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Episode 58

2016-01-17
Cathy Ruson from courtchatter.com describes Facebook Killer Derek Medina as "an odd duck." That's probably the most accurate way to describe this man, who shot his wife eight times in the kitchen of their South Florida home, while she was preparing breakfast for her 10-year-old daughter, and then posted a picture of his handiwork on Facebook for all of his friends and family to see. In this second part, to our two-part story, we get to know the strange man who for years seemed desperate for attention. The YouTube channel that Derek Medina left behind is chocked full of dozens of meaningless "selfie" videos of this narcissist performing various sporting activities. At times, he seems quite normal, then at other times there's clearly something "off" about him. Medina described himself as an actor, after playing a small non-speaking part in an episode of the television series Burn Notice. He also fancied himself an author after self-publishing 6 bizarre books with unnecessarily long titles. We delve into these materials to try and understand the mind of this cold-blooded killer. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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you're not sure what there you're welcome to certain scale season. Three episode. Fifty eight show that reveals the worst monsters are real. Mrs part, two of the two port story of Derek Medina, the face a killer, sat beside. You will get to know this man through the various archive material. He left behind its an inn: into the mind of a cold, narcissistic sociopath which joined once again by Cathy Rousillon
chattered outcome to help us break down the trail, testimony but before we get started. I wanted to let you know about a pretty amazing documentary series that came out last month on Netflix you'd be surprised if you haven't heard of it by now, because it exploded in popularity through word of mouth. It's called making a murderer and the ten Documentary follows the life of Stephen Avery, was wrongfully convicted of rape and spent eighteen years in jail for crime he did not commit. What's he finally gets exonerated and freed is adjusting back to normal life when there's a murder and guess who gets blamed for
spoil it for you, but it's a pretty fascinating series, if you're looking for something new to watch and between upsurge of certain scale that, as we start off part two of the story with my immediate prosecutor, Leah Klein's opening statement, The defenders record amateur. He never lost by ever one five and
that wasn't gonna start on August wasn't going to lose going to lose by letting her leave ass. She had said she going to do I wasn't going to lose his wife he called them on August, eighth, two thirteen morning hours, dependent His wife Gerasa argument? They were arguing over what might ordinarily typical partner partner husband. Why aren't you If you to spend more time and wasn't be responsive Maybe she's the needy sorted, isn't an online to spend more time with her when she would bring it. He got observer. So she got angry about an organ upstairs in their bedroom,
She threw stuff stuff she had around Gara have during the course of your. What did the defendant you went guy, he went to the climate. I hope this guy how Why didn't you gonna hurt written to shoot her if she is not throw in mascara towel? I social went downstairs to the kitchen. Maid can't hate for a ten year old daughter, Isabel Beer. Who was upstairs before he did that. Go she told him, but leaving him forget that She was not to be the air. He came home that where'd. You go down to the kitchen to make progress for the door and he has, as there was in the kitchen,
You can use the argument whisper she had left downstairs to re, engage because he doesn't look according to defend in his own words Would you outta here I see on video, very calmly, he said the Jews punching him in the kitchen, one he came down and reengaged her any organ. So. What did he do? getting contraband, push her way right then, and there He didn't call. I want one he did what he knows, how to do the kitchen and he made it, may turn out. He went down the hall, he went stairs. He went back to his bedroom
back to the closet back to them, where he revolts began. After the first time he had fallen on her, I'm gone. Look it now. Out of his room, stairs down the hall. That's easy! The kitchen to confront her again with the girl, while he was going upstairs enjoying all those things and coming back with a gun where was follow him continuing the argument up the stairs punching him. Always there were screaming with him, continuing to do whatever she was making a pancake for an hour. While he went to go, get the gun, I was going to be used to kill. He was going to introduce a gun.
What we have been relatively chemical, husband one and then according to the police. Picked up enough. She picked up at night because she saw him with a gun, she was herself according to his own, And what did she do She called him It is an undisputed He said I, armed her jasper, five birthday. Approximately one hundred and forty nine and the defendant six at approximately two hundred pounds at the time twenty five, an amateur boss, of course, to disarm her from it
He put the gun in his hand and be disarmed. Her when the kitchen door and restore not adapt because the bed even though she had just been disarmed of weapon, that she's using should protect herself by his she caught in the trap anymore, when he shot, not one time, again Why to make her star not really be allowed if any, better not for Time by a tiny. When Germany also shouted, he emptied the cliff a sharp calling twenty one entry and exit and by
admission every shot, his party and what did he do that He did what people do when they win He told me. Get me one. In the hope that maybe getting her how because he had done it- he didn't run out of his house to call for help for his wife who is laying on the floor with twenty one bullet holes in her hard? I said how to shoot her, because she was tat good luck, here upstairs. Put on a upstairs to get dressed while she later today and I am
but the poor lacking achieving number one, each other. Why and what did he do? took a picture of her backward from being on her knees. Howling corner of the kitchen wildly was shooting her. He posted at all. And what was the power and go president, to death sentence for killing my wife Why are you guys? Miss you guys, take care. Facebook, people You'll see me in the new model me and any more will be abuse. So I did what I did. I hope you understand me He killed his wife supposedly without a ban. But later you talking about being on the news and you to see the Pope
he told me tat is hosting because he wanted her family to know about what had happened, want to know he told a different story. Somebody else he wanted to say goodbye to his friends. He told Christine the communications officer at the South, my police department, I had to leave I? to say goodbye, and the judge of the slave once require because he can say something so he can be on the news that the law is very specific. Ladies and gentlemen, you'll get that law from the judge me make no mistake, no mention overnight no mention just any sire. So we leave the house,
right. Now turned himself, is my belief. As you can Well, he told them people at his. Then killed her, no mention of night you're not only going to hear from these witnesses, but you're also going to see the physical evidence The position that she was when she was killed that was in the home in his home. You will see the sequence of events. The fund is going up. The stairs she get his gun well Jennifer remains in the kitchen, corroborate, lay awake stay here his hair of beyond their. The actual shooting, errors, I've waited. He knows where they were acquainted.
Must be the final moments of Jennifer Alfonso videos chilling. It's an overhead shot partially showing the entrance to the kitchen where this is visible to the right in the hallway and dining room is visible to the left clearly see Jennifer Alfonzo at the sink washing dishes. Then you see Eric Medina walked down stairs through the hallway and into the kitchen after that? see a few movements. Form of shadows on the countertop Dark Medina, starts to walk out of the kitchen and back into the hallway. When it looks like an arm strikes him around the head or neck area. You mean They turned around and walked back into the kitchen, apparently unafraid of any sort of threat. Coming from it. You see the back of Medina as he backs up towards the hallway again, but there's no more visible activity shadows, then he walked back.
And into the hallway, while doing so, apparently, flipping is middle finger at his wife seconds later. He walked back down stairs and into the kitchen with purpose. You see him again back up one last time before approve of explodes around the camera Obviously the result of a chain. In air pressure after the gun discharges, There are several more plumes of dust after that before dared Medina casually walks back out of the kitchen into the hallway to retrieve a cell phone. He then walked back towards the kitchen, looks through the doorway and his wife, Who is now dead or dying uses it Take a picture then puts it, pocket goes back towards the dining room, grabs the hoodie and casually walks out of the apart as he go towards the front door,
to get his baseball cap zip up his hoodie unlock his door. Yours, Cathy, on from court shattered outcome. The law says, premeditation can happen in there's no time frame, so it can happen and in a second a few second, You only have to be able to form a thought to changes I do not do it premeditated him, going upstairs getting the gun and coming back buyers right self people. Some people think premeditation. As you know, you planned this out for days and months and no premeditation It's only did you have enough time to decide not to do it, and so he was guilty, because what you can see on the inside apartment under surveillance, cameras inside and what we see happening is there. You can see the
in an argument, you can see that he walks into the kitchen area and then, if they're off camera, and then he leaves, and then he comes back with a gun at the point he if he could have walked out of the apartment, but it comes back with a guy got upstairs and come back with gone there's your premeditation fundamental, you have a nice at that point or not, which nobody believed really that she does. There's your premeditation. He come back with a gun and many shoot your eight times. Medical examiner testified TAT. She was cowering in the corner when he was being You also see a complete lack of evidence that kid no injuries on tenth and no come injury are defended but I told you that he could do things for himself. going upstairs and getting drought and coming back seeking the picture. Putting it on Facebook is one. The second one was
Javert tell you all die, she will come I told you, the giant road lightly and kitchen, maybe more rapid. You're gonna hear. Luckily I had to break down the door of the whole. The door was locked, he locked it won't be long in addition to leaving his dead wife in the kitchen, It is about in the house with her and they found her upstairs in advance because after getting dressed, as he said he tell me, before telling the world he was gonna, be on the nose and so he went to Isabel Now the tower he had killed her mother now. You tell her that she didn't have a mother a more here stay in the room watch TV. Come downstairs,
no concern that she could have easily wander downstairs after he had locked her in the house alone. I could have found her dead mother in that kitchen, with twenty one follicles, everybody why Christine CE He had say goodbye go to show that he had time to take a picture and post about himself, but no time to call anyone to get Isabelle that would lead to the police to carry her downstairs after they broke into the house with a blanket over her face so that she would not have to be taken by the kitchen and see her mother dead. On the floor of the kitchen Lazy, John, while the others will show that may have wanted this to be self defence the testimonial and physical evidence will absolutely not support finding it that, as the judge, will instruct you and give you the law
What will you say We defend. All about him his rule, his way he will issue where he was and he leave where he was. and he tells the about it on his terms the issue here, How do I prevent any ten year old, Isabella the air and walking her in the house with her dead mother downstairs and for killing his unarmed wife? He is guilty Here's a spoiler Derek Medina did not.
Get first degree. Murder policy issues when I was there with ensuring that invented Harry display greater tendency that council will ensure that the council is willing to invest. In the second degree, murder is with dirt. Medina was charged with in Florida. That could mean a sentence of up to thirty years, who was also permit the state to request a term of life in prison.
do you think there is a single point in the trial where it was done for him that there was no possibility of reasonable doubt at that point he would never ever going to get felt the fact I think it with its very foolish fan aware because his interview with the police. You know hours after he killed her. He says she had a knife. I took it. Marketed in the drawer. That's it self defence with over at that point, that his words so and here think, there's no proof she ever had a knife. Ever there is no proof she ever had a knife. He only said that to the police and nothing ever came out on trial that she ever had a knife So we don't even know that happened in the prosecutors. Don't even would believe that sheriff organised on him that with only his initial story. So I don't know said the
the only thing in my opinion they could have ever gone with some kind of insanity. Mental because you know who takes a pitcher imposed from Facebook. Now both are really really hard defensive to ever ever proved and get away with that out. The self defense, I think, was a loser from the beginning also, after the verdict is red Medina. Sits there stone faced before spring, something to his attorney attorney stairs straight ahead. Does spot a minute later in a whisper something else seeming. Unaware or uninterested in any semblance of court procedure, formality or etiquette,
when they read the verdict. How would you describe as reaction? None, he had none, you didn't have any, but you know it's very interesting because that's what we see ninety percent of the time, they rarely see reactions and defended faces you really. You always expect it expect to see something and He didn't. He really didn't have anything I didn't really see in it change in him. You know he's he's an odd and its common duck anyway. He's not not mental, but he is he's just different anyway, so he didn't really then tat the planet this out there I thought. Maybe you have an outburst of because I know what happened pre trial during times the court run. He didn't even have that this didn't have much of anything goes wrong a pre trial hearing in July, twenty fifteen dean at the preceding by refusing to keep quiet even
the behest of his attorney Medina continues to interrupt the judge talking. Evidence that he says should be examined in his case presume this is the surveillance video that was The trial is eventually thrown out of the corner of law. Is a video evidence of Jennifer Alfonzo trying to murder me he says, but who is this as Cathy recent describes odd duck, will it turns the dark Medina left us an archive of information showing us exactly who he is waiting. Best go crazy, is on the back
freedom, that monsieur life when you two Derek Medina leaves behind a channel chart. Of dozens and dozens of videos videos or of himself during various activities. In almost all of them right beside him is his wife, Jennifer Alfonso, wait to see how close we are. Cities, bats, That's a close if you're gonna get to these bats in this video Jennifer Alfonzo films, Montana runs around exploring a bad cave in the Bahamas and throwing stones at the sleeping bats warning in this one he's fast.
Animal rule- everyone is a guy's reading Many of the videos are him doing sporting activities of some sort, that is playing basketball,
or golf retrying is look at. A banning cage dangerously drag racing. Do residential neighborhood in Miami gambling on those videos or short and poorly film. capture much There are dozens of There are videos of him at various sporting events and Ba soccer college ball, tennis way through he'll train the camera back on himself. As saying check me out, their videos of him in a marsh pit, videos of him wrapping about how, in his own words, he feels about the world
even a bizarre video of him attending a college debate club as a spectator, and filming meaningless parts of it before pointing back at himself This is someone who was desperate for attention. I Noah Noah Noah Noah Noah Noah Noah. I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know Did you know that there are a few little weird prophetic moments like this throughout the videos which are otherwise nothing more than fewer or a narcissist.
Now there's no one. such moments occurs. When he's showing Jennifer Alfonzo had a play, porn practical issues. She wanted all she went there. Yet another occurs as you. Please call of duty black opts to with Isabel stepdaughter. playing the game. The two opponents stand across from each other with their guns pointed at the other. The game is detail who can fire first, until you agree, Are you ready? really see you you behind me. Now: ok, you're, right there
again on the country to get us. They still we will all gain each other's target. on the contrary, one Why do you have your view on this? Cited on that issue. We have to be how each other's target each other, on the contrary, keep to target those states those they still say that we have reached our target. I got three one: two three Gotter sigh added to these sites. two days ago. I'm scared. Now, since the young girl after virtually shot in the face in a video game by Derek Medina, but pails, in comparison to the more fascination that one of the videos is drenched in which shows dear
Medina Jennifer Alfonzo and her young daughter, Isabel, enjoying a beautiful day in Miami poolside, and an unnamed marina which Medina amusingly referred to as his yacht club. This is the very same marina which the three would spend all day enjoying as a family the day before Derek. China would shoot Jennifer Alfonzo eight times ending her life, Hizbollah, gory laughs and smiles and pull time fun. The background sailboats lazily flow by and yet again Tina points the camera at himself to address.
it during Youtube fans, as you can see on the campers thereof, and find out some activities allotted speaking of him being an odd Doug? Did you see some of the videos he's posted on his youtube? You? Yes, I thought lot about tonight. I tweeted a lot of those he you now. Yes, very odd people to actually go there because think I'll stay up there. I don't want anyone ever gonna. Take it down, consume ever have access to them again. But when it is say I spoke to a couple of Jennifer I'll find both friends and she was an and nice I'm person she may have had some of her own demands, but you know we got their own things going on, but I don't know what you're far Derek Medina. I dont know because we can see that even in their Youtube videos back when he wasn't, as we are doing
now. He was never all the way where I I am worried to death, like always kind of out there There are some things a little off with a bright, exactly what she was just such a you know it is what it does mention her she's, a shoe so beautiful and she hasn't author who, by the way a special needs he killed. Her mother in the apartment, her there and he left her that ten year old daughter in the apartment, the possibly find her dead mother and she has special needs not exactly a very nice thing to do, but Tippit of a narcissist in his own he just had to leave the apartment. He had to go say goodbye to his friends and family. That was me porn than Isabel, possibly finding her dead mother on the kitchen floor. Well, while we're getting to know Derek Medina when he dimension that he fancied himself an actor playing a minor unspeaking part in an epoch. Of the network. Television series burn notice. The
so called himself an author after Self Publishing, six books with this. Titles, such as how ice someone's life and marriage and family problems through communication yeah? That's the title: I'm not kidding and his other book world, Just ask yourself why we are living a life full of lies and how I an emotional writer made all of my professional dreams come true. Blocking societies teachings, that's the with a book There is also that book title de Rossa, Tyrolean area if the world and today, how would you react to saving the world or helping the world, or would it be all over for you, These are all available in Kindle or paper back the lesson forget the aptly named how a judge, mental and selfish attitude is destroying the world we live in, because the world is vanishing beneath our eyes beneath our eyes, the six books. Well, there more pamphlets, really he claims to have written in six months according
website, he writes, I gave some months of working on six books of guidance and self help to saving people's lives and relating to problems. We must overcome as one world one nation one country give me the opportunity to touch your spirit. Give me the chain to change or world or You understand the world we live in. These six will change our world in seconds days. Months years, that's what he wrote in his website. I don't If I want my world changed by Derek Medina, but well I could resist because Media will only take you so far. Only certain scale will actually delve deeper and region excerpts of his book. This one comes from his masterpiece, entitled humans who are gifted and can see the supernatural spirit goes world. We live in called ghost, haunted, adventures NGO
Ah of energy, a spirit can use to become very powerful. Ghost hunting is an experience. That half the people in the world, or even more can not really too, not everyone has a gift to see ghosts. I am writing. This but for those who are unfortunate and cannot experience because adventures. I have been able to experience. Life is all about
experiences and learning from your mistakes. I have been attacked by demons while sweeping away gotta you name it, it's happened to me. I've been attack, since I was a child investigating a ghost and they paranormal situation is worth the results. The feeling being attacked by something you cannot possibly see is not. The best feeling goes can follow and mimic your actions like the way you talk and move. There are different. Of intelligent ghosts, some goes can a clear and complete conversation with you. There are some ghosts who can appear a black shadow or white mist; they can appear and disappear some intelligent growth casual, color like an image of yourself Then there are also poltergeist Those are very intelligent and can control your life. Ghosts are very intelligent or fighting each other, these costs will become stronger and be able to be more active when they observe actions by humans.
Go. Hunting is an art and takes a lot of patience. I have investigated many cases in different cities. As a ghost hunter we have had a lot of situations happened in our homes and while investigating in hotels in museums we have been able to catch appearing in speaking into the camera. Sir very intelligent and can be peaceful or harmful. Ghost hunting is a gift. I remember first time, catching a ghost any museum, a key West Florida. I walked into this place and felt the courts, but and the hairs on my arm price rise rise. I also, fortunate to catch a video of a ghost speaking right into the camera and see in Peru. Click clear words that she is We human and we agreed in the video. You can see clearly a black shadow come up from the ground and rise to the top of the ceiling. While talking right, to the camera. Then the ghost vanished hunting is a gift that takes a lot of skill. Not ever one can interact with ghosts. I've been exploring,
situations since I was a child and I was a child everyone has to find their gifts from their heart action. From the heart we, the people, have who apply that passion and create a world of the talents we were blessed with and share it with the world every day that passes We have been ignoring our talents and gives we People are in denial. Something is not something you can just pick up and start seeing ghosts appear it some I was always blessed with, since I was a child. I just found it of mine, and I applauded the correct way. I think the most him Britain tool in our world today is knowledge. That is a tool that will take you as far as you want to go in life. Journeys are aware, you make them, it all starts with an idea. Then it leads to a hobby. Then it leads
too bad and great the experiences and then at last it leads to this book. You are reading right now, created by yours. Truly created costs can even follow you from home to hold. It has been proven that goats can actually attack humans. The main waste. The ghost attacks you is, while you're sleeping that's when they attack its action. been proven. A ghost can kill human while human sleeping its action happened to me. I have slept for years. since I was a child with sleeping paralysis It means when you sleep, you are restrained and you stuck turkey cannot move. He goes into a shock.
paralyzed until you snap out of it or wake up been in this situation. I have I've been in this situation of being awake and attacked by a ghost when I was there Every time I heard the ghost messing with the radio downstairs and then walk up the steps and the was attacked me by jumping on me and restraining me First thing was that I was awake was awake. I moved right and left and for the first time ever, I attacked the ghost by taking on buying out of the ghost that was the first time I was ever able to attack back, and I felt great being attacked by it? this can happen in many ways. People horrid by ghosts can get bruises scratches can even give your heart attack and take your life goes server, physical. In many ways, the differences? You cannot see where you are going up against. That's the issue goes can sometimes be very brutal. I know
family member who was attacked by a ghost, and this was one everyone was sleeping and he go to the hospital for stitches. He was justly and then was attacked within seconds I have also been attacked and it marks on my back what happens to me very often third, meeting appears to have had a very strong connection to his grandparents. We have been seeing our normal situation simply childhood. My experience from life after death was in nineteen, ninety nine. That was when my grandma passed away and she appeared on the same day as the viewing before the funeral. She arose over her sister and made the whole room shine like a diamond. It was an amazing thing to see every one was in shock. family one can use. I was what to see her face in the middle of that shining diamond plashing bright light. I started this coast hunting experience after a lifetime of experiences. My object is to show the world what is really out there. The problem is People are ignoring these important issues,
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what's up a phone me so proud of himself and accomplished author helping everyone else, understand the world around them The irony is almost Shakespeare, Why are you wearing recording here, let alone we read the title. What is this title thing. This. What does it say? Leggy does it was you say in English, say to love I'll say: will you just how I see daily did
She doesn't said the eighty nine year old grandmother would live long enough to learn that our grandson is a murderer among them, this video was found dead kill his wife, Jennifer Alfonso, Here's Medina again talking about his books. In Austria, with emotional writer dot com? you can see. Is that may website six books? and created in six months- slow down. You had better idea. Here is the first for not name any book. Can you Your second on, first one is how Obviously, communication second one is goes hunting which is also self help victims of the supernatural world
the third one is how I just met our selfish attitudes, trying to where we live and biggest waters vanishing beneath their eyes. We have attention and world save yourself and we'll just ask yourself what we're living a life of lies. How an emotional writer made all my profession dreams come true blackest, say teachings. That is the fifth book. And last police. The six book, and last but not least, is the world ended today. How would you react soon? The world are helping the world. Would it be all of you, six, the fear before the third,
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Don't Africa forget to or to emotional rider dot com? enjoy the books, guys, there's something stupid. Up about a murderer. Writing self help books special that writer seems to be partially illiterate anyway? Let's get the Cathy from court shattered outcome. Would you the actual strategy wise for what happened in that kitchen would like the story line that the defense was trying to paint for what happened in the kitchen, because to me, I just kind of lost it didn't seem like there is any rational explanation of vote
and dared Medina killed his wife in a fit of rage, and it seemed like the defence just kept grasping at straws. Well, let me tell you what I think happened. Why think happened to this defence? Is there can be no way on this? The fan- and that was the problem with this defence on, if you, if you really watched the trial, he was in constant contact with and if the attorneys sitting by him, whoever it was they took, turns he was constantly talking to them constantly passing them notes constantly trying to get their attention even when they were a question and a witness he actually interrupted. Mary and after the clothing argument was die. And said your honour, your honour, because he wanted his attorney to actually more at the end, Derek within was trying to run the entire trial, and I think that was the major problem his defence had tried to put out advance
Let's hear one of his attorneys that I think the one you're describing seemed almost annoyed by in the constant, seem to keep constantly trying to say something to offer more or lead em and it just seemed like he eat. It starts to get annoyed after a while, just in one here anymore. Yet it ended up with the fly on the wall, to hear everything he was saying or what he was writing them now in pre trial. Means that we didn't get to see a lot of. But I read a lot about I'm. He was thrown out of several pretrial hearings by the judge because he couldn't control himself. That's what I thought was going to happen during the trial. We anticipated that happy because he couldn't control himself. His outward story, pretrial hearings, because he has to be in control, which is what this relationship of all about. So that's what who's? This
what about this and the problem, the problem with the defence when he killed her? He immediately goes to the place and tells us what I did and he tells one story. Then they get the trial and he wants to tell a completely different story and that's the problem they had. He tells the police We are fighting and then she pulled a knife and she has a knife on each put the knife on me, but I am able to get the mice away from her and unable to put it back in its war, but then it but then she puts hitting each is hit I can't take it anymore. There's been years of abuse and she's hitting me in the chest than the arm, so I have to shoot But I am bored my gun eight times honor, you know you're thinking, ok, look here, boxer you're an amateur boxer, you're much bigger than her, and you ve already put the knife in a war that danger gone, but now their trial and the stories changed now the defence, if she did have a night the whole time the heathen disarm it. It was back in the drawer,
had the knife in his life was in danger, but he's already given a statement to the police and but but in self defense attorney is trying to tell the jury don't believe my client he's a liar. That would actually part of what he said. He said he's not a boxer. He said because the prosecuting authorities here the record of twenty five and now he's an undefeated amateur boxer. He could at any time it. She was really beating on hand. You think he would. She was really hurried him. You know he didn't need to shoot her. You with their whole thing, is that he could have easily informed her it and got away from the situation. If that's truly what was happening and then he got up and says what my client would never an amateur boxer, he wasn't twenty five and now he's a liar. He was so a wire about taking a nap away from our putting it in the drawer. So he try to keep saying he is.
He's a liar because they changed their whole story by the time they got to trial dirt within his own, you to channel disputes the notion that it wasn't a boxer. Alas, video forgot to post to day before the murder is one him violently punching and kicking a punching bag. Jennifer Alfonzo never stood a chance. Clearly a requirement yes, I'm trying my case are you prize that he didn't testifies since the whole thing was about him being control? Yes, it because I think you
the two and there was there was a time at the end. I think there was an argument going on because when it was time for the judge to ask if he was quite testify, his attorney said, could I take my client back in the jury room? and talk to him and that when they went out of the core and talk, I think that's where the struggle happened. I think he wanted to testify in his attorney said. You are history, if you testify and they came back again and he then they decided for him not to testify that, and it will be very interesting- and I actually tweeted out this part because of what how his attorney set it to the judge. I told my client he has not testifying actually not how it goes in, and I think he should, I think, with a slip of the tongue insane that because you can't do that. It's it's that defend its complete right to take the decision on his own, with the advice account but it was the way he said at I'm holding. He had not testifying, but I think I think that's exactly how that
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