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frank. I came across your videos while doing night you two binging rip. You Who recommended you to me? I don't know I got there, but somehow, on the rabbit trail, you were watching Alex Jones. I like watching your Molitor soon. I think it's because I walked too many of the people getting owned videos and then you became like you're. Like the christian Apologists Frank, turret rocks college, atheist so's, you, answer question very politely, but like that it's presented as like good kids heads gonna get ripped off, but I the IRA you logo. I always liked your logo can cry examined and across the board crosses like really hard core like rap core, and then as an example, it is like like a sword, did it not a single drop of blood. The blood. That's so I know you without having a theme. Song gets very heavy metal super brat rather core and we're thinking. So

I wrote you a cross examined hard core song, go with your logo. If you want to use it, would you like to hear it can't. Can we hear right now, I think so dancing play very right now bring it can wreck apologetical assess jobs

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I guess you re the end Oh my god, it's a little bit too beyond, say like for me. I'm sure this. The equivalent of you go up to like an artist you like, and I can hear some fanart that I drew you go up to a band. You like. I wrote this song for you guys. What do you think it's a joke? I kept trying to pitch like a hardcore cross examined and Photoshop you in, like, like static just all tattoos you doing habit or about apologetically colleague, Kyle knew about it as much as have to like turn a convincing on stuff. You know about. So the opportunities in their having you wanted fulfil my dream of doing my cross examined rap course on you that it area any those lyrics it's that bet, that's a lie. Talent. You got right. There either, actually love who see the lyrics sheet for that, because I think I got like for the words down, but it disappears.

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your honor. I swear you interaction and was then made a length Emmy semi semi. The lyrics now only want to read all Blair examined awake, a music video will will have it by the time this airs there'll be visuals. So I put all the words on there. How much time are you on? The head is too that this morning, in my car I didn't want to do in the office. So I have parked in a parking lot in the middle of nowhere and did all that in my car car and little my laptop right. Well, Frank turbo, here to talk to you. And so where do we start? after that, is so That's it we're. Where do you go from there? You just think we'd go anywhere man than I think you have all the arguments. If air you got the Caroline liking said it's all in their home. Do we write them right as great cocoa got gotta. My case, for I said: kilometers yea pronounced IRAN first time. Farmers

if you pronounce arrayed correctly on our greatest off about he asked you? How did you come to that conclusion? What did he ask you if you in Colombo- and we said it, is africa- forget how we see today, ninety nine and then he got nice column in and he got on me and then I sank in Mercer. I said Caleb GAD rhyming, with burning your brain like a witch Salem, it enables brains with your fat. It's the ambassador approach that that song right there at the ambassador approach burning near brain like a wicked Salem, is out. There was always a perfect. So what stupid question. You ever been asked that one, I know that this is question you ever asked who, as it was, would you want to hear my song you under my zone around that's a serious library answer is clear: the sense of humour, sir. That's all

We want to know who wins in a fight, fistfight weapons. Optional, seeing give them weapons of you want her making work there logic into it in entering so in You write verses mice. Neither Ditka! Neither may just stand there. Why didn't you guys are too young for data and I was like Butkus or something that's got it beaten both like like, like could Liquors Farley Sketch I see, I guess it's in January and you too young Gaza, who would win a hurricane or God What One of the main Americain was Dick because our God, your question in decades ago, I am familiar versus Thyssen. Yeah. That's a good one. Thyssen's been actually in the ring lately. Have you noticed heavy

the ice was just on the news yesterday, maybe assault on the Babylon Bee, but somewhere he would. It was punch people like he was twenty one years old idea of anti right an edge year because He writes a little bit smarter. I think he can. We can move around and eager to get it. It tight and with the resurrection, which is where these famous for resurrect human rights proclaimed. That's, it will do so. What are does anywhere down here, like the anglican robes. He could probably hide some yet weapons and you like poor guy books and their like night crawler, the robe. What kind of morph like the night crawler I think that the road is like the blue smoke have on this. One cs. Louis verses, always. Just outlined in the eyes of him? Did you sit on?

draw, but but but but Louis can stick and move. He can stick in more and we learned he learned from Chesterton gestures and taught him everything. He knows what, then, how come? This was a protestant. Yesterday was a Catholic. We all have our issues, Louis. With any day in at one right more clearly than chastity commodity. Gotta, admit that that's true, but, it is always good Are we understood how we think we It has many times we registered an essay and Kyle's first thing. He says after redundancies, what drug was he on when he wrote that we we meet and we re Chesterton and yeah? We rate every essay on at one to ten, based on how high we think Chesterton was

particularly at least double the new both any newsboys line up you want from you know the Ojo soon on. Leave my body and die? I'm I'm doing the case for these strabo here he would do. We definitely need to be cast released, rule You should write to him, I mean is that ITALY is the man I mean this is this? Is in the modern era, this book I got right there. That is, if you ve ever that now the case of Christ. Now that I just in case you read the panel really good apologetic spooky should check out and I'm impress it. You work this book into that song reading array now actually because in of a recommendation from one year. Videos I'm currently reading. Is God immoral monster? What do you think

is a monster? What also I love that because a lot of those books I failed to get really general. Like in that book? He goes very specific guts verse by verse, and Yeah we talked about the old testament law. And how it's kind of a tree international law like it's nice, was to be like laws are meant for eternity. Eternity leaner. There aren't good kind of thing. It's like in that Turning to the nearest in culture, you take those laws and you look good, compare him to that time. And you see the mass improvement there actually, whereupon upon the a or barbaric laws of other cultures anyway? I like it higher commended differently, although all of artist stuff in the old testament. And its prime Unita. Cocaine on you show you know, he's meeting of minds: ok, ISA, he will call you to death. He will punish you, ll have a good punk

he's the man so often actuating, we gotta have cope and his great would lead them. He should happen in our fight list. How about that? I am going next to Eric Metaxas. Versus re comfort. Little ass, a girdle I know about those eyes did I think they would Both our talk, one another very rapid fire. They will say what they would never get to decide that we just talk about it later. We divisions and we use thinking featherweight, but Eric would have a few more jokes than re, although there both sunny, but you rate, convert Eric too, like any in two to punch. In the face religion or something these really get converting people the EU is putting your face self in the face and your heart than I do that they do not themselves what are you re would be more succinct and Eric. He is Eric Rights books that are like they take you. You know five.

To read but here I got here. He ran a re comfort, biography. Where he died at the end array, sulphur comfort, biography things out some thirty down under. How bout a attack team one we ve got Chuck Norris increase Pratt on one side, and we Mr Tee and TIM Debo on your side, so Norris and pay. Versus Mister T intend TIM going to empty but would have to apologize for it and anybody. So I would have to go to the other side when you. In their battle on be Headline Kyle that you didn't empty BO, Poligized, Marsili, second based or something I only knows he's like the christian football player awaited player, baseball player.

Now and then everyone gets pegged, we gets paid by a pitch and is he runs the charges, the Mount to offer instant forgiveness? That's it. That's it s either, go to the other side, because TIM Tim is not going to fight without apologize and so did doesn't really win in the end Mr Wynn? beg our poligized to the separate head he's holding up Why has regained its thinking like we need, is a philosophical like what is winning really mean? True, I've read in the past to be first, I get it where you're going to have something William? Craig versus call me. The computer nets obscured didn't cartoon. William land. Craig loses two. No man or no computer he's kite. Zack as he's a little machine like himself.

Debate Higgins and he was very up next, a hitch in these very robotic, not an meanwhile, but he's he's just so You know he doesn't think excellent. I think he's got a script in centuries ago in this amazing the anti regions make You feel robotic situations, just so through with his rhetoric, and he was fond of listened to. In fact, the first they better debate ever had with was always with agents. I just love listening to him when he was debating, may like this guy course. The arguments in fact, there's a difference. If you watch hitching debate, you're gonna go, I like it and if you read the transcript of agents, you're gonna go What's he talking about you're, not even in the ball park, I mean he started our debate. Does God exists

forget about mother Teresa, I'm gone. What does this have to do with what an I got exists, so it's it's the difference between rhetoric and logic and he's great rhetoric, but not so good. A logic was Hey Kyle and even hold that thought. We ve got some to say: that's right. Our plan cast this week is being sponsored by faithful counselling, sometimes things can get a little overwhelming, even though you know gods there for you, you need to talk to somebody so we talk to deprive environment I'll talk to you about depression, stress, anxiety, relationships, family, complex, even crisis of faith issues. They do this entirely online. You can talk to people me a text, video chat phone call and though, that this person shares your christian worldview and its a bit concern for people to go and get counselling, NATO I heretics teaching you are. Counselling you you don't those darn atheists, counselling, you so

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they are you younger than him seed, when we have the answer mine, there is a minor he's, got all its own balding and stuff the attorney Harrison, and so we can really analyze the act as we estimate personalized unless mahars then in How old are you thirty three, Don't let them think about it. Nine thirty nine May guys, don't look it. We was older, you yours too, all right: let's get this oil apologetic, sir. I think so peapod. Some people are wondering during this pandemic. How I got this conniston happen. Well, why do we have diseases where I have cancer. Cancer is a good one and globally and you probably entered the cancer question- so natural disasters the scenes see. Look is not a single person now, maybe in this Somebody

this devouring bats like a madman and that's what happened and they are at fault. But the. Similarly there are disasters that kill of people that there's nobody. You can point the finger at We dive into that in a star wars pre as exist yeah, so There's nobody glaringly God, whereas God I realise question, but a good question goulash, neither thanks If, God, why evil is the question was sometimes. In fact I had that question at the university of always, admittedly state university. I do in the area have been to be an atheist presentation and there was an eight you sit sit in stone, faced and that's the whole point. Innovation for the whole, like our now have two hours he stone face it. Crack, a smile once nice and pretty good jokes in there So I knew this. Guy was gonna, be pretty aggressive during the queue and Asia. As soon as I asked for questions, I say there any questions and he raised his hand. I said yes, sir, he said

there is a good god. Why doesn't stop all the evil in the world and I said, Sir, that's an excellent question, maybe because if we did, he might start with you For me, because we do evil every day whenever we talk about evil were always talking to beef, as if God, why don't you stop that evil over there are one or two sub that person over there. We never think of us because we do evil every day you ve got a lot to stop all the evil in the world he could, but he beam start with you and may in fact, armies offering great cocoa puts it. This way said if decided to stop evil at midnight tonight? Would you still be alive at twelve, or one my answer is: I wouldn't be yeah, none of us may God allows evil, because the allows free will and if the allows free will he s to open up the possibility for evil he gives us free will soon we can love, but evil does this proved God, because there would be

no such thing as evil unless there was good and there can be no such thing as good unless got existed because he's what we mean by the standard of good, so evil doesn't this. Prove God it may prove, there's a devil, but it doesn't disprove God, because it wouldn't be. No evil was unless good existed in good, wouldn't exist unless God existed, so she is, Who is to be Chesterton in a debate every time said the shadows prove the sunshine right. You can have shadow or you can have sunshine without shadows, you can have good without evil. Shadows. Without sunshine, you can have evil without good night. It's useless. I just stole that from a switch foot, song so giddy and they still from education. Certain suggest Chesterton said when a chance? We send like one of Chesterton famous ones, was what's wrong. With the world. I am. I am I right now, my daddy, these same specifically,

These are the same more or like yadda, evil of a guy. Of me or of any human? But when the evil of disease or right, new cancer or a hurricane, a shark, a shark NATO. Why don't you go actual emails and of course the Christian World View says that aid all. Trace back to our choice in Adam. That will only fair that ok. So if had fallen at the women. We have now those problems, where we wouldn't be dying. That's for sure. I think think about Jesus though he does. He does miracles, four categories so I sinless that's miraculous. Secondly, he hears the sick, he overcomes nature coms nature and he raises the dead. If you think about Those are the four things we therefore problems. We have as human beings more, we're we're sinful. We get sick nature.

Can hurt us and we die, and so oh Jesus is doing by doing miracles in those four categories. Is he saying on the Messiah the Saviour. I can Neil all of those problems, those four categories of problems you have and they Ultimately, they are ultimately go back to this, the sin of Adam and the systematic, and even of course we followed. We would have done any better Benny better than Adam and Eve either. So that's death for the fall. World comes from. So, murder hornets their results. Of the four probably No, it's not that actually wrong with a murder horn. It it's only it was only bad when it stings you in the I'm all right, there's nothing metaphysically bad about a murder, murder, Hornet for even a real democracy, that's a good one through in we gonna pull. Quote me: I'm keep there's nothing most.

Nothing metaphysic metaphysically bad about a murder on it is got a moral month having a good way to work. Murder, hornets internet, as did work, ok. Well, then, how this one we stumped Gregg Cocoa! This one what about rabbit, poop, wider rabbits ether and poop, This argument is no value in there. I have you heard this argument before now. But it is an atheist, remembering the real debate, one time talking about how we are. We hold the new nature, was clear by God. Therefore, it should be perfect, at least at its base level, and the rabbits they have to either poop. They have two points and then poop again so its prey, the God messed up completely So what do you think of that it is a crappy argument, actually really true you're willing,

But why is it, then? That is something that keeps you nutritional value we arrive. Smearingly I'd thinks it's funny that rapidly there in poor, because, like eight with several of the sun S right now, but look, If, if creatures did not eat dong or dung, didn't turn into dirt, we'd be overrun with it. So there's some very obviously there is theirs value in, and insects eating stuff like that he did healthcare Ecosystem gone, we don't know everything. Gonna be sure. I've speak for yourself, FIFA. So what would it take? much faith? Would it take for you to become an atheist like flying spaghetti? monster appears in front of you there. Perhaps it is I'm real. Would you follow your knees and believe or not will include even in those lie the spaghetti monster,

as usual, these God we believe in him. Yet I believe you this This shows you the actual silly There's somebody atheists arguments. You know how they say stuff like well, you don't believe in the flying. Spaghetti monster, you don't believe in raw Zeus and the. And we go yeah. We don't believe in those beings because there's no evidence they exist and when talking about beans inside the universe like the flying, spaghetti monsters, Asia, Thor we're talking about the bean that created the entire universe and transcends it. Their total into two did totally different categories, and this is Dawkins and others get it all wrong when they say I'm just another eight year, I'm just an atheist harry, I'm an atheist goes one God more than you ever hear, ruling out the God who who created everything, including you zoom, They can create you even if it exists. When they say I don't believe it Spinelli monster, but then neighbour

say they believe in Multi meares, verse theory, which means they actually do believe in a flanks beginning monster in one of those universes, there's gotta be one. Was it? What is it you guys Babylon be that said, atheists believes in every universe, except the biblical on was area. Thousands for that article five You cited both of our first article, Didier Research job. I know it's, u verse, and followed you guys. Long term is great because three humor, you guys, can get the point across in fun way where people they want might not read an article or blogger. You can watch video, but though they look at a headline and go. I got it, important work, you're doing and it's fun That's a nice way to describe as telling jokes on the internet at the brink, and we appreciate that. Finally, you try

somewhere subscriber question. You gave the first. A travel agent is very important in the subscriber portion. The only thing we do is we. We didn't write any real question. Why did figure? How we get him go and how we can go on because he's really upset here when we mentioned bad atheist arguments, Lanka do more These are like the flying spaghetti monster and where we need asking to calm down frank, Kyler? fired up over these two arguments used argument. I mean you're going to do. I'm gonna, Google, haven't you time, atheist argues So you and all your knowledge. Of all the religions in the world. You pick Christianity, discuss you. So happened be born in America and you think you're right, Even though there's all these, I you didn't did you go to all those churches and spend at least a year practicing every other religion before we came this conclusion now:

to do that, we have to do it you're out of bees and true and of bees in true you're down to just a few choices? what the duty- Judaism, Christianity and Islam by the big ones- morality, no other polytheists. You know that where'd, you get me, don't you get it all the trouble with the Mormons too my everybody's got Mormonism thrash out How can we make it can't believe, I'm playing the college student character, I'm not sure me. Oh you're, not you, ok, well now you don't have to you just gotta figure out. If this is true, then he's gotta figure out which Theism Jesus my dad christian thieves and strove you didn't rice, and that is not true. It's easy! For how long did you spend practicing is before you cited. It was wrong for you the scene, you don t they knew before he knew now.

In line with reality. I gotta get exerting sailoring. Has it occurred to you all right? How many bodies in the bosom- and you have before you knew More- was right now it's not you know a lot of time. People ask me what your testimony go. It doesn't matter my testing Doesn't matter Peterson Simone matters, paused testimony matters, people who were there that matters, but my testimony doesn't matter, may be interesting, but it may not, but it doesn't matter what matters is the evidence and here So I see I see Christians doing this. All the time. Tell me your testimony as if your testimony is gonna, be the thing that means Christianity's. True. What Mormons give testimonies. Isn't Muslims give testimonies scientologist, give testimonies that does Tell you whether or not it's true, the very thing

different us differentiates us from every every other world. Religion is evidence and we never use it. Why? Why would we not use it to EU summit? strongest evidence for specifically new testament Christianity, like the strongest physical evidence for all that new testament Christianity while the resurrection two key. If the resurrection happened, everything else falls into place ACT, the evidence through to show that the new testament writers, who telling the truth are just give up one line of evidence. All begins with a letter e like embarrassing testimony right, you don't. Make stuff up. It makes you look bad, you might lie to make yourselves look good, but you won't like make yourself look bad. We think about how embarrassing that decide. Was made themselves, look or how bad they made themselves. Look I mean Jesus calls Peter their leader Satan, really made that up to Morrow said a b

I want to make this a real, interesting story under the law. Lord call, you Satan, you know anything Peter what it said: Adam Caucasus nor can the leader here. This doesn't look Peter says I never do now you. What does he want to do any denies them three times and then all the disciples at the crucifixion run away, I mean it's like many python movie, Braun aware they all run away and who are the brave ones, No women who are the brain ones known what man is going to say that he was hiding for fear the Jews, why the women went down discovered the empty to know me I'm going to say that we want If we are making it up, we wouldn't say that. Would we It may be believable. In my case. My wife's pretty from our wiser, pretty hard core John kept saying that he beat Peter to the tomb, though He was very, very specific that he beat Peter and if it rested Tombs- and maybe you may data,

that little I'm sorry, I write What embarrassing testimony would do. We would never. It would never be put in their if it hadn't really occurred one lady came up to me once and said. I know why Jesus appeared to the women first and I said why she said because he wanted to get the story out said. You know that an excellent point. Iron bar that before because ladies we'll talk and men while you know by and then think but this in Matthew, twenty verse, nineteen. Well, that's a great commission inverse seventeen while Jesus given them the great commission. He stand in there all his disciples Army forum where he says go. Therefore make disciples of all nations it says right there emerged seventeen of his disciples. It says some believed Some doubt it stand and right in front of them and their say, and they doubted that it was him income that make that it's not a maid?

story, a medical they all are many of them died for it there not making that up either they're not going to their deaths, and it really. Happened when they go to save themselves. By saying it never happened. And to have views in this. Century who think their gods chosen people to enjoy. A resurrected Jesus who claimed to be God when they thought claiming to be God was blasphemy and they didn't believe in a resurrection until the end of time to make this whole story up and NGO go die, for it makes absolutely no sense. These people were there, they sought, they die for it after being horribly abused, now they're telling the truth they wouldn't happen. And today I would like to put it this way: the new testament or the rest, action did not I'd like to put it one way that I can remember it's israeli tat. You trust me

The new testament writers did not create the resurrection. The resurrection created, the new testament writers right because Chris Christianity began with event? I didn't begin with a book. Minarets since the Christians, before the new testament was ever written. Why? Because they were MR resurrected Jesus. That's why John wrote John Paul wrote Romans in and mark Mark is because they witnessed the resurrected Jesus. It wasn't because They read about it in a book, they were there, that's why they wrote the books, there's no evidence. One is king, God make the rock you know the actor the rock. Can God make him? So big money can lift him You know it's a good, that's it! That's a good question I like to ask how big is the rock, how big the rocky them eyes, and these are we in real life,

in this scenario. Is Serbia easy? He so big, I can pick him up, so you would have to be like infinitely big the bear right. There there are now we ve we ve gone into a category mistake. You can't have an infinitely big finite rock, no matter how big rock is king fine, I can guide choose to make some things, big. You can pick it up, but he could go back and we wanted to cause he's still powerful no be Rocky can make he came last because any get bakers, fine. I became an infinite finite raw. It's like that's just stupid the spur circle determining awesome, tattoos now negative, never got it too. To see the big leg cross, examined the tribal tat in Europe. I sure ban. You said I swear it,

don't habitat through and I dont have a heavy metal theme song, but I do now do now well we will take this the subscriber portion arena. We read some questions from subscribers right because we're in Yeah, let's do it times can run out of here. Farrago will seriously I am ready.

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