before one thousand nine hundred and seventy four and one thousand nine hundred and ninety eight shipment killed at least two hundred and eighteen people. Every one of them was a patient who had entrusted the doctor with that cat, each victim's family believe they died of natural causes until the dark truth was real, field. Today we will look at shipments, disturbing modus operandi, his early it is unlikely motivations next time will examine how
men escalated his crimes within his private practice and how the subsequently Query into doktor death forever changed the british medical field Kathleen. Grundy was late. Still, it was only if you minutes into her scheduled eleven. A m volunteers shift her friend John Green figure. Merely distracted, but after forty five minutes green and his friend run Pickford grew concerned. It wasn't like cats. To be late, though she was eighty one. She stayed active, volunteering five days a week. Still she will is eighty one. So green and Pickford went to check on their friend around noon on June, twenty fourth nineteen. Ninety eight, they found her back door unlocked.
Was an uncommon for hides elderly citizens to leave their doors open, but it still gave green pause. He shouted hello with no response, Further inside he found Kathleen lying peacefully on the Seti. Fully dressed as if she'd fallen asleep with her shoes on he tried to wake her, but her skin was grey and her body was cold, Green called in Pickford who called leans, Doktor, Fred, Shipman. Twenty minutes later doktor shipment, arrived, checked, Kathleen for a pulse and promptly declared. She died of a heart attack. Green asked about Kathleen Stock disappointment that morning, had she been sick. Shipman replied that he stopped by only for it
later that day, Kathleen daughter, Angela called shipment to inquire about her mother Shipman, told her what he told Green and Pickford that her mother had died of cardiac arrest. In fact, she'd complained of chest pain at her appointment that morning, however, when he filed the death certificate with the coroner doctors, Shipman wrote the casting Grundy died of old age, not a heart, attack, old age me and said you have lived to a point where some of your illnesses and some of the chronic things that have gone on with you starting to catch up with you. So we don't really think about aging until we start feeling the effects of these chronic illnesses old age. A sort of a nondescript answer and can be miss very misleading to the coroner fan is rarely review a death certificate, but the coroner is,
very careful about. What's written, these rules, he'll documents and actually have life insurance implications. And also reflect exactly in case people do have to go back for family since to know what their genetic history as they like to be able to refer back to these death certificates to see if there are in trouble for anything that may be in there in their genetics Kathleen daughter, Angela, did questioned the death certificates She was a solicitor and to her it was clear. The list it cause of death did not line up with the facts. When Angela Approach Doktor shipment, he claims the fifth was a favour to say for the stress of a post mortem exam and identification. He was helping her Angela knew her mom love doktor Shipment and that his private practice was extremely popular with the citizens of hide. So she trusted him,
Two things grew more suspicious. A law firm reached out to Angela saying they had her. Mothers will, but that couldn't be possible. Angelo already had her. Mothers will even stranger. This second will left nothing to Angela and requested Kathleen be cremated, despite the fact that she'd expressly told Angela to bury her not to mention the will was typed in all caps with words missing letters. The law firm set, their points of contact was John Smith, which Angela Guest was a fake name. This will was a forgery and lazy one. Wouldn't stand for it. Angela began and investigation started with the law firm and then the police. Before Long Kathleen, Grundy
Body was examined and an autopsy revealed that she hadn't died of a heart attack or old age she'd been murdered injected with a lethal dose of morphine the evidence pointed straight to the wills beneficiary, and perhaps the last person to see cast Grundy alive, Doktor, Fred, Shipman Angela, didn't know it, but her mother wasn't shipments first victim. She was at the very least his two hundred eighteenth is murders spans twenty three years with his first confirmed, kill in nineteen seventy five, but his crimes Laurie began twelve years before that in nineteen sixty three, the first time, friendship,
saw a sick woman dying when he was a teenager shipments. Mother Vera was diagnosed with lung cancer. This news was made more devastating by reports that Fred was his mother's favorite. According to some accounts, she spoiled him right always telling him. He was better than the other boys, though they were working class. She pushed him to apply for a scholarship to an elite. Prime School shipment soon learns. That perception was everything he loaded his tie and uniform over his family and the neighbourhood kids displaying early sense of arrogance on and off the playground, but he had more time for that in nineteen sixty three after his mother's day, noses, he'd raced home from school to comfort,
Zira as she waned away from cancer at the time it was routine for doctors to make house calls to check on patients and administer drugs like morphine. Sometimes, doctors do by unannounced just to say hello or have a cup of tea. Fred Shipman got to know his mother's doktor and his work well. Fred recalled watching his mother struggle for breath. Then grow calm and peaceful as the doktor injected morphine into Veins orphan works in the brain by slowing down those reflexes in the brain, to control, breathing and heart rate, so as well, Seen comes into the brain, those centres that normally regulate these functions starts slow down more interesting. Alister doctors proscribed morphine, not just for pain man but we also use this at the end of someone's life in order to give them a very peaceful and calm exit vera passed away,
in nineteen sixty three. It seems Shipman dedicated much of his life You re living his last year with her to that point by the of seventeen he had decided to become a doctor and did nineteen seventy. He graduated from Lee university, medical school later that year, twenty four year old ship and began. King as a pre registration house officer at pontiff, francs, general infirmary in retrospect shipping killing Korea may have started alongside his medical one. So some people attempt to cross their traumas. By reliving that trauma, this is not in common and its use constantly and therapeutic sessions, and this is called exposure therapy exposure
therapy. However, in some one that is murdering people is probably not such a good therapy. The trouble with investigating doktor shipment is that every one of his matters was initially documented as a natural death, meaning that the hard evidence was lost time and the truth buried with the victims. Not much is known about his training, but the accounts we do have a concerning. One us. Sondra Whitehead recalled that the Infirmaries women's ward once saw three deaths single day that shipments worked and she often found empty injection packs left in deceased patients. Rooms she presumes. They were used to administer intravenous drugs like morphine. If any of these deaths were murders, they lined up with shipments later ammo and it wasn't just Sondra the infirmary
records show a higher than usual death rate during shipments training period, perhaps because weakened to trust on doctors, no one suspected shipment of anything at the time. Nurse Sondra Whitehead only came forward decades later after she about the government's investigation into Shipman. It's also possible some of these debts, weren't premeditated murders, but accidental overdoses, Shipman may hope to relieve a patient's pain. Remembering the miraculous relief morphine gave his suffering mother and overdone it. If so, this period may have contained shipment. Second moment a revelation morphine had the power to take away pain, but it also had the power to kill, without consequence,
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