Loving parents Jason and Julie live on the California coast with their three young children and have the dream life, or so it seems. Jason is a respected and loved teacher and coach while Julie earned a Harvard degree. But Julie is a hoarder who has given up on her stay-at-home role as a mom, and Jason has had enough. One of them is highly trained in firearms and one has no experience at all. One of them ends up dead, and the other claims no responsibility. Will the children be left with one parent, or no parents?
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privilege what a word it seems to be a very popular word these days, but despite its over use and abuse in the political sphere, North South does have some meaning
a privileged person. You have an advantage over others, whether you were born with it or it was handed to the kind of implies a you didn't necessarily earned disadvantage, for example, someone whose parents pay for their expensive college
Education is privileged,
or someone who inherits quite a lot of money and can buy new house without having to even think about it, let alone
safer down payment. That's it
Much person does not pay.
people and academia. These days telling bothers you, ve worked hard, their own lives to make a couple bucks that they're, the ones that are privileged instead.
And who has it heard of the term Karen by now, the privileged white woman throwing a fit in the park or at the mall,
because someone else is in doing what she wants them to the term. Privileged is a close neighbour to the word spoiled, but it's a little different when we think of spoiled. We tend to think of brandy little children, but have you ever met a spoiled adult, it's always about them and because they expect things to come easy for them, if no tantrum, when it does it, sometimes it's just a little bit of acting out, but sometimes when things get really tough for a spoiled adult, the only
reality check, the Gatt is a jail so.
California dreaming
California is one of those few states in which a lot of people.
Love to live in a thick. It afforded benefit
past, be rapid, homeless problem and political climate.
speaking of climate
Southern California especially boasts the perfect climate. Take cross bad for you
Emma located between LOS Angeles in San Diego or the temperatures
its beautifully between sixty four and seventy seven degrees.
every single day
doesn't that sound, lovely Minnesota add to that
was bad, is right on the ocean with magnificent cliffs and beaches. Glistening with
I said, however,
The price tag for a rather ordinary home in this land of paradise is about. Eight hunt
grand, unless you want to live in a double wide trailer on a very small lot,
Julian Jason Harper were lucky enough to afford a home on Badger Lane, one that would
on a cool million and twenty twenty one and
about forty thousand dollars at the time they purchased at twenty years ago,
Jason and his wife lived in an upper middle class. Gated community, with everything going further and Jason had landed
his ideal job here
they beloved math teacher and volume
coach Carlsbad,
school. For many years,
where he was loved by his students and his players
and he had attended you see allay, but
his childhood, he was raised by his parents to love education.
Did well in school. He was,
excellent student- and he also enjoy playing the many sports that his loving parents put it into? He accept
because of his height in bed,
the ball in volleyball going into high school. He was over six feet tall. He began
the captain of his volleyball team and is basketball team
but he didn't just do well in sports when it was time to apply the college's. He did so well in his academics that he got into the nations top universities each
was to attend. You see, outlay
during his time at you see, allay he not only excelled academically, but one national,
Petitions on the men's. Volleyball team
after graduating he began teaching at crawls, bad, high school and so
Dangerously studying for his postgraduate degree at Chapman University well,
during this time the Jason was living after you see like living in El Segundo, working as a teacher
and studying to get his masters degree that he may
a girl named Julie, see hack at a party
they were very much from different worlds. Julie
was a? U S, girl and she
from a well to do. Family Jason was you sail a man and came from a working class family.
but none the less they hit it off, and these
dating
and Julie was a good looking young blonde.
Girl from you are seeing she came from money and she
very appealing to Jason.
Not only did Julie come into the picture loaded with piles of money, but she was also exceedingly bright Julia
arbour.
Through her own resume talks
Tell she went to Harvard Universe.
City study
you see
got her masters degree from cows, stay long beach and got into you see Davis LAW School
Is a very smart woman
on November. Fourth, two thousand one Jason and Julie married and moved to their carlsbad home two years later.
but how did they afford a former thousand dollar home in two thousand one on Jason salary? As a teacher,
That kind of house was way above Jason's Pegrenne at the time,
in we wanted to be a state home mom in lieu of using her Harvard degree. I mean hey
not knocking a woman's right to do anything. She wants, but
Julie, wanted at all
Jason's mother told us how she
when she first met Julie. First dreadful.
Was when they were dating and she broke up with him because she was
sure she wanted to be with just a teacher. That comment told me that a teacher salary would not be enough.
For her Julie's love for Jason, overcame her misgivings about his working class. Salary
and they married anyway.
You see. Julie was born with a silver spoon in her mouth
remember that show silver spoons
young Little Ricky Schroeder. Writing is train around the living room and who can forget
It was the early start of Alfonzo Ribeiro Career, the eighties anyway,
that term silver spoon peasant,
sting history
explanation is that during the middle ages, before people learn how to set a proper table way before
Martha Stewart Etiquette, of course, guests, work,
spected to bring their own spoons, and I care
spoon with them
much wherever they went. Just
like. Today we carry your keys or wallet.
are doing now. Mister king s, silver spoon class up the place,
If a person showed up to dinner with a silver spoon, it was clear they had certain social status like land ownership, but it did
denote exceptionally high status. It is sir
is more of an indicator that a person wasn't a surf or slave
turn under their fingernails from allow
hard day at work. Julie
no surf she.
The kind of life she was accustomed to, but no worries
There was already a safety net in place because
Julie came from a family of money that they had an x,
irritation that she was going to contribute because she
continued, even in
adult hood,
thirty, nine years old or so
getting allowance from her father and that she was expected to contribute you're fired
their contributed to both of his daughters, adult daughters and would give them money even into their marriage, display
Julie's prestigious, Harvard degree
was to be a state home mom and the cup
eventually created a family to boys.
and a girl at the time.
Joy seemed like any other mom in the neighborhood taking
However, first born boy packing lunches taking in the school and other activities, human
Active role in the community and at the school
The same was true for her second child: a girl
Julie was changing by this point.
might the financial help from her parents there?
still seem to be enough money for her satisfaction and for her
Spending habits, Julie, harbour
spending excessively spending money that this family didn't have because they had
purchase just a house in a very nice gated community of Carlsbad House. There was far too expensive for Jason Harbour.
Enough of his full time. Teacher salary
to somewhere in the range, I think of sixty some thing. Sixty thousand
or more, but essentially it was not an extravagant salary and, at the same time, Julie. Harper was
ending in spending in spending
came another baby boy
by this time, Julie was in pain, much of the time from an auto immune condition causing arthritis
the more steroids she needed, the less mothering she dead and the more she spent
while Julie was becoming somewhat reclusive. Spending more and more time isolated in the bedroom, Jason
Assuming more and more of her responsibilities,
their kids remember
they didn't realize other moms did most of the cooking and diaper changing,
because in their house, Jason did those things.
The point that Jason was the only one doing things when it was working.
the neighbour, kids remembered being excited
to go to the harbour house after school, because Jason would be around a shoot. Hoops with them
was a loving and a very helpful son to me and to his father.
he had become a man of high character with high standards
He was also a lover respected high school math teacher and coach. Most
of all Jason was devoted and hands on father.
Dearly loved his three children, while Jason
was picking up the slack Julie,
developing an addiction not only
spending, but to prescription pain, medication
which only exacerbated her isolation and quickly fed into other habits? Bad ones
she started, buying things like clothing, that she didn't wear
pretty soon these things.
and a pile up, if you ve ever watched,
the show hoarders. You know it
Actually, what this looks like
We also know that these vices can fit into the same picture together
playing off of each other a vicious cycle. If you will
if you ve never watched the show hoarders, my God go
it's actually pretty amazing, but here's an expert on the subject of a classic proof.
The horrors of a person in their fifties. Who
lacks clothing newspapers,
magazines,
lots and lots of containers bar
His bags paper bags and so forth, and all
those items are usually collected in the middle of the room and they're all dumped in a pile
and so it is the turn of the three basic features that we see in hoarding,
that better behaviors and experiences that it a little bit different than those of the rest of us. One is hazardous
acquisition of these things and the acquisition,
happens in a couple of different ways. Most people who horde
engage and excessive levels of acquisition, either by compulsively buying things or compulsively acquiring freedom
remember in Julie's case she was used to a certain lifestyle kind of passion
whereas they say these days boogie she liked to spend
And this was getting out of hand
much so that she wrapped up credit cards and jeopardize the family budget in a pretty big way.
Jason Julie began arguing about our spending habits, her lack of involvement with household duties, her
pills and are pile
of junk the end of two thousand and nine. The
master, bedroom and bathroom had become deeply cluttered and filled with bags
boxes stacks of papers at a large shopping bag overflowing with her empty pill. Bottles at some point
Julie contemplated getting a job or two
to help manage the mounting bills, but these
first never came to fruition. Meanwhile,
sinking deeper and deeper interest
created mess here,
is a key figure in the story who became familiar with the Harpers family life, among others,
so many prescription bottles from various pharmacies in again
three stars in the area. I mean dozens and dozens of bottles, both full and empty,
were closed. Strewn all over from their bedrooms and their closets,
I think she was kind of a mess between the pills in being
is organised and she seemed to have
lots and lots of clothes.
they were new, there's still Hanan closet with their tags on it and they are on the floors and the beds
Elsie, looked disorganized pop in a lot of pills,
and she was trying to find yourself in the job market. I think she had had a lot of different jobs. She had gone to one
for school USA.
Sandro had a good education, I think
initially to have some good jobs
I dont know where, somewhere along the line, Thank started,
the money was running out. Despite
the thousands of dollars her own family, it contributed towards her adult allowance. Julie was becoming desperate to fund her indulgences, mostly consisting of clothing, purses and pills,
How did husband, Jason react? Well,
according to Julie. It wasn't good a c d
another behind closed doors.
My heart: wasn't it
Man, I worse,
very many me
so are you guys rule is that alas
only now years after
True,
for years,
still recovery for many years.
then he saw
a different story was beginning to emerge
but only told by Julie,
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Julie and Jason Harper,
should have had it all
a beautiful home on the California Coast
three young, beautiful children, a great community to live in,
Support in families, Julie
and especially support of family, one that endorse Trow lifestyle with a step and to help out with their costly mortgage.
but Juliet medical condition that led to a drug addiction,
he had something else: a vote
that she compulsively filled with stuff.
Lots of stuff everywhere.
Julie's issues had begun to cause serious problems in her marriage to Jason,
and now Julie was finally admitting that Jason had been abusive to her for thirty years, proclaimed
included, parading her be little
Her
and everything short of beating her case
a trouble understanding, Jason, he yelled, but don't force
into going somewhere until you give me my three thousand dollars the big
had become so incessant that on August, second, twenty twelve Julie was the one who filed for divorce report.
That Jason was virtually abusive,
views have been going on for thirty years
he was swearing at her in front of the kids grabbing arrest stirring arguments any.
pushing her. He also,
had the audacity to cut the purse strings.
shutting her out of their joint accounts,
This wasn't going to stop Julie from continuing her out of control. Spending
She began riding checks to herself fraudulently
from Jason's personal bank account without
hence of dollars,
store,
thousand dollars from Jason, Harpers solar. Can't you see this
couple had a plan that maybe, unlike many other mare, traditional marriages, were
times, they had separate bank accounts and they had agreements to contribute
Britain money to the marriage
and Jason had his own solo account and on this day, Julie Harbour, went and fraudulently store money from him each time she did it very smart stay.
Under the five thousand dollar fraud alert limit
would trigger a red flag, Julie, heart,
opened a brand new safety deposit Box with
Jason's knowledge sharing
stood herself as the sole renter, not Jason, and she missed
P, o box as her dress,
The badger lane address that they were living at
replace three thousand dollars inside
that safety, deposit Box,
That same day, on that same bank, she also opened up to brand new savings accounts, one
a thousand dollars in which she placed a thousand dollars and then
and a second account and placed five hundred dollars into that. That's August boy.
the third thing I want to tell you about it:
on Saturday August. Fourth, she
and withdrew over eleven thousand dollars. She went to the
hey spank and she withdrew
ten thousand dollars out of
daughter, Jackie's dormant,
College Fund account
in between shopping self, medicating, sleeping and stealing Julie.
To play games with Jason
we're not talking about the game of life for trouble or clue.
But even monopoly. However,
Propria these games would be we're talking about
messing with his head
Popular game that lots of women play.
How do I get in trouble for that? Would in any case, at this
point in their relationship. The bedroom had been divided in half by a mattress with Jake
as part of the room neatly organized into an office on one side, and you
these chaotic mess on the other that night
listen flip the mattress down and slept on it well
Julie somehow found a spot on the nightmare of her messy bed.
the morning of August, seventh, twenty twelve Julie,
up to one of our spiteful tricks,
She removed and essential piece from Jason's computer, rendering it unusable
rather than engaging in the usual sparring match, Jason was going to purchase,
another piece just before he left
Julie, magically returned it.
Started. A fight in the bedroom.
You can tell by this time that the troubled marriage went both ways.
Model. Ask Julie
I'd, let herself turn into a bloated and lethargic blob, dude or opiate addiction. The house was a hoarder's layer. The kids were being completely cared for by Jason, who also worked a full time job and money and run out
thanks to Julie, stealing it and Jason's Part B, ranted and raved verbally assaulted, and sometimes grabbed. But you gotta, ask yourself which came first.
that morning August, seventh, the kids were watching cartoons downstairs. While the parents were fighting upstairs, they were jolted out of tv land when they heard a huge clunk and screaming curious about what had happened. One of the kids went upstairs to check Julie, peaked nervously through the barely open door at simply said that their dad had fallen from a chair while going through his things. She had explained that he would need to sleep and prompted them to get ready for. Breakfast. Here is Julie's version of what happened that morning. Grabbed me eyes.
Shaking me forcefully. I was so scared. He began shoving me, but she made toward them.
Couch iconic chase, and
he was yanking, my pants top off as he was coming toward me. He said, I'm gonna kill you you, I told him stop doing claimed years and physical abuse rape, yet there was no one, including
her children who could verify these claims
very embarrassed is very embarrassed that he is doing it. I didn't want to live on my family than now and not my neighbors. Now I don't want my friend
now the scenario as told by Julie to her children was that Jason had fallen from a chair, but she insisted actually happened. Was that he was coming towards her and got in the way of her gun in reality have not fallen and he was shot in the back. The six foot seven inch man crashed to the floor in a slump, face down and Julie, added him to her collection of horror,
junk
Julie was highly trained and weapons and knew just where the aim
the bullet entered from the back and went through his heart at close range, killing him instantly
the giant man, was motionless on the floor. Yet
he claimed she ran to the bathroom and fear he would jump up and come after her. She did not perform CPR and she did not call nine hundred and eleven. We asked one of the future jurors who wants to remain anonymous, what he thought of Julie but abused housewife, defending herself or something else
Consider a monster
Your husband, instead of divorcing them and leaving her two kids parentless, I don't know how those kids are going to the grandparents, were wonderful how they adjust to that. I don't know, I don't know how I turn out. So what did Julie do? Next? She took the kids to a coffee shop for breakfast.
Pretended to be Jason and sent a message to his brother from Jason's phone, which she had
taken from the house. The message
ass Jason's brother, to relate to
parents, the harbours, but
would be able to make it for the barbecue. She asked for a play date, but the kids
at our sisters house and was denied. She went back
Neighbourhood and called one of her friends,
It did not answer because she knew it would mean an immediate played.
that's the only relationship she had with Julie and after
more unsuccessful. Attempts at play dates. She dropped
two older kids off at a place centre.
And supervised.
When she finally arrived home again, she was spotted and the driveway looking frantic.
Putting things into her vehicle. Finally,
we met up with her mom by accident and together they took their
back to her sister Amy's house. Meanwhile,
Jason's blood was poor way to the front of his face, turning it dark purple and
she read patches were forming on his chest. Ass he lay down covered.
debris dead. Ironically,
sitting. On top of all the junk covering Jason was a box of
thousand sex games by the time, the
he's got to this house and found what they found. Jason harbour
had already been dead all day
and that during this entire day the defendant never called
ways. So how did we find out about this well,
at eleven o four p m z, love
a fortnight getting close to the very next day August aid, the Carlsbad Police Department. We
heaved, a phone call from defence attorney Paul thinks he can
old and unrecorded line and asked us
to the watch commander. He spoke
The watch commander, Lieutenant Bruce, nay, looting.
Bruce may really immediately recognized the name, because MR thinks,
was the former years ago, elected district attorney
the county of San Diego and since then has gone on to have a very prominent high profile career as a criminal defence attorney,
so Lieutenant Bruce May said what
Can I do for you, MR thinks
and Mister think said he
do a welfare check at too
or two zero badger lane.
Lieutenant May said, Wall
What do we need to do a welfare check for what are we doing?
foreign, who are we checking on yours,
trying to get more information
two things said well
You'll see when you get there and you'll need a warrant
and there
is a woman.
And children that live there and you're not checking on their welfare and
Lieutenant try to get more information to find out. Remember he doesn't know what happened to find out what this is all about, and he really couldn't get any more information, so they went
the stairs and went to the right and looked in the various children's rooms, which also work quite
I mean just filled with stuff, but again they didn't see anything unusual other than a messy house. All
lay down the hall to wear the master. Bedroom is located and they were,
the open the door and why
again
What they found was
an absolute mass just so much stuff, so many belongings had been
stuffed into this master bedroom.
Did, they know, Jason Harpers deceased body lay in wait, berry
beneath blankets
laundry baskets with clothing containers with miscellaneous items, a pregnant,
see pillow.
Box of sex games,
so much stuff. They could barely open the door
and it was hard for them to even move around this very large master bedroom and
The lieutenant as well as his fellow officers began searching all around the room. They choose
over climbed over piles of staff looked around walked where they could and they
all search the of the room, and these
I couldn't find what miss
two things had called them to look, therefore,
they assembled in the middle of the room and said why Don T see why we're here
What do you think we should do and the lieutenant says? Let's start just like overturning those piles of things, and just
if there's anything under there.
And ass. They removed more and more belongings,
they realized that there was a human being under that pile
and that human being with later turn out to them to be.
other of this household Jason Harbour.
Line face down in his own bedroom under a pile.
his family's belongings, that first
It truly did look as if Jason was sleeping because there appeared to be no injuries the play
scrutinised little more?
Firstly, they know it
that there's blood come
from his side in his back and they
with his shirt and realise that there is what appears to be a bullet hole on his side towards
back. Remember
daddy Julie, was fanatically. Trying to find a place for her children to play would seem.
an ordinary day of potential played. It was actually Jews attempt at keeping her children out of the house and occupied so that she can cover
tracks, the house was law,
and strangely Jason.
Ford explorer was missing
it would later be found several streets from the house. Most importantly,
gun used to shoot Jason was also missing this war
Julie's gun
she was the one who owned it and
was trained to use firearms Jason.
Did not have a single gun registered in his name. What
did find amongst the debris and Jason's dead body were dozens of pills and pill, bottles and Julie's name. Oxy, cotton, oxy, Codeine, Hydro code out
value and even morphine
if you know anything about controlled substances, you know how hard they are to get from your doktor. They simply
do not prescribe on these days? They know better, is actually
almost impossible to get your hands on morphine, for example,
after digging into Julie's closet, which was packed full of brand new clothing and other items
guns and ammo were uncovered
but the actual murder weapon, a thirty eight caliber was nowhere to be found
The clothing was removed and literally stack to the ceiling to allow entry in the closet. A cleaning, kit,
and ammunition for a thirty. Eight caliber appeared this
a clear sign that the gun existed and was missing, Julie,
was missing too
driving around desperately searching for someone to take her kids, so she could visit the one person who would help clean up this mess, as she shows up at her
Mr Amy's house and she's,
as do our sister Amy, hey we're here for the play day. The kids want to see their aunt and shit
off the kids with Amy, who really didn't wanna watch that she doesn't have kids and didn't really want to watch the kids, but
she agreed to do so and
the defendant now without our children just leave
she ends up our fathers office,
her father is
to do licensed real estate broker within
office in the normal heights area, which is near downtown of Santiago, his daughter came into the office and
as to him
I shot. Jason in self defence
That's all she said: Julia had run to daddy
there's a reason, Julie, harboured and reach out to her mother and instead chose her father to save the day. She knows that it
daddy, who always bills her out and get her out of trouble
is not going to call the police, but instead is going to help her to get away the best,
they can with
but she did. She would spend
next eight hours at her father's house and according to her father, the only thing spoken was, I
Jason in self defence,
hardly believable what did
been included, calling a very high profile, defence attorney and meeting with him. Before going back to pick up her kids from her sisters home, they then
the kids and went to her dad's house again. This is Julie's, dad
and you didn't open the door. What happened, then,
left. We ve been instructed by MR things to lead him handle the situation
according to attorney sinks, Julie,
to turn yourself in that day
Julie gave her own advice to the attorney and her dad look for
blue Backpack. This was,
a bug out back Julie had carefully put together just after shooting her husband in the back in
what she calls self defence
just before witnesses of the coffee shop, saw her with her children. Looking calm and collected
I recall was in the backpack was currency.
Jewelry
cars
Some travellers,
eggs and a gun out a guy passports
his passport. The currency in the bag mentioned by her father was nearly forty thousand dollars out of work.
Julie, directed the attorney to remove his fees. There was
so another form of currency in the bag get this
over spoons on August eighth,
after basically hiding for a day and a half ago.
I came for Julie.
Dad's house
and there was nothing that even daddy could do about it.
Julian Jason, Harbor of Carlsbad California, had three small children
in an upper middle class neighbourhood on the beautiful sunny coast,
Jason was dead
and Julie was in jail
when were placed in temporary custody through children services.
and Julie had brought forth a secret she'd been hiding
The reason she actually shot her husband, the seek
was that she had been abused and raped by her
It's been Jason for years
or silver defence team would present
but she had any.
bigger secret. A love of my life here Julie is describing her ex boyfriend. Jeremy
he called from jail and sent a postcard to seventeen days after murdering her husband in it
She referred to Jeremy as the love of her life and also admitted that she had been in touch with him during the marriage, a marriage in which she claims she was repeatedly raved. In fact, she kept her diary of the rapes
but when the diary appeared in court
It never mentioned the word rape. Instead,
the detailed days and times that she and Jason had sex Saturday March that I am back then talk discussion for five hours in the evening
marital topics Jus explained. The word sex was code for rape.
its understood that many women do not report being raped for various personal reasons, but
I'm scratching my head because she was raped, but did not
its closeness this to anyone deny.
Documented in her diary in a way that anyone would understand did not reply
it's a police, but instead pet along.
discussion following morning sex as she referred to it in her diary lesson?
in writing down when it was regular,
sex Miss Harbour, although she does very bizarre things. She
a person whose
documents a lot of things in her life and she,
It's these letters that are essentially journals in which she documents her every fought thing. She eats
what's happening in her life. What,
families doing documents
things about the marriage. Just every my new show in detail of their life. She would write it down in these journals, or letters
after she was arrested and placed into jail
seventeen days.
For the murder. She wrote a letter
wrong Torres up from the jail
and seventeen days later, you're going to be able to
the latter, in which
she shows no remorse at all or no care for her husband
who is killed on August seven and for
She is in custody.
you will see that
the end of the letter she signs it tee, o o l Julie, which stands for the love of
my life. Not only was she sending him friendly letters or maybe even love letters
She was also sending him her journals with details of her life,
If she was being physically abused or raped. Why would she not,
this close to the love of her life.
Even though she was contacting this love of her life Jeremy,
and had shot her husband because he was about to rape her
There was one more weird item, then her get
bag. Naked pictures of Jason.
This is gonna, get graphic here. Folks, so put the kiddies away.
not that they should be here anyway, honestly, the
show Jason lying prone on the bad alone. Looking at the ceiling,
his hands at his sides obvious
they just before or after sex.
backpack also containing passports and birth certificates.
Of Jason Cell phones and wallet a gun.
That was not the murder weapon, family, heirloom, silver spoons,
forty thousand dollars and nay,
He had photos of Jason, were
we discovered by Julie's father on his premises.
That's embarrassing,
after meeting with the defence attorney
bag went missing for a period of time,
only to resurface during a second police search at the Harper residents, where it was discovered
the garage attic for some reason in court,
It was revealed that the defence attorney had suggested they put it in a safe place to preserve it attorney thing
had also removed the forty thousand dollars for his attorney fee and another attorney.
And gave some money to Julie's dad ass for the guy.
that killed, Jason and according to Miss Harbour,
You went to MR thinks, his office with a gun in her car.
has the murder weapon, which
She removed it from the crime scene.
it is already incriminating enough.
Places in a car, and she drives it to the parking lot across from her lawyers office. That's according to her own
Similarly, she has the gun and she says she didn't take. The gun incited stayed in the car, but whatever
the cases she has the gun in your car. At that point
this sounds like she,
trying to cover up her actions, and we know she met with her attorney from four
sixteen to six, forty five, because the self
tower records. Show them at the downtown office of MR things on a street. That's a long time.
According to her, the gun is still in the car and what how
immediately after she leaves Mr Fixes office after six. Forty five p m
She immediately goes and destroy.
Is of the murder weapon
two testimony she was told by MR thanks to preserve the gun, just like the backpack for evidence, of course,
to this day. The gun has never been found
Julie claim to have buried it and then
at the location. Do.
Location, however, was jail. Even then, daddy,
prepared to bail her out
about Julie's mother. You might ask
This dynamic between the parent is pretty obvious. You heard
testimony of John C hack
he was willing to bail,
Daughter out, put up money,
and collateral to bail out of two million dollars when she was in jail for four hundred something days, but it was the mother's side. The mother's side that wasn't willing to release these funds.
The mother is notably absent from this courtroom.
And from this story, because Miss Harbour did not want her. Mothers help that morning
because her mother would have done what all of us would have done, which is go to the police. I guy went upstairs and had a big fat. You went Pappas House and Israel and Julie told us that he lists that when he fell office
He got dad, I think, by the time of Julie's trial, it was twenty fourteen and Jason had been gone for two years: the children
were now referring to their own mother by four
name. Julie
rather than mom or mommy, or anything that resembled anything like that, and it was clear how they felt like
cause she called my father despite the heartbreak
testimony of Jason's children, his parents,
and his brother Julie,
he was acquitted,
first degree, murder and I was a hung
worry for the remaining charges. Women always
get off easy talk about privilege by the way,
would be retried first, second degree, murder and the means
I'm her doting dad bailed, her out of jail, and she would be
free until her
second trial- would take place in twenty fifteen
Even though Julie was free, her kids wanted nothing to do with her
some are being raised by Jason's parents.
In the absence of her husband, Jason and now devoid of her children.
Julie had yet another surprise for everyone. Carlsbad woman, charged with killing
her teach her husband is celebrating a legal victory. As we first told you at midday, Julie, Harpers Retrial is being postponed because she's pregnant, the bigger secret was the fraternity
Of this baby, rumour circulated that she had used Jason sperm through in
He drove fertilisation and prosecutor
hope so because
This could work against her in the retrial.
It was also very possible Julie, reunited with her ex boyfriend. Jeremy
No one knows but Julie.
we asked the girl we spoke to earlier what he thought.
Julie's new baby, to be welcome a person, as this directive already got. Two kids that are going to be raised,
without parents and now you're bringing in another child.
This world, who have far from a normal life,
then we're really surprised and disappointed to hear that she was pregnant
and I dont know how she didn't. However, she did at the retrial was delayed because of Julie's high risk pregnancy and many had their suspicions that this was an intentional stall tactic, or maybe it was a tactic to garner sympathy, regardless Julie finally had to face the jury and the judge for what she did. It was difficult to find jurors who had not heard of this case.
They were out there. We we're ask three four questions. Eads primarily, as do you think you can tell when p
are lying. Are you able to tell the difference?
The answer I says: well, I think so I don't know anybody in this rumour
think I can tell when people are lying and they asked. Do you remember anything about the first trial and I said you know I did not. I might have been working at the time this you're may have been working at his job during the first trial, but now it was time to take his job as a adjure seriously. I just looked at her and
I assume that sea was innocent until I start hearing thee.
Information from both sides
I really wanted her to have a fair trial, since this was a murder case. I know what the consequences were: probably life in prison because there was a gun, a gun charge added to it. So I and all the people I served with our very serious about getting this right during a retrial. The defense argued that Julie had been abused, was about to be raped the morning of the murder and was just defending herself according to Julie, the gun accidentally fired.
As she says, Jason move towards her. However, the prosecution brought in the gun expert, who made it very clear just how difficult it would have been for this to have been an accident. They even let jurors, hold and test the same type of gun to see for themselves at the sound of the trigger quaking as Julie Harbour watched, while each juror got a chance to hold and pull the trigger, oven, unloaded double barrel. Daringly, like the one you ll see in this picture, that's the same kind of gun, police, say Julie, Arbour used when she shot
husband. It was concluded that it would take eleven pounds of forced to pull the trigger and too much for it to have been an accident, since the previous jury was not afforded the opportunity to pull the trigger themselves, there may have been the turning point for the second set of jurors the
The commission also presented the staggering number of pills Julie was taking every day this amounted to four thousand twenty five narcotic pills in three hundred thirty five days to break this doubt even further. She was self medicating with ten narcotic opiates and
we too sleeping pills every single day.
It's no wonder the kids of Julian Jason testify that their mother was sleeping most of the time and barely interacted with them did the oldest child Jake, for example. Remember that by the time his sister was born, she was dirty most of the time and sometimes what without clean clothes, or that the baby was showing disturbing sides of gross motor delays from being confined newest crab. Until his dad could arrive home from his teaching job one,
was clear. During the summer
trial. They had no love for their mom tyrant, usury blessing
You're on your own. You, yes, yes, because I don't want to say that she is my mother. That's exactly what the second jury decided. Julie Harbour killed her husband, Jason and it wasn't self defense. She was given fifteen to life for secondary murder and an extra twenty five years for a gun enhancement charge
Victim impact statements were being given by Jason's grief, stricken family at the sentencing, Julie, visibly smart and grimaced Jason was devoted sun and we are proud of the man he had become. He was ass, a gull dedicated to his teaching for the success of his students. He was easy, going extremely patient and very responsible. We saw him on a frequent basis. We knew as we age we could count on him to help us. We no longer have Jason's help. Jason was a fantastic hands on father every day. I miss him as I watch is children Jake
London Josh, grow, develop and succeeded school and their extracurricular activities. The ripples of this horrible experience extended so many directions. These children need to be safe from
her own mother. She needs to be imprisoned until they are all adults so that they feel safe so that they can put this behind them, and so they can move on in their lives.
in the most positive way as possible.
These are wonderful and precious children. They need, just as in our interview with Jason's mother. She added these tearful remarks, even though it has been almost nine years since Jason was murdered. We miss him so much pain keeps resurfacing, is so unfair that he can be with his children as they grow an accomplished. Their goals,
barely shutting it's here at the loss of her husband. Much
of teacher coach, father, brother, sun and friend,
she sobbed and shock for forty.
Its while discussing herself,
in a rambling stream of consciousness, monologue
and
I never even. How does social media account or anything like that? I'm not guilty of the charge
who,
Oh that's, nice
a girl in school.
geometry,
oh you always worked very hard work,
use incited by some moves.
They want to
able to have a good career.
Graduate school myself out of order future family
by now. You get the gist of her message. She
worked very hard and it wasn't her fault, but she had much more to say
believe me, american dream,
I never imagined when George
my whole life, let alone murder
and let's not forget its true, that she was firmly abused. Here's a link,
or verbal abuse for Julie, fuck, you doing you
some shit slob
you ok,
use
only be button
words and phrases
started into a long diatribe about how unfair the system is with regards to the placement of children, the judge,
was rightfully annoyed
so he interrupted her.
Mr Harbour, in interrupt for just a moment. This is your after you express your views about sentencing in your feelings towards that
and I wanted to be every opportunity. Beaver
appears at your inventing about job
Services must not is not the appropriate forum for you in advance about your children,
in the decision process and bring it back to the case
yes! Well, I bring it back to the case because you are inventing about about the process.
Continuing the rest strive for now, but you ve got the just a boy.
bring it back to me,
so she did so
when I hear
is
shoes were behind
Now we
There were many children
in hindsight it would have been so much better for me or how it would have lived
I urge to you
do one called nine hundred and eleven right away, but
Maybe you need
in the world.
however hard it is for me to go one.
laws, maybe more
Then I will
and just like that. The court room rolled out the red carpet
and the award goes to Julie Harper.
My first jury
routine, the true
Maybe maybe
they stereo
in room
looking at the laws
time, Ranger instruction,
don't listen to
An eye is Ryan.
the way. My has these really me. At least
It was some glimpse of what my life was re. Why?
jewish defence team attempted to lessen the sentence, but it was too late
The judge had already made up his mind, gathers claim
She had been repeatedly views and rape,
the marriage and the court has the independently way and consider all the evidence it was received at the trial and determine whether its efficient
supporting a verdict of second degree murder, not exactly what this court is done. I know that the only added as it was presented, to establish or support the Eba passion argument is the testimony of the defendant, the courthouse
to consider all the credible evidence. The turn of the credible evidence supports the verdict.
I want to emphasise the word credible, because the defendant story that she told from this witness stand.
The most important element when it comes to
Warren anchoring testimony nasty element of credibility in the core
listen carefully to the defendants, testimony and finds that the testimony of the defendant
is inherently untrustworthy in not worthy of belief.
In America. The justice system does
usually work
depend on a jury of our peers, two way all the evidence and consider reasonable doubt in the minds of this jury. There was no doubt everybody's got to get a fair trial, regardless of
how evil the person looks or acts already been accused of
you really have to sit in judgment with an open, open mind and gather all the facts and discuss it with the people you're on the jury with,
and try to leave out any personal opinions about the person, just make the decision on the facts and give the person a fair trial, regardless of how you think about
if she ever Julie ever here's. This too should be arranged reassured that I think the twelve of us were very.
fair. We listened to her attorney and prosecuting prosecutor.
And we read their room for three days talking about it for two and a half days and we found a guilty without it
was Julie. Harpers spoiled seems like it seems, like those literal silver spoons she carried around with her really
had a picture of whom she was daddy, handed her a lot of privilege and ultimately bailed her out of jail for two million dollars. So it's you
like. She grew up with this feeling that
You could get away with anything and deserved everything and nothing was reformed
Let me ask you something: if you were in jail, would your parents hand over two million dollars to get you out? I would even be able to
Julie may have reached sociopath status in it. She refused to see that she had done anything wrong that she was
We have said that it would have looked better if he had called nine one one right away. Did you catch that, in the testimony Julie had everything and even
when she had made a mess of her life. She still had everything and then some but till she crossed the line and to do one thing that could not be replaced
not even by her daddy
as human life. I doubt she gets to use those pretty little silver spoons in prison.
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