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Firstly, rural and slow paced, the aging population contrasts with The new connected society we all live it in May things have been done. The same way for years. Outside world has little effect on the way of life for many of its residents. The rest of the EU I might have certain ideas about the seemingly secluded state. If they ever thought about it at all. People might think nothing ever happens in Maine, but the early morning, hours of Halloween October, thirty, first, two thousand sixteen preconceived notions would be proven. Untrue, just west of the State Capitol Gus. Is the small community of Winthrop Maine There's really only one road leading west from Augusta, and that is state route to us too. Just east of the city centre is

small road that branches off route to a two for a little ways before it rejoined the highway pie. No road only stretches for about two thousand feet and has Ten hopes not sold into the woods north of the road in the summer, The road is lined with a canopy trees, providing plenty of separation from the busy route to or two in the winter. The isolation is so much more with sound, absorbing fresh powder on the ground. The area falls under a deafening silence. It's enough to make Anyone feel absolutely alone detached, even when surrounded by the two handfuls of neighbours that share the street, at around one? Forty five, a m, the key surroundings of pine. No road were shattered residents

began to call nine when one with a disturbing report What about why? Don't you know you got away from people area around screaming and the number one which we really wanted: driveway doorbell and in the dead of night people awoke to woman screaming and frantically ringing the door Bell and knock it. What would you do with help? Would you let the hysterical person inside most people double checked at their doors, were locked, not knowing the level of danger that they themselves could be in there of pi no road helped the only way they knew how, while still keeping themselves safe They called nine when one but didn't let the screaming what inside

saying I'm in trouble. I please help I don't want to die. She sits on had a guy. She was afraid for her life at that time. The lady was very frantic and she left our doorstep after the first ass was slow to react, The woman ran further down the road to the next house and woke them up to screaming for help at their front door or she was very, very panicked. Yes, she said, let me and let me and let me- and I don't want to die tonight and so kind of trouble mean, unlike ok, let's call the police. The odd thing about these reports Is that they were wrong, there wasn't a woman's screaming through the streets. It was a man.

Parents, for you now did you catch. Did you hear what the frantic person was running from no more? If you didn't it'll all become clear soon, while the nearby county, Somerset handled the nine. When one calls concerning the frantic man in the street, the nine one call centre in candidate County had another collar on the line, one that shed more light on what actually happening on pine? No road? I want my g. I press

How old are you? Ok it was you here today. Andrew Boss, Sir called nine one one on himself after he stabbed his parents to death and also stabbed the families to Walden. The man running through the streets was his older brother, Christopher, who Andrew had let escape where you got.

Were they sweeping the dispatcher tried do said the situation and keep Andrew talking until police arrived. He had confessed to double murder. There was no telling what he was capable of What did you do that in Greece there's more, in Spain of his murder confession. It seemed his sort of rage had passed Andrew agreed to cooperate. He lay down as fathers gun and left his knife where he had. It I got over there. I want you to get hurt.

Now. What do you want? do. I want you glad you're working with me. You lie. He didn't know why he had murdered his mother and father, but otherwise he was quite polite ass. He waited to be arrested, Europe means if we use, How do you understand me? me, Do you

With his apprehension completed, the usual questions arose. Who is Andrew Paul, sir? What did he do and why did he do it? The first. Your questions are easy to answer, but at last question. Would be significantly more difficult, Andrew Ball, Sir, was born and Nantucket, but grew up in Winthrop. He was a good kid never skipping school or even trying drugs in his life. You did well in school and took advance placement classes. Andrew was only a matter of weeks away from his eighteenth birthday and was expecting to graduate in the spring.

He aspired to be a marine biologist studying anything other than marine mammals. He liked the water, even though he couldn't sale. You wanted to take five, your college, coarse and marine biology at Marine Maritime Academy, so that he can be cut. Guard, certified to be part of the crew on boats up two hundred fifty five feet or two thousand? Andrews Middle name was teeny named biased. Other after the lash ship still floating that was in combat during Pearl harbor. It seem to predetermine his destiny to be on the water, but then he murdered his parents Andrews Father Antonio, went by the name Tony and was a manly man, retired but twenty plus year career in the coastguard. And a motorcycle club and began to serve them as road captain and as a chaplain.

At forty seven years old he held regular biker Bible studies, where his fellow bikers do him as Rev. For short, he was recovering alcoholic and had said, replaced. His vice marijuana even taking it. Trimming pot plants for a local grower in Maine Medical marijuana is legal and tone He had his card prescribed for the bad back and PTSD allowing him the grows on plants as well Andrew, Mother Alice, who everyone called Alley, was a kind hearted soul. She had to passions in life other than a is she loved the run and she loved animals? She worked as a vat tech at the local that Marian spittle that was less than two miles west down route to hundred and two from their house.

As such the family had seventeen pets. That's right, seven teen, including twelve cats, to snakes to get pigs and one little Chihuahua well, not anymore, that weaken, leading up to Halloween had been relatively normal one on Saturday, Andrews parents went to a Halloween Costume party and returned home late following his parents were sleeping off the night. Before said the house was quiet, except for his twenty four year old brother, Christopher about playing his Nintendo D ass Andrew, look up later in the morning after lounging a bit himself and use them. Asked of time to do some homework for class the next day later that evening, when his parents emerged from their after party slumber, they were to town to get dinner when they returned all sat down and eight Wendy's together as a family

Andrew had the bacon later during dinner. They enjoyed a movie together in stark contrast so what would later transpire they watched, Monty Python slice of bright a comedy about a man born the same day is Jesus, who is mistaken as the Messiah himself, but, of course, misadventures ensue, being a school night, you decided they hit the hay around nine o clock His father and mother were already back asleep. Christopher was alone. In his basement bedroom on his computer, the house fell into a peaceful quiet only to erupt in chaos just a few hours later.

Strangely rural in terms of population, our largest city is poor land. I live in the capital, which is the city of a gas stir, and our population might be around seventeen thousand. At this point it gets higher during the day because the a state workers, the state legislature, things like that, but it's a rather whirl and Winthrop is about. Eighty seven eight miles west of here and that obviously more rural, we knew something was going on out in winter, Ah, the police were out there. We worth really shore to earlier what it was that more. After Andrew had already been taken into custody. The news of double murder travelled fast, Betty, I worked for the Cannabich Journal at the time and reported on this case

hello, I'm Betty items I recently retired, and it can affect journal where I wrote court stories for about twenty five years, maybe a little bit less like most. Murders. The local media reported on the case and main, however, murders a little bit more attention than in most states because they just don't have as many there were a teen murders in Maine in two thousand sixteen. When this to play so he would have a counterfeit euro. I followed it extremely closely. It was very port and to everybody to know what was going on. In that case, the murderers of Hawaii the next most populous state twenty sixteen, was nearly double that of made to give you some kind of reference, the two most populous states. California, in Texas, though hovered around two thousand murders and twenty sixteen, this case, however, was more than just rare. This case, all

so involved a minor first of all, we ve got the murderous to people a mother and father by younger son and the sun was seventeen years and eleven months old when this murder took place. So we treated in Maine as a juvenile. I dont think that community was upset in terms of worrying about their own safety at this point because the defendant was arrested. At the scene, almost immediately after he caught police or was it public safety, but I was sort of. Why did this happen? What was behind it? the murder of two well known community members would leave any populous with questions, but then, These two community members were married and the murderer was there under son, the community has more passing curiosity. They now

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gusting himself, they talk about school for bit more and then they switch to call sounds happy to be discussing himself. They talk about school for a bit more and then they switch to questions about video games and talk about his favorite role, playing game or r, p d, elders calls oblivion, first person, but you can mess with the viewpoint is setting up sores, armor creatures, whatever you play ass to save the world suchlike. So ways as it were from a review is house jewels the emperor and also bring back this mister, Ok, I'll Tyrrell, say after just after is that for me. Play like mine, a lot of people say signifier during the day

gosh. You can almost forget that he's being questioned after a murder, his demeanor seems strange. The calm and collected tried for a question I'm going to try because you're interested in it was more of a of Czech see decided in Egypt. So what ve you on track. It's ok I was offered Yes, I was stay. There are slowly, but surely they delve into Andrews private thoughts

feelings about: school brands, relationships and society as a whole. So sorry he As far as much as I say, I really enjoyed it's just. I generally she was barred. Tell rising bad about child. So you really have a lie. Memories In your background of hunger, already failings, really am either theories along with the will always be transfer really wanted to be. There was always

once anyplace be friends. Make friends whatever, wherever one soon lost city there are areas of waste. You saw, How do you? How do you feel you feel? Is it a positive experience for you is a negative one. Recent years review is taking over there about For the most part is Mr Lehne, Mr Andrew came, as a well adjusted young man, he was on the verge of adulthood that seem to have all is ducks in a row when the Converse changed course into the topic of his parents and his brother Andrews tone change.

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the more it seemed that Andrew had a lot of animosity towards his father. What teen boy doesn't really cm, Is that how things on my phone pray this animosity didn't seem to income this his mother or brother though, but there were other issues that brought tension to the household Andrews brother Christopher. Was on his mother's last nerve. She'll see my brother. Is he dropped out of school twice there was no around the sun. You see he would not. Do you have a more efficient farrier rather than taking your father, I

people raise, any sort of people will feel any force by Andrew was a good kid was kind of lost. He went to school where he performed well. He was friendly with his fellow students and faculty you can make friends anyway wet, but those friends were never that close Andrew was a bit of a loner and didn't really have any free. Outside of school. At such an important position age Boyd, a man feeling alone can really messed with you. Yes, but

because those suicidal weeks was for a particular reason. It was just didn't feeling of life. I Andrew. Can that every couple of weeks he felt like committing suicide but claimed it was a fleeting feeling. You never planned how he would actually do it. You never had a gun to his head or a blade do his rest, but every couple of eggs. He would have this feeling that being alive, this wasn't for him. He was very forthcoming with all the questions produced by the day deaths and they picked up on his willingness? so there was no need to gently bring up the murder of his parents. Andrew happily led the detectives through the ass of Sunday evening into Monday morning, our house

You should see Luther? for much longer. Can I go to bed I don't remember much what happens if certain feeling the Chinese. Turning off the arrogance, was a feeling happy you're ashes, Sir Tristram, the aim of ash three in the morning, I'm shaping their hands that is another his memory was spotty. It was to be expected after that traumatic event.

And the amount of adrenalin that was likely coursing through his veins. In the early morning he finds himself shaking and holding a knife. Knife, however, isn't just any kind of life. Sort of like a house So why I heard there was a more united There is none of my brother got. It back turns out that Andrew was a bit of a weapon, collector seer Signal Corner Polly certainly train their. Yes, so do I nor was the idle hands Why

I went back to my room. It's really worry Justin? you an idea of the kind of knife he used to kill his parents. The K bar is a big knife. Made famous by the military's adoption as a general issue knife. The typical blade length is seven inches on the clock military design dating back to maintain forty two. It's that I chronic knife that you are likely to have watched in any war movie like ever The early Rambo films come to mind, during in at a total length of nearly a foot. It's a huge knife developed. We're survival and combat works. I guess it's just that I stammered Tom, going through my head. Yeah

It was I think I've figured it be around their high pitched costs in town and that no other fats beyond Andrew began to hear a thirteen k frequency tone that of all thoughts from his head. He figured it would be somewhere around thirteen kill, hurts which would sound something like this sorry in advance. If it makes you dog or cat freak out, I was there was a knife. I watched what both of whom were sitting there my mother ass. She ran the matter, someone once

Are you having refused us? You know your room all sit with you. As I was. All your life in my hand, I sign How do I know I collapse and I continue to Sab Voice Three times in the viewer She fell on her It was on her friends. Were was lying on her back where she was I think she might open fine back after the first step. Was there when she was on the bed What is that hurry back, look like It was really

Where was more adjusts? Why can't through? why you have the knife and why you're taking your mother down to your bedroom? I don't know most of what I just don't know why so you're you're wrong here here opportunity, and so what do you do? I am raising the knife down into her back, he's the shooting yells and my father conservation and I love you, I suppose we eat

we are trying to swaying and sad as part of Europe is, of course, the right word house. All ye she's. I have stressed, in the past there, towards making research in society Andrew caught his mother by surprise. Stabbing her nine times in the back and chest his father toe. He was more aware of what was going on and put up a fight but he was no match for the large fight that

Andrew was wielding Andrew? ended up stabbing his father thirteen times after the murders is when Andrew remembered his brother? I heard a commotion upstairs I went to check and I saw my father lying on his back in a pool of his own blood, really very slowly and my brother, standing over him where the knife as Christopher started up the basement stairs he caught a gaze of his brother Andrew, was at the top of the stairs holding a knife and his father's gun Christopher. Rose in his tracks on the table like his chair there, because Edith was me here.

Sir He was the child. Was there You know that daily basis. Gun adjacent rush. Their locks loaded, as I go and rabbit. I think at this point on this issue. The job there satisfy me tonight? already and both my parents are by this time. So I discharged the weapon her case. The same as I made my way. Over the last years. Phone in his hand. He was dial. I say to him,

This is our for me. I tell us to go. He drew his room. Have you here, he's he's Ellen I don't remember why specific research, where do not worry? I was Andrew promised his brother, that he wasn't going to hurt him, but Christopher was still afraid Can you imagine having to beg your younger sibling, not to murder, you like they did your parents my brother is not a few years ago. Almost allegations and so he says we have one points. Four months ago that If I am

one eleven everyone. I would ask him or plans you. I would ask you, do you want to die today? I so hundreds issue. I think he was speaking in jest there. You, yes, You have not marks yes, you're here tonight, yes open. See he has himself what is Romani It has only door very. You are right see. If you were me, you were in fact I'm so he wears a house

he went up to the very end of the street ass. The family is a crisis with mine, so he ran to their outside EU issues and slower police found him Christopher account of his interaction with Andrew mirrored that of his brothers, I figured be best if I asked him before I took out because again, when prompted, I can run fast, can't run fifteen hundred meters, a second You know her. Whatever bullet philosophy is said. Ok, it's not your day. I'm gonna call the police, so he picks up the phone call the police upstairs. I don't follow him right behind him, but I go upstairs at that point, all I can do others get out there you been given a free pass. Get.

Care So I am longer he has my dad's firearm, thirty's semi automatic mankind ass, a Ok, I can't run faster than that. So I asked him. If I can, I just leave. Can I just getting just one any said yeah sure so, I opened the garage door at the grass or opener, tenaciously, Fritto Broadway wailed, my head on the door on the way about this interview with Christopher. Conducted some time after Andrew was arrested, wanted to set the record straight. The only other person that survived that night I have used me. Were I father lair. Like this I say to myself: Funny the boy size, if you're afraid

I ask myself eyes after dial the phone I saw, I don't know why I wasn't gonna use The only says you re really there is like somebody override I skills of parents and so transfers me so they're worth repeating whereas ovary Bulgarians out of your head, Did you feel affection choice? Yesterday, let's say: ok, Ass, a factual. When she was there and I eyes Why do I do

why? I realise that I just murder of flight? whereas there are still ass no. Why should we have some sort of user at the moment. I just feel Andrew claims. He felt affection for his mother. Right before he decided to stab her in the back It seems unlikely as we already heard the delirious state he was in during the nine. When one call I mean he announced TAT, he was with a bit too much zeal and even chuckles at one point after he was caught and placed in a patrol car, his emotional state, didn't seem to match the situation he was in over. Police radio. He heard the chatter of other sisters doubting the crime thinking it was all a Halloween hoax, Missis

joking that nothing happens. Someone who's trying Joe interesting, while waiting in the back troll car Andrew. Had some time to himself while the officer secured the crime scene. As I was saying resource you found. Some US ass? The time I've always singing? We now have a rosy lunch online. Modular sir, not one Go

Andrew was handcuffed to the back of a patrol car. After brutally stabbing his parents to death, and he started to sing opera to pass the time, not just any song, but one that talks about the fickleness of women. The translation of Luciano Pavarotti, he's Madonna, mobility is as follows: woman is fickle feather in the wind changes are voice, always swede pretty face in tears she is always lie always miserable. Is he who trust? Sir

He took advising is unaware. One never views Who was there is not really love, woman is spica, like a feather in the wind changes are voice. So as blue lights, periodically bathed his surroundings. He sang and operatic breakup song, I'm not If this is even relevant, but it's a strange thing to do. And a strange song to pick while sitting in the back of that patrol car after killing your parents after his inner, Andrew was charged with murder and transported to Long Creek, youth development Centre in South Portland to await the next steps of justice during the trip Andrew and attack,

lives joked about Andrew, not knowing with a comedian Chris Farley was or how the detective kind of looked like agent Smith from the matrix. Or how tv and movies make cop seem so much worse than he experienced be complimented them, how nice they word of. It was a dragged along Creek and it would be a long road to trial, while the court's tried to decide if the acts

Andrew, committed warranted him to be tried, as an adult party reverse if they have the basic evidence in defining a problem caused by the court. That there's evidence enough to go forward and the second part of the hearing, which I think is the more important part, is determination. But what is appropriate to have him basically tried as an adult and treated as an adult in the adult system? We are seeking to have him not put into the adult system, because, even though it was close eighteen, he was not eighteen at the time you seventy two, the time is appropriate to have him dealt with as it you now. Why do you say that? Thank you, sir.

Seventeen years old and that the people at that age do all kinds of things in the. Obviously this was a very horrible. Tragic event doesn't mean that automatically he has to go into the full by adults system not appropriate, and he sounds very mature and where we were small, meticulous sounds like an adult and have of people. That's it. That's interesting that you mentioned that that's important peace, that people can sound like an adult and talk like an adult doesn't mean that their adult in terms of how they think how they react and how their brain develops nothing. But we're gonna hear about. Of course, state attorneys had the opposite viewpoint: incredibly, brutal murder of two people, solemn he'll, be giving the age and all the factors involved. Our feeling is quite clearly should be an adult prosecution of juvenile prosecution. After some time incarcerated Andrew came to find himself or I should say her

self you see, while in juvy for the murder of his parents. Andrew bosses came to the realisation that he wanted to be a she, He wanted to live out the rest of his life as Andrea Ball, sir. This is something that is grandfather supported, who took time to His granddaughters preference to the court Andrea. Youth programmes The weather is they are see they still do. This shocking announcement seemed real

it seemed legitimate and not just apply to be tried as a juvenile or perhaps be deemed unfit to stand. Trial, Andrea, passers, grandfather, Alice fosters Father, supported, Andrea all along and in fact I believe, probably is the person who arranged for the defence and turning the minute, the judge was told that the defendant preferred female pronouns, whom he called Andrea. The judge The switch to using them at everybody in the courtroom. Try chief means been pretty accept gang of individuals undergoing gender identity crises issues are simply having a different gender identity than they had a birth when drill. Was coming clean, perhaps after she talked about her feelings with the state chiefs. Forensics ecologist he indicated

Usually, we said that he was sure he'll outwardly was who he was inwardly and councillors at long creek. The boy to me. Even the boy like him. Yes, the young man, no Benjamin Andrea, had changed a lot during her Raymond. She looked completely different than she did later in court. She had shoulder like hair and a scruffy beard after her decision and announcement of the court. He was always clean shaven and adopted a new hairstyle more feminine one, with short hair, except for a long strip that gently swooped down. Her left eye judge has ruled the teenager from Winthrop accused of killing his parents a year ago will be tried as an adult Andrew balls

is accused of murdering his parents in their home last year. He was seventeen at the time if convicted of two counts Walser faces us of twenty five years to life in prison for each murder count it took me a year for the court to decide if she should be treated as an adult or not in spite How much Andrea had changed the court decided due to the severity of the crime? She would indeed be treated and tried as an adult by this time she was almost nineteen years old and still waiting for her trial, but before the trial could take place Andrea would do something virtually unheard of and change the course of the higher media circus.

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and the opportunity was slipping away. I've done interviews with defendants major before, but when he reached out. I said I would be over there it shortly. There is a protocol to follow. You know it dealt with the sheriff who's that operates to jail and Andrea, would have had to sign off on it. Andrea, had been relocated to the county jail right. Then long, Creek Youth Development Centre, seeing as had been nearly two years since the crime and she was now almost twenty years old. She talked about them mental abuse at the hands of her father, specifically on her sixtyth birthday, and I was just sitting on the couch. My father was in his work on

mean over ass. He picked up his gun. I didn't nothing of it because he usually messes with a zero sum awaited whatever, but he Stanza walks over to it something weird. I then look at him and he once again tonight chests. Pull factor the hammer, also correct the gun was alluded. But I I didn't know that the danger is class, he just glasses happy, but she also talked about the reaction of her parents. She first knew she didn't want to grow up to be a man. Part of it was tat. He said he thought TAT. His father in particular, would not have slept,

where did him and his sexual identity, gender? I didn't really issues rather, and you are afraid to share with your parents in particular by his eye I needed sheriff. I was a further four years ago It was quickly been out of the day, told them what I wanted to be, Well, you know what I say I I question my identity is more recent thing that my question when I was younger, I knew exactly who ought to be able to grow up in a woman when I owe my mother lab, she told me other than those of some kind of well savvy down, told me no wench

physically forces me that was something that was exactly my brother about it, because they are what he will do as well as that the wind errors later on. He said that his mother had been molesting em from age fourteen and that he thought it was gonna take place again paddy evening for that that night He was going to overly fashion. I, when I was a mouse fourteen years old, she just started Yes, it was often it continued until I was about sixteen percent, Andrea goes on to describe her alleged molestation as her mother. Taking her overt displays of affection to far may

She went into more detail about what they're dead, but the Cannabich Journal only published excerpts from the jailhouse interview an interesting side note is that this inner he was done before sentencing and without the permission of the court, the prosecutor's office tried to get the full uncut interview with the Cannabich Journal, but they denied their request, citing their rights as a free press. The prosecutor's office even tried to subpoena the newspaper, but the court sided with the journal as such when we requested the interview they denied our access as well. They did, however, give us the right to use anything they had already published on mine special. Thank you to the Cannabich Journal. And the managing editor Scott for allowing us to use the jailhouse interview Andrea, went on reveal one more detail about that night that she had come to her

off for nearly two years, something shocking about her mother, the night she killed her. I had not all one what she had said to me she hugged she old man she whispered in my ear. Do you always make everything better Andrew now claimed that, right before he killed him, there? She whispered in his ear on offer to make everything better on offer. He feared meant she was going to molest him again. That night. His brother of course says nothing. I have sent a letter to my brother, sorry for everything. I love him very much. I pray for him and I would change everything if I could and my brother wrote me back and eat

pretty much such Andrew as you are a remorseless monster. I do not know what the point of this letter was. I knew you have no future of any kind. He also said that no living God forever and said: are you do errors express them at some point that he wanted to, Certainly a letter that he was thinking about me and basic, I wasn't verdict. I got it. I just based show guy, not interested, which are not and the slightest no interest in a relationship of any kind and more as far as I'm concerned, he died deadline to Andrea now claimed. That are more as molestation was a trigger for the murders

it didn't really have any effect on the case, according to the defence attorney was too little in way too late. He claims as mothers actually these them. Why not fight for Let all insanity plea in this new on those lines. That's true about her. She doesn't apply in a case like this, so grown out of use occur is indicated. Wouldn't that be wooden person intentionally, notably committed a crime, the factor per citizen Maybe a lot about business, see you do believe that what happened to your fire, that's what she has said to her mother is actually being sir, and that was a trigger in this event. What do you make of that claim? Will address that at length, sentencing oppositions except on Israel, we will be addressing various factors at sensing that included Andrea, knew that this recent confession would not live,

Lee be the key to our freedom, but she did hope, but at length is I go in the courtroom guilty. I gotta sentencing they re a cookie and a glass of milk and they say you're free to go. I think, is going to happen. Since then tell a story like I'm telling you now and they are going to just Let me go polish. Fifty five years later, he would officially changer plea to guilty during the sentencing. Andreas fair, we expressed their feelings, it was horrible for the family because they lost everybody. They lost Antonio. They lost allies and they lost Andrea, but family was too apart and that's usually what happens there family but trying to be,

court of other Andrea there as part of the family is brother entered the who wants nothing to do with Andrea and there's two people, lettered GAD tested its harbour? There's nobody there's nobody It's gonna win an icy houses last crisis. Who is it we do by these killings because of sexual identity, more general Israelis is truly a cowardly andreasen. Yourself, less than stalling for my life entire existence, violence, straw, you were taken from me thus from it. I see Sousa storm Why As far as the lowest was family dinner masturbation.

Safe, healthy, How do you ever saw a star has changed. I stole softly. I was actually slender I've just been mentioned. Some bizarre percents struggle I can tell you that all to be erased from the world, for one simple reason, justice cannot. In this case even our paper, America to these problems your eyes, you say longer, sounds policy, excuses justification nor horse. Here I saw no reason. Societies drear, try! to express remorse, but it fell on deaf ears,

Oh no! I am truly sorry for what down five hers and oils. We'll never really forgiveness only. I must not feel worse than this You know, I'm not happy that all of this just training, one health or another ages. I can take it all back. Andreas literally snapped under the normal pressures of adolescence, combined with the undue stress of an absent and demeaning father and if it is to be believed mullahs nation at the hands of her pet. Julie, sick and certainly lonely. Mother. Is that

splain, or justify what she did. Well, that's up to you to decide. Isn't it Andrea was sense to over forty years in prison for each count of murder and five years from one count of aggravated cruelty to animals to be served concurrently, she will be sixty years old when released, He serves the entire sense Christopher Ball, sir. Left the state of main and now lives in Ohio alibi? his pets, taken by the veterinary hospital where she were they help. Fine homes for the homeless, Pats. All sixteen of them Andrea, is, at the main state prison on all male prison for inmates doomed to have special needs the one that could be in danger if placed anywhere else

Tony bolsters bike group were part of the funeral procession. Shortly after the murders and twenty sixteen, when tragedy struck. Yet again Member of the funeral procession laid his bike down and crashed into a pickup truck dying instantly The ripples of Andrei as actions continued

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