From a New York Times. Unlike all of our own, they today House a crass, introduce an article of impeachment against president trouble for quote inciting violence against of the United States, my colleague congressional weapon, Nick Sandoz on what happens next. It's Tuesday January twelve Nick the last time you and I spoke it- Wednesday night, just a few hours after police had cleared riders from the U S, capital, you had been locked down with member Congress as they face this thread and Now, just a few days later, many of those lawmakers are preparing to impeach President Trump for conduct that

they believe in cited that attack yeah, I mean at the very time I was locked down with senators in this and disclosed secure location on Capital Hill. It turns out that a couple of members of the House of Representatives who were veterans from the first impeachment of president Trump little more than a year ago, found. Themselves sheltering in place together in one of their offices, congressman yeah its neck. How are you That's his representative, David Sweeney of Rhode, island and representative tat, Lou of California, somewhere around three, maybe a little before three taboos chief contacted my achieved this They had been evacuated from cannon. Could they take refuge in our offices, of course, in our friends and allies there sitting there with the capital

literally still under siege from thousands of these tramp loyalist mom members for lack of a better terms. They start drawing up an article of impeachment. What might it look like a table? my conference table as we maintain a really long distances. I was at my desk on my phone scribbly know it's based on our conversation and talking in my tooth. Offers, and they then took those ideas and contacted the jewish committee staffers first from additional help and then got a draft back to me. This conduct that still playing out around them struck them so immediately as the kind of thing that warrants impeachment the constitution's most extreme remedy for an office holder that they sit down and starts

What ideas that we didn't have hand write it with our kind of Krillin ten right thing, but I was making notes of times when I thought I need to include and sharing that with my two councils. They connected up with Jamie Raskin. Another Democrat from and a former constitutional law. Professor veteran again of that first impeachment. Push and start really batting ral language and putting together a draft of an impeachment charge against President Trump that they were. You know not enough on that later in the night, Fellini would go to majority weeder, steady horror and say hate when we wrap up here tonight, when we finish certifying Joe Biden, who act or college, when I want to go straight to the floor with this impeachment charge against the present and I've got ready. The thing that I have to say but I thought a lot about throughout this period, which was weighing on me. A lot was you nomadic may serve on its foreign affairs, and I do a lot of work in international human rights and democracy, but

and just what I from a lot about was your. How do we explain to the world while we're talking down a little bit in said, wait, but in a basically through that first night, Thursday, into much of the day Friday momentum built at a pretty incredible clip for drastic action by the house this afternoon, I don't have declared good, isn't later described it, because yesterday the President of the United states incited and armed insurrection against America. Speaker Pelosi went out and addressing reporters raised, the idea herself, if the vice president, a camera, do not add a congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment. That is the overwhelming sentiment of my pocket and the american people by the West was on the house.

Impeach. She took months the kind of coming onto the idea men here she was saying, and I found if expiring, myself, phones, lighting up each impeach and president must be held accountable again. He like so you know things were after them. he's pretty quick. So what do we understand about houses? she's gonna work in the time that's left of the term presidency so spending the weekend trying to puzzle through many of these questions. How this could all work, how you could safely actually get lawmakers back into a building where there was such a stunning security failure less than a week ago, How's leaders announced today that there are actually going to hold not one but two different vote this week to try and effectually this outcome. They want first on Tuesday they're going to her

The vote on a resolution that would formally have the House ask vice president pants and the cabinet to invoke the twenty fifth amendment, which is a kind of unwieldy constitutional power that gives him and the majority of the cabinet. Is they act together, the ability to rest away the powers of the press see for Mr Trump and to assume Colorado of Acting President himself. This is actually, I think, Democrats when we speaker policy views as the easiest option. If I present pants would go ahead and do this, they could be sure that you know it could get to the end of terms term with no further violence incited rather unusual actions taking place by knowing that. That's probably pretty unlikely. There have been calls for pence to invoke the twenty fourth amendment, basically since last Wednesday, and he hadn't done it. He hasn't said anything Democrat

We have now set themselves on this kind of parallel course towards impeachment, essentially giving pence an ultimatum in saying either you do us or we make from the first president in american history. Who's ever been impeach twice. before we move on to the house and patient process entirely sure that my pencil wound in the twenty four the memory and the reason I ask that is because of reporting, our colleagues. the line that Pence has drawn. We himself and the President in office. days, a line that began on Thursday morning in the early hours of the day, when he it stated that he would break from the president's demands, carry out duties and confirming the electoral college vote and formalizing binds win in the reality that, during the storming of the capital, the president was provocatively reading in a way that seem to direct his supporters to

They go after my parents and so isn't A possibility that a very perhaps finally angry MIKE pants could decide to invoke twenty. Remember, there's always the possibility. You know, people close depends obey, don't cheek of the fact that he is very angry that not only did he certified Biden Swim, but he, unlike resin trump plans to attend the inauguration of, but I think, the reasonable hopes of any democrat or Republican. Who would like to see him step in our waning pretty quickly here in Washington. Policies giving him an ultimatum, but she's been trying for days now. She and checks humor her counterpart. The Senate actually tried to call pence in the aftermath of what happened after answer divide the vote to talk to him about this, and they were left, hold on the line for twenty five minutes away. The speaker said she was doing laundry fictitious while she waited in

and at the end of it they were told. The vice president was not going to come to the phone. So I think that is the overriding reason that there is not a lot of confidence. I think Regrets hope in the meantime, perhaps if they stretched the south little bit, if they slowly escalate, they could kind of flush more republicans, out of their quietude, to call on the president to resign or otherwise put pressure on him and in some cases that's work. There's been too republican centres. So far we Sir Marhaus gave Alaska and Pat to me of Pennsylvania, who have called on the president to resign immediately lining the best way for our country, Jack is for the president to resign and go away soon as possible. There are some members of the house as well. I think. Yesterday it became clear that the president is unmoored from real, quality and from the south, and I think the vice president taken over and ensuring that the next couple weeks are a piece

will. Transfer is essential right now to a continuation of the strong union, so there is some benefit to waiting, but you can only waits along So, let's assume your right and vice versa. Doesn't invoke between the men men. So instead that second vote you mention comes into play, which is a house food to begin the impeachment process of present from what exactly is the case that House Democrats are bringing what do we know about what actually, in the article of impeachment that these lawmakers began drafting while still in lockdown, the article impeachment that was introduced on Monday is relatively narrow, it's only four pages and that central charge is that president incited by one insurrection against the government of the United States, and it actually quotes from the president's remarks that day

and if you have the article, I wonder if you could read from it: yeah. Ok, your period as this is from article one, incitement of insurrection, the drafters of the article right shortly before the joint session commence present tromp addressed a crowd the lips in Washington DC there, he reiterated false claims. That quote, We want this election and we won by a landslide unquote. He also wilfully made statements that in context encouraged and forcibly resulted in lawless action at the capital such as this is a quote if you dont fight, like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. Thus the article continues incited by press and from members of the crowd he addressed in an attempt to among other objectives, interfere with the joint session solemn constitutional duty to certify the results of between twenty presidential election,

awfully breached in vandalized the capital, injured and killed law enforcement personnel menaced members of Congress, the vice president and congressional personnel, and engage in other violent deadly destructive and seditious acts. You know him judgment in the past a mean even a year ago, and there were pitching president Tromp was fairly convoluted process. An argument took monster but together interviews and evidence and the case even was somewhat abstracted here. It's very plain and it's very simple the president, create the reason for this event to be happening, and then he instigated the violence that would follow and for that needs to be impeached, convicted removed from office and

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de Mony, it's hard to picture all that happening in the Spanish just a few days. It is, and the truth is most of it won't happen. You don't, unlike them, where we got used to this kind of slow drip of information, crescendo of public hearings with different people and the house is prepared to move starting Wednesday morning to directly impeach the present, without any of that, so there will be a debate on the floor of the house where Republicans and Democrats will have a chance to say their peace and then, assuming that pence doesn't act or trumped doesnt resign, which no one thinks is likely. There will be an upper down vote on this article impeachment. I wonder if you think that the first impression in any way paved the way for this version is only possible. I guess I'm saying to pursue this kind of rapid fire impeachment after having carried out a much longer more formal version against the same president. I've been thinking about this

however, over the last several days and in part, because I'm kind of cycling through my own memories, of covering the last one and talking to lot of the same law makers and their advice There's an lawyers who drew up that process and there definitely a sense or an accumulated expertise that I think is making this possible, I'm not sure if they hadn't impeach back then if they be able to move as quickly as the arc of that, no patrons happens so rarely in american history that had come. To be re learned almost every time by the people involved, but is the rare case where they know what they're doing you know. They know where all the doors and covered Dar, I think the other thing that is different, though that is guiding or processes the awareness that the president only has so little time left in office that he's going to be leaving one way, or another. So you know, though they wouldn't readily admitted it kind of changes, the burdens of the process, but I think everybody under

and that they can move with less deliberateness perhaps and they would have under different circumstances if this was a six months ago, so in a correct me. If I'm wrong, we expect impeachment to pass the house, which just requires a simple majority vote and Democrats for the house and then under normal circumstances that would prompt a Senate trial. That would begin pretty much immediately after the house takes its but that has not necessarily been the plan. According to Democrats will tell us about the thinking there will actually Michael, the thinking on this seems to be evolving pretty quickly and now seems to be turned back towards a speedy trial but the issue of when to try this case is a tricky one, because we ve been talking so much about the end of. President trumps turn, but this is also going to be the beginning of Joe Biden Storm the incoming president bright. He has a cabinet. He wants to fill he wants to pass legislation addressing the corona virus crisis and an

consuming impeachment trial of the last president stamps all over that not dimension Biden, kind of over arching political message, which is trying to draw the country together. So there's been a kind of intense debate playing out among Democrats. Behind this like how do we get around this? Could we impeach him and never have a trial at all, never send the charges over? Could we as binds allies. I burn the number three house Democrat suggesting you present pay like bad They had a daisy, Louise began its agenda off and run it and maybe we'll send the articles. Sometimes that are its away two hundred days, people biding clear the decks and then we're going to trial, but the thinking now seems to be to go quickly to trial and present, like buying himself seems to have

reconciled himself to that happening already. Secondly, and is now arguing. Maybe we could spend the days in half is half day hegemonic people nominated and confirmed in the Senate, as well as the movie on the package lol. so half a day we work on my agenda. We work on confirming I cabin nominees and have today we hold a trial, but we get on with her. I think we're headed in that direction, because Democrats feel that they can legitimately argue to the country that this is so urgent that they have to act in it's your seven days and then say away, but actually we're way, two hundred more days to put on trial now that that's just two difficult case to make regardless,

timing. Neck is the goal to ultimately get the Senate through a trial to convict tromp for inciting a mob, because we the house, only needs a majority of votes send. It requires two thirds majority, and even with them, Crass, when with two races in Georgia. It does not have two thirds control of the Senate Right winning controlling Georgia's significant. It might help give Democrats the ability to set the rules then a trial. But the constitution set a very high bar for conviction and potential removal from office as many as seventy republican centres would have to join Democrats to convict the present. Now, there's this added layer of complexity

because, when it goes on trial, he may not be present more. You know he may be a former president, so removal from office is not an issue, but the constitution under the impeachment clauses, provides for something else, which is. If you can win a conviction. Send officer the present or somebody else. You can then proceed to have another vote to potentially bar them from holding federal office again, and this something that is very attractive potentially to Republicans and Democrats for different reasons. The politics of it are exceedingly located. Could you could imagine a scenario where, in this too, many of these republican officials take that tantalizing options monsieur he can't loom over our party. Everyone or nomination again never become the presence of the United States again, and we think that the best thing for the country well, and have to turn around and contend with. Seventy four million people who voted for him, some subset of which are uniquely to vote

Donald Trump as politicians are there, maybe political consequences for them in terms losing their seats next time there in front of those voters. There may be practical or media consequences in igniting more violence or significant backlash, not just against Republicans but against Congress. Again against the government, I mean it could unlock a series of cut of unintended consequences that I don't think any can fully fathom from where we're sitting now. On the other hand, if they were to think about this and not take the action they potentially, you now leave Trump, basically on the playing field to rebuild himself and his brand and potentially continues to dominate the Republican Party and american politics and lock in place a dynamic that gave rise to

this violence and the extreme atmosphere of division in the country. So I think Democrats don't know how it can end up. They don't know us Republicans in the sand. Gonna joined them are not many are fuming, but the complex political question and answer. I think, they're, basically resigning themselves to say a greek and control are part of this. We can make the charge and what happens in the Senate. Trial happens in the Senate trial, but the present will go down in history forever as twice impeached and that's the best we can control at the moment, and we worry about the rest of it down the line. I keep thinking back to the last impeachment, when a single republican senator voted to convict Trump and another republican Susan Collins at the time The aim is justified. Her decision knocked a convict, the president, not to remove him from the

the president by arguing that Trump had learned his lesson from that episode and understood what was acceptable presidential conduct. But here we are, and Trump now faces, each man again for this incredibly grey of conduct and is weighing on these Republicans in Congress, the rude not taken back then, what this led to now which mounted essentially to withdraw to their own lives? I think the question is whether or not they think about it in those terms or whether they get blinded by the remarkably different circumstances of these two impeachment. The last was at the beginning of action year. They were able to say- and I think many them legitimately believed we can leave this to the voters- to decide

this is ultimately a case about present trumps character and conduct. That's what you had voters decide and that that gave them justification. Not to try and remove him from office in this case you you have tunnel like the com, situation where they can say well he's on his way out of office. Why should we be spending time trying to bury him? Further, why don't we move? You know immediately instead of a trial that could be, you know,

more inflammatory? Why don't we moved to try and put on a good model and work with Joe Biden and work to move the country forward you now I find myself asking some where questions windup to press Republicans to account for their views of him over over time and its often a frustrating experience. My thank those who have come out in recent days Republicans and call for him to resign yet seen there either constant critics of him or seem unwilling to fully you know reckon with their their earlier position. So what you see of these next few weeks from Republicans incomers may not look like logical, are linear thinking unite spoke last week. You know when we talk Michael about that brief moment after the capital was under siege and had been reclaim where centres came together and locked arms to certify buttons victory United,

son. It will not be intimidated. We will not be kept out of this chamber by thugs mobs or threats they give stirring speeches on this war. The Senate and talked about the need to pull together talk about interesting times. Associate myself ran Paul. How many times have you here that the mob has done something? Nobody else? Could it be get man ran their great red is right if you're a conservative. This is the most offensive concept in the world that single Person could disenfranchise a hundred and fifty five million people, and here we are not even a week later, but now tonight I'm calling on vice president, let Biden to pick up the phone and comments Lucy and the squad to end the second impeachment,

that's already started to disappears. Nigh Republicans was obviously are saying in a Democrats or just out for retribution than let's forget about it, and trying to forget about Donald Trump present. Tromp gave a statement last night that was helpful. it hit the mark. He wants to move on to a peaceful transfer power. He wants this to end. Democrats would say well, because republicans are now closing their mouths and reneging on their promise, and the only way for us to hear is to hold those who are accountable accountable, and we do that together. That's how we move on- and perhaps this is one of trumps parting gift from his first term- is that it certainly feels

like the country is doomed to keep living in fighting out this divide for months and maybe years to come, thanking equipment it. Thank you, Michael could be back all the way back. In today's changing world, fast decisions also need to be smart decisions. That's why there's workday a single system that helps you in your finance team plan for whatever's. Next, with work day, you can have the data right at your fingertips too quickly. Deliver insights, you need so

can quickly. Pivot, your strategy, people are plans to meet your organizations, changing meet workday the finance hr and planning system for a changing world, here's what else you need ten times reports in the days since the riot, at the capitol federal and Cool authorities have arrested almost one hundred people who these were involved in the attack on those arrested so far, to your old Richard Barnett of Greece, had Arkansas both photographed sitting with his feet on a desk in how Speaker Nancy Policies Office, and three six year old, Adam Johnson of Paris Florida who was photographed weaving as he carried one of policies lecturers across the capital rotunda the photograph replied it in a building authorized to be there with electricity podium. Our electorate

on Monday night. Oh, you for Georgia was asked about the evidence against him. Obviously you have your client kinda building at the time, a break, a guy, I dont know the other off its way, not the Europe. That would be a problem over just yet. The political field well for congressional Republicans intensified on Monday, when several of the country's largest companies said they would spend campaign donations to lawmakers Coup objected to sort of Jus Joe win in the electoral college, hiding the assault on the capital. Eighteen T Morgan Stanley and doubt among others, said that their political action committees would stop contributing,

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