and welcome to episode seventeen of sword and scale. I show that reveals that the worst monsters are real, The last couple of episodes we've done these long in depth pieces about a particular story, so this week we're gonna do something a little different. We're gonna cover all of the weird stories: come out over the last month and just kind of give you a cornucopia of stuff

We've also got an update on the Julie Schenecker CASE, which concluded this past week and Matthew Broussard from court chatter tv is here to tell us all about it. But first Let's get into the news Now you would never steal from your co workers. Would you start. It's unethical immoral, not only that, but hr sure would have a problem with it.

However, a man named Dennis Lordy of Old Bridge New Jersey did just that and in a big way, the fifty nine year old was indicted on charges of theft by deception and attempted theft by deception. Lordy worked for the Somerset County court as an administrative supervisor What county in New Jersey, which is part of the New York metropolitan area, is a lovely place great place to visit in the fall when the leaves change? Color there are lots of scenic walking trails to take a stroll. It's high point is my mountain in Bernards, Ville or some of the richest new Jerseyans live, maybe What attracted Dennis Lordi? You see Dennis likes money when he got word that a coworker of his head died. Last year he used his computer to transfer one hundred and thirty five thousand five hundred and seventeen dollars from retirement account into an account he'd set up for himself and then he

attempted to change the primary beneficiary for her group life insurance and pension benefits too, who else but himself again. This was just minutes after the caretaker reported her death, but the division of pension benefits denied the change along with the payment of four hundred and thirty thousand six hundred dollars, because the corpse can't make changes to their benefits plan according to their policy, he'd been arrested. Lordi said it was a mistake, but then he the claim that the woman, I told him that she would give him the money best part is Dennis Lordy had a salary '

of ninety thousand six hundred dollars, which makes his ridiculous crime even more absurd We had a fascinating tale about what it's like to be. A bad neighbor and here's

their story along the same line. Thirty two year Old Heather Roberts of Oakland Park, was fed up with crime in her neighborhood. Of course, if you're fed up with crime, you probably shouldn't be living at a mobile home park, but she decided to do something about it. She marched up to her neighborhood Hoia president and knocked on his front door. She had an idea you want to discuss paying law officers to patrol the neighborhood as part of a crime watch initiative. The president of the association said they don't have any money to do that Apparently Heather Roberts didn't like that and wouldn't take no for an answer. Words were exchanged President of the H admits. He raised his voice at Roberts and Two was calm when describing her id outside the president's house. Enraged after the President racist voice. She started cursing and stood in his doorway, keeping him from shutting the front door. Yeah make to leave, but she refused

She finally went to leave and shut the door on the man's arm. When deputies arrived, she told them that she never tried to get in the president's house. She told deputies that the president was a liar and then he had done bad things in the community. Crime had been a problem in the neighborhood which, according to the story is pretty accurate. Roberts has been charged with battery assault. Burglary of an occupied residence. That's too bad. They didn't have some sort of crime prevention program in that neighborhood. And speaking of neighborhoods, you probably know someone in your neighborhood who is a little a hoarder? I think we all do. Occasionally you run across a particular type of hoarder, an animal hoarder. Those are the worst and that disk. Laney, Jacobson who's, a self proclaimed crazy cat, lady to turn herself in. Police late last month because she was hoarding two and thirty. Nine cats in her Philidel

your home. She was with possession and Searcy to possess Keta mean an anesthetic. Used to knock out animals no get on whether Jacobson used the Cada mean on the cats. According to reports, Jacobs was operating a licensed animal shelter out of her home called animals in crisis the irony is the animals truly in crisis were in our home and how do you get a license to have two hundred and thirty nine cats in a residence by the way employee of the shelter claims. The cats were being abused at everything. The neglected, is an urine everywhere. It was really awful for us to be working in. He said authorities, turn that the condition of her home was deplorable and unsanitary. Two hundred and thirty nine cats. How could it not be? In any case, at least you did the right thing. Ca has rescued many of the felines from her cat den gosh. Can you just imagine the smell in there. She

to get nine life sentences. Ok, bad joke! and sticking to the animal theme. It's may which means we just I had the Kentucky Derby and you know if you were like me- you're probably sitting there on your

out in front of your tv with a mint julep, and probably your laptop open next to you with a gambling site where you can place a few bets during the race which is probably illegal, but that's not the stories about. You're one of the lucky ones to be able to actually attend the Kentucky Derby. Then hopeful- You weren't part of this group A Minnesota, groom and ten friends driving their rv to a bachelor party at the Kentucky. Derby ended their trip abruptly when they stopped pick up some friends open the search bay found corpse. Yeah. That's right found a corpse in the rv that they were driving. The man found a body in Winona, one hundred eighteen miles southeast of Minneapolis when they opened apartment that was accessible only from the outside of the RV. Officials said they have not identified the deceased or deterred. The cause of death? The men began their group trip in Anoka North of twin cities and then stop

I have some friends at a Shopko store in Winona, They found the body there when they were looking for more storage That means they drove this rv with a dead body in it. For about two one slash two hours, one of the men told the media that at first they thought it was some sort of joke. Someone frank on the groom and then We realized that was not the case Unfortunately, the party didn't make its way down at Churchill downs for the Kentucky Derby, but one of the men later tweeted the last Four hours takes the cake. But this has been the most eventful, exciting depressing, unbelievable epic, terrable weeks of my life, I'm sure the body that was in the RV probably didn't share that sentiment

and we have a new entry for the parents of the Year award in Pennsylvania, where a first grader instead of bringing a bag lunch brought bags of heroin to school and he started handing them out? He gave one to at least one classmate before teachers caught him with pockets full of drugs. Two days later, the boys, fifty six year old grandmother, was arrested on charges of endangering the welfare of children and drug offenses for allegedly losing track of the heroin while babysitting wow. According to the criminal complaint, Pauline Belinski Munion was babysitting, her grandson and a one year old, baby last Thursday at a residence Inn, Medina Pennsylvania, Belinski Munion, had brought heroin into the house and lost track of it. He shouldn't lose track of the one year old. According to the district attorney's office, which refer to her as a known heroin user, which makes me wonder why she was babysitting,

Needless to say, the next day in the seven year old brought several bags of heroin with them to call elementary school teachers over heard the child. Talking about the bags and later found nine bags of what proved to be heroin nine bags as well. The kid would not make a very good drug dealer. Just you know going on about it like that. In any case, he initially claimed he found the heroin in the schoolyard but later had to admit he got it from home. The bags were stamped Victoria's secret and then, after that there seems to be a big brawl between the District attorney Tom Hogan and the school, apparently Tom Hogan thinks that the school should have called nine one one and notified the DA's office immediately, and apparently that didn't happen. But I can understand why you want a bunch of cops showing up with guns drawn around a group of seven year olds following her Massillon Scheme Onion was charged and held with bail, set at twenty five thousand dollars, good riddance and not chasing the dragon behind bars.

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Temple University Phd student reached her quota of both did earlier this month, when a man sitting next to her on the septa route. Twenty three bus pulled out is p Nis and began to masturbate. Video woman, of course did what anyone else would do in this brave new world of technology. And started filming it. We like to keep it class, we heard sword and scale So here's some audio. You really want to keep doing that kids touching is open exposing himself on my phone,

It's with a shot of a young man appears to be in today's usage a bus and the young woman. That's taking the video which you never actually see in the video is sitting right next to him just to be the only way person on the bus and, as you can hear from the video has a bit of a british or australian camera pans down for a few seconds, an you clearly see the man finished his deed. Absolutely crazy, or do you see how many people are on this bus, child behind you, You are disgusting, the woman saying I'm about to go off?

is the mother holding the baby? in the row right behind where the man was caught. Masturbating yeah is that wise man seems to come out of his days and start looking around and wondering why everybody sort of gang up on, like well. This is a life usually get away with the family that I did My second question: soon, as you pulled it out, images. I need to tell you not to touch yourself in a boyfriend out bus, just someone actually to tell you that you don't know much, You need to get off that bus. Now.

I love how he tries to play it off and she responds by saying to somebody actually need to tell you not to yourself in public. It's at this point that the man is escorted off. The bus, Philadelphia have issued an arrest warrant and are Looking for the man, but if not yet released his name,

Now why you would have to on a bus is a mystery to me. I mean, let's, let's be honest, right, a lot of porn, and who doesn't love their porn? Well I'll tell you one man who really does love their porn enough to marry. That's Chris Sevier from Florida, of course, any love. Porn so much that he

to Mary it this month. He filed a motion seeking to marry his pornography filled computer and I've Florida judge throughout the motion. Thank goodness Finally, this was some sort of stunt. Of course, apparently he filed the motion to intervene on a federal lawsuit that seeks for Florida to recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. Heavier games in the motion that if gay men and women can marry, even if they corresponding sexual parts. Then he should be able to marry his laptop, which he As is his preferred sexual object, this after he sued Apple for selling him a laptop without adding a pornography, filter or warning him against the dangers of pornography. Dangerous. This guy sounds like a real nut job. No pun intended the previous lawsuit. He said that before purchasing the macbook a k, a his fiance, he had never seen you just don't

across it when he missed typed facebook and then developed an addiction that is ruined his marriage said Status with the Tennessee BAR Association was transferred to disability inactive status in twenty eleven and is ocean in Florida was tossed again. Pun intended with the judge calling it moved from reality and possibly satirical

not to mention hilarious and have you ever opened up a fortune cookie and wondered what's inside? Well, hopefully, it's not parts of the twenty six year old man who met his fate in the industrial dough mixer at the one ton food corporation last month, the world's largest manufacturer of folded, crisp cookies, known as fortune cookies, makes more than four million a day in their Brooklyn Factory in a smaller number in their Houston Texas plant. All their manufacturing is automated, with the exception of one line. This allows many parts of the process to be done manually so that small amounts of fortune cookies can be special messages

unfortunate victim was an employee at the ones on food corporation and was operating on industrial dough. Mixer of fellow employee found the deceased man in the machine. No word on how the man ended up inside the industrial, dough, mixer, but police say that no foul play is suspected comment section of this. Article is filled with some of the worst puns ever told which I'll spare you from but I'll just say that this article is probably rearrange my worst ways to die list. Just a tad call sometimes do the wrong thing their parents. They get in trouble to drive with

spend license. They get pulled over by the Tennessee police and nineteen Dallas Archer did just that however, when a female corrections officer at Kingsport jail performs a search on nineteen year old, Dallas Archer. She discovered an unknown object lodged in the young woman's crotch. She alerted another female officer who accompanied her for a further examination. Officers, found a loaded, five shot, four inch. Twenty two caliber mini revolver, concealed in the young woman's vagina, the gun was stolen last year during an auto burglary, the man whose car was burglarized was John South there, the seventy year old retired car salesman. He said about his gun that he'd make sure to give his quote little fellow a bath and believe each of these I think he was talking about his gun. Archer was with gun possession and introducing contraband into a penal facility? she was later released on six thousand dollars bond

surprisingly, this isn't the first time that someone's been caught with a gun concealed in there. Well, you know, Last year and Oklahoma woman was arrested with a loaded, five shot. Revolver sticking out of her vagina, it would seem, like a very dangerous place to carry a loaded. Firearm said Pontotoc, district attorney. Chris Roth. If it goes off, it's only going in one place, the woman Christy Roth also had two bags of what turned out to be methamphetamine hidden in baggies in her butt sounds classy Lady if you, in anywhere near a television set in the last week you probably caught a glimpse of the Julie, Schenecker murder trial. We asked hi

Okay, so expert, Kathy, Roussin of court chatter, tv to fill us in on the case in January of two thousand eleven Julie, Chen, occur, shot and killed her two teenagers, there's no dispute about Calix with her daughter was sixteen and her son beau was thirteen she, uh, the the next morning, her mother, kept trying to get ahold of her and couldn't after she'd, received kind of an incoherent email from Julie. So her mother called the place 'cause. Her mother lived in Texas in the checkers live in Florida and her mother called the police to do a welfare check and that's in the police found her outside on her deck passed out in a bathrobe with blood on her an and then eventually found pork Alexus sixteen year old and her bed and found bow in the family car in the garage both had been shot in the head twice.

Little covered with blankets, and there was Julie, Schenecker she never denied doing it. So how did the murders actually occur? Where did they occur, Do you have a sequence of events of how that happened? So we do because she told the whole story to the police So she drove was driving bow to soccer practice around seven p, pm and she's get some journal writings, and so we know we know some things between that and that in the police interview and she says in her writing, she had planned to kill BO in the car, but he'd gotten mouthy, like his sister, and so she pulled. The gun out, while, while he was bending over in the passenger seat, putting his cleats on and he had said, and put that away, and she said at first said this is a toy gun. And then she says he argued to put that away right. Now, I'm going to punch you an she shot, him in the head.

Taking him up from picking him up. Soccer practice taken in the soccer text mom in the van taking her thirteen year old to soccer practice and she uh the first shot went through the windshield, so the first shot didn't hit him, so he knew it coming, and then she shot him in the head and then she tells police she pushes his head back up and she come in the mouth area and he does. He has a boat with him out there, because she wanted to shoot him in his quote: mouthy mouth, oh god, yeah. Was he already dead at that point? Do you know yeah yeah, the medical examiner said the fatal shot with a shot to the head, and while the medical examiner can't determine which shot came, first Julie told the police, so she drove back home with Boeing. Still in the seat belt. In the passenger side of the Van pulled, the car in the garage shut, the garage TIM in the Van when inside the house and found Calix

She was at a desk working on homework at a computer and She goes in there and she she tells police that she walked in and said. I love you and Calyx didn't turn around an she shot her in the back of the head. So we think that Canix didn't know anything that was coming and that was the fatal shot. Then she walked around to the front of calyx and shot her in the mouth and she says in his place in interrogation. In the mapping out. She said the about both kids in their skin and then also another trying to use the Word South South emails. Well yeah, then she drug Calix over to her bed, the bed put her in bed covered with a blanket went back downstairs into the garage covered both put the blanket. Then she immediately send an email to her husband. Now, it's important to know her

the colonel in the army and he had just been deployed over it to Afghanistan, just for it to the twelve day deployment, and so she had planned. While he was gone, and so she sends an email in the email is take date, stamped like just within thirty minutes or so of when they think the murders happened after they happened. And she sent him an email saying, hurry home we're waiting for you do you know so he said it was a twelve day deployment. How many days into the deployment did this occur? He was kind he left on the twenty, yes and he would claim back on the first, and this is on the twenty seventh, but she went on the twenty second to buy the gun, so basically, right after he left she went to buy find a job, and this is important part of the story. Well, we might want you might want to back up her defenses claiming she was insane and

they are not guilty by reason of insanity is what they have pleaded right, but she went on the 22nd to buy a gun. She drove twenty seven miles and there is a testimony that there were gun stores between her house and when she finally went to she used a credit that was in her name only that she didn't share with her husband and she bought the gun, but and there's a three day waiting period in Florida, but she didn't count on, and since this was on a Saturday, she bought the gun and because it has to be weak days, she couldn't go pick that gun back up until Thursday and Thursday as well. The killings happened, so it shows intent, and it shows that she knew right from wrong at that point. Well, that's the state. The state's argument is that's the premeditation. She put a lot of thought in this. She had lots of time to cut back out of it. The defense

It's claiming you know she wasn't just insane at that moment. She was just insane so, but she wrote in her journal that she had. She came home that day, the first time trying to buy it or she did buy it. But then she had a three day waiting period and wrote that she had planned a Saturday massacre or but now she's not going to be able to do that and then another spot. She said, um calyxes embarrassed of me. She told me that 'cause they had to go somewhere. She told me that to put makeup on. She's embarrassed at me and then she yelled at me and she said I was evil while the evil starts Thursday. So this was very much planned. That's why prosecutors are charging her with premeditated murder However, Julie Schenecker does have a lot of mental health problems just going to say I mean her mouthy mouth. That just sounds. Forgive my! which batch that crazy right. No, she is so. This is the whole case the whole and

there is a video out there. I've got it on my site of her coming, be escorted out of the playstation by the police. And they've got her in, like a white, jumpsuit 'cause they've taken her clothes, so she already looks that way and she shaking really bad. She looks like a crazy person and that's the video that everyone saw over and over and over again when this happened. He just knew yeah, so you just knew the mom was crazy. That killed her two kids. An and I kind of went into this trial like that. With that mindset thinking this lady is mentally ill. I don't know why they're charging her with first degree premeditated murder, because it's well documented for twenty years that she has bipolar with psychotic features, Now people live everyday, normal life with bipolar. She has that she has deep depression and she was starting to abuse alcohol drugs toward the end, but there were a lot of signs leading up to this killing the two months leading up to it. She got in a car, a car wreck where she was impaired. She

her husband, forced her to go to rehab. She checked herself out after eighteen days. Is that I- and this was the end of November, and this happened at the end of January and then She came home from that rehab. She stayed in bed most times the mother in law came and stayed with them and took care of the house and the kids, because Julie wouldn't get out of bed, so there was going on leading up to this. Was it Drugs are drugs and alcohol. Do we know what that was about alcohol and specifically Oxycontin cotton prescriptions, yeah she's. Also on lithium, for her bipolar and I found her at that next day she had were officially overdosed on lipstick. She had lithium toxicity, Scott toxicity in her body, so she had overdosed on lithium and crude and which is a blood thinner that she was just normally on. So she was messed up, especially during the police, interrogation or in an interview, and that was kind of a source of

can you you know, should they kept interviewing her right? But when you, when you listen to that whole interview, she she can tell you the story. She knew exactly what but she didn't really have any memory lapses or any I don't knows, she's just very slow. During a lot of it, but it she's pretty clear on everything that happened. I think why they kept going with the NY. It's now been allowed into the trial, because you know she she was pretty certain of what happened and then not matched up to what it happens. You understand what I'm asking you basically we're asking if you could tell us what happened starting yesterday through this morning, Let me explain to you know he explain to you what your rights are and you acknowledge each each thing that he told you we're just trying to figure out what happened last night. What happened yesterday,

Are you okay to talk to us about that? Do you want to tell us what happened? so you just had a birthday, Alright, again, hi Julie. Is it schenecker? You got it Ok, I get it right. One hundred and thirteen of thirty one, one thousand three hundred and thirty one have had these rights read to me. I just read them to you. I understand them and I'm willing to talk at this time. Is that a true statement? Are you willing to talk to us? I thought you talk Ok, no threats or promises of any kind have been made to coerce me to make a statement, nobody's threatened you or anything to make you talk. Correct, ok, somebody's or anything, no, no

all what I want you to do is I'm here, I'm with this aside real quick. So I decided to wait. So this is the form I just read to you. I need your initials in their verses. I nt that Little box there, and this is just saying that you have been read it. It's all on audio so right in here to share this with this technology, and you understand yes ma'am right there right there right here. Right there right there right right, there, I will see you bye. Do you wear glasses, yeah, okay right now right down here

That's interesting initials here answer your name for me right on this line. So it says print name there you go right, there go ahead, just print your name. Hey. You guys. Are you leaving the kids, where they live which is still conducting investigation to figure out what happened. That's what we're talking to you to see if you can tell us What all happened right there in just the signature right there ok, you finish that up. Alright anything,

right there in the life. You already finished that I just need your signature here now. Ok now how long have you been? yeah, if your finger in the World- ok right there right there so anyways. By her own admission and she had been, alcohol and oxycontin, and they better keep factor. This is not taking the anti psychotic drugs as prescribed either. Not taking them enough suddenly stopping them taking too many, so she was getting messed up. So there's no doubt there's a mental health issue here but she has to meet the definition of legally insane to not know to not kill your children.

Do we know anything about her history of mental health issues? Did that are fat with her family aware of this, where they trying to get her help where they doing anything. So well aware. Well, aware, is a thing we've had in this case emails that were released and Parker. Her husband had been sent. Emails between her and him between he'd sent it to her family, her parents, her brother, her sister? talking about how bad she was getting and that she refused she wouldn't stay in rehab. She won't get out of bed she's, not taking her medecins the way she supposed to come in and- and he says in the email to the mother. You know I've been dealing with this for twenty years. She came any broken, so everyone is known, but she was a russian linguist in the army. She was an interrogator, so she's, not a stupid woman who, who She was living fine with her mental disease, mental health, disease and medic.

Right at the start of style and she had ups and downs during those twenty years. There was a period of time back when the debate, the kids were just babies, but she was hospitalized for nine months. So there's definitely a history, but she seemed to be functioning in handling everything. Ok until the about the six months before these killings and then Parker had enough and she had written that he's going to leave me he's going to divorce me. He's writing emails to her family. Saying look. I've been doing this for twenty years. I don't know how much more I can do. She was seen a new psychiatrist, and he Parker asked her in emails allow to give the release of information to the psychiatrist. That would allow the psychiatrist to talk to her husband because he wanted to be involved. Her her mental health care and she refused to let that happen. He was trying and the kids started. Into their teenage years and their mom started

a little bit worse and they don't want anything to do with her and that's where this all started: spiraling out of control for Julie, Schenecker, her kids, don't like her. They don't respect her they're talking back to her saying we're not after she got in a car wreck in November they're saying we don't ever want to ride in the car with you, you're, you're, crazy or irresponsible, and we know this because there's she writes, I think down in this journal and there's emails where Parker saying to her look. The kids are scared to drive in a car with you and he's a so talking with her about how calyxes acting 'cause. She says, she's completely disrespect me and she needs to be in counseling and Parker, saying we'll get her some count but you need to act like you're, the adult in this situation. You know so there's a lot of firing going on with her children and they're, not disrespectful to their dad at

and they don't behave that way with their dad, but it started to happen with her and I think that's where we come into this whole mouth, email, kids, I and she finally writes in her journal that she thinks Parker is going to leave and her kids don't respect her and don't want anything to do with her and she can't live alone. Wow an yeah So what is the defense put up, as other I mean? Are they just going with the crazy card? Is there anything else that they have? yeah. I mean- and you know that's it's a it's a good case for mental disease but uh, and so they put up their psychiatrists in the doctors they put up the they could show the path she was headed down. The defense very interesting Lee Has blamed the husband for leaving and going to Afghanistan and not making arrangements for those kids dairy cow, dairy, defend this country. I know I know, but they say he knew

so you could tell from the emails he knew what kind of shape she was in an knew that she could have been responsible for the kids, but he testified. The husband testified at the trial and he said but yeah. She didn't get out of bed all that time, but things got a little bit better she's starting to get out of bed. She anywhere they had her 50th birthday party. They went out to dinner for that and he said I got deployed and I with her on the bed in our bedroom and, I said, Can you handle this or do you want me to get help to come in and he said she look me in the eyes. He said I got this and he said- and I believed her and so- and you know so he left and then she put she play on the whole thing. While I was gone so like we were talking about on this precast with Jeff, right, there's, definitely mental health issues. Here, she's, not she's, not completely all there and an and having all the different meds on board and her mental health isn't isn't all there in that's how she gets his spot, where she kills her kids, but in the state

Florida to be legally insane. You have to one, not realize what you did and two I don't know what was wrong and she told the police right afterwards the worst thing I've ever done in my life, so that now she knows it's wrong right. She said this is this is going to destroy Parker, so she knows she did something bad enough to store has been she well after she did that after she killed the kids, she wrote that you got the Parker this you put sticky notes around the house in you put: stick. They have a big family calendar in the kitchen. Like a paper calendar, you know an she put a sticky note on the day he supposed to come back, which is February first first, so she has to like flip them up up and on February first he put the sticky note telling him where to find the she wanted him to come home and find them, and she put two sticky notes on the front door. Saying the one says to the neighbors I took the kids to New York City will back be back on Tuesday.

This one Parker supposed to come home, so she doesn't want anyone coming in that house and find anybody and sarcasm right right, yeah, so so that these are the things that she's thinking out and doing before during and after that she's thinking through now she said she wanted to kill her. Some people are skeptical, skeptical of that? But I'm not. I believe she thought she that was her intention. All along was to kill the kids and then herself after she killed the kids. She read a lot of, yeah. They found the going got. It was full right. She re loaded the gun, but then she said I think in in her writings that she saw the damage the gun did to the kids and she was afraid she couldn't go through with it or one shot wasn't going to kill her and she wouldn't be finish it. So then she wanted to overdose on pills. So that's what happened is that night? She started taking a bunch of pills and drinking and that's when they found her passed out the next day and she had all this coumadin and lithium

So her plan is far. It was to have Parker find all three of them into this really destroy. Right and- and that's that's why to the to the state can also say look this isn't just some crazy insane, lady she had bought into this. Yes, you want it. She wanted. She thought her husband was going to leave her and her kids would go with him because they didn't want anything to do with her and she didn't want to be alone. So that's what this case is about. Now, it's going to be very interesting to see what this jury does with this now is: was there a history of of marital issues before this? Is that why she's trying to get back at her husband for some reason well Isn't anything like infidelity or anything and nothing like that's ever come out, but they had I'm in um, family counseling, but there's not a lot, there's, not a history. Now there there are many people, and so they never they

moved a lot. They moved around a lot and some are saying that that's part of her problem that she could never get one steady psychiatrist on steady drugs and have steady care because there was lots of times switching but the medications which happens a lot when you have a mental health disorder but um They moved around a lot, but nobody. Said their marriage was unhappy. It was coming down to it, though I'd like that last year, before all this happened, he was he was getting fed up with all of us and the the kids were getting older and within and things were changing for sure in that last year? I will say also that there is she's done some, things in the courtroom really, but only, but only one thing in front of the jury so when her doctor her psychiatrist with on the stand testifying about all her medicines, and this wasn't thing in one of the emails 'cause. Her husband had been

trying to contact her psychiatrist through email- and he was with the psychiatrist- is saying you Know- did do the laws. I can't talk to you about her care, and so he was asking her. Will you please allow your doctor talk to me, but one of the emails he wrote to the doctor He said you know you put Julie on lithium and she says that you told her. She could have two glasses of wine. A day with that- and I don't I don't think, that's true and then and so on there are when he was asked. Did you tell her she could drink with these drugs? He said. No, I told her that she could not drink with these drugs and she stood up. Halfway out of her chair and said you, told me I could have two drinks and two oxygen, two oxys that was her quote. You told me I could have two drinks and two and the judge immediately sent the jury out well and and the hard way I would love to have him on every trial 'cause. He doesn't, he doesn't. He doesn't mess around and he said Miss Schenecker your

Things are going to talk to you right now and they're, going to tell you that you better control yourself. Well, I will properly You you her wait very first meeting when you're talking about all the bad thing is it can happen in mixing alcohol with drugs. You need to Staying from drinking you can't drink, when you're taking these meds. Didn't you? Yes, and she refused. She said, I'm not going to follow that. Yes, even though you had formally and fully advised her that by doing that, she's making a choice they could be adverse to her health. Essentially, yes, You told me I could just just just about there just a moment, jury out your mind in my pointer admonitions,

all rights. Let me explain: let me know out for your going to speak to you now you do that again. I'll. Have you appropriately restrain you understand? Do you understand and yeah. So then, then, and then we've seen as viewers a couple of other things, so she will, she will get. Scored in by the deputies handcuffed every day and she was the end she was coming in after a break. That way and she our somebody in the gallery- and we know now from Mandy who's in the courtroom that it was one of Parker's, your husband's friends their x, by the way the husband divorced her while she's been arrested. I'm good, if you She saw one of his friends in the gallery and she gave him this wink. I have that too

the last article I wrote, or you can go and find it. It is the creepiest like it is creepy. That is you look at that and you think she's crazy, she's crazy. Then, today the guards in it's always two females that export her an the guards go, get get her back to the defense table in started, take the cuffs off and something happens, and it's either. She jerks her arm and the guard grabbed her and she turns her head and with the camera angle, you can't see which you can't really make out her lips, but she says something to that guard and the guards immediately talked. Attorneys and take her back out like she had to go for a time out. She said something to that guard. So there's been a couple of things happened in the courtroom, then you know? I would love to know what that is right, Yes, yes and I hurried tweeted right to Mandy when that happened. 'cause she said sitting in the court, which is our front row, and I said what I should have.

I'm hoping you could tell me they couldn't hear it here. It is not here, so you know she. She has issues, and so I don't know I don't know it's very, very interesting case recorded this interview in the early part of the week. Putting together this episode, the jury back with a verdict. Court has reviewed the find In order one hand this to the clerk of the court I'll direct first at the clerk and review the first form and advise advise them so we find it in order to following that I'll direct you to post the burning Bush in current council, you please rise, I reviewed those vertical not find in order just posted version, state of Florida versus Julie, Schenecker case eleven CF, one thousand three hundred and seventy six trial division. Three we the jury, find as follows: the count one of the charge, the defendant is guilty of first degree: murder

It did actually possess and discharge a firearm causing death we. The jury find his files count two of the charge the defendant is guilty of, first degree, murder then it did actually possess and discharge a firearm causing death. So say we all dated this fifteen day may two thousand and fourteen following the verdict. Seneca was allowed to address the court. She polish, to everyone, except Yeah everybody in this court room just

he couldn't collect it, collect so this is possible. All of us not just discord. Anybody who knew it's info. Children's runs. Teachers, coaches, relatives, Kelly symbols, aunts, cousins, grandparents, uncles, nieces nephews. Everyone has been so deeply affected and I understand there are people who are affected by this

'cause, it may have just read about it in the paper. It may be a child looked at their mommy and said mommy. Are you ever going to shoot me? oh you know that this could happen. Hello, I apologize for what happened What are take responsibility. When I was there no shot. I don't know what, understand that your owner, the judicial system in United States best in the world,

we were short women, one hundred and twenty five times for driving. Close to draw stand here in front of you, as I understand you might have service as well, yeah, and serve my country and, I probably said the first code of conduct as a soldier Eighty three hits. I said I'm an american fighting man stringing horses, which protect my country in our way of life, and I am prepared to give my life in their independence

Probably it changed, we're no longer providing men were fighting in the forces. I believe that in you what you've done? You run a great court. I have no experience. From what I'm seeing you control the court tremendously well cutting attorneys and we've supported me and I trusted them, and it worked so well in all those people behind me at my team, put in many many hours well in this case

I would never be able to repay all these people. I don't know if you were paid but to say thank you. So thank you to the entire american judicial system. I am not playing your honor in that is hard, so Thank you ma'am. Any questions from one children with one people to try to find a home for in okay hi. Do they are in no pain,

and they are full line and enjoy everything. Anything ever has to offer yes turning now. And keeping them safe until we get there but their loved ones. All of us.

More? Ok? Well, I guess we're out of masturbation puns. So that's the end of the show special thanks to Kathy Roussanne from court chatter tv for her insight into this case, and if you love to follow high profile court case is definitely check out our site. It's the place to be during any of these trials. There's a fantastic community there that follows each trial minute by minute and you can chat and watch along. It's a lot of fun and a great resource if you enjoy the show, please help support it, but Itunes subscribe and leave us a positive review like us on Facebook, Twitter and Google Plus, and send us a message on Skype at sword and scale. Let us know what you think of the show and if there's a case you'd like us to cover, please let us know thanks again for joining us stay safe and we'll see you next time

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