From the New York Times I'm like about this is the date for decades, getting up presidential part required a cumbersome petition process and a lengthy legal review under President Trump. Those seeking parts are using very different strategy. It's Thursday August Meyer Trump took office and people didn't know what he was gonna do about parts. In fact, I think a lot of folks You think he would do much at all and then August in his first year in terms of making news over the possibility of pardoning former Arizona,

I have kept up higher kind of out of nowhere. He floated the notion that he would pardon former share of joy or pile Campbell. Robertson is a national level. For the times. Why am I doing that? Sometimes I asked myself in its corny. I'm gonna tell you why I do it. The people want me as the sure our Pio is this hero among the hard right, just arrests at thirty one, more recently coming into our country illegally. He was a former sheriff in Maricopa County, zone and we're going to continue or the raid businesses their higher illegal The majority have false identification, so I'm not stopping doing my job and the Justice Department fears before had described in this violating constitutional rights.

Premature, no other law enforcement, and mainly at Latinos. I don't know I'm in love with community law. We live up every he was charged. Racial profiling, unconstitutional treatment of prisoners had wilfully defied court orders, but I think some on the hard right so in standing up for law and order, so was sheriff convicted for doing his job from floated the Eddie with parliament in it a rally in Phoenix I'll make a projection. I think he's gonna be just fine. Ok, he said that the former share for pile would be just fine, but jar of Joe could feel good, and he did a few days later. Indeed, pardon

And what's the general reaction to Giora Piles, pardon outside of the republican base, mostly people were shocked by President trumpets facing sharp criticism for granting up pardon to Joe are piled. The main focus only on was county of all people. Jor Pio, our Pio Game notoriety for his aggressive action to arrest, illegal immigrants, lawmakers and civil rights advocates are questioning the president's decision and its timing are Pio was scheduled to be sentenced in October Democrats and Republicans. Senators as well as a few civil rights organizations, are all slamming president trumps decision. One group going as far as to call the move, a defence of racism, I'm angry. I counted today with Martin Racism, what's a payment and ok but terror that pile cause and what he was being parting for was not some law long ago, drunken

nor something wary he might have been right, flee convicted. But you know you, you wanna drink some compassion. This is for defining a court right, so this is not quite what people imagine from presidential pardons, no particularly last few decades, where president's have been reluctant to issue them all away in their term. There might be one here, a couple, their commutation and then there's just kind of flurry at the end of their term? Up for the growing out of office, and part of that is because pardon Sir usually not very politically popular, particularly for controversial figures in so fur trumped up, pardon and extremely controversy. We'll figure not even a year in the office, was pretty unusual, and so when he did that it open the question of how you gonna use this power,

so some months later, and you christian saucer viewers Navy sailor who tried to use Hillary Clinton Corridor Former navies, your Christian Societe Socio, was sentenced to one here in prison for using a sap auditing was convicted of taking pictures of classified areas of nuclear submarines. President tromp, you know, I think he knows that in my heart, understand. I made a mistake and I and accept the responsibility for at night, and I hope you'll get my family and I and she to basically have a future because he and he went on Fox brands, friends and laid out his case running me, isn't going gonna alleviate the punishment I mean, I think I've been pre severely punished

lost all my life savings in just a few days later in March, president has pardoned Christian Saucy, a Navy submarine, or he gets a full part. Mr saucy, I was twenty two years old at the time of his offences and served out his twelve months sense. So he goes on Fox NEWS and we presume the president saw it and the sailor is pardoned. Yes and his attorney The Fox news helped the very open about so this is when the game should really starts before my White House, able, trial in the c I a unique case so next in April scooter, Libya's perjury and obstruction trial is good or living. Vice president, chinese, former chief of staff lie two investigators about his conversations with reporters about Valerie Plain now he had been convicted is leaking classified information

sentences committed by George Bush, but he wanted a full part and someone who was a friend of MR crops brought Libya's named Trump White House release a statement that quotes the president as saying I dont know. Mister. But for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly and hopefully this full part and will help rectify a very sad portion of his life. He got apart. Then, next month, sixty one and two hundred twenty pounds Jack Johnson Jones. Lean master Johnson was a world champion boxer and over a hundred years ago, was convicted in a completely racist, racially motivated conviction for travelling with white girlfriend when Trump signed his pardon. Today as president, I vision and executive grant of clemency, a full part posthumously to John author Jack Johnson. There is a big affair at the White House

with celestial alone what they saw blessed with the iraqi situation, play that character. So that's just allow you had been pushing his case. It was very much last episode of a game. Show you one hard moment, I'm Dinesh Sousa, then Dinesh Sousa my new book. The big lie exposed the nazi roots of the American left its out today diseases conservative loss of book writer. Media guy, who makes movies about tell evil Democrats are and he'd been convicted of. Campaign violations in his case was apparently pledged by TED crews. I had the opportunity to raise the issue with President tromp. I encouraged him to depart international. He got a full pardon president, drum seemingly passing out pardons to heroes of the far right,

does eagerly as Oprah once gifted Pontiac Stew, suburban long now. People are made for starting to see where this is going and Trump starts talking about talking about why the stone says: maybe your pardon Martha Stewart or ROD Le Glenn ROD, blogger you about them, and they were both on the celebrity apprentice. Trumps dealt with them personally and maybe they'll get it. Next comes Alice Johnson, a woman who is serving a life sentence in Alabama on some cocaine, related convictions and

video of her case. It made its way to Kim Kardashian West more. When I initially called Yvonne Guy said I would love a meaning. Like your dad, I said that from the start, Miss West got a personal audience with the president pled her case tonight, keeping up with the car mutations sixty three year Old Alan Johnston to be released from this Alabama prison at any time and drawn today. She gets a limitation that a full pardon, but she gets commutation she's released from prison by President Tromp says he is considering a pardon for Mohammed Ali in any talks about Mohammed Ali, but the late boxers lawyers there's nothing to part and his family comes circumstances were very grave thank you, but we actually dont

need one is his conviction was vacated, but the patterns pretty clear the way toward mercy, and this administration is a connection to the president through celebrity whether vets, political celebrity or that's showbiz, whether that's the base, like some that's your best shot. Is this even allowed? My impression is that pardons are thoroughly vetted by the Justice Department. My people who understand the law and whether it has been carried out correctly and that this is a process that goes to many many steps and then, at the end, the president signs off There is almost no check on the president's ability, depart and there's virtually Alexander Hamilton call it his soul, FIAT you just do it and it happens in

There's a lot of feeling about a president has so much power. He can declare a treaty, no one void, Egon declare an invasion, but look at what the president's try to do over the last two years. Emma establishing new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the United States of America. We don't want him here. He starts at almost immediately with the travel ban months and months follow in the courts. A federal judge is putting a stamp wary. Stop to some of the most important parts of President Donald Trump executive order banning citizens from seven muslim majority country

From entering the Eu S, the first two are thrown out basically and have to be read. This is something when we think that the present would have so much power to do, but there's a judiciary, and they have a check. We are also working with Congress on tax reform and simplification. Then the president says I want tax refer well, yet Congress basically drove that train, and I am fully committed to working with Congress to get this job.

And I dont want to be disappointed by Congress. Do you understand and then even things that are seem to exist wholly within the executive branch, uncontrolled immigration, you see what's going on there that's happening quickly, but I little problem with the courts, not one wanting to give us the decisions that should be given but Wigan when it. He declares a new approach on immigration that does not invite core challenges. It still requires the Department of Homeland Security to draft a policy

and actually carry them out, but with a pardon he says it is done so in a way when ever he is frustrated or flustered by the bureaucracy of government by the judiciary by Congress. When all else fails, there's always the power of pardon it's the one thing you can just do on his own, on whatever timetable you wants exactly, he can say it, and it is so. But even given that power, even knowing that a president can do this automatically and without any obstructions, is this? How pardons normally happen. So the original idea of a pardon ways to respond to sort of over severity in the criminal justice system, someone whose life was more or less,

ruined her overly confined by a conviction. They ve done their time, there's some years out of prison and they want. Therefore, back again and it's a measure of official atonement or absolution. You have become a proactive member society. You have obligations, responsibilities. Your fulfilling we're gonna. Let you live a full life again, and so that's how it worked for most of the country's history and in some period there were hundreds of pardons a year, and it was not noticed much. It was a routine part of the presidency. And it began to change in the eightys, and the country got into very prosecutor. Your mood and federal sentences got stricter. The prison started, filling up, collateral consequences started piling up for convictions, in other words, not being able to vote with a felony not being able to get certain jobs with certain felonies and so

places you can't get social benefits can own a gun, and, while that was going on at the same time, the Pardon office, these sort of escape valve started. Closing the thinking being with the prosecutors really got a hold of the process. They wanted to defend the prosecution's rather than grant clemency, and so the majority of parties the got before the present were recommended for denial. So just as more people are getting felony convictions and the consequences of a conviction are getting more severe. The country's mood turns against the idea of mercy and of pardon the people who have been convicted yes, and even when pardon seekers were good candidates. For apart and by the metrics that you laid out, they had paid their debt to society that they

or not violent. They were not getting pardoned. No and the wait for a decision got longer and longer and longer and became more necessary to hire lawyer, because the applications are getting more complicated and by the time Obama came into office. The number of people getting clemency from presidency really slow to a trickle, and then he he realized this, and in twenty fourteen set up this clemency initiative to give commutation to nonviolent drug offenders, serving a long prison sentence and it went onto grant commutations to over one thousand seven hundred people and well that was a record number. It was still sort of a drop in the bucket I mean when he left office

passed on over eight thousand commutation petitions in two thousand pardon petitions to trap which had not been closed, denied granted her feel so it's not as if this system that drum inherited is working all that smoothly for people seeking pardons no, not at all, and in reporting this article. When I talk to pardon seekers, some of whom had been waiting years with pretty sterling looking applications and the Obama administration, who had a lot of faith that their life story, a seemingly sympathetic president, will end with a pardon at first. They cannot give up hope.

When a woman s office- and this includes trump supporters and not they saw a bomb- is their chance. The now they're looking at this flurry of pardons- and I say well, I wasted something, but I just gotta completely changed my strategy and change it up how, instead of trying to stick to these rules and demonstrate, through reference, letters and everything else that you ve lead such and such a life, you gotta figure out how to get somebody famous who can get President Trump

Is it possible that this new Trump pardoning system, no matter how unusual it seems, might actually be an improvement based on everything you told us about how much this system has kind ground to a halt? Nobody, I talk to no matter how frustrating they found the opaque, slow, moving bureaucratic system sees. The celebrity game, show thing as better. It's different, it's another chance and its more transparent than you know the rules now under the bureaucrats. System. They didn't really know the rules, they didn't know why they were making progress They know they're not making progress because they don't know Kim Kardashian he. So the key is: how do you get to some variant of came cartels right and and how do you well? I talked to gain in Dallas

right now to shun Hannity there thinking about big Trump supporting churches in the area. Maybe if you go to church there, they know somebody who know somebody another again. Philly knows where killing Conway's beach houses on the Jersey Shore, while drop a package off on a porch with your bio, so you're talking to people who have only convictions or criminal convictions who are actively seeking out these kind of side, doors and celebrities to see if that's their ticket to apart and the fact that their talking to me at all, a lot of people who are seeking pardons are doing it, cause you're, so embarrassed about it. They want that history gotten so to talk to a national reporter is not something we want to do there doing it, but,

They know it's all about self promotion now, in other words, even the actor talking to you might be a way to get in front of travel and they'll say that right out, so you are now part of this term. Pardon system yes comfortably. I mean these are decent people, they want to chance they may, their cases, I don't think they're cutting lines in the fact is thereon. Lawyers would say: look you know you try to do everything you. Can you write your congressmen even before tromp you try to figure out a way to get this power, its constitutional power that you technically have access to as a citizen and there's nothing wrong with trying to figure out how to it but doing it through celebrity, was pretty clearly not the way it was envisioned. So, if you think about it here,

In a way present tromp has replaced one unfair system with another unfair system. Yes, but previous system. They result seemed unfair, but We don't really know why it was unclear why it was working the way it's working now, the unfairness of it that is, access to fame. Get you what you want. The unfairness is right out there in the open camel. Thank you very much. Thank you, Michael.

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