This is the Babylon Bee Weekly News Podcast for the week of 9/25/2020.
In this episode of The Babylon Bee Podcast, Kyle and Ethan talk about the week’s biggest stories like the NBA’s heartwarming tribute to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Donald Trump ordering all the nation’s schools to show the movie ‘Top Gun’ daily instead of 1619 Project materials, and how 95% of evangelicals don’t believe in God, the Bible, or Jesus. Kyle and Ethan also talk to demon and ghost investigator Billy Hallowell about demon possessions, infestations, and what happens when you use that Ouija board.
Billy Hallowell’s new book is available now: Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts.
This episode is brought to you by Faithful Counseling. Go to faithfulcounseling.com/babylonbee for 10% off your first month.
Introduction
Kyle got kicked off Twitter for being a bot apparently and the guys and report live from Moscow.
Stuff That’s Good
Kyle likes the Dune audiobook
Ethan likes Scythian (the band).
Weird News
- Trump or Biden? Peruvian shamans try to predict U.S. election winner
- Belgian city finds its former mayor's heart in a fountain
- D.C. police wanted to use a HEAT RAY on protesters! (NTB)
- German soccer team loses 37-0 after social distancing on the field (NTB)
- Watch: Man spotted wearing live snake as a mask on city bus
Stories of the Week
Story 1: NBA Players Wear Special Lace Collars To Honor Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Summary: NBA players are honoring the life of Ruth Bader Ginsburg this week by wearing pretty lace collars just like Notorious RBG used to wear
- Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died September 18, 2020, at the age of 87, from complications of metastatic pancreatic cancer
- She became known as a leftist icon and dubbed The Notorious RBG by a law student (like the rapper The Notorious B.I.G.)
- Bill Clinton nominated her to SCOTUS 1993 (Bill was elected with 43% of popular vote in 1992)
- She became known as a liberal wing of the court and argued for gender equality and women’s “rights”
- Her death is right up on the election, leftist celebrities and media types like Reza Azlan are doubling down on threatening to burn everything down to the ground if the Republicans “ram” through a judge
- Romney said he would not block the vote and would vote based on the merits of the nominee, and that Trump as President can constitutionally nominate and the Senate can give advice and consent. This comes amid calls of hypocrisy since in 2016 the Republican led Senate blocked a vote on Merrick Garland nominated by Barack Obama.
- Trump has promised to nominate a woman. Because that’s important for some reason.
- Lefty types on Twitter seem to think this article was real. Really.
Story 2
Trump Orders Schools To Replace Anti-American Curriculum With Daily Viewings Of 'Top Gun'
Summary: In what many are calling the most popular Executive Order of all time, President Trump has ordered public schools to stop teaching anti-American history classes, replacing them all with daily viewings of Top Gun.
- Trump issued an executive order to stop federal agencies from using Critical Race Theory in their training materials and two weeks later says he will issue an Executive Order to fight critical race theory and 1619 project style curriculum in local schools across the nation
- Trump Launches 'Patriotic Education’ Commission, Calls 1619 Project 'Ideological Poison’
- Trump’s executive order was met with fierce backlash from commentators, who recognized it as authoritarian; New York Times opinion columnist Farhad Manjoo tweeted, “Kim Jong Un wasn’t writing him love letters, it was an instructional manual.”
- Culturally, this is one of the more important things Trump has done
Story 3
Survey Finds 95% Of Evangelicals Don't Believe In God, Bible, Jesus
Summary: A new study has found that 95% of evangelicals don’t believe in God, the Bible, or Jesus.
- Ligonier released their annual ‘State Of Theology” polling data and it’s not looking good:
- What do Americans believe about God, salvation, ethics, and the Bible? Ligonier Ministries and LifeWay Research partnered to find out.
- 51% of US adults and 32% of evangelicals say “Jesus was a good teacher, but was not God”
- 63% US Adults/46% of evangelicals believe God accepts the worship of all religions
- 55%U.S. Adults/56% of evangelicals believe “Jesus is the first and greatest being created by God”
- 59% US adults/51% evangelicals agree with “The Holy Spirit is a force, but not a personal being.”
- 46% evangelicals agree with “Worshiping alone or with one’s family is a valid replacement for regularly attending church.
- 31% evangelicals agree with, “Churches must provide entertaining worship services if they want to be effective.”
- 24% evangelicals agree with, “Gender identity is a matter of choice.”
- 18% evangelicals agree with, “The Bible’s condemnation of homosexual behavior doesn’t apply today.”
Topic of the Week: Billy Hallowell’s Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts
- The world — and the church — sometimes tends to avoid or ignore the topic of demons and spiritual warfare
- The issue of source credibility
- Documented cases
- Things Hollywoods gets wrong
- Christians- how to respond to demons
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junior high. They start having that, like
We consider these ideas and discern between which ones are true.
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sixty three percent in the? U S, adults, forty six percent evangelicals Bleed- got accepts the worship of all religions.
She accepts it though there. What do you do then he's like? I think you accepted
and then he slammed doings it into the fiery trash can of garbage,
fifty five percent EU as adults, fifty
experts, Centipede Angelos, believe Jesus is the first in greatest
being created by God, the believe Jesus was created, which is not true, Ethan yeah, that's it.
So confusing, though one of my vote were yeah, Jesus is eternal, is not created, people
Fifty nine percent of adults. Fifty one percent of EU angelically agree with the Holy Spirit is a force, but not a personal being. That's also heresy, suggesting a force
he's he's like so their thing like star wars. Exactly is the force, therefore, their capital f
was sure if you ever listen, unlike sermons on how the Holy Spirit or even the way that our songs talk about it,
Holy Spirit. You will go here
that's our silly welcome Vertigo, locking like the uncle, come, feel this place and fill the atmosphere when he's just
this buzzing electric, like blue cloud, half iliescu,
psych. Why are you inviting the Holy Spirit here?
he's already, and that is where the hell they act like that we tabled has always been like this timid, puppy, ear, timid
wild animal is limited role of milk, can you put it out? Come up here treading a squirrel grey squirrel to come up to you? Can they like stay like ten feet away? I have I have
riches of squirrel them in my hands. You'd kill for this.
He won't come near me, that's the Holy Spirit. We ve got a song. We got some
that's an worse, for you cannot come here
the commission always peer boy. Come here.
Now is the time. That's not actually what we think about the horseman. Satire alert
Forty six percent revenge locals agree with worshipping alone or with one's family is about replacement for regularly tending church so hook.
So half of it half of Christians are like church there,
yeah.
Almost a third of evangelicals agree with churches,
us provide entertaining worship services if they want to be effective with the
not entertaining lame.
Yes, you, no one is really kind of a weird malaria is like a survey questions. I see how people could be like a little thrown offer.
If you're saying I think that is a more effective way to get to
into the church. I can only mean even I could agree with that doesn't mean, I think it's the right thing to do necessarily are what does it mean to be entertaining you?
I would say I disagreed like
good sermon like I see how regulating earthen yeah strew like unless
creatures going well,
on every body. We will open the word of God to day to Romans chapter nine again,
with what we have learned glare,
may remember, as was buzzer things alone? Welcome to my church. I smoked way too much he's telling the dangers of MIKE being addicted to Calvinism
A dummy awesome indeed did Calvinism. When I was fourteen, I will never leave you and worship. I have a home in my throat who would figure. What's a good worship zone, o Lord you're beautiful Rio is a thousand o Lord. I don't also. You are my prayers,
just then a markedly then go getting worse beside? What are you doing now?
ass from the real and re you like forty years in view of our more who is it,
dared dialogue. Is there to you now I want you in return.
And if a pastor that has a throat removed, we would
who at Chernobyl we went to church.
Throat or through an old people. We went to church that had like fish,
seeing people and they didn't really have a worse pleaded. It has had. The sky was like seven genius would go to the front with this hymn book in her, like that, any
basically just shouted all the him slightly,
because he s doing it all o Lord MAR. We also want you know. Yes, the passion
Yeah here is really passionate, and now I like that, I prefer that
do we read all these twenty four percent? Forty four percent of Vienna evangelicals agree with,
gender identity. As a matter of choice,.
It's getting smaller the numbers. That's a weird
sounds like Christians are more educated on the culture war than theology
They know the right culture worsening to say, adding undeserved, that's true
Santa yet negative. Ok, eventually, either
and coals agree with the Bible,
nation of homosexual behaviour doesn't apply today for the smaller number eighteen percent.
I do wonder the selection of evangelical like yeah,
It's probably aren't all church ya mean
does have them, so they luxuriant believe that's gotta Archer
just weird. It's weird, the mass of people who call themselves a christian Evangelical yet, but they don't do anything little go to church and I see a lot of that economic or shit. I'm eventually what makes you that we're gonna Jesus Babo had
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Babylon. Be interview. Show I'm Kyle underneath it again, and we are talking to the nations foremost Demon Hunter Billy Hollow. Will
I wish that were true. I wish that were true. You,
much like right now, Mr Brothers, from supernaturally drive around in blood demons
competing with one hand what another roster, but even hunters than in an age. John Mc Arthur you now
Benny hide our now. You
many have found out you did you guys. It made me think through a whole new career here, because really you become when you
a book about demons, which is what I just dont you, you kind of become the weird book guy right, which is what I've always wanted to avoid by its,
I stated because actually an important topic, whoever you end up, you end up kind,
finding your set people get? Look where they owe you wrote a book about demons and possessions like I did, and I did it from a journalist papers
active, and so, when you start to get into it, it becomes less weird. But I am technically the word book I so net
You're gonna, do a book about. You are foes,
Finally, I am ready to an end time, so I first but was about the issues about the enzymes, and I mean this does shouldn't be weird rightly gets Christians, but, but I think because of how Hollywood shows it and because of because it is strange, mean these topics are strange. Uk
you can find yourself
in that world, but again I kind of come at it from what aggressions bleed like, let's dive into this. Let's talk about it right. So that's the approach. Yes, oh, what made you pick this topic liquor?
did. You know anybody that possessed anything.
So that's it is. I know people who had experiences rain. I'm escaped Amis skeptical. Personally, I want to know I'm a lifelong christian, but if somebody tells me they ve gone through in the, I need to be able to find
facts that back about up right now,
boy in your life. You can fully trust in no that they're, not crazy, they're, not making something happens. I do have. I think we all know people who have had those experiences. Maybe some of us have had those experiences, but
but to answer your question I mean this is not a book I wanted to write. In fact I read
directed doing at once. I prayed about it. I felt like it wasn't the right thing to do.
And then you know
I was trying to write a book about Trump in the election and I'm out their pitching. This book in publishers are like. We thought it was a slam dunk my age and I M publishes like no. We don't want this book and nobody wanted to end and I was a little shocked and then Tom.
Nelson comes back and elect. Let's talk about other ideas in so I had mentioned this passport
checked about demons and possession and they were really interested in it, and so I never filled. I never actually proposed
The book like an offence.
Form, and yet they
offered it to me and I sat on it for two months. Cousinly again do I want to do so. I want to dive into this topic. It's heavy. It's difficult,
and listen honesty,
now? You really want to do it right if you're going to tackle it. So I prayed about it fell
It was the right thing to do, and I did it yours sceptical when
someone says you know I had a possession experience and that's me like I'm. My instant react
it is like me, a my
It is more like yellow, definitely happened, and so it will what what has been your experience like is evident
Where was most people's red universally interview, people like housewife yeah are our most people's reaction, like this very sceptical. Like demons oligopoly,
demons exists but, like my first response is always something more rational
what is it's like, I feel like, is create a lot of Christians. We believe it in our head may be, but it has a may be reached our hurry and then, let's be honest, there's a million people out there. Who would love?
nothing more than to have a good story, be turned into the next. Conjuring right. I mean
there's a whole business behind it and, if will be being honest about that, so
for me again. I come at it in a sceptical way, but I have encountered a lot of people and I have to tell you when I was the faith editor over the blaze, and I was therefore five years. We were encountering stories there when that was actually the first place that I started exploring this, so it was, the routes were come said earlier on, but there was one particular case I write about in playing with fire of this woman who had this
claim of possession in her house and it's an insane story and there is actually documentation, and so
When there's documentation when it's not just a person saying I went through this in all, listen to you! Listen! If you tell me you went through this experience, I'm happy to listen, but when you have cops sheriffs,
nurses and other people on the record telling media outlets that are not just fringe media outlets.
Mainstream media outlets. Eve experience this. I have a hard time just step alien, say: ok, you're lying about this right, so
Those are the cases that I was looking for in this book. A fearsome your most compelling cases, Eve looked up in your research, giving a total of top seven crazy sub. Seventeen cases go
so what are the one of the things I did? I did in this book with limit the cases because we get started cases all day, but there's what this one I'm talking to this woman, ok disk
this is is crazy. It's Gary Indiana! It was twenty eleven. She moves into this rental house with her mom and her three kids. You get them on the grandmother. The three kids
and their living in this renders they start having problems
flies and insects, and it just sort of manifests itself.
Into a situation in which she is claiming that she's being possess in that the possession is jumping from her to her kids right now, obvious
people think she's crazy. They don't believe they think there's some kind of abuse going on in the home
ends up happening. Is this situation spiral out of control? The family ends up at a doctor's office one day trying to
the kids treated and
there there they call nine. When one is, the kids are acting so radically
they get to the hospital.
This is, I am going to tell you this new programme, laugh because I laugh when I first read it
The Indies star covered this right. They get to the hospital there's a cps child care worker there and a nurse and as their interviewing the family. They claim and they're not they just claim this sits on official documentation. You can look it up in the official report that one of the children like walked up the side of the wall. Basically, Masonic jointly Catholic went up the wall and came down.
Feet and landowners feet now, when I read that, obviously the story went viral and twenty fourteen, so a few years later, a reporter catches window this and does it major right up- and this is not just like a little blue
in the energy star was a big deal at the time you as my remember it
and it went international. The story now.
As I writing playing with fire, I want to track down, not the family. I want to track down the sheriff involved. I want to track down the priest and I want to hear from them what they think and I will go into all the details here, but they backed up all
experience is that I am describing do and plenty of other experiences as they were, investigating and again sketch.
Going into this, especially on the sheriffs run, the date
locked away feeling like something happened here, that we could not explain into those are compelling and I'm truncating disturbed, that those are really compelling case is to me how widespread you think, like demon, possession or something like that. Is it something where I believe it?
Believe it happens, but you know I don't I don't see like I hear about it.
Every year, what is the point of a demon possessing smell like that? It seems like Canada, I was starting to serve their purpose throughout. This makes it seem
everybody freaks out and goes. Oh, my gosh. What are praying to Jesus, which that's now,
One generally right
You got any
a meal.
That is the actual indefinitely
stop in latin
I can't tell if you guys are playing a recording of an actual possession of your mimicking. Why? Because it sounded so agur, I immediately narrow,
answer my Emily road. Emily rose here. I am
ok
I forgot about Emily arouse, I forgot about Thou and what you know I think
So one of the things I dig that values important. You know you wanna go to theologians pastors. You want to talk to people and find out ok on a serious nellie. What is this? How
does it happen, and so I spoke of the number of people who, both in the cap
the church in and outside mostly people. I talked with we're outside of the catholic Church in the Christian around how fast.
Frequently does this happen and new and they would tell you it's rare. I mean that that's what I think is really interesting about this, that a full possession would be a very rare thing for that too.
And right that you would. That doesn't mean there are in a pretty there's an oppression and other issues going on and spiritual warfare which we read about inefficiency, x, ray. We know there is a battle going on. That's you now, behind the scenes are not seeing in front of us but
So it's rare, its incredibly rare, and then you have. You have the issue of infestation which a sort of the possession of a place, and so that was interesting to and I kind of into some some
interesting story surrounding that which
that's a little disputed, not everybody believes that a place can have these issues, like all other biblical evidence for infestation
so that would be the first say. I love that you asked that cause for me as a Christian as a journalist integration. If I'm going in and looking at something and you're telling me this is a we need to look at their christian lands, I would
have to see biblical evidence that there were places that we're in,
I stayed ray, and so we don't really have a lot of biblical evidence of place is being invested. We also don't have to have a lot of little evidence of huntings of people dying in coming back to haunt
I can talk about a couple of things in scripture that are strange. Actually, I never noticed
but we don't have those examples and so a lot
People would say: well, then it has something to do with the people. It's not the place, but I I also
with some deliver
ministers who deal with those who would say well a lot of
people who work in this field actually deal more with locations, and then they do people in, and that was intriguing to me and we could probably impact that more. But it's in the book so knows no biblical evidence.
I'll say there's no biblical evidenced icy, crowning Gomorrah.
What
That is why the demon of sand
well, I mean a return on the news, so this
Could you give me a drop this question of whether our culture can be impact? And I think that's a little bit of a different question and I think the answer is yes, people could be impacted Ray and the bottle tells us that I think the sounds crazy and women Mademoiselle
the minds of believers are our clouded, and you know you dive into these topics in its very clear culture can be impact because people can be, and so I think we turn on the news and we're watching that ray we're. Seeing a lie,
chaos, not everything
is adding. This is the danger. There's people who see who would say there are no demons, there's nothing to worry about that, doesn't exist anymore, and then there is the other extreme. There's a demon behind every doorway ray we gotta be completely free.
Because they're everywhere in every bad decision, is that it's like will now you just made similarly crappy decisions in your life and your user freewill right so
that's important to distinguish have ever read. Frank prerequisite is present darkness
a long time ago, I was wondering how close he was, how accurate downwards.
Because he is like angels and diamonds like fighting over everything like if your card that won't starts, like a demon like hacked the
you know radiator in half or something you know.
Like so let me let me throw this. You guys right the one thing, because I had never do my entire life reading scripture. We have, as you know, the devil's bad. We know all that, but I had never had a chance to kind of sit down and look out here. What is the Bible tells about Satan? What is that
we'll tell us about the the moments that Jesus healed people right from us, and we have countless examples that scripture and the one
thing the Bible does not tell us about any of those story is when it comes to people being healed, and this is incredible. I never I had never thought of. This is how those people became afflicted right. So we,
people get into these details of like they know what they know,
like what we know where the demons came from and there's a demon for this agreement for that
to me you gotta go with what you haven't scripture. We don't even know how they were infected with this. We just meet them on that journey and we see the healing and that really stuck
to me because it has to be by design right,
intentionally not included in the story.
A common musically walks into the bar and he's a cowboy and he's like you're the demon.
Our goal is a chest. Explode
our man, the demon of gambling, we're gonna do Carmen under Showcase Ito. Yes, it's sort of a sort of like that, but it's going to think that
kind was only running or now that you're saying they don't say
the demon about cause viruses like for how they got it. They didn't like we re
is that what you're saying the Bible we don't now riah. We may know how. Yes, he was
exactly windy. Indeed, then that's what happened.
Now it is. It is interesting and I'll tell you so I ones environmental health promoters right, because men
help providers to me it's like. If you can talk about this issue, you have to have an honest conversation about mental health, because there's some crazy stories, which I include in the book
people who have died because
others assume they were possessed, and there like burning them, did at trying to get rid of the demon me there's crazy step. The people have done.
Different countries and even in America that you have taken
front that and so differentiating mental health from
the demonic and interviewing people who deal with them on a daily basis. That was really interesting. Just two here, ok! Well, how would you know if somebody was possessed verses, mentally ill and what would that mean for you as a practitioner and some people?
and I talk about them in the book- are very well respected, psychologists and psychiatry, and they are very much involved in making that differentiation and even working with churches, which
Fascinating to try to come to a resolution on these things, what are some like? Hollywood, depictions of demons and huntings and all that stuff
They like totally get it wrong. As for me, I can I watch whore.
Movies I like arm and stuff, but it's there.
These demons is having like ultimate power.
Over people in things in it, the another nothing can really fight against them. In other, even have a pasture, a priest come in and try to fight it. Often. You know that the priest runs away screaming again,
darkness thing, and so I mean that we would see in Hollywood that sir, but go stead well. There's like
the pc bright, like the pcb spewing out ahead standing all that be. You know.
I'm going to say this and if I get me in trouble with the thing the money movie that I thought was the most interesting I can say was accurate. I thought the original
where's, conjuring movie, did a good job of showing a battle between good and evil ray of actually cause. I think that's the whole day haunt air premise of this is that there is good in there is evil and when you fully understand evil
I don't know we need obsess over understanding points is back to the need for good.
Is the need for good right, and so,
but there was a good depiction of that battle. Now not all that the chair flying off the floor and all the other crazy stuff, although when I was
talking to people about this? There is a wide range of experience. Most people will tell you that
doing deliverance and or exorcism. However, you want to use the wording to describe it.
A very calm thing: the person's experiencing problems, this either oppression or they got something else going on, maybe in a rare cases a full possession and they are going in there, praying for that person there commanding whatever it is so leave and
They have success, doing that they're, not always using holy water and they're, not always using crucifixes. There, it's a very peaceful process, so Hollywood has taken it
think made it into something that looks so scary and crazy. Now
there are extreme examples there aren't. I can share one with you: that's actually kind of creepy and stir in stirring, but that
No that's made the church, I think actually retreat from talking about it, which is something else about Zadig as well, because we just we dont tighter about your charges. We don't. My church has started to talk about bids on an issue that gets a lot of play in some churches, but here it went using my great historical
the story. All I
Then we have other woman, this one.
Amy and down. She was a nurse completely, never had a history of mental illness and never had any problems in one day, she's working in the hospital as a nurse and starts feeling sick.
She I'm just doesn't feel yourselves and she gets home after her shift.
And she's a runner and added runner. She couldn't run in a straight line. She just she went to her husband she's. Like listen, I feel like I'm having a nervous breakdown like something is not right and within
days. Having these issues start Amy was
hospitalized, so we
In eight day period she went from clearly fine working as a nurse certainly problems. She had kids in a family.
Being in a mental institution
they were going around. Looking for answers, is it mental? Is it physical than every doktor she encountered is selling her eye? We don't really know what's going on right, where they are their assuming its mental, they ever on all sorts of medication. Trying to to remedy this issue, and when you talk to her about this now and she's completely healed in and through whatever this was, she believes it was a possession. She will tell you that she was consumed suddenly, after never having anything
about suicide consumed with this idea of ending her life. You know as this is going on and she was a nurse she would think I'd different way. She could do it, and so
about eight months ended it since went on for months. She goes
after the second for her house and she sitting in the window sill and just picture that she's
facing inside the rooms or her back to the window. She doesn't jump out of the window. What she does she sits on the window sill and she just drops herself back out of the window
she lands on the pavement into force down nearly dies, and in the midst of this you know, chaos and by the way, as this is going on she's telling the people around her.
I have demons, and she remember saying any of this. I and she's talking and other voices and then her family members are. You know, corroborating this to her after telling her these things are going on, so she nearly died. She she is paralyzed to this day from the waist down from this incident, but this woman comes to the hospital and.
Forms a deliverance honours. Somebody from her church who had heard about her incident at the church and goes and praise for her and overtime. She's completely find never has another mental health issue again in her case is weird because she can't pinpoint what it was.
That led her into the? She was a church goers before this happened. She fell like she was a Christian now she has a much closer relationship of Christ, but she has really,
gently come forward- and I find
compelling when people are reluctant to share.
Story, because she feels that there are other people who are facing these things and they're afraid to speak out and get help? Was Hitler possessed
Was Heller possessed, I would, I would argue, to be now listen. This is where the fine line as you can be a truly evil person, but when you're that evil you-
have to imagine that something else is guiding that level.
Of diabolical evil? But I guess we can't be certain, but I would imagine I would imagine he had either a full possession or some level of control
that was Emmy. Listen at the end of the day, we make a choice ray. We make a choice of what we're going to follow, what we're going to lead in and
I think there are a few people that diabolical in history. We can look and say that person had something going on.
Him or her dad.
You know we what that is
side of the Norm
our say they be having about the demonic, a kind of a gun.
I mean I've. We do completely. We avoided- and I do when I think about this topic I think of
You know the way that we almost everywhere
a voice to some degree inside of you, that is, it is dark voice, its telling you the worst things: it's, u worthless, nobody like
few nobody wants to talk to you. Nobody wants you here.
To some degree. Has that voice and me
That's where I wonder where that connects to the idea that there is a force working against us cause, you look at addictions and things
and you and even I struck with certain addictions news that voice knew that just wants you to do the worst thing for you and then how does that connect to Agus addiction stuff? Like that, you didn't
connect that those dots in that Canada?
yeah, I know,
I did and that what was I let people guide me side when I read a book like this, like I did this with the times I go in and I find acts were too. I trust you who have had experience and
I wanted to hear from them, especially the mental health providers like what are you see when you suspect that there is something more than mental illness going on with somebody? What are you suspect is going on?
issues of addiction came up quite frequently to the point where some experts would say they found it very infrequent that they would encounter somebody who had an addiction. They didn't have some
our form of oppression, and I use that word oppression and x, the seventies experts say that means that there is
evil is pushing on you in some way. Does minutes inside of you but
that is affecting you in some way and that they found a real time between the
things again. You have the fine line of people making bad decisions
and using things as an excuse? And then
and then having this real issue, and you see this a lot.
With with all sorts of different issues, but when you go back to the Bible and you.
Who say in- and I was sort of talking about this before it really stuck out to me for the first time when you Paul those verses together, obviously a liar
but really seeking to destroy. I mean that terminology seeking to destroy and to kill and to confuse- and these are all the words that, when I think of Struggle
people go through. These are the things that happened right. We question ourselves, we think we're worthless. As you were saying we, you know, we feel as though there's no purpose for us. We feel that,
he's telling us going do that, go and do that and again. That could just be us, but I do think that there's something to that, and so you will see that many times and you would ask that we were talking about the video and and then equipping a little bit thereabout the demon of this, the demon of that there does seem to be a connection between some of these issues.
That people's struggle with Ray and
that affliction, and so I'm not
the illusion to go in and say this is what's definitively happening, but I think, as the person bringing together, I found
consistency very interesting and hearing the stories is Tom Cruise possessed.
I mean
you know there were those mother. There are moments he jumped on a couch. Remember that Oprah moment, wherever ones like our right times, little Natsir, so I dont know I can't die, I'm not in a position to diagnose. I would say that the couch job was the
this moment that I started questioning what was really going now Tom cruise
As you know now, you're the weird demon guy
I am, I guess, I'm meant to go with it right. I mean
Sk I, what are like churches pastures, lay people like what are we supposed to do if we think that someone is
possess. Do we just call you the weird demon Geier, as they like
not call me because I am I all I do is pulled together. I'm clueless, I think so.
Here's the thing where we did a pull through Harper Collins with this book church leaders and it was interesting to to go on said: hey, ok,
Do you believe- and I say, church leaders- I mean pastors volunteers, people who run Bible setting. These are people and leadership positions in some way in churches. Do you guys believe, as church leaders that
society culture can be impacted by the demonic. Eighty seven percent said he ass. Do you believe that you know individuals can be impacted over eighty percent said? Yes, then
pose this question
pastors and churches talking enough about this.
And seventy eight percent say no to the very leaders who are concerned that these issues are impacting people and culture are also admitting that we're not talking about them, and I would say before I answer your question: cuz, I'm kind of
answering other questions, and as that
you issues in scripture that our time
about as much as this and that are given his little attention in practice in churches, and that is fascinating to me because.
I mean this is showing up throughout the gospels repeatedly and you
you kids to children who are possessed, which opens up a whole slew of other of other questions about how that even happens, but I think
The key is if this is something people feel like they are struggling with. I'm not
medical professional, but I think going to a pastor going to trusted christian friends praying for one another. I think we can over
analyze this in assume. We need this big exorcism or assume that somebody I mean this is something that spiritual warfare. Again we talk about a fijian six. We talk about that battle over good and evil and it says, take up the show the faith. What does that mean like what
up every day, be a good Christian, which means connect with God, pray
Reed scripture and when you feel an affliction David's. If it's something that's mentally uploading, you, you ve gotta, go get that taking care of you. Gotta talk to a councillor. There's other island
that if it's something you feel a spiritual go to your pasture, but one of the challenges that some pastors don't know anything about this right, so an that's all
the people of the catholic Church because of that because they have a system for dealing with it. That of
just down, which is unfortunate, what if there's a goes to do you call, then you can call it that
ghostbusters, obviously
You know, there's a guy. If there's a ghost
but that was something I started asking these experts. Do you believe that the ghost or thing right, because you ve got this crazy weird example in the old testament of Samuel being some ends by Saul? Re like Sol, goes
It's this medium. The psychic she goes. She she brings you now Samuel up and she's even shock. She was able to do it as some would say. Well, that's a ghost it's like well, it seems, like God, allow that to happen, because the message that he delivered was like hey, you're gonna die, and then you have this weird example, and I never an utter if you guys are a notice, this Jesus dies and then these people start coming
their tombs and go
It looked so dead people kind of gems and they start going into town
Think it's obviously I believe it happened, but it's a simple symbolism of overcoming Deathray that Jesus would overcome death, but
Those are two moment, some might point, you and say look there's goes in the Bible, but I think really that that doesn't qualify and we don't have examples of it. So
Why started asking people well so if it's not a goes, if I go and I grab a bore, but I wouldn't recommend doing when I try to connect with a dead relative. Am I talking
a person or am I communicate with something else, and what was interesting is that most of the people I spoke with him playing with fire said Europe:
into something else, and this
it's a little weird, but that wants you to believe that it is a disease person which again it's an interesting theory. I appreciate you taken my Ghostbusters Jochen answering it.
Do I need, listen, that's you gotta do and these interviews encourages move within. I feel like the pronunciation of wheat. We dream a wager,
debater. Oh it's it's weird to me. It's me. It seems like overtime, adjust pupils got lazy and pronounce that we d
Let's all yeah me, I'm lazy, learning yelling at me sounded out a wager, but there are like we d
gotta be able without filling scared was, I am weedy board, we D, it sounds like one
Even then
have you ever use a wage aboard overtones by now have scared my parents would not have allowed a mile away. Thank grown up
I have all chapter out that, by the way I have a very warmly for much longer chap with for research, did you do any wages? Are we doing?
Worse now, wouldn't touch. One of those is I mean I didn't
I did a lot of. I did a lot of research on the history of it and I was actually more freaked out about the wager board. After looking at the history of it than I was beforehand, and that that was mistake,
So, like look at it and see what did this come? Forestry? Let me ask you something: it's been bugging,
and then we're gonna go to the subscriber portion, but Jesus cast the demons into the pigs with if we discuss a few times in a spike. So why does Jesus? Why did they asked to go to the pigs, wise Jesus sentiment of the pigs and then they will kill themselves,
What was the point of it go is all that I spent a long time thinking about that, because the
clearly, and so this actually speaks to a broader question. How can a demon- and this is an actual debate?
things around in a house. I do people who say books fly off their shelves, they have things happening. If it's not inside of a person, can it do those things or does it require
body of some sort to actually physically do things, and so on
qualified answered? Adding it's an interesting question. When it came to the pigs, it does sort of lend itself to the idea that it was so horrifying to them to think about being cast out and having no, where to go and looking for a host, and we do have language in the Bible. It seems to indicate that their roaming around in looking for a house right, and so they asked to go into the pigs and the tags, kill themselves in Cell
I don't know you could do. You could go a lot of different theories that that the pigs that Jesus this sort of showing his authority over them and the pigs are dying. Because of that I mean there's a million theories about this that are out there. I don't, I don't know that we can solve it, but I find it
stating that they seem to need or Juan
that body to inhabit which again opens a million questions about the frequency of this. Although it does seem that you have to do some pretty leg
things in order to open yourself up to that level of control,
If you made those pigs into complete this and then eight the tacos, would you be possessed by fat help
meet. I guess it depends on how how how hot do you cook the meat I mean? I don't know, can you burn it out and will you be like a swine style of demons rather than just did
different form of songs alive. I'm sick.
That, again, is that alive fee is that it is at a pretty exorcism, or is that again just your interpretation turn often on my demon possession at an under control, but people that conferred on command
Gosh, you Bobby I'm command that, I think, is managing autonomously.
So a roommate governor, MRS, is going downhill fast, let's
mention Billy Hollows book,
fire modern investigation unto demons exorcism in ghosts. I gotta stop
about ninety little zoom in yeah, zoom that so my because we stop
homeschooling schooling and now my my wife's, my ten son material.
Would you like anything you like to read about you know cuz we're at homeschooling, you got to pick topics and he goes mention like paranormal stuff and like ghosts and stuff like that,
on the day that he said that your book
appeared in our male showed that
freaking. She had no idea that wearing it freak them out like there, but
It is a little. We are aware that it is said that it is not up to the door, so you just let him red, goose, bumps
when they were laid sending them out to which makes it even weirder, to be honest with little remaining so well. That was an interesting discussion with Billy Hollow
they'll, be more in the subscriber portion.
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Please explain why you hold those folks in such high esteem
everything. I saw looked really silly bogus from the south.
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of immature junior high school boys, oh and even perhaps.
Less time watching dumb Youtube videos more time. Read the Bible, your basic
the standing of scripture is sometimes sometimes is appalling and don't disagree.
I will say in my defense I feel like it. It plays better for me to act like a complete idiot when it comes to scripture. You're like on the show he's just funnier.
Like say something to be wrong: the out only wrong, but also like Europe. I already know you're in no more than me, so it is kind of diet way back in this like dirt.
At one time, pretty dumb didn't like not think that has a kind was a book at the binary. I tracked unity has a kind of the book of the by thought. It would say I just gotta wrong again
a book, and given that a book and there's no we're,
I was amazed. You got the inevitable that was so gonna get another hate mail
I'll still doesn't know about an important the tampon thing you have a tattoo.
Your arms we're talking about it's, not it's
TED to attempt on rain always, but it's not. The same font live a little different genetic
capital, capital,
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Harry Potter. Think she's got. Imagine wonder some lines by saying the book. I don't really watch Harry Potter, but that's what I'm going to get like a giant like
Harry Potter, symbols around it or something
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right in parentheses, this is from Harry Potter, not pads
we're not tangle attempt bonds in response to the sky, telling us not to talk about tampered area.
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and how tampon works yeah, but there's an applicator. What's that? Have you
Have you had to go? Buy them for your wife? Oh yeah, yeah. It's like it so scary, its confusing.
I think, like I, don't know how many different ways you can solve this problem, like everything is so many different things there in that section of the Isle wings, wings, no wings and is like it insertion or like a tea bag type thing
Dracula teabag within they call it. Sir, it's terrible, never say that
pull tat. The amazing thing is weird: we did some joke about. I think it was always. I think it was always doing the thing tat, the paths for mania for men because,
They had actually done something worthy. They removed all the womb
female symbols from the package right to they'd be more.
Closer, there's a nickname, the happier and it got.
Shared a time, but I think the reason I gotcha our joke. I shared so much because men were like
by those at the store and what could be a lot
embarrassing than have ended
to go because we felt monster trucks on Erasmus wrestlers on something
a common male experience having to go by the things get inside my ticket
sure I think, of the one just reminded take a picture and I still really hard. It's like flying. Another and Odin differently
So then the color it's crazy, and then I still got the wrong ones. It's a bloody Metz!
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Billy Hallowell on crime.
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