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Seventy one sword and scale show that reveals that the worst monsters are real more often than not. Whenever we talk about monsters on this program, referring to men, let's face it, but this is an equal opportunity. Podcast. So today we're going to feature two stories of two different women who pointed a gun at someone in their family and pulled the trigger the reasons may be different, but if you're and you're married at the end of

episode. You may look at your wife just a little differently June 24th, two thousand and sixteen proximately four hundred and fifty p dot M Katy Texas a city within a city, the small middle class, suburban area, sits within the greater city of Houston and is home to approximately sixteen thousand residents. On the sixth, block of Remsen hollow lane

There are rows of three hundred thousand dollars. Homes peaceful Friday afternoon is cut short with the sound of gunfire in wondering if police, fire or ambulance hello color has been shot. She attempts to call for help but struggles and cannot speak in the background and altercation is heard hello. Ma'am second call placed at approximately the same time. Captures. A clearer version of the exchange has heard yelling, please don't shoot than a female spy

you can barely make out a man yelling, please don't kill my family. Please don't point that gun at us. Man begs and pleads, female voice, yell something unintelligible I'm. So sorry, I promise you whatever I will and in the phone call cuts off seconds later, third nine one. One call is placed by a concerned neighbor who witnesses first hand as this altercation spills out onto the street.

Ambulance right away. People believe, I believe, shot the line you think they got shot. You yeah fire, There's a lady with a gun, there's a lady with a gun where, yes,. Coming out of the house right now, ok, shut up Where is the lady with the gun I mean I don't get on the freeway now. Is she still shooting I know I shouldn't basically the gun her hands are regular back My house, okay, who do you know who the lady is there, my neighbors home, ok and the people that she saw or do you I like her okay, Are you with the patients right now? No because your lady

okay by performing what is she wearing? What did he wear? I'm sorry, okay, when you're under the this, as of yet unidentified hispanic, neighbor struggles, at the nine one one dispatcher know what's going on as he tries to his family, to safety. Okay. What can you do for me? What, if you, why black hispanic or asian the motion? Okay, okay, what is she wearing he's wearing a dress. What kind of drink? Let me try to pick her window and so ok, ok, no problem, don't put yourself in danger, though, but do you remember what what color her. She's wearing a purple, dress purple dress! Yes, ok, you wanna progress. You she's in there is a long short. What is she.

Where the patient, how long don't if two people laying in the street related learning the three two females? Okay get out and there's a guy trying to help them But the lady sometime on the top of one of 'em, a gun on her hand, okay, but that the from the defense sector, on top of one of the females on the street, the three women up he standing over at one of the patient with the gun here yes, ok, there are two young females lying on this suburban, ST apparently shot Well, another woman stands over them with a gun,

looks like both of my life. What does a cat person with native they? They both alive by the ok, and you know she tried to shouting shoot again on the top of her, but I probably should have done more. Apparently she's don't have anymore bullet ok yeah. I do too so just stay on the line. Let me know what you see, caller sees the woman try to shoot the females on the ground again, but she's out of bullets, the collar instinctively knows exactly what next going the house. Now hopefully not get any more bullets, because it looks like it's going to look for more bullets. Ok, alright, stay on the line

I don't know where that I went but apparently she's his yelling at her and describe the guy. The guy is that you said also they all Caucasians. Ok, man escape suffering the same fate when a neighbor opens her saving his life. Meanwhile, the two females are lying on the street bleeding to death. Another neighbor named Faz PSI Newton will later say, that he hears the man say: don't do this. There are kids, okay and it's all about the two female and the male is caucasian problem and if the mail, again. She coming back again will apparently she had bullets now her over. The caller then sees a murder on a street

you got her again. She thought her get her again. Yes from the back, his training run. She thought she saw the female. Again that was yeah, so it laying down on the floor. I started from the back. Ok stay on the line, you should not get their running down the street. They understand no back up again, but there is another. Like my sister, I don't know, obviously concerned for his family safety scolds, his son in Spanish, telling him to move to a safer location, or what do you think about? Is she doing now. Here's a key ring later on the floor: ok, Thursday, Yeah make sure your family is is secure, don't don't don't let anyone see you looking out the window? Ok can? Can anyone see you the police, and the woman walks out of his frame of view towards them

but I don't see them anymore. Ok, I can hear bullet. I said she's laying down on the floor now the female that was shooting his laying down. Yes, I don't know, I don't know. But for now- but I don't- I don't know what happened because I had to run through the through my son to safety. Ok, the shooter is shot once in the head by police. She falls to the ground and after a few seconds, is dead,

It is more not anymore. Okay, okay, both are you putting down the line? Good grief, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay fan all right back, yes, okay. What do you see now? I did feel. Are the two female still laying in the street, so I can't see them. I have to say, take my son to safety hold on. Second, please: ok, no problem here, if you, if you have to take your family to safety, then don't worry about going Imagine seeing this horror unfold out of your front window. Otherwise normal Friday afternoon. The colours son is crying and obviously traumatized. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. You had to see that see that ok, she's laying down on the floor still not moving

The woman on the ground with the gun is forty. Two year old, Christy Sheats, the two females she shot are her daughters, twenty two Taylor and seventeen year old, Madison Madison is dead. Taylor is airlift. To Memorial, Hermann Hospital where she later dies What could possibly cause a mother to kill her own daughters in broad daylight on the street just outside their home to find out. Police spoke to the man who was also involved in the altercation and the only survivor. His name was Jason sheets. He was the father of the two girls and the husband of the killer. We asked Mister Sheats for a motive in his own words, and why would Christy kill their two daughters

and her motivation for doing such mister sheets summarized the following. He stated that he felt Christy wanted him to suffer during this incident. Christie had ample time and opportunity to shoot and kill mister sheets in the home, but she chose not to Mister Sheet stated Christie knew how much he loved that Taylor in Madison and how much they loved him by killing his children. Mister sheets will have to live the rest of his with this horrible memory. Christy sheets friend, Kathryn Knowles, describes her shock in learning of this incident. This is not Christy that I know it's just not. I thought it was the wrong person it had to be. She describes Christy as a loving and proud mother. When you meet her, you know she's a mom. I was you know what. In the first minute. Clearly, something went wrong I can't imagine anything that

have happened in her life that would have made her snap, your own children. I don't know what could possibly go through someone's head friends. The senselessness of this act is unbearable. I wish there was something I could have done. John Hollis Christy Sheats former employer Add a tattoo removal business in West Houston struggled to describe what she like she had that very sweet southern Alabama. Look, and sound about her, the my patients loves, but when I whenever they weren't here it wasn't always like that. She she was she was. She was different. All went on to explain that he had tried to contact sheets by phone to remove information. She posted on her Linkedin account, which was false regarding her role with the company, and the fact that she said she was working there when she no longer was she had been fired. Alice went on to say I think she was a lady who is going through a very difficult and traumatic

time with whatever was going on at home. Mister sheets also stated that his oldest daughter Taylor, had a verbal argument with Christy on Friday, where Christy wanted to ground her and prevent her from seeing her boyfriend or fiance, because she argued with her mister sheets did not agree with Christy Anne told her that it was inappropriate to ground their twenty two year old daughter and prevent her from seeing her fiance as a result of a verbal argument. Three days after she was gunned down an murdered on the street outside her family home twenty two year old Taylor was to be married. Her boyfriend for years was one Sebastien Lugo. He was from Bogota Colombia on Taylor's Instagram account. You can still see pictures of the happy couple. In one caption Taylor wrote home is wherever I'm with you in another. She wrote. I love you to pieces. One slash three is

almost too unbearably emotional to read. Taylor writes, as of yesterday. I've been blessed with three years of being with the most intelligent caring and loving people in the world, this means three years with the man who is helped me through the toughest times in my life and three years with my best friend, who can make me laugh so hard. I can't breathe oh marks, three years down with the person who I can be happy with just around the house snuggling and watching tv or dressing up and going to a fancy dinner. Lastly, it marked three years with the person. I want to share the rest of my with. Thank you for absolutely everything you do for me and with me you helped transform me into the confident and infinitely happier person I am today.

And I wouldn't trade you for anyone in the whole wide world. I love you infinitely forever and always one instagram picture shows the promise ring. One had bought her a sister Maria would later post this heartbreaking message on Facebook. Y'all were part of my family and that will never change the greatest in laws anyone could ever have and the sweetest most wholesome and caring girls. Life it's always a goal

program to try and answer why horrendous events like this occur? What led up to them could they have been prevented? A deep dive into the personalities involved may render a few clues. We asked Mister Sheats regarding Christies, the health. He stated that Christie was admitted to a private mental health facility for evaluation and treatment on three separate occasions related to attempted suicide. Mister states sheets stated that the length of time and these hospitals, where a few days and he pick Christy up once she was released from the hospital mister Sheet- stated that Christie was suffering from depression and taking numerous prescription medications. He also told us that Christie was seeing a therapist police were

with the sheets home. The sheriff's office revealed that they had responded to fourteen calls to the sheets residence since January, two thousand and twelve somewhere accidental alarm trips, but there were at least separate incidents where Christy sheets had threatened suicide and had to be for psychological counseling Christy sheets Husband, Jason had a rocky relationship it recently separated and gotten back together on the day of the shooting Jason had told his wife. He wanted a divorce neighbor, GINO Hernandez said this about Christy and the girls were always friendly, they'd, always wave when they went past, but Christie kept to herself We were having barbecues on the street. She would never take part. I don't know why they. Separated when they did, but she had only

simply moved back just kind of get the impression with her. It was all about her all the self fees and what have you he was very into herself Christie's Facebook page was full of carefully crafted self fees, but also other posts which made her account seem pretty normal. She love Texas, Keith Urban George, to Bush and God there were also other posts that made her appear to be a loving mother. For example, in September, two thousand and fifteen Christy posted a picture of her two daughters with a caption reading. Daughters day to my two amazing sweet kind, beautiful, intelligent girls. I love and treasure you, both more than you could ever possibly know it's clear, Oh that Christie was going through a hard time in the months leading up to the murder your prior in June. She posted a picture of her father with father's day is almost unbearable for me, without this using man. He was the best part of my life and and uh

so part of my world. I wish I could thank him one more time for everything he did for me me and for the way he protected me and truly cared for me. Most of all for raising me. I love and miss my Papa beyond words. Then, in February She posted this on our Facebook page today would have been my mother's 60th birthday. I would give anything if she were still here and we could have celebrated this. Milestone are very sick, date, together, loving you and missing you mom, happy birthday and Happy Valentine's day in Heaven. Christie was avid social media user to post it often and wasn't shy about sharing her political views online, both her and her husband, Jason

out spoken. Second amendment supporters stations, twitter account which is since been taken down, describes him as a software developer, who believes in God Messiah family and the Constitution Pro Life pro Second Amendment pro Israel, Hash Tag, roll tide, Hash Tag, Reagan, pro hash tag, term limits, Christy appears to have shared this political perspective. On March, first, two thousand sixteen Kristi posted a link to go with a caption reading. It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself and my family were to be taken away, but that's exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi automatic handguns. The irony of this post goes without saying, since her handgun was not used to protect herself and her family, but to exterminate them.

Because Jason sheets survived, he was able to give police an account of what happened, leading up to the attack a couple in arguing after Jason mentioned? He wanted a divorce Christie. Was I raid so much so that she got into an argument with her adult daughter Taylor. He tried to ground tail to try to prevent her from marrying her boyfriend. Taylor's father Jason argued with his wife, explaining that she couldn't ground an adult. Christie's rage, exploded. She fetched a five shot. Thirty eight caliber handgun. Under the couch cushions police would later reveal that Christy had applied for a license to carry a handgun in the weeks leading up to the murder, but perhaps because of her long history of domestic incidents

and recorded references to mental illness and suicide? She had been denied it wouldn't have mattered, though the gun under the couch kush- I belong to her late, great Grand Father and she did license to kill in her own home. Once the stage was set, she called family meeting and almost immediately pulled out the gun, According to a family friend Madison Davie Jason pleaded with his wife telling her. Just shoot yourself easier on. All of us just shoot yourself, but instead of turning their arm on herself or her husband. She pointed it towards her daughters. No, that's not what this is about. This is about punishing you. She said to her husband and, of course, we know what happens next shooting two times. People shot six thousand and eleven Remsen olive

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where they do have shots being fired at this time. Apparently, nine hundred and nineteen shots one of the suspects. I know something that I shot his gun in hand and I nineteen class twenty three Sanford. Is there, my computer did you know, can you give me the addresses of the shooting? In fact, one hundred and twenty three stand for that Claire is six thousand and eleven Rimson Hollow Lane, six thousand and eleven sprint. Hollow lane- came out pages five hundred and twenty four Edwards. Can you spell limbs in for me, Robert Edward Mary, SAM motion, Nora. This other guy shot his wanted s. You have to do so in nineteen thirteen years

video shooters and I think, we're. How do you message stepping out sign paper starting my car started move my car. There are ninety nine Vms advisor wanting to know if the scene secure, creative projects sign. Nineteen Claire see insecure four thousand three hundred and one at the things under control. Ems is out. They don't care. Can I have three people down? What did you buy one clear three people down. For three people down Jason Sheats was so distressed by what he had seen that he had to be administered to the hospital. Even after he's released, you will have to cope with this new paradigm shift in his life, having

in his two daughters murdered at the hands of his wife and then to see her killed by police. There is no doubt that every year on June 24th for the rest of his life, he will be forced to relive this horrible day. You see the day. This happened June 24th was Jason's 45th birthday

We will never know if Christy she's history of mental illness played a role, but we do know better treatment center. Sent this crime from occuring. She was seeing a therapist on multiple medications, yet she still killed her two daughters anyway. If mental illness did not play a role, then Christy sheets could have left at any time, but like in our next story, that's not the decision

she made next- will bring you a story of a woman who took a much more direct route to hurting her husband by killing him it is unusual for women to be violent in a domestic setting or any setting for that matter. It's a well known fact that men commit more crimes than women. This is a constant overtime and across cultures the analogy study published in one thousand nine hundred and ninety five titled sex differences in crime. Do me things an within sex variation have similar causes showed that for every woman two point seven men committed the crime of stealing up to fifty dollars an for. Every woman, three point: seven men still more than fifty dollars in terms of homicide, a study published in nineteen. Ninety five show that

Although women comprise more than half of the you s population, they committed only fourteen point: seven percent of homicides, in contrast to men who killed non, intimate, acquaintances, strangers or victims of undetermined relationship and eighty percent of the cases women usually killed their spouse, an intimate acquaintance or a family member. In sixty percent of the cases men kill for status, women kill for love, it is rare, but it does happen like it did on June 25th. Two thousand, seven in Fort Thomas Kentucky. Don't try to focus on trying to let them I would have done here. Testing so he's trying to grab my arm he's trying to get me to hold on to the gun in my arm would not. If it's not my heart, my arm would not cooperate, it was it was. It was a blimp. He was

I need to get my fingers around it's just I couldn't do it. I could not do it Last thing I wanted to do is not do it and make it even angrier. I couldn't do it an. Not a period and even more. This is forty three year old, Cheryl Mccafferty TEST, find in our two thousand and nine murder trial, the victim or husband. He jumped off of me and start pacing started and just up and down beside the bed, things awaiting the gun and he's waiting to God and he's saying the same thing going on and on and I'm just sitting at my god I mean I don't know why. To try and talk to him. I didn't know whether to I didn't know what that I didn't know what to do, but we thought we feeling at that time help scared to death, obviously but helpless. Just I didn't know what the right thing

to do. It have been the man I've known for twenty seven years, we've been in these situations before never do this severity. But I know how to talk it down and it wasn't happening So I decided I had to do something and I'm- and he was pasted in his back, was turn towards me. I made a run for the door. I ran across the top of the bed, jumped off the top of the bed adult here and our doors here and there's a door here, but he's pacing around this one so that one was an option. So I ran towards I got about as far as the closet can you call me by the back of my t, shirt had on one of his face. T shirts, I had an oversized t shirt. You caught me by the back,

He certainly throw me into our closet. We have a, is it going to the door? We have a big walk in closet here and um and he threw me into the closet an hit. I hit the cabinets we had there. I found ground, I think, with the lights on the clock, lights were on in closet.

He's back on top again and he's in a rage. Now he just it's not happy. I did that, and so he sitting on my side in the closet he's got the the end. Whatever the front part gun is got that just jammed into my temple as hard as you could possibly imagine in my head is just jam so hard into the floor.

Again, just just you're deaf really thought. At that point I was going to die. All I could think of is that my kids are going to find me dead in my closet, Robert Mccafferty was described by friends as charming, fun, loving and great to be around the forty four year old salesman had a twenty four foot sea ray Boat and a putting green in the backyard, but according to Cheryl Mccafferty sister thirty five year old, Joe Provinciano, the Mccafferty's home, had been filled with violence for years. She told the tabloid paper, the Enquirer after her sisters, arrest that no one knew about it. Because quote extremely worried about appearances and his reputation. We've got a gun to my head and then for that you're gonna pay for that you're gonna die. You got Die, if you don't kill yourself and kill your kids and you want to die, and I can't see him

My eyes are open. I could see the guy, but I can't see it space, which was the scariest part, because I didn't I couldn't read him. I couldn't read with internet, yet I like to see what the part God at the corner of my eye, and then I heard a click. I didn't know what it was cuz I didn't see what he did was doomed. It was whatever that thing you, you click before you pull the trigger. They make you maybe all bloody on the floor.

So we're back here. I just waited and I knew I've been shot. I felt it. I felt it My head, I felt the pressure on the back of my head. I smelled the gunpowder. I just remember. My son has those guns? You know that when you fire those it makes sense, really stinky smell. That's all I could think of, and my ears were just ringing. I know I've been shot because I felt the pressure on the back of my head, but I do well with a life because I felt and get off of me I have on here Ali Here- will think I'm dead. He won't bother me anymore,

I did I just laid there and I laid there. The death of my eyes. Catch me opening my eyes. I don't get off of me, but I could feel it was still I couldn't hear 'cause my ears are ringing, but I could just feel his presence around me. I felt in over me yeah. I don't want to open my eyes thinking I don't want to normal life. Can you can over me and but I don't know what he's doing and again, I'm afraid to move. Cheryl Mcafee claimed that she lay there motionless, hoping her husband would think she was dead. I don't know which you can feel when, When you get married to this person for eighteen years had two children with him Perhaps your life with him Cheryl Mccafferty, then claims her husband dragged her out of the closet.

Through around the bed. Sharing me up turn me up. You called me out. I put him back on the bed again, then I am stuck in the bed again I, like a little kid like. I thought it was going to do any good. The back of the headboard shaking so badly and the covers up over me, Mccafferty then described describes what her husband said to her as she mimics his angry voice. You made me, do look what you made me do. This is all your fault you had to tell you had to tell everything was perfect. Look what you made me do is asked by her attorney if she thought she was going to die that night They told me in the closet. I wasn't leaving that room. I was not leaving that room alive, so we stand in there, he's pacing back and forth, and I'm sobbing and I'm begging him. I thought please please, please don't do this,

the kids love you. Please don't do this. I can't love me. If you love me, you would have gotten a divorce. You love me. Yes, Bob! I do love you, the kids love you now you're kind of against me. You will turn everybody is taking that gun and he's pointed towards the kids bedroom. He did that quick thing again, an again yourself or I'll kill the kids. You wanna die for the going around. I walked over to my side of the bed, grab The song my side then came back around his side, where I kind of was I set the phone on the table and talking about his bedside table. Ok set the phone on his side of the table and I just started begging again.

Ok, then, I won't tell anybody. I swear, I don't swear, I swear, I won't get a divorce. I won't tell anybody, we can do this, we can do this crying and sobbing and he hates when I cry he always hated. When I cry I'm just begging him, please I'll do anything I'll make it better. At least please he just chat client. It back handed me on this side of my face and the right side was crying harder. They told me to lay down quit crying and lay down. I lay down. Let's cross check again back toward the headboard. Now look down on me on my back and now I just, I think I think he sat down next to me where we make.

Yeah. But then he was yeah. He was on the bed with his back leaning against the headboard time, I'm laying here and he's leaning against the headboard, I'm still crying and he's just can't plant. I just think I just kind of think the gun to my head and he he he's way down like down under the covers Was his foot hit, my leg and it was just. I got fired what would your kids are a little and they had their role real high fevers and they just they feel like their whole bodies are on fire. Its foot was just so hot and and he leaned him laying on my back.

Scared to death to look at him. So I can only see how the corner of my eye he's, leaning on this arm. I'm assuming he's got the gun in my to my head again here again he did the click thing in the calmest. Voice, which was the most frightening of all he leaned down and whispered. In my ear you know you have to die your choice here, they're going to kill yourself, I'm going to kill the kids and you want to die it's actually

Cheryl Mccafferty waived her right to claim battered wife syndrome or any other mental health deficiency at her murder trial. Instead, Mccafferty's lead defense attorney. Deanna Dennison chose to go with the claim of self defense, Denison likely passed on the battered wife to because it would allow prosecutors to have their own mental health expert, examine Mccafferty, which may not have reflected favorably on the defendant. Anyway, he was capable of It hurt me in the past, nothing ever ever to this extreme allegations against the deceased, Robert Mccafferty began with the men of one instance that allegedly occured in one thousand nine hundred and ninety three. While the couple was vacation thing in Hawaii, Cheryl Mccafferty claimed. Husband, slander into a wall and then forcefully forcefully shaving cream up her nose into her eyes and in temporarily blinding her. She also claimed that two thousand and six. He hit her in the stomach with a fireplace poker, and tried to drown her in a toilet bowl

Two thousand and seven he allegedly attempt suffocate his wife with a pillow Robert Mccafferty Is of course, no longer around to dispute any of these claims. Are there any third Emmy for a really long time? Insane, I didn't say anything. I was afraid to make a man eventually made all the way down grab hold of my shirt. I was on my back he's facing me: got a hole in my shirt and went for his farm was here when he laid. He had the gun in my side all I knew what I had a gun in my side. Hold on my shirt. You know that options when getting up. I'm talking my way out of it at this point Cheryl

He says she just closed her eyes and didn't move for the rest of the night. Eventually, her husband fell asleep forever, absolutely eternity. She claims. She felt him twitch as if he was falling asleep. At this She could see light out and heard the sprinkler system kick on at around six hundred. Am she prayed that it would not wake him at that point? Is she considered all her options? There was a door in the mass bedroom leading to a balcony. She can make a run for it, but, according to her testimony, she didn't know if Robert had set the alarm which would go off once she. The door? She also didn't want to leave him with the gun after he had logically threatened to take the lives of the children. So she says she made a decision not to leave the house without the gun and without the kids she would need the gun. First huge fight with our daughter that sometimes she locks her bedroom when she's scared,

I don't know for door would be locked, identify, be linked to get into get her, and once I did get hurt, then I'd have to be able to get to Patrick and once I got to Patrick, then we got the same problem by the time I get to the door. We open the door for US so I'm just a plain, a possible scenario over in my mind, for what seemed like forever. When I finally came up with it, I get the gun. I can't do anything until I get that done, but if anything, pretty sound, Cheryl also states that they had two dogs which were pretty predictable, but they had just gotten a puppy a week. Prior, the puppy was in a crate at the foot of the bed hockey star me getting out of debt, which is really was gonna do so I didn't wanna get up

I wanted to try and roll over get up so that dogs didn't actually realize. I was up and it's time to get up and go out and do their business and have breakfast so she then slowly carefully started to reach for the gun are over over over. I mean we're talking I don't even know how long, but it seems like forever. I can't wake up can't do anything. It's going to wake up she claims under the sheets. She could not see where the gun was that hands on the gun. I don't know if I'm not making. When I touched the gun she claimed she stared at him, making sure he didn't move and didn't notice her reaching for the gun aim it I didn't plan it I didn't think about it. I only knew is I had to stop him. I didn't think

Where should I aim? It was that quick? It was attorney jack. Argued in court that there was evidence showing Robert was asleep when he was shot with a thirty eight caliber colt special. The gun was found wrapped in a fleece pullover in the couple's bed live rounds. Three empty rounds were in the chambers when police recovered it Robert, a single gunshot wound to the head. When police got to the residence Cheryl Mccafferty was Leslie walking outside the home, with a blanket around herself speaking to a dispatcher on the phone. She was hysterical, police instructed her to drop the blanket and phone and keep her hands within Clearview and she complied before falling, ground, where she curled up into a fetal position and began sobbing. The children were still in their beds for Thomas Police officer, Chris GOSH Horn,

instructed fifteen year old, Molly and twelve year old, Patrick to remain in their beds until police finished searching the home. When police discovered the body they escorted, the children outside both children began to cry, as they approached their mother sitting at the end of their driveway. They hugged their mother and she explained to them what had happened? Your dad tried to kill me and I shot him said. Cheryl This exchange would later be used in court by the defense as an example of how police had mishandled evidence in the case, since both Cheryl and her children would later test positive for gunshot residue forensic evidence which was probably transferred while she was hugging them. Robert Mccafferty, the victim, also tested positive for the presence of gunshot residue, which defense attorney said supported, show Mccaffrey's claim that he had fired a gun close to her head during a struggle about an hour or two before his fatal shooting. This isn't

only example of police mishandling or Thomas EMT crews moved Robert Mccafferty's arms, an removed, his t shirt before all, but the first six crime scene photos were taken and before any measurements were taken at the crime scene. The reason given for this was that they were trying to ensure that Robert Mccaffrey was dead, but Detective Raymond Mets, said that at that point, investigators were certain. Mccafferty was already dead from the single gunshot wound to the head in the bedroom. Is also a large knife. Kentucky state police, forensic examiner Fred Crane testified that everyone in the family's prints were on the knife, including both adolescent children, but the prosecutors said that the location of Cheryl, Mccafferty's prince, suggested she could have held the weapon in a threatening manner. Just before? Shooting her husband

during the trial prosecutor said that in the months before she shot her husband to death, Cheryl Mccafferty developed an interest in another high profile, local murder case. It was that of the two thousand and six slaying of Bob Bosley was wife, accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to twenty years in prison. Prosecutors also tried to pay a marriage troubled by money problems. They said that Cheryl Mccafferty had become obsessed with her daughter, becoming a model and had run up nearly one thousand dollars in credit card debt in two thousand and six and two thousand and seven which had strained their marriage, but defense attorneys argued Mccafferty. The charges to pay for clothing and school related activities for the couples to adolescent

rather than luxury items for herself, and that Robert Mccafferty had expressed pride in his daughter's interest in modeling Cheryl's defense attorneys told the jury in their opening statement. That money could not have been an issue because it would have been list for Cheryl to kill Robert who was making three hundred thousand dollars a year. When all was said

I'm done, there was no conclusive proof that Robert Mccafferty was abusive. Just one family now divided and polarized, hurling accusations at each other. After two weeks of testimony and about three hours of deliberation, jurors found Cheryl Mccafferty guilty of first degree manslaughter in the fatal shooting of her husband, the following day March. Tenth, two thousand and nine prosecutors cut a deal with Cheryl Mccafferty before the jury could weigh in on the sentence they agreed to eighteen years. With the caveat, this deal would cut the time that Mccafferty had to serve before being eligible for parole from eighty five percent to twenty percent of the sentence with credit

for time. Served. Mccafferty would now be eligible for parole in early two thousand and eleven in her two parole hearings. She was denied, but in a stunning turn of events, outgoing Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear pardoned her in two thousand and fifteen Cheryl Mckay is now free, after serving just under nine years, for killing a human being. A study published in twenty twelve by assistant Professor Sonia, be star at the University of Michigan. Law school found that men received sentences that are sixty three percent higher on average than their female counterparts. Perhaps it's human bias, or perhaps it's the type of crime, but the different sexes commit more often men kill for status. Women kill for love, but ask yourself this: when you really think about it, is it more evil to kill a stranger? Would it kill your spouse.

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