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In twenty twenty one, everything we want seems to be at our fingertips, quite literally no matter what it is. It's just a few clicks away has become even more pronounced over the last year, where you can get just about anything deliver. sushi groceries, you can even. Courier, to send of package for you from one place to another, using nothing more than your mobile phone were used to using are smartphones together. Just about anything, we want at any time the fact that generation that's growing up now, don't even have a concept of having to wait for sex, but that's not reality. Is it well he's not entirely? There are still some things in life that take a tremendous amount of effort for cold hard cash, and if money is something we have, it all comes down to effort and persistence,

but even then has the rolling stones once said you can't always get what you want, Andrea Currie, wanted what a lot of women want. Actually, a marriage, a home, a baby specific part about a baby born and raised in Pittsburgh a k, a steel city. Things were not always easy for Andrea, her mom and our two sisters Although Pittsburgh has been ranked one of the countries most livable cities, business the case for everyone. What's the steel mill shut down in the seventies, it took some families generations to recover, and although the city itself is beautiful with a lot of history,

some outlying suburbs are still what you would call impoverished. Take work and spoke for People were Andrea, her sister and her mother all lived and where the median household income was around twenty six thousand dollars according to the two thousand senses. that's well below the poverty line for almost twenty percent of the population. Then twenty turn. These statistics were even more dire, a whopping twenty two percent of households were below the poverty line, here's a residence point of view. Some move here on May thirteen, my brother's birthday, nineteen sixty three this was a community where you wanted to raise a chow got down here. All emerges, reeled above everything was going, the police lived in workers, so we have to respect the amount they respect that you see, worker

That is why, like that, when I wasn t it was due to fat down here, the elderly, the older generation in our parents start die We have the osprey coming up the inquiry led towards We did. I lit idea because gives it grown and gum I'm sick jury. Let the concerning the increase, our having cares and I started to change them, we'll start moving away and workers were start. thanks to which we see. Today. There was now two thousand seven and conditions and working spurred hadn't improve much Andrea was born during the death of steel mills in Pittsburgh and the decline continued. Andreas mom was a nurses aid at a local hospital. a relatively low paying job and her father was uninvolved in Andrea's life from the start has it

old, Andrea in one of her sisters, lived in an apartment building across the hall from each other, and her mother lived within walking distance still Andrea and her family were happy and spend a lot of time together. Andrea held several low skilled jobs in pretty much lived, the Pittsburgh or the Berger Life Steelers Games, Pirates Games, family bar guess I'm just visit each other during sunny Burg days, which, occur all that often by the way, through the years Andrea, had a few chances at children when she became pregnant, but sadly she miscarried She knew time was running out and the window opportunity was quickly closing. She was in her late thirties when she finally met arrayed Demas maybe living gather, marrying and trying harder would produce the child that she desperately want it. She was right it

happened again, almost man. quickly. At this late stage, she was given another Yes that many women we'll never get. Mom recalled receiving the amazing news. I know I was off work that day I was in the Living room Dandridge, He came in her and re plus. maybe had some friends in the house to, I think some friends or family. We was just sitting there. So Andrea, she gets his phone call, the phone CALL Andrea, told the doktor. Well you tell this to my mom, so the doktor told me I told everybody be quiet, because I want to hear what the doktor had to say. So the doktor told me cell Andrea, do not take them. those that she gave her that she had just took a year and test and she was pregnant. That's when everybody starter

during the excitement in the room, was palpable as Andrea. Her mom and her sisters began excitedly discussing the due date, which would June of two thousand aid, and they would, old, a fantastic baby shower the new mom trappings and decorations Andrea revealed, the sonogram to all over family. After the next doctors appointment and her mother, proudly hung sonogram on the refrigerator. There was a boy and they all decided, they would name him re Sean time passed quickly for Andrea who grew bigger. And bigger by the weak, then the month and then at the end of spring two thousand eight. It was time for baby regime to meet the family, I recall the day: Andrea was to give birth I'll, never forget it, I don't want to be with the Andrea why Andrea had to be induced. So when I called the phone rang, the doctors office key

God and said Andrea firm, her not to come, because the baby was in the babies. that wasn't right. The thing that wasn't right was Andrea's blood sugar levels. Andrea mother was the contact person in case Andrea, couldn't be reached when the This call to delay the induction, Andrea, was already on the phone. So her mother received the message and related not only to her sisters. Two Andrea herself, coincidentally Andrea Sister, her mother also worked in the medical field as a skilled assistant for a pediatrician, she remembered her own attempts at getting the day off to be for her sisters induced labour, which was occur on July, eleventh when, was delayed. She resumed her normal work. Schedule but on the evening of July, fifteenth she visited Andrea in her apartment after Andrea, had called and announced that she was having contractions

Soon, her mother joined her Andrea than a family friend, and they time the contractions until Andrea finally asked her mother to leave, because you don't want anyone smoking around her and also tired social. everyone else to depart as well Even though Andrea's mother and sister were concerned about Andrea, going into labor, She assured them that she was fine and would call if she needed anything. The next her mom got the call the baby had arrived. he was a beautiful, well developed boy. His a cord was already tied off, compliments of Andrea Sister Brook who was now dawned with bloodstains. Because the baby was born in the apartment. Andrea's nightgown was covered with blood from the waist down. Her sister old man, one one the baby and Andrea were both placed on a stretcher and whisked away to the hospital.

but when they arrived in Dreyer referred to be examined? Her blue, We refuse or quickly arouse suspicion, by, which he refuse? Where was the placenta Family had not found at the apartment why didn't Andrea show any physical sides of fatigue dress and finally, why did DNA from Andrea's and the baby's blood tests not match up whose baby What's this, July. Seventy two thousand eight proximately six, Forty p m tat. The grandeur of the wheel can spark police department taking a tape recorder statement on Dreyer Demas curry. At his birthday station you provide data Davis cadres its July seven, eighty two thousand eight it's about exporting pm.

From the hospital baby. started from start from beginning his carriage and Tina but added to all won t than usual, down the street were always seating bundle, joy, raftered scourge, their situation, If you are unable to hear the soft spoken Andrea, she was telling workin, spurred police that the baby was tennis. Tina was a young woman who Andrea, frequently saw walking the streets with her bundle of joy, had confided that you wasn't sure if she would be able to take care of the baby and was very interesting to Andrea, who had been waiting all her life to do just that care. a baby that is in fact it was an obsession for Andrea,

Tina was lucky Thou, she had friendly maternal Andrea, not only to take the baby, but also to pay. Cortina until it was born a wall Take the baby To sum up, I think debate ten thousand dollars at eighteen. You go get it I'll bet Erika my finger at barrows them at the sun, so much more than just because that baby, they can only do that by people Andrea, went on to explain that the baby was born on July. Sixteenth. the transaction took place for the exchange of the baby, which was two Andrea's apartment located across the hall from her sister. This is illegal by the way which is why Andrea was being interrogated alone, For me, what I want

yeah baby and I am able to doing so. Sister level were no one will want to do. let's go baby. So I will do so for babies, Oh, I went in the south, the baby, small and you are welcome to stay with mom from blood borne, the day. Fortunately, Ray. I was just astute enough to realise the baby should be examined, or maybe Her sister realized the baby rapid, how you so near the Bay Town Debate, I gave it gave her a cable kiss, near now. What was all show? Your sister call, my one: what's your sisters? Name, ok,

broke help you with anything else, can help you with anything else about the. When the baby opportunity now? Ok, What did you do to the baby? Other people a lot to do when the baby off at all the baby the baby during the several days that Andrea was held for questioning was providing as much information as she could about this Tina character. She didn't seem worried because in her mind what was the harm This was a win win situation for both her antenna. She was held. This poor girl from the kindness of her heart and she was receiving a price gift but meanwhile something was rotten in the state.

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A courier Demas of Wilkins Burg Pennsylvania had an extreme desire to have a baby, and now, at the age of thirty, eight was facing the ticking clock that was quickly stealing her chances. Finally married and pregnant at last. She sadly miscarried in June of two thousand eight but you didn't tell her family. That she didn't want to disappoint her mother, so she showed up at the hospital with a baby. Anyway, staff quickly learn that this baby was not Andrea's and police, soon discovered that it belonged to a woman wandering the streets of Wilkins, Burke, according to an Dreyer. She had helped the young woman by paying her money providing clothing and by passing on adoption agency when when and what was this foul odor neighbouring tenants complained about that's the familiar sent us the ghetto? oh and remember, Andrea's, husband Ray

she married him with the hopes of spawning children well ray was now in prison for keeping them at. This same time than Andrea, had miscarried and was trying to purchase, a replacement baby Mr Demas was being charged with two counts: each of raping an Ex girlfriend child involuntary deviate sexual intercourse with a child, statutory sexual assault and indecent assault of a person younger than thirteen I'm not sure about you, but those all sound like the same charge with different titles. In any case, it's a good thing. He was in jail now because he would have made an awful dad. I mean these really the traits you're. Looking for your baby, daddy, It was during a dutiful visit to her husband re this upstanding citizen that Andrea met key.

Johnson at the Allegheny County jail on July of two thousand eight. Only eighteen He still had a bright future ahead, a godly person. She was killed. selfless and bright She volunteered as a candy striper in a nearby hospital and fed the homeless part time and the dolls planned to enlist in the air force. It happened to be visiting your boyfriend in jail at the same time. Andrea was there and Cuba would also become the target of Andrea's interest because she was very pregnant, it's like her altruistic efforts towards Tina Andrea plan to offer friendship, clothing for the baby and much more Little did key and no Andrea had a history of obsession and law. eyes. We sought the appeal and review of doktor barbarism a renowned forensic psychiatrist was

studied Andrea, curry, Demas in depth. She's out out of the box. She is, she doesn't fit in to any, diagnostic category. Her actions don't make any sense You can't go back and look at her history and even with the advantage that I had of having every medical record and having her whole life really well documented from She was incarcerated the first time in the nine days, Europe. Baby obsessed, altruistic, Andrea was in jail in the nineties you heard that right in May of nineteen. Ninety nine stabbed a woman in a plot to steal her baby. when this was unsuccessful. She kidnapped and info recovering from illness in the hospital. Just one day later, The baby was safely returned, but Andrea spent eight years and state prison. When

as pension for helping people from kindness of her heart that a bizarre tail in and of itself and our obsession with babies rested on her own reconstructed version of her life, and how do you explain the fact that she continues to lie, even though her lies are so transparent. There's no explanation: how do you explain the fact that so much of what she does lacks reason it's impossible to explain? Why does she steel and give step away, but it's not like she's deals and step away and says their stolen I was not a Robin Hood kind of thing is just a random kind of thing. You know how do you explain all of her her obsessive ness about pregnancy and children? Is you know

You can't point anything in her background that would explain it, but a little deeper into Andreas passed from of twelve she'd been claiming she had been raped and had Malta. pregnancies and miscarriages almost all of these were lies. Her mother recall one time that this man, True, Andrea was only fifteen years old when her pregnancy was discovered by her mother She called Andrea who lived upstairs at the time and remembers that Andrea jumped from the window ex thing she knew she was being called to the hospital because Andrea carried this. I've been true but none of the other stories were verified in any way there. no baby to husband, re Demas there, no miss carriage in June, two thousand eight, instead

what there were worth phantom baby cries, false pregnancies and miscarriages and, of course, attempts the steel other women's babies. In compound sensible that she would be putting on this elaborate fantasy of being pregnant in this public setting and in talking about her son agree I'm talking about a big fancy wedding that she had, which didn't have and all of this other stuff and in terms of going in and meeting this woman in the jail that was happened, stance, and I dont know what clicked in her when she met that woman, I do know that she picked somebody close to the time that she would have been due and who was near term as she would have been.

She really been pregnant as far as the pregnancy belly either she was eating a whole lot more than usual, but it chick nags, maybe or Her mind had tricked her body in a thinking she was actually pregnant a phenomenon with a myriad of names should also uses delays, nor pregnancy. Fate pregnancy and DA gestation among many yes, this An actual real medical phenomenon, it's kind of nuts, but the Mai has a whole lot of say in what the body is doing. Another possibility is that she wore the kind of fake pregnancy belly that you can buy. It ceja costume shop in In any case, family and friends all said Andrea looked pregnant, but she was locked into. Let others touch. her swollen abdomen. What about them call from the doctors office? the one confirming Andrea was pregnant,

The reality is injurious pregnancy test was initially positive, but was advised by a doctor that follow a blood test should be done it was, and the doktor maintained that she was not in fact pregnant at all. How does this happen. Here is Doctor Rebecca bright man. This is slightly due to natural lost during the first few weeks of pregnancy, known as early pregnancy loss. Sadly, this can be quite common, with pregnancy loss occurring in approximately one and four pregnancies. it can be very upsetting to get a negative result after first testing positive and can lead some people to doubt. The accuracy of the pregnancy risk initially received. This is where the term false positive usually comes from. However, you can be reassured that truth was positive. Results are extremely rare if you get a positive result at any point,

then it is almost certain that you were pregnant when you took the task returned to the happenstance meeting between beautiful key inner, blossoming pregnancy. That was real, Andrea was on the prowl after a fraudulent eight months of convincing every one in her circle that she was going to deliver her own bundle of joy very soon. When alone, surprise that she would meet care and within just a couple of weeks she had in Kiev friendship, so watch so that she offered key a ride back to her Wilkins Burg Apartment the one on a street She would hand over some clothing and gifts for the new baby and bout, the Wilkins Bird Nomad named Tina, whose baby she'd purchased well You haven't guessed it by another was no Tina. That was a lie. A figment of Andrea's imagination. The baby was key is accordingly

the criminal complained filed against thirty eight year old, Andrea curried Demas eighteen year, Old Clia Johnson was bound with doktor plastic placed over her head wrapped in a comfort or than a garbage bag and shoved into a space beneath the headboard and curry de MRS Master bedroom. The medical examiner says Johnson Stomach was cut open and her baby stolen that so far they have not said whether she was dead before her son was taken or why in horror. Here was given a drug called neurons in otherwise known as gab repentant, which is typically prescribed for nor apathy and erasure condition. that cause numbness and tingling we often in the extremities. That's all prescribed for migraine, headaches and sometimes for other types of pain. what it is not prescribed for to produce anesthesia a state of semi consciousness use for surgery. Doctor whacked of Pittsburgh weight in with his

Anyone on key is pain level as a baby was being torn her womb, If she were alive and conscious, the pain would have been fantastic as well as, of course, the realisation that someone was doing. is to her and taking her baby. So, You would have thought he would have been talking about three four people holding her down Of course there three or four people holding her down there was only one crazed and obsessed Andrea. kindly allowing key to bypass the hospital bills she would incur with. well delivery. system, Andrea, who applauded out This grand theft baby because She so desperately craved her own family and could think of nothing else, but babies, although Andrea had spent time in prison already and

diagnoses of psychosis and delusional disorder. Among other things, to preserve elaborated that her crime was nevertheless shocking and but predicted by her doctors and this was a case, she would never forget- redeem this. I mean, there's a reason that you're doing a podcast on her and the reason that I became involved with her. This is very unusual crime, I remember this case ITALY pops into my head, I think about it. I thought this for a decade- and I can't read my head around it- what's this sleep baffling is that Andrea's IQ was quite low measuring in the borderline range mean Her iq falls below ninety eight percent of the population at her age How could she have pulled? This off it doesn't make sense. You know

you can look at her. I q and say that she had the I q. It doesn't matter what her I q is because clearly she hadn't, I q that was capable of doing this because she did it. Part of the reason. Andrea's case is so unusual points back to her. a virtual lying she's, also a completely. Unreliable historian So there are lots of reasons. People can be unreliable historians. It can be unreliable historians because their psychotic They don't know the difference between truth me when fantasy for life another two years, hope you weren't. They don't know what the truth is. People can be or historians because they got cognitive impairments. People can be poor, historic because they're lying to get out of something people can be poor historians because they have civil Oji, a fantastic her, which is a thing

see name for saying, pathological, liar Andrea redeem. This lied about everything and really for no purpose her. trees, so inconsistent, and I documented in the rope port that I wrote for her trial the fact that really you can believe anything. Comes out of her mouth, she gives fleetly unreliable histories about it, we think about who raised her about things that are incidental and unimportant too. You know her life so she does not fit easily into any psychiatric category. She's got a constellation of symptom, that don't fit any one diagnosis, got a low. I accuse pathologic liar she's, a pathological. You know thief: the usual secondary gain. Other thief. She's got obsession

and delusions about children if you ve ever done with therapist session. For any reason, you understand importance of telling the truth. It's tough, talk about issues emotionally draining at times. In fact,. Craig Demas seem to lack that capability altogether, making it the call for any of her medical team to terms not only her personal history but also exactly how disturbed and delusional she actually was, then she said TAT. Her father was married to her mother until she the team right. So there you write every from I never knew him too. I look with him until I was a team sometimes said she was raised by our mother. Sometimes she said, but she was raised by her grandmother. Sometimes she said tat. She had no family psychiatric history. Sometimes she said that her mother was skids affronted

Sometimes she said that she had no psychiatric history before she was arrested, Ninety ninety, the time she said that she was raped when she was twelve and the heads. Gatwick symptoms then and by the way that the only time she ever said she was raped in one in all of her many many many evaluations, she only reported that she was raped on one may Remember how Andrea's mom said she got a call from one of Andrea's friends, saying fifteen year old, Andrea was pregnant and Andrea jumped out. The window based doctors. If extensive review of Andrea's files, it is questionable whether Andrea's own mother knows the truth. pregnancies were without any basis reality. She said that she had between one and many pregnancies. She read reported over the course of years variously that she headed,

deal birth, that she had a child that live for a day that she had miscarriages into a toilet that she had miscarriages in a hospital. The children child died from said that she had living children that she had a two will pregnancy, that she had an abortion? that she gave birth in two thousand and three and the baby died after ten days. None of that recommended men who medical record so no one knows if she's ever been pregnant after showing up the hospital with key is baby Andrea was arrested with officers believing she may have. purchased him and not suspecting a murderer until several days later, but she was not done telling lies described as disturbing my Alleghany County Police, Andrea Currie, Demas, sat motionless inside the courtroom. As detective Tom De Felice told the judge how she confessed that key Johnson was dragged before our baby was cut from her womb. In

I'd call D, Missus, Wilkins Burg, apartment detective de Felice testified that curry Demas took no blame, claiming that this male friend involved in a heated argument outside the court room was the one who removed the baby, but the detective testified. Curry Demas quickly began making excuses for potential evidence. Saying that her dna could on Saran rap found around Johnson's face because she had the rabbi to her friend and that her finger prints could be found on the duct tape used because she was asked to cut strips of that tape. The man curried Demas claimed cut the baby from key Johnson denies any involvement. She gave a prettier story. She said that this guy came to a parliament with a plastic bags, kit pills and that the guy I gave the pregnant girl two or three pills that they laughed and the pregnant broken

back slept on her couch the following morning to people came separately. to her apartment with rubber gloves and the guy man the pregnant woman, more pills to induce labour and then they said that miscarried It has said that the two people a man and a woman said the living room, watch, television you said that the man left the bathroom obtained a towel wit, washcloth alcohol, duct tape and ran rap and They went into the bathroom and exited with a baby. he said the baby and the man were covered in blood and she went Her sisters apartment woke up her sister

who read the baby in a blanket tied, a string round, the umbilical cord attempted to clean the baby's mouth and nose called nine one. So that's what she took place, pathological liar kleptomaniac, delusional, psychotic, intellectually dim and, most importantly, obsessive. These are describe Andrea curried Demas. But what was your state of mind, but she played the role amateur surgeon, cutting any Hope Keogh, whatever have of the family. She expected. Was this evil act premeditated or was it the uncontrolled compulsion? A lunatic

she live like a normal life like you and I got up at a morning. Eight bought things went to work in this light. We do it A person is saying that we all say that was

victims uncle speaking about his nieces killer. So, let's returned the focus to pregnant victim key I'm the one who's dead and whose last moments were as a witness of her own life being viciously ripped away twice over her life and the life of her baby Keogh was partly eviscerated. Her abdomen was cut open with a common kitchen knife. The uterus had also been sliced open. Oh and remember the missing placenta, it was found on the scene by detectives. It had been a normal day, four key Johnson, who had only recently moved from her fathers residents to her own apartment. Her father remembered that as a Christian, she had reaffirms her spirituality and the church a mere week before her death, the weather was a typical cloudy day in Pittsburgh. On July. Fifteenth two thousand eight, the last day of key, is life. Camera footage caught key at the jail where she visited the father of her unborn child. She was wearing a white, hoodie and red struck top along with genes. This was the final day she would meet up with her angel of death, Andrea Curry, Demas. She would have been alive when the baby was torn from her, so

to preserve the baby's oxygen key is life was drained from her ass she blood out, but she was still alive when her body was being wrapped in bedding and surrounded in plastic bags and saran rap after Andrea had what she wanted. She wrapped key his head and a mask that would suffocate her. Then she stopped her cocoon, like corpse behind the headboard of the bed in the apartment, detectors, found three blood covered knives, a roll of plastic kitchen rap, and a roll of duct tape also covered in blood bloody pillows. Embedding marked were key, had been accosted. sort of scale. Listeners are tuned into the nuances of the insanity defence.

It may also be familiar with how different It really is to be labelled insane This case was no different. Return Andreas trial took place without a jury at request defensive. Christopher patter rainy set out to convince the Allegheny County judge that Andrea was insane and therefore not guilty. He claimed then she was preoccupied with delusions of being pregnant and had a break with reality. He also argued that getting a baby was consistent with her severe psychosis, honest this day of her murder, trial, Andrea Curried, AMOS wore a brand new blue soup, but her wide eyed bewildered expression has yet to change. The prosecutor said it's all in act, but in his opening statement today, her defence attorney told the judge at the time a few Johnson's killing Unborn son crudely excised from her room hurriedly,

this was in a severe psychosis off her medication. The prosecutor mark tranquilly a very different ideas about Andrea's mental health in trickery. Demas was a spider. She was like a spider because she set out building a web of of sort of death stream by deceitful strand, he Johnson like like a butterfly caught in the web, never saw it coming. The psychiatrist for the prosecution naturally felt the same way. Although she had a history, until Disease she knew what she was doing and she knew was wrong, even doctors, if the expert forensic psychiatrists you heard earlier was conflicts about Andrea's history of diagnoses as it applied to this particular murder, but Certainly, you know in all these reports In all of these many a meme and tell you how many psychiatric and psychological evaluations she had

I dont know that anybody ever thought tat. She was asleep. Your path or anti social. I said that you had to consider it, but up until she did this obviously after she did it, people gave even then after she did it. People gave her diagnoses of anti social traits. Some people did, but before that nobody gave her. I note it was not even a consideration why The diagnosis of anti social personality disorder important in this case, well ties in closely where the insanity theory. With anti social personalities, understand rules or expectations, but blatantly disregard them, I tend to learn from their actions and often lie and manipulate others. These people are typically cold and callous towards others, making

ideal candidates for committing crimes and murder. For that matter, how doctors it went on to say that she's unsure whether Andrea met the necessary the criteria for this disorder and was nothing in our history. The cage she would act out violently. It's weird how some particular labels in so called sites, are on a spectrum yet other This requires specific criteria for a binding a diagnosis. The problem, this theory in the case of Andrea Curry, Demas, is that she did actually previously act out, remember the ninety ninety stabbing in baby abduction, besides what a mere diagnosis of anti social personality have stopped Andrea from killing key Johnson. I don't think so. is at the core of an anti social personality disorder. Is it lack of empathy, which has to be

seen from somebody who can kill a woman and cut a from her warm? There is no way around that unless you are psychotic, so it is, the definition of an anti social act, which doesn't necessarily mean that it is driven from antisocial personality or sociopath EC personality, which I don't think it was doesn't meet criteria and she certainly didn't evidence it before before she did. This Ok, so you're, probably thinking you ve heard it all before crazy. Not crazy psychosis or anti social personality regard of the formal diagnoses. Andrea had two traits cod. We played into this tragic outcome. What constant, wise and her undying obsession over babies, our challenge to decide. whether the murder was premeditated or of Andrea current deem it seem here

insane. You ve heard the definition of insanity. I believe it was from Albert Einstein who called it doing the same thing over and over again expecting front result. Did this apply to Andrea? the defense attorney actually admitted to the judge during closing arguments that, yes, the evidence shows his client and recurring payments. Amos was involved in some way in this case, but he says she should not be held responsible. The the on, on the other hand, has not only she she responsible. She was manipulative and deceitful away through He, mother, the grandmother of the baby, who survived this ordeal did not refrain from giving our thoughts. Damn d, let me do wish she dared to my daughter.

he's mentally ill. Now, there's nothing wrong with her when she dared to my daughter, she taped her ass, she TED term mouth. She tapes are arms, her feet again, just couldn't take it the fair. of key Johnson, were so bereaved by the evidence presented in court. They had to leave the room when it was. SK dust The defence would try to prove that Andrea Curry. Demas was insane at the time of the murder. To come to a psychotic break. And didn't know what she was doing or what was right, and what was wrong Ass occasion, however, was aiming for first or second degree murder, but mentally ill. They argue that Andrea knew exactly what she was doing, as evidenced in her plotting planning and lying added that key is murder was premeditated.

You may recall that Andrea spent time in jail in the nineties. First stabbing a woman and kidnapping another woman's baby. The mother of that baby testified against Andrea so this time, He would leave. No bodies accept The tiny body of a baby she want to call her role in June. We have twenty ten, the non retrial took place. Andrea was now forty years old Cuba, would have soon celebrated her twenty first birthday, along with their precious baby boy key and named after her She was never given that opportunity guilty of second agree murder. Tonight I just found Andrea curried Demas guilty of coming out a new born from the womb of victim. Here John said Jerry.

Every manning, told, Andrea Currie demons that she had wildly delusional thinking when she sliced a baby from a teenagers will. But then he said to her quote: being crazy doesn't mean you're not criminally responsible, and that we convicted her second degree murderer but mentally ill, Andrea, curried Demas sat motionless ass. She had throughout her trial this time. staring at the judge who told her that our planning and pathetic attempt to cover up her crime prove she knew right from wrong, but He considered her intent deranged before her sentencing. She was examined by psychiatrists from Allegheny County jail and die most with severe depression personnel. disorders and auditory hallucinations, The time she told her doctors that she kept thinking about all her miscarriages and kept here, babies cry you know that

Curious thing about her, though, is that she continues with these fantastical lies, delusions. Even when she's already been caught, after her ninety ninety arrest, she continued to say that had this baby and it had been taken away from her and talked about her lost child and she continued talk about that even when she was incarcerated. You know saying that she was interested in finding a man to Mary who had lost a chance does she had. We had one final question for the defense psychiatrist was she happy with the verdict

After all and rail would be spending or life imprisonment, yes, I think they are come was appropriate. I think that she, I dont, know if she got life without pearl, but I doubt, however, be purled, and I think that all of her records show that she does do better when she's on medication. Second medication and show that while washes incarcerated, so I was never there to suggest that she would be found not guilty. I was never there to suggest that she wasn't culpable for her actions I was there to say that she said a very long psychiatric history and that that contributed

per delusions about pregnancy, about children and about her life contributed to her actions. I mean, I don't think it say, certainly not an excuse- and it's only in her case, a partial explanation, but I think that the outcome, was entirely appropriate if they had been arguing that she was not guilty by reason of insanity. I wouldn't have taken the case. I would have taken the case, but I would have said I can't. I can't take their position. I thought her being found guilty, but mentally ill was the appropriate verdict. Just before Andrea sentencing, He turned around and acknowledged the family, saying I'm sorry the judge harshly responded. This is now a crime where an apology will ever suffice. He said. key as mom had a few. To say later now attention

said that out of fair way, new wishing is get was today Logan around and life. still say if she didn't like the baby to the hospital, whenever found my daughter, a buyer, take Baby to the hospital I was able to find my daughter, so that was at dinner, but I cant find it more right now to forgive us be key and was initially placed and foster care. given that his mother was now deceased, and his father was in jail for burglary and other charges. Great dad's in this story, true role models, really father was father, wants custody of begin. Someday choices are limited, of course, while he's incarcerated. Meanwhile, p S family, caring for him in a great that, even though he is life was stolen from her the baby made it to the house, spittle after this horrific entry into the world, because They occurred. Demas

did seem to have some love and compassion for one thing: other people, babies key as mother We shared her feelings about Andrea me, Anybody could it the things she did she's, not you when she's a monster, she sate see laundry. curry demas dreams? we came to fruition. Was she ever pay and miss carried, maybe she ever raped, perhaps Does she know right from wrong at the time she killed KIA? Probably but will never really know for sure. But this is a fact. Her obsessive thoughts were the driving force behind her violent unforgivable actions she may have been crazy She definitely at a low I q, but those

actors, no more drove her to kill Then they steered her away from murder. She simply wanted something he couldn't have it but she wanted it anyway much so that she did anything she could to get it. You can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes might find you get what you need wise words from a nineteen sixties, rock band, as for Andrea curried Demas. However, This wasn't enough, she said, a baby and cool the baby's mother and now Andrea Logan, what she deserves

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