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is a tragic, tragic event, surrounded by mystery and public deception, welcome his sword and scale episode. Forty nine a show that reveals that the worst monsters a real this week, a brutal murder reveals a bizarre web of lies and fraudulent activity dating back to decades, which dwarfs the initial crime.

There are few cases that capture the public's imagination in this way and have thousands speculating what is actually fact. What is fiction will speak to several close to the case and try to unravel the truth behind this story of murder and fraud, but before we get to that, I want to remind everyone that I'll be in fort worth until I thoroughly if at the whisky and rye bar for details, please visit our Facebook page at Facebook. Dot, com, slash, sword and scale should be a good time, come out and meet other sordid scale, fans that are interested in these cases and sure crime in general, and I believe that, just in from the generation why podcast will be joining us out there. So if your fan of that show also you'll get a chance to meet him to kind of a two for one,

should be a lot of fun and I hope to see you all there June 14th, two thousand and fifteen. Two hundred and thirty, two p dot m. An ominous message is posted on the shared Facebook page of Claudia DD, bland shard and her daughter, Gypsy Blanchard. It reads that bitch is dead, almost immediately concern, friends start replying. What's going on says one? What did your facebook attacked? Never heard you talk like that says. Another a third says, sounds like you're watching a movie, then comment from the original poster. Mostly Caps

in slash that fat, pig and raped her sweet, innocent daughter. Her scream was so loud Ella well from there. The common quickly take on a new urgency. People get hacked, and people posting on pages thing and you just kind of pay whatever you change your password, but when we call the tell them that their facebook had been hacked and they didn't answer the phone that kind of attitude. The common thread goes from confusion to action in mere minutes friends deduce that whoever just posting. These messages is not Claudia, Dd Blanche, shard and notified. Authorities. Meanwhile, one of the comments or says: they're gonna go to the house to check up on them, while others Question was going on at the house. The first person again Their says the family cars there, but no one is answering the door, someone tries to call the Blanche yards, but it goes two voicemail, some one else says: oh, please, dear God, let them be ok.

David and came bland shard, who are not related to deepen Gypsy Blanchard, had run to the home. After seeing the strange and vulgar facebook posts deputies on scene allegedly gave David Quasi permission to enter the home. He did so by car. Mean through a tinted kitchen window that was open, attempting not to touch or disturb anything at the scene. He walked through the home and out the front. Or not noticing anything that would indicate that there is anything wrong. It wasn't until later that evening that police were able to obtain a search warrant and enter the home themselves that they found what David, es we applied for search and executed a search warrant at ten forty, five p m, and that's when we found daddy, Blanchard deceased, a violent nature, and so we consider this a homicide scene. We are still actively looking for Gypsy

we are asking for anyone with information or the whereabouts of heard to advise us We do know that Gypsy has. Several medical issues We have received information and are following up on leads, but as far as location of her at this point we do not have that. At this time we are concerned for her well being at this point we don't know. What condition she is or where she is at reporters asked the sheriff if he knew why the neighbor had not discovered deities body when he entered the, well I do. But at this point I can comment on that. I don't feel it. Is anything suspicious related to the neighbour covenant. Checking we don't. We don't fillers things suspicious about that comment. I do, but I can't comment specifically on that right now. We don't have a possible motive like us. They were looking for more information. One of the big

of course I were really focusing on Now- is finding gipsy and making sure that her well being that she's, in good condition, and and as I said she had does have medical needs. So we want to make sure that she's taking care of police. And neighbours were concerned about gypsy. The sickle and disabled wheelchair bound teenager, kind of a monster, kill her mother and take this we're girl, spies gypsies never say she was always in a wheelchair. Is there any reason to believe that one of the wilderness taken and what sort of state she may have been? The only really dont know at this point there are. We know that they, several wheelchair. So it's hard to tell if there is one I specifically miss and so were were unsure that at point we are looking at all leads and trying to run down everything like us at our focus really right now, as locating gipsy in and

sure that that she's, ok and and where Having spent the previous day reporting that two people were missed. The media wanted to know why police had waited a full day before announcing DD bled shard was deceased. Whether there is a lot of reasons for that. As you said, we received information from the neighbour that everything look, good. However, you know. Well, there's Things are going to that one. Not necessarily letting the media no at that time. Web Dignan I'm we found or because we do have to notify next of kin and, as you know, if you ve done a little research, this family is moved here from another state, while back and so running let down, as has been a little bit difficult for detectives, but we have notified next to says we did that we put the the information I also the medical examiner arrived around eleven forty five, slide to assist her, so

this more early this morning. As you all know, we put out the information about her being deceased. Give me information in regards to believe it was random or if the neighbors should be alerted or worried. You know I don't have any information on that. I'd like to be able to say something specific about. There is no danger or but you know right now. We really need to be vigilant until we get some more information able to lock down some the answers to the court. In that we have with a possible killer on the loose and a missing girl police, the track down exactly where that Facebook message came from yeah. You know with social media. Alot of that can be traced in so web detectives of exploring all avenues working with several different agencies do that of assisted us without information along with certain forms that we have obtained to obtain that have. I had actually seen come through my facebook feed on Monday. Where are they

found the body they weren't release any details other than they had found guilty. Blanchard body in the house and Gypsy disable daughter was missing. This is Megan Pack he's a writer who became interested in this case when it popped up on social media and began reporting on it in real time. I d be totally honest. I started the picture may be very sad and I had this story. I felt like I don't wanna be bad so early in the morning, and so it can coming through, because I actually live in Springfield for eight years refilled Missouri. My alma Mater Missouri State University. So that's where I went to college So because of that, I kept seeing more and more information coming through my facebook from the people who lived in Springfield with it with a local case. Then but he was too they morning, as I thought I had got out of bed. Yet I went to read and being a horror fiction after one of my favorites of reticence, called morbid reality and they could

they report true things a lot of true crime, but it would be photo out maybe disturbing or a new story that would unsettling that kind of stuff. So I thought deadline for it would just be image of the screen. Capital included my article and I believe it was along the lines of a missing woman's mother- is murdered. This is what the killer laptop or facebook page. And right away. I was like, while that intense things moving fast at this point. It just a few minutes after Green County sheriff Jim aren't it. Included as midmorning press conference that he came on the air to announce that Gypsy had been found. Thanks for staying around? We have got some breaking news. While we are actually doing the press conference, we have located the gypsy in another state, She is ok, we do have another person of interest in custody their state. What we are working on getting aggravated-

It was to head that direction. She's not harm they say is vital. As far as the communication me is that she is fine wasted, you're, not ruin anything out. At this point, I any things an option until the detectives can get up an interview, everyone involved and the other state then we'll know after subpoena was issued to Facebook police Tracy. Ip address used to post the disturbing messages to home in the village of Big Bend, Waukesha County, no walk Wisconsin, they arrived at two forty five, a M Monday June fifteen with attacks nickel team, including press of array of assault weapons and a canine We have just learned that nineteen, your own gipsy rose, blonde Sharon has been found safe. She is ok, she has,

found in another state, although the sheriff would not say which state and that also a person of interest is in custody and the detectives were able to find that person I do too information from that disturbing Facebook post? That turned up the families Facebook page, detect, is our right now heading to that state to get in touch with Gypsy rose, and this of interest in the case. Friends and family were relieved. That Gypsy was found safe, but there were some questions then, did to be answer to hear that she was safe. I could not have been happier unless it was my own child that had been found, love her and we will take care of her no matter. The person of interest was twenty. Six year old Nicholas GO to John the Facebook

we had a rigid needed from go to George Home in Wisconsin. Investigation is still ongoing, like that a person of interest is not necessarily the suspect and we'd better sort. Those details out anyone to take care for at the moment, family nearby. There is that I can comment on right now, but, like I said, assumes I have more information on get it out here. I will say it will be much later this afternoon, or maybe this evening by the time we can get the directive where they need to go further and city of one person. Anything is possible at this point. We just have one person of interest that we're going to speak to that good. That could flow in the more regularly anywhere for Thursday up until our discovery. So any time in and between those times will be a would be a time of anybody had information or communication. Now that you found this person of interests you're having more information in regards to how neighbours should feel that they should be worried, a patient. Guessing, that's a great question and it's no. We do not feel that this is a random act at this point, so I do feel comfortable saying that you know there's others now some unknown, that we did have about fifteen twenty minutes ago. So I feel that this is a targeted situation and not a random act. He said if you feel it is targeted that mean that they were really telling you about the comments on the relations that I really can't in and, to be honest, I don't know the in depth. Relationships will be hard for me to comment on that until we get everyone interview once the universe, use or

interrogations began? Well, that's. And things got really weird. Ok good morning, I want specified, beginning this press conference such as this is an ongoing investigation things start off always as they are not always as they appear, both Facebook postings, that appeared we're offer by Gypsy As we dig into this further will have more information regarding the details or make a statement to use caution and donating money to this family at this time As we have on earth the appearance of a long financial fraud scheme along with this tragic event, years. As you all know, when we put out the age of gypsy, It appears that there's several database that have been used over a period of time

ranging from the age of nineteen and twenty three, and there we will take it up. Further find the exact correct one. We have investigators working on that. We also know that- walk without assistance or wheelchair, and you can do that very well. We really dont know the true background of this family. We received information Hurricane Katrina victims as you all have, but we have not confirm that this is a tragic, tragic event, surrounded by mysteries in public section we are at a point now that the prosecutor has filed charges this morning for first remember to suspects, I'd, have maybe been writing for twenty minutes and I got the boyfriend that

was being charged for the murder at the daughter, and her boyfriend had been found in would cause than Andy was actually gipsy. The daughter who was being charged. The story which started with a Facebook post, captured the attention of thousands on line, some of which form groups to discuss the case as it was all unfolding, it seems The time when everyone was still under impression a gypsy was very young, especially mentally on this. With disabled that should very ill and she was missing. It will vary. The Senate, and it was very chilling to see what it looked like. A random murderer marking the fact that he had killed her mother and think that's kind of what a guy, like you said, got everybody's attention, especially on Facebook. The post is still lie can actually viewer and walked and walked through the comments and see people wondering it's a joke wondering if she got hacked and then starting to get worried added, informal, their people to call the police

yeah, there's an initial Posten and there's a comment from the same person that posted the supposed, and after that, that's when people start to get really freetown. Yes, finally, because the second posts actually mentioned raping Gypsy. And the picture that accompanies these headline, is, Gypsy and her mother DD. Can you strive that picture for our listeners, it's a very odd picture and it was one of the reasons like I said. I originally hid that story because they seem to be very sweet, very loving, fears on the left, sheep, whiling, shooting the thing a lot of tea. She appears to have no hair a cab there. Free, though not as frail. You would think considering all of her suppose it Disabilities she's wearing a very waterings set of eye glasses, and then her? Mother, daddy, is very large and they're. Both they ve got

beaming smile on our faces and they're out each other very tightly within it. Up in the middle. There is no other way to our looks like Nicholas gotTa Jones family immediately denied that he could have had anything to do with the murder. As I know this watching him this morning, to my wife and I are air, with my staff, some supposedly he did some in Missouri, which we don't believe, because whoever called amorous stepson is twenty five he says Gypsy rose was fine, and wasn't in a wheelchair there's a role ass, she walks everything by. I don't really know anything buttering Sundays in her tongue, each other align its his girlfriend he went on there to her and brought her back, but I know the murderer had exposed a web of deceit dating back. Over a decade gypsy who locals had believed for years was confined to a wheelchair, do

slew of ailments such leukemia and muscular dystrophy was walking around perfectly fine and no one, including police. It figure exactly how old she was there were, and this invention by article there were numerous documents floating around. Because of poor actually with three separate birthday, and I believe that, because there are three separate document that say these dates and two of them are much much younger than she is one, it was like any five one. I've worked. It has ninety seven her actual birthday, isn't ninety ninety one making for twenty four Missus Sanders, Jean Stallings Plague, whose no My daughter in over a year in Canada, to my daughter in over a year in Canada I talked to me and she called me at one. Forty, seven one up she called me at one forty seven one afternoon, said: Mama bear Devious hours Y Y, you said, maybe

I are where it is add, because we love all contact with her picture living in a yet the I said they can't find yet or more directly He was nineteen. I was like wait, a minute Nineteen I was like wait. A minute he's not like me, said good, was too when I got married and gypsies at least for years older than I said, that's not right, I say, and one set bouygues, that sought out and pronounce your name They know how to finance all answered because there's, a woman named ten Blanchard Pocket, while by who'd thirty me and my daughter and figured this all out- said bringing the sound one thousand by proxy. I hate to say that said, but we ve talked about

that before regarding munch housing by proxy Megan Pack reached out to one of the lead researchers in this field, but we spoke to an episode: twelve doktor mark gratefully. He was very prompt and responding, and we had a conversation morning that brought a lot for white he's and he read my article and went over all the details and he believes that is actually a case of is a case of Montalban by proxy animal lingering by proxy. He said in most cases you dont, diagnose both its either or but there are some subjects where what they want out of this situation, waxes in Wales and though month chosen by proxy, is when you think this illness and another person to get attention or sympathy. The lingering by proxy is when you do it for material goods or monetary. Ah, monetary advances:

oh and depending on whether she wanted sympathy or money is what condition baby boy ensured would have had a far from things like Year fell later the gift warrant Sitting on my mind- and I called three clear: what did you see- that all of a sudden, the food, he was eating Gypsy. Did he couldn't you read me said the Gypsy there's something to digest. Read me: ok, I'll get it. That's cool, but she would see her weird thing: and he would put her medicine, an apple thought and she said well, that's because you won't take the pills. Ok, I can hear it you know my daughters, thirty years old

I've done that. My kid. I know we go to the dialogue. The outputs logs, killing people you saw a new turkey makes me. He didn't see. Y all gypsy was a lot at managed and Mary came what you pay for medicine gets off. You know Mary. Wouldn't you uniting the bar fifty dollars because rod. Pay for the little tabs to go on for the art modern till she was asking for money yeah. What are we were? Friends right. You know I him borrow fifty dollars. No big deal. You fifty bucks, my man, an electrician, hundred thousand dollars a year now need fifty bucks. You go by May I draw you, know Medicaid ROD Working Paper, the strips did she go four hundred miles Gypsy need a hard monitor,

He has a heart murmur. While you should get a prescription for that You have a they don't pay for that. Hastened child abuse. It really was and. While the murder itself was very planned and calculated, one of the things Doktor Feldman told me was that in adult survivors of much out by proxy, there is, we often a case of post, traumatic, stress, disorder, and they have a really hard time keeping with reality So keeping that in mind. This was not a mentally stable woman, committing a crime I don't think she even if it was real to her honestly, I think it at a certain point. She just became obsessed with wanting to get out of that situation and who wouldn't speculation, exploded on a facebook group with care Ed Called DD and

if seated Blanchard murder, case and adjusted spreading, discussion group, poor people mount mostly local Springfield people. S first were basically back and forth and saying what's been going, I. Why are they now thing that she's been picked up? Their reporting hurried is being twenty three. I thought she was nineteen going back and forth. Suddenly people who knew them we're talking? for who were related to them? We're talking her stepmother got in there very quickly, and that was a bad idea for her, because she was immediately bill. Arrived Why didn't you do something? Why didn't you know what was going on on? She watched very quickly. And then I was- in that body future, I'm not exactly sure. I use pronouncing Bobby was tedious, nephew and he arrived to say this has been going on for a long time. We all know that she was sick but debian gypsy. Last a long time ago, I haven't seen them

I've been in touch, but we all we are all aware of this and couldn't do anything so Irene. Got to him and asked if you'd like to give me an interview. He said yes very open, very willing to tell me you know, inside information law. We probably talked about half an hour basically said that when they went in Vienna, which is for the families from. Did anyone living with her father and when See was borne her There is not an picture very long. Said other than the fact that she might have been a little premature and they think they're her school might have been a little bit smaller than average other than that he was born with no disabilities, no illnesses, no complication. Anything, had they are really wasn't anything that happened. How wise, until she was a little bit older, she was old enough to ride on a motorcycle, I believe he said she'd, maybe five or six She was right in the back of a motorcycle with her grandfather, and

they took a little spill and she got a little road rash on her knee and here Dangerous took that and ran with it and suddenly there time the doktor with death, gypsy, can't walk. He needs a wheelchair. I've been speculated since then, because of all the financial fraud has been uncovered from people ensured that it was an initial reaction to attend, you scan either insurance money or disability or about family friends Sandra suggested that the scam had been percolating and duties? Mind well before that asking that move apart, that's one time and that waiting for she had the airline handicap apartment there was like why do you have have a handicap? Apartment well he's gonna, Vienna wheelchair. Why need to be in a wheelchair right now, all, but them it's too late for nearly as death and she sits down. You know, seizures I've never seen gypsy anesthesia

fuck yeah that we're talking about it. I had taken leading to a doctor's appointment and could see, was with us and He's in the car with meanwhile daily wandered into the doktor wow. How old was gypsy it around this time again little thought maybe red and the scam ran deep. Suddenly, everyone who ever knew the bland shards had asked themselves if they had all I've been a victim Why is reversed introduce to you to DD and Gypsy Blaine charred when they arrived by helicopter at Saint John Hospital? In two thousand five? They said they were fleeing from Hurricane Katrina. Saint John employee donated a home in a rural rent free to help them build a new life or the perfect time. The perfect play. I think I just kind of what we're all about in a were all about doing what we can to help people in a bad situation. Be you have found, and it has been in it-

Many now believe the bland shards were not Katrina victims at all. Right they move to a different part of Louisiana and stay there until they were supposedly displaced by Hurricane Katrina. Two thousand five: I have asked the law. People who know them if it was actually the case I've had speculation on it, but it most people that that there story. So, who knows Where are they actually were into the other five on Hurricane Katrina Head, but its very likely that she use that as another scenario to gain sympathy and because of course, once they relocated, Springfield Missouri again was where I was in college at the time of Hurricane Katrina, and we were one of the city that sort of reached out and said no to all the displaced. I remember We were opened. Our dorm vendor opening housing. He in that area

to get the terms of the hurricane someplace safe to live, so it makes sense that she would have gone. They are given the opportunity password two thousand twelve. It was all smiles at the Hope Lodge in Kansas City. Their hope Lodge is supported by donor nations through the american cancer society. It gives patients are free place to stay during treatments. Dd bland charge shaved her head in support of gypsy in front of a board that reads: thank you daddy photos, Gypsy took part in several activities. The american cancer Society issued this statement. We are shocked and saddened by this incident due to our privacy policy and relevant privacy laws. We are unable to provide a comment: indeedy and Gypsy were featured in the children's Mercy Hospital magazine, the article states DD knew it wouldn't be easy to explain the last fourteen years of her daughters, medical history to specialist, since all of

see roses. Medical records were lost in Hurricane Katrina. This story highlights of our union with Doktor Robert Becker meant he treated Gypsy, a new Orleans and moved to Kansas City, Doktor Becker men Still an employee where children's Mercy Hospital, the Blanchard went to Kansas City by Plane Angel Fly gives free flights for medical patients. Representatives tell TAT gay. Why three? The Blanchard received numerous trips between two thousand and seven to two thousand nine. Each trip is Esther five hundred dollars all from nations angel flights as the landlords provided the proper paperwork, including assigned medical, release from doktor rub, say: Gypsy always used. Wheelchair two. Apparently, the bird shards were no strangers to media attention, Didi and Gypsy, with her childlike voice praising the organizations they had taken advantage of all us huge blessing in our life. Time say between Angel Flight, the Hope Lodge and children's mercy. They save money

These life, Gypsy rose, appeared, sweet and childlike. Do that and the kindness and their hearts, amazing, and this is sort of when her media appearances began. She had a couple small things when she was Stone Louisiana. There were the towers. Gypsy was queen for a day They were already starting to lie about her age at that time and by the time they got. You Springfield, I believe at first they were put him from poorer, vocs your housing. Then they were put in you're home, I go Rachel Home occurred you think John and I was another media story and then I believe in two thousand and seven was when they got their habitat. Threaten me anyhow, be habitat for humanity, whom features is Oh percent interest mortgage The process is quite stringent. The boy Shards past it with flying colours demolished

This is just a glimpse of what life looks like just a few years ago: a family devastated by Hurricane Katrina behind Harold than me, but I love, I still have nightmares and when I saw Gypsy, Rosa mom Didi Bloodshot have come a long way. Since then we were asking member. My man had told me a glass house, and she said, one day. This will be real, Finally, I have a capital humanity. How now home is so easy to live here? And it's so p

This is no ordinary house now living with disabilities has never felt better. How I think, tat TAT S, because the time from my must force and we have a wonderful radio fattened up and now my my found the lights were to reach the now I have wider the words, so my checking that through just proves that happy endings are not just in fairy tales, their real peace and from there it were. All of the agenda, so many doctors Mozilla and proposes surgeries and family members looked into this and could not find record of the doktor she was gonna be visiting, and

from their point of view, he said, Gypsy was fine. She wait until her mother crossed a quarter. And their sheep, start pushing other cousins around in the wheelchair, He said there is an instance where our cousins were jumping on a trampoline. She got out of a wheelchair Darren, jumping like any little kid would do, and Both cases was pushing. The wheelchair around her mother saw her and screamed at her to get back in a wheelchair, the case of a trampoline. He said she started coming and she actually Gipsy actually collapse and crawled back to her wheelchair, like she was paralyzed police. Would Luther determine Gypsy was most likely to three years old, meant she had been subjected to about seventeen years of being treated like a sickly child, confirm to a wheelchair buyer. Mother oersted Caesar medication until her teeth fell out not allowed to be a norm. A girl with sake her perpetuating a fraud

one can only imagine the level of psychological trauma she must have endured, used to be friendly, easy and that after Hurricane Katrina, we got rescued by chance hospital in spring fairy. What sort of scares really pulling? Well, they were on disability, which, basically if she would not disabled that fraud, industrial straight up there were also a lot of local charitable organizations that donated things to them. They were, So, given special trade They were sponsor due to go places. She actually gotta make a wish trip to Orlando to go to both Disneyworld an the Harry Potter, studios hand. Rumor is that she was supposed to meet the cat is well, I'm not sure that those photos haven't surface. But one person who went into her there who didn't know her.

They merit Disneyworld and her and her mother were both kind of an open book just going on not about all this stuff that they were getting this wonderful turf attack. She was very fit. This was the reason of January and she was telling people to different fate that she was twelve percent. Twenty three I get there do not pick up the clipboard start right. You know the address. There were a math. I look out just gonna glass obscene girl. What a guy walk into the Gatt Somebody asked me if there was it at her, she was in a wheelchair. Now she walked the gap.

She's were like a black skirt. I think it was sure was drives. Where were you know, cause I wouldn't know issued at you know the mugshots. If you'd shaggy idea as I get eighty style, I, like your style b, I heard you don't remember. Someone gives the on your mom you now Bertha he was wearing blue jeans. It was either a white tank top or white t shirt that I got to call the doctor. What was at five, Five hundred and forty eight. I had them in the cabin told about seven or eight minutes. You know the cab, I said you know, worry I'll, go on until me to two days in there. Roger. Going Wednesday criminal one wallflowers about in. We got there, shit, you know, she's one had my she paid with twenty dollar bill about in our diverse Missus John Harmon, the captain,

four Springfield yellow cap who pick, Gipsy, bland shard and her boyfriend Nicholas GO to John at the home, or Didi Blanchard was later found. Stabbed to death. He picked them up on me, stay June, tenth from the home twenty one o three westward your way at five, forty eight m at the days in north at thirty one fourteen north can't would avenue near Interstate forty four. At five. Fifty five, a M John says both gypsy and good John carried a bag and climbed into the back seat of his cab, with Gypsy, not appearing sick or handicapped. He saw no signs that they were fleeing from a violent crime scene. They acted normal like nothing had happened, said John on Thursday afternoon June, eleventh a second cabdriver named Janice Buttrum took them the Greyhound bus station to the days in this issue. This budget. As a mother, I knew Something was wrong and, as I said, I thought it was an internet romance about to fly. The tube and I asked, is

was her father said no, that was her older brother and they were traveling together and I quickly well? What do you do in its grey? they said they were trying to get tickets. On a bus that was my biggest indication that they were lion right off the bat, because if you were traveling together as brother and sister, why aren't you on this chamber? Astride can, and you said he apparently had tray you didn't hear one round trip. Take but she didn't have won and show clearly on Israel has a Navy lane salty. Yes, he had to take his thus ticket. They were the same mass they told me they were traveling together so, where that mistake come from, I think they were planning to lead them, but he couldn't get her on his back with his bus ticket is what explain to me so they had to go to a later bus. That's why they were going back to the motel

at the days until I could leave on the net the bus that they got the tickets, and I kept looking in the back because what through me was the whig trying to figure out under all that fake hair was that little girl, because she looked young, should an area and he's seen like he was along for the ride. She added answers the cash and he had the plan and when you went to a police state, The challenge you a little bit- I mean you say no. This is says in her. She won't see, as no problem walk, and now everybody almost at the time. Why wouldn't in I had only seen a picture. I did not know this child was crippled. Though this joy. I just seen that one little picture flipping through my facebook and someone sent us is so sad. She's she's, been That is my wallet. I was a little girl, my cab with the way, and I

to play station when they challenged me. They kept San Marino. Ok, I'm like no. She had her He pulled her own bag. She moved around bag when they get him out. She grabbed the bag and they were not. She was walking very well, there was no, no way man you're, sick or fragile. Oh no, the following day on Friday June, twelfth cab records. A bland, shard and Good John called a taxi at six. Thirty, six, a m to pick them up at the days in and go to the Walmart store on Glenn Avenue and Colonel Street. That say cabbie came back about ten minutes later and dropped them but the Greyhound bus station further EAST on Kearny yellow says each cab: Fair was paid in cash by Gypsy three days later, police would discover that several thousand dollars had been stolen from a safe inside deities bedroom. They were raising money at the time to go to

some sort of medical convention in New York City that, when the reason for all the cash that was stolen and my speculation that they were waiting for, that amount of cash to be available in the house before the murdered was taken place that way they would have a dash of money to take with them when they were escape bankruptcy. My good drawn on a christian single, so in two thousand twelve, they had been secretly having this online relationship for three years, There were actually people who did know about him. I spoke with age the best friend Alida, she said that Gypsy he was creating the secret face, profiles that her mother was not aware of. So she could communicate with this guy and with Aaliyah and it was any messages that she said she had a boyfriend she'd. Let him on a Christian singled website She knew he was the one because she told him he would. She told him tat. She was in a wheelchair, unchecked back depend to move, enter it and he said

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go around. Then, whenever I met them, my mom had actually met them. Before I had and shit I tell you, how do they were? You know they're, really nice people not to give up their meet them like that and so found not a chance. I did, and I mean this is my mom thought they were detailed. Reply had ever met. So I really like to know them and am I've I've always two of my neighbours I mean I've- had an neighbours with imagining things had gotten Iraq, call me to help them, and so I offered a duty are you guys you need any help? I called my mom a call either. One of us will be over as soon as possible to help you and so at first the collars occasionally to get a little She had me helping her, I'm with one of her, She should like to deal which will take the projector and show movie on the side of her house and she saw confession and them shoot. Like a couple bucks for the ticket

you're a couple more backed by the food and think that the answer, Everyone is aware generally for humanity. Neighborhoods upper people can't afford a lot of, trees and things like that today more than ever the client. Anyone, even if didn't, have money to the point where you know how tat I guess, but can about freedom and one or two pay for any tickets, were not that anyone wanted and kind of board. So she was with you reimbursement for those things in that money was twisted, a huge were kept in India, medical expenses, and things like that, and so I could tell me non, consists, not everything, but that that's where it happened, with their long whose working multiple job in trying to help them as much as possible Have you never really fleet there were fewer apologetic. Do tell me all the time you didn't have to do this thing now you can find them. Not a big deal and

I mean. I don't make it over there as much as possible. All the way I'm getting to know each one of them incredibly. Well, I mean media and I had a couple of then that conversation which I mean she never really got into that around just be there's always, if there was any other wilma fight and choose inside you. Never really what you end up with thing should help me she's had a heart tat, never really. One of the great detail, but you could tell like what for she had gone through and whatever was bothering her eating at her, but she is yet, though, that India, Just her entire demeanor would completely change whenever she was talking about those things. And it was really concerning because understood, damned incompletely happy go lucky The time you know they were little troopers going to eat all gypsies, medical staff and them

What would you say she was talking about those things he was talking about jobs? medical wishes noted whatever in her past was really bothering her hand. You have to tell me about things that have happened in New Orleans, like point should put into jail I can't remember what exactly the details of that, but it was something kind of minor, and I one point What do you want left with an old family relatives You are in the mail and tea. According to dvd you're stuck we abusing per hour hi, daddy was locked in jail, and so whenever she got out of jail, she Guard and then they were living under their volume. It's almost a futile task to try to unravel the web of lies and deceit told by Didi over the years What I did find was evidence of a mug shot for a Claude in bland shard, Petrie date of birth may third, one thousand sixty seven, which would make forty eight years old booked

for our children and fifty dollar bond in the fall, Parish Louisiana. No date of arrest is given in the charge. Is fourteen seventy one, which is issuing worthless checks, Claudia Petrie, Olivier Didi sister. Came forward last week to see that the family was also at a loss for how this all happy, Didi Sister Claudia said they come from a family, a sick, siblings all who reside in Louisiana. She recalled a happier time when they went on family trips, but over the years she says, DD began to distance herself for Claudia, He drew a levy, a thinking of how many people her sister Didi may have deceived, feels like a bad dream. We heard it Olivier, says her sisters, path to deception and fraud started, early on, indeed his life,

Are you always, but actually was the black sheep Didi then began distancing herself from family away? I hope that your Olivier says, DD and Gypsy were then forced out of their families house and into the projects there. Deception then intensified. She says her sister, open credit cards and family names without permission and use gypsies, reporting, leukemia and muscular dystrophy ass. Her quote meal ticket Claudia, does recalled Gypsy being sick when she was young but saw red flags diminish here Dvds. Arrives Why do you think Gypsy snapped

the biggest thing it would be not only a way to get away from her, maybe I'll kill hurting. I can get away from her because she does want to treat him while she wanted Claudia says, despite multiple attempts to reach her sister dd kept her life of deception, a secret to family. Now, if I die a body now should not air to be honest, spadework aren't. I did she ever talk about her family in New Orleans. I can remember she never mentioned anyone, I knew I know there wasn't anyone, except for this either mile you sexually abused. At me, like that, as far as I know, they will be the only really nothing away. I never portion what happened to anybody else. I figured they would just coming. But I felt it was right and I don't want to die, people were written bothered by all those things and everywhere thought too much about it.

Gypsy seem really sick too. Sweden now some. She never things that bad. We will always remain alchemy, in a strong personal. You tell me about the long. It is just that I think that but she would have to go through and she should talk about coming like oh, my gosh, you withdraw Vancouver, can now, but I'm fine on here She really seem like a little trooper bar shiver everything gray until she really seem like a little trooper I mean as went on. I mean she never really seen that big, but whenever it can do things like you, than her own. You could tell that are at least two things like just happened. Trouble do anything up her own. I mean there were many times when they would be invited to things in the neighbourhood of them. Well, the other wouldn t,

to go, and do it always try to at making apparent that here look here to bring both whatever their should have a brain and then just though Hymen go homesteader could rest. Because they re unjustly worm the public. Incredibly circle. Maybe it was always being diagnosed with more what's going on, I mean on Sunday when, over those speaking with the name, The sheriff someone had even bought up. How did he just found, how about her health was actually getting worse and want to argue corny new Leah Didi was also claiming to be sick and getting worse. Possum. Up the ante on both sympathy. And donations of time and money like that with another thing that really bothered me, as you know here she was really really speaking, helping hoping just do Lastly, I would now just myself:

I am entirely neighborhood. They do whatever they could to help both of them out and they never appeared to be viewed heavily figured that work whenever they do just got back not drawn up. Something else. Did you ever get a sense of her being overly protective of gypsy, I'm? now you know, the time when I would agree with what do you do? A thing like that you couldn't certain shows or her, because she would always remind me that did he have, integrity of like a sudden known as though I am sure you know, she's not to be protected, just think about it, she showed her. The candle curbing younger mental you than she actually wisely. I mean again, it didn't think is the fifth time, and whatever the the boyfriend did you know about this year.

She's actually had a couple. There was never any twenty eleven. Where did he had gone away from her home and let the sky and hot but apparently Nicholas, go to John had not been gypsies first boyfriend. Twenty eleven she had met, another man online, Megan Pack, describes the strange event as too he tried to escape the clutches of her mother to visit her secret boyfriend in the hospital she arrived at, the neighbor's house out on the first people who spoke out, and he noted that she was not in a wheelchair. She was walking just fine. She was wearing a wig and She was asking him if she could get arrived at the hospital she was frantic because one of her boyfriend's had been beaten up and was apparently in not good conditions if she had confided with her friend Leah about this relationship. Furthermore, number changes. How do you know how to use a very understanding guy? He looked path towards stability. He loved her for her really see an understanding and things like that but but somehow, I wanted to say

local authorities early forty or something I am sure that you are not like must have advised. You understand me, did you really wants to get to know? Tiffany has herself and not others disability, you think that everybody knew I'll just be was gypsy at this point. I'm gonna until always came up. I never realized how much I could not keep track of her age, because I always knew that you a couple years younger. You mean point what they told me She told me in October that she was eighteen, though she would have been like fourteen or fifteen whenever she met the sky and twenty eleven Fifteen year old, dating a thirty or forty Earl yeah You don't think that was what did you think of that if we really uncomfortable I'll tell her, you know what I could but maybe you should talk to guys in Hungary, as you know, are you sure This is someone you wanna be talking. Q is it sure? Are you sure you want to deal with

yeah, I let it be known that I was then very. What's the big brother, in time and not her mom, and I can't tell you what to do and I didn't want to methods of friendship were most, but that connection. I did want be bossy and rude to her, because I I knew I was the only person to talk to you about these things and, if she quit talking to me about them, then he would she go to you Someone who claims to be a friend of the boyfriend says she made it to the hospital and quote was then brought to what was then my house. I can- by that. She had an idea that stated that she was eighteen. At the time it was shortly after she had gotten their that her mother showed up and caused quite a scene threatening friend who was suffering from multiple injuries, including a broken back with legal action Gypsy was a minor and that the reason she had different ideas was due to a mix up in paperwork from her. In Katrina and missing records. The wig, blonde. She had no glasses and I can assure you she walked just

Who knows how many other times as has happened where she's made the attempt to be free, no matter what her mother was always there shutting down, she seems to have told bull that you wanted to get away from her mother I got. Since yesterday, with that, sentiment that this witness- had actually seeing gypsy yell at her mother and yet very up to that end He told her that she just wanted to get away. She wanted a normal life and this this person and you know it was an uncomfortable situation- and me still thinking that you know she was not in good condition and maybe not able to send for herself in the real world. She said I just removed my thought on a situation that appears a gypsy had been try new scope for a while. Trying to live a normal life, be a normal girl somehow again and again he was unable to

local high with reaching out to me personally and privately, no one wanted their names released and though I have it but there were several people were very concerned. First of all because she was getting a lot of free stuff, Then she got a customs that of men, the lower in armour, which I am not aware of what it is, but it looked very core issue is also she didn't have to pay for any of the local conventions that she went to. I'm sure she got a lot of flag, but these people, reached out and said that there was actually an infinite awhile back and multiple people reached out that. Why start digging that merit infinite back in two thousand and eleven or Gypsy was caught with a man, and they were either at a hotel room in his house. I'm not completely show what it was, but then They were aware that she was going to meet with him, and everyone was under the impression she was a minor fourteen or fifteen. They are about concerned because they cared about her. They went

her when they got there, she had some sort of identification that proved her true age, which was the ninety ninety one day, for she was trying to tell me people, I'm eighteen, I'm not a minor and ass. If they were starting to hear this story, her mother shows up with alternative identification, saying no she's too We call them all over your eyes. That's different piece of paper, have a typo, these are the real ones that we had to get because Hurricane Katrina, because of our documents, what a joy to now everybody thinks she's, just a little girl trying to get away. You know trying to get away or some improper behaviour. Unfortunately, the man she was with Benito charges by sea. Obviously had a very tarnished reputation from that point. And they were friends who are saying we wish to believe them. Does he now he said that shoes of age, I can prove it and everybody just started

but a tarnished reputation was apparently not enough for Didi, and so it was after giddy had shown up. As the confrontation, apparently force gypsy to apologise to the members of this convention. This man was, given the ban and then after that was when Deedee wanted to meet up with him, and someone else actually confirm. That, yes, when she arrived, she did have a hammer, I'm not sure how it went down from there. It hung laughter if he decided back to show up, but was clearly it and fairly intimidating the person who allow me this said something very sad, and he made gypsy apologize to the convention staff. When I talk to Gypsy later, she said all she wanted to do would be a real girl on our part. Are you later she meets Nicholas, go to John the men who would allegedly murder her mother came up early tole me too much about him as a person He told me that he was twenty four and it was in October,

she'll garden. Conversation thing that she's eighteen dating boy out and coming about how they met on a cushion building site. How again he looked pastor disabilities you love her for her? She suddenly, after three days talking could than they were in love he called her king charming and he would call her queen and consistent and things like I mean just the entire conversation defer coming unravelled and one on about how they are planning to meet other Cinderella. Premier, you're gonna, be out of the bag he's going to be just that because of what they always did for the premier. Where she was going to introduce tend to her mom, you gonna make it out, like I'm just some guy, she not there at the premier. She told me that they are going to have their first kiss there, but she was gonna, tell mom to economic now What is a complete coincidence? march of this year?

planned on meeting up the him here, town in Cuba, more advised me going on about how they play I'm getting married in a gazebo in the snow and ice could be removed roses everywhere in there. Child was going to be Nicholas. Paul is a very childlike mentality. Does it seem like? Do you She is in fact cycle. Declare mentally under developed no- I I really don't believe, though I think purple opinion is that you become so consume with fairy tales in all these different movies that her no man was going watch. Consequently, but she does, your life could be a fairy tale because If you look at her life think happened to work out for her perfectly just as they wanted to I mean, even though there the worst and left patches, I mean they would find something,

incredible to counteract whatever terrible thing happened in their life. Ten and though I mean. I honestly believe that she thought fairy tale. The fairy tale ending were obtainable. I mean, I don't think it has anything to do with her child, like mentality which of passion is raised. This boyfriend who she was making marriage plans with and naming, future children with just three after meeting him online. Wasn't exactly your typical prince, charming? In fact, he had a of a criminal record. He did. He was actually caught debating to pornography in a local mythical. Why would they be near, haven't and rigour, What what else do we know about a minute? Is anything else it's been uncovered. It does not seem likely come through very feeble Hawaiian, his

Father is registered sex offender and you know, obviously they were also allowing this girl to stay with them without really knowing anything about her so Kennedy Sheriff's office, probable cause statement, outlines the facts as we understand them to be. At present, nickel admitted travelling Springfield misery to see gypsy. He asked her at one point if she was sure she wanted him killed DD. Gipsy said yes he admitted stabbing Didi several times in the back. While he was on top of her holding her down. He stated it was at night when you went to stab Didi and she was lying down and believed to be asleep. Nicholas stated You thought about raping Didi. However, he did not do it the night he used was given to him by Gypsy estate. He would not have killed anyone. Less gypsy asked him to email the knife They both home, address up the blood it caught with it Nicholas said he went to the bath. Inward gypsy was hiding and let her know he had cut his finger with a knife volume

stabbing her mother, they both again if the blood in the hallway they took him. A thousand dollars from a safe inside deities Bedroom nickel stated that he knew what he had done was wrong, but that he did it. Gipsy, because she asked us to later police. Interrogated gipsy, and she admitted to being at the residents when her boyfriend Nicholas GO to John stabbed her mother. She had me to knowing her boyfriend was going to stop her mother and she did nothing to stop it. Nor did she the authorities Gypsy admitted she was in the house when her mother was being stabbed and she could hear the screaming. She admitted the posting on Facebook. The comment that bitch is dead. She pose Did this because she wanted her mother found quicker by law enforcement. She tried to clean Nicholas's blood by using baby wipes. I think that's gonna be a really important detail. What shows that Gypsy was completely complicit she was in the house while her mother was being killed.

Ass. An cleaning up the blood shows that they had intent to try to get away with this. But they were alive the tightest- I know what the crime of passion sort of we'll come out, but this is obviously very plan. Once Gypsy and Nicholas were arrested, many were shocked to see just how different gypsy looked. She looks she obviously with very differently her appearance is not being infantile eyes that, like it had been but the girl huge glasses that were very odd trendy in very out of style. She would have been donated nicer, glasses by this point, but the side their frames end. The thickness of their wonders, make her eyes appear smaller and her face appear smaller, more childlike, though That's a big part of why she looked so different, but the other thing that I have noted it looks like her hair has been being shaped. Obviously, to give impression of someone who wouldn't have hair. Because they were doing the radiation treatments for leukemia, but the thing that strikes me the most is that

her there has gotten back to some extent, so it's not been freshly shape, and she knew her face- looks much fuller than it has in a while, and so I'm wondering if there something that Gypsy did if she had been planning, listen for a while and wanted to be held, in both mile and not quite so frail and if she would. Maybe not taking the medicine daddy was giving her, maybe not eating food. The deity was giving her doing something to prepare for the escape, because there are many ways she looked different, but the main different I've noted is just how healthy she looked with those who had known Gypsy as a sickly child for years and still from the shock of seeing her new look in the booking photos watching her walk into a court room was a spy To go, they were not prepared for one of the things that people noticed when she was brought in front of the judge was tat. Her chest was much larger than had ever appeared in any photo

so that would make sense if she was developing like a normal woman. Her mother would need to do something to push those back to where it wasn't quite so prominent, because I believe it would have been hard to pass her off as one thousand four hundred and fifteen when in reality she was culture, the eighteen nineteen so she she walked in the court room. She said The shape had that use three in the mug shop, auto, obviously she's very hunched over, she seems very emotional, only time surely speaks is the judge asked her to confirm her draft and when she does talk- the very high childlike voice and it's very wavery, like she's, about to cry He's very scared. As I said she's very emotional, Some people have said she does not think on more, which I don't know how you can tell from a person thank their address. But in my opinion she that at least the shoe terrified

What is this branches curved address? Swinging went around three went away, sprang, Mr Perry. Three six, nine and three. You know what for trade to be a very sick. Very you know, Sonny bright, hearted, little girl and now everything about it. His chin, pictures emerged of a very adult, looking gypsy in cosplay, red and black wig it an M style outfit and she's licking a knife. Some wondered if this was the very nice used to kill her mother, anyone from pictures on getting waiting- and I want you she always coincide,

the outside world one world for around people, the web of lies that was exposed after the murder revealed that there were far more victims than just Didi. Some of these victims will have to come to terms with the idea that the world around them. Times are much darker place. And they would like to imagine people want to help people want to help one. We're back you waited for controlling that. We went to arrange. The first thing I did was put my daughter school one of the pair offered accept place gay then her poor, but now I'm staying in my dad's apartment were sleeping on. The couch were good, but people want to help make them feel good force. It makes it makes them feel their toning for some

I am very cynical so yeah I know you got away with diesel taken advantage of- yeah. I really do, I really do that's all I've been really say about that. Is there anything else you like everybody to know about see your daddy I'm not completely sure I keep getting asked the question and I It's really hard to answer, because I thought of me. These people, eight or nine years, can I've become real, close to them. I thought they were incredibly good. Friends of my mandate, but everybody's and united, by not done everything could have?

Possibly be alive, it's really hard that question mostly. I. I don't want anyone to taken everything. There is bad and if you do this one as well as you Making the gypsy ought to be done and I don't believe she's an assent and. I really don't know where I am about the punishment and things like that, but I really do hope that we get to hear is part of the story before any we'll conclusion from the name, because you know I don't know either I personally believe that everyone needs that closure. Did you take this, all experience going through this. Knowing someone for eight or nine years, like you said, finding out that their whole life is a lie.

This is going to change your view of the world. Yeah, I know I like to believe. I know how many people. So well because I have to say you know that have shown me that, nobody is going to be This whole made it all the more real to me like I wouldn't question everything- and I won't take anything for a fact until I see through of that. Besides, I mean I've done so much but if you have on this point, come out, and all these claim me things like that. I make their question So much about a world like em The other day that people we believe that in others,

the people in the world? Will not. Hope, isn't law, but then the wandering by now the kindest most pure people, but you have ever met. I've been broad and have been wine and busy at their job. Only the people of your question pour water. Think I'm really really hard. I wish you the best of luck, I'm can imagine what you're going to, but thank you so much for answering a lot of these questions and setting the story straight.

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