From the New York Times are Michael Barbara. This today, today, president Tromp blows up the g7 in Canada on his way to talks with North Korea. Why he's taking fights with allies and seeking peace with enemies its Monday Juno? single avatar. That issue I am trying to reach a guest, their name mark land learn how they live. EL. I am De L, e r and everything will be marked mark over just came on and set a lengthy,

Pay markets, Michael Michael area, good, we're in my region, you I'm in Singapore. I am twelve hours ahead of you and I'm. At the hotel, where present Trump just arrived a few hours ago, and he will be meeting here in about thirty six hours with him. German. An historic summit in just a few weeks between Kim's Rangoon and President Trump is now often is coming in a letter to President Trump has written before king could break up with here tromp broke up with him. I felt that a wonderful dialogue was building up between you and me and ultimately is only that dialogue than matters someday. I look very, forward to meeting you it's cliff shocking that this,

Eating with Kim Jong IL is actually happening. It feels like it was just a couple of days ago that I was talking to you about this painful break up letter that Trump had sent a cam calling off this meeting it I mean this has been an on again. Off again affair from the beginning, the North Koreans hand delivered a letter to trap who doesn't love a ladder. I would love to see. What's in that letter was really very warm letter very nice letter. I appreciate it very much and things other than we look forward to seeing you and we look forward to the summit, and hopefully some wonderful things will work again. I think that the president would probably claim that it was eight,

brilliant tactical move, but I think what it really showed more than anything else was how personally invested in the president is in this meeting and in a sense it's a very interesting contrast. To the way he dealt with. The leaders of our allies are closest allies at the meeting that he came. The single poor from the g7 right here should be in this meeting. Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting, and I will be meeting- starts off on a very bad, no rush you should be in the media to be a part of the term tells reporters on his way to the helicopter. That's gonna take him to Canada than he thinks. Russia should be readmitted to thee. She said- and you know whether you like it or not- and it may not be politically correct, but we have a world to run added the g7

What used to be the G8? They grew Russia out the tea is. A group is composed of the world's leading market economies, the world's leading democracies these NATO allies. These are effectively America's closest friends in the world. So, for the most part, historically, G7 conferences are a place where America, in its like minded friends, get together and talk about how heck all the great problems of the world. Russia you'll, remember was kicked out of the g7, which was then known as the G8 after the invasion of Crimea you'd, let Russia come back in because we should have Russia as a negotiating. So this is an extremely controversial thing to throw out there just before he flies up to meet. The leaders

NL completely caught off guard because they had no advance warning or any sense that the United States might take this position for this g7 summit is really off to an awkward start, the resident arriving here and go back late and he's leaving early this morning he was late, so the first working session, leaving the other six world leaders gathered around an empty chair, though he arrives in Canada having shaken everyone up and the leaders then sit down and start talking about me. Is it on the table in many? Those issues are about trade, her important subject, because the United States has been taken event jobs for decades and decades, and we can do that anymore. President Trump feels that many of our chief seven partners are in effect, ripping us off. Tariffs are gonna come way down, because we people cannot contain

to do that. We, like, like the Piggy Bank, everybody everybody's robbing and that ends so at the end of a typical g7 meeting, there's a communique, a joint declaration signed by all seven members that usually includes a commitment to counter terrorism or climate change or open economies, some kind of a joint declaration that basically codifies and expresses the ways that these seven leading countries are going to work together and at once when the present a plan for manual mark how who has been a lot of time, cultivating presence from personally says. Well, maybe we will sign, I communicated without the United States. Maybe it'll just be the three six,

but as the meeting and things look like, they have settled down and there seems to be a sense of optimism that the g- seventy seven members can agree on a joint statement I would say that the level of relationship is a ten. We have a great relationship Angela and Emmanuel. I just didn't. I say the relationship is a ten, but that's before Prime Minister, Trudeau gives a new conference. It would be with regret, but it would be with absolute certainty and firmness that we move forward with retaliatory measures on July. First, applying equivalent tariffs to the ones that the Americans have unjustly applied to us. I have made it very clear to the president that it is not something we relish doing, but it is something that we absolutely will do because Canadians,

polite were reasonable, but we also will not be pushed around, and these comment really stick in present trumps cry and he decides in effect to reverse the position of the United States. The Eu S was going to find they communicate, and now he declares its but pulled the. U S out of the g7 joint communique and called is pending in counterpart quote very dishonest and weak present. A trap was quick to respond on Twitter, Eagle, Trudeau, dishonest and weak and accused him of releasing false statements, and that the Eu S will pull back from its endorsement of the G7 summit, communicate

And how unusual is it for the? U S present not to sign this communicating extremely unusual. I mean the: U S is viewed in some senses as the convener of the G7, and so for the? U S to stand apart from the other six countries. It's just an enormous symbolic break with the tradition of this group of nations, our closest allies, it furnaces, the level of the sand and a rift in the alliance that really quite unprecedented in. Why do you think that the president took this extremely unusual position of not signing

the community. Is it really about from feeling that the? U S is getting a rotten deal when it comes to trade and if so, isn't the point of having allies that you all kind of agree that you're on the same side and that you're supposed to pursue conflict resolution through soft diplomacy and behind the scenes negotiations? Will, I think, you're right. Historically, I think, what's going on here. Is that president from does not view? Alliances, like any of his predecessors, did present from actually takes place, you bet, our allies are free riders. Are allies have been taking advantage of us so far from viewing our allies as friends with whom we need to iron out different is behind closed doors. President Trump does not mind and in fact,

Lights and going after hours publicly in turning away from them in rebuffing them and that, apparently, how he's decided to go after this g7 meeting any announces. This decision in the most ironic of all possible places on air force, one point to Singapore for a meeting with Kim Jong on who is not only an adversary, the United States, but arguably the most. Dangerous adversary that we now have you just a few minutes I'll be leaving for Singapore I'll be on a mission of peace. And we will carry in really in my heart- was gonna, be carrying the hearts of millions of people people from all over the world. We have to get Do you know colorization? We have to get something. I really think that North Korea will be they travel this place in a very short period of time, and we appreciate

everything that's going on, and we appreciate the working together with not true. They're really working very well with us, so I say so far so good women have to see what happens So as you're sitting in Singapore waiting for this summit with North Korea, we ve got the president leaving this meeting with our greatest allies having blown up the usual diplomacy and headed for this meeting, is arguably our greatest adversary very eager to make a deal. I mean you couldn't Imagine something more ironic, but Funny way had actually been true of the trunk presidency from the very beginning. The pattern with. President Tromp has been to pick fights with our friends and to cultivate our adversaries, whether its Russia, China, Turkey.

Or in this case North Korea. The pattern is established. His style is to try to build a report with countries that are historically not friends oh pushing back very hard on the countries that are restored? We are friends, will delay back as a surgeon and president of Howard University, Doktor Wean, Frederick too if even are tough his times can lead to strength and change. This is a difficult stormy do it, but it was strengthened in a way that no classroom activity could ever have. I'm only shipper host of the past have made all the difference. I talked to achieve it about how their managing the current moment and charging a course for the future find that made all the

prince anywhere. You get your podcast created by Bank of America. Some are set the scene for me in Singapore. What's going on there in preparation for this meeting on Tuesday Where are you now have the two leaders sitting in luxury hotels less than a mile from each other present trumpet Shangri LA where I am Kim Jong on is a faint Regis at Kim's hotel. They actually erected this sheet. Netting around the hotel, so I'm lockers and reporters and the breath can't peer inside over here at the Shangri LA where I'm staying. It's a slightly less unusual thing, although there are dozens and dozens of secret service and other american officials roaming, the hallways

What you have in essence, is these two leaders who have come thousands of miles to meet each other in Kim's case, but pharmacies ever flown since he began the leader of North Korea, now sitting in what amounts to base camps less than a mile from each other here in Singapore and whose this meeting actually supposed to unfold. What's the plan,

for the summit. Well, on Thursday morning, at nine o clock, the two leaders will go to yet another hotel. This one is located on an island Santos Island which is just off. Singapore is connected by cause ways and bridges, and this is kind of builders of fund the little resort island everything apply. Fanny. Ireland has sent out a shine train path here, even came of her right away from the city. It's a one, stop holiday destination and those in dozens of attraction. Restaurants bars beaches affairs, we'll there's a universal Studios theme Park. Opportunities for youth have some fun in the sun is basically a resort, get away. That's right next to the city and the two leaders will meet at this old restored. Colonial hotel and they were walking.

To a large meeting room. Each from opposite ends, crossed the room and shake each other's hands. They'll be a phalanx of cameras to record the moment, and then they will sit down and get down to business Thank you very much, and what do we know about how present Trump has been preparing for this historic meaning appear somewhat? They can very well prepared. I dont forget to prepare very much about attitude, is about to willingness to get things done, but I think I've been preparing for the summit for long Well, if you work in a president Trump, the answer is: yes really been preparing all that much. This is an equation of preparation. Is a question of whether or not people wanted to happen and will know that very quickly Trump feeling is that you don't really prepare for an encounter like

he said in Canada before lab. How long will it take to figure out whether or not this year, and, as I said, maybe in the first minute that these are kind of spur of the moment things I think within the first minute I'll know how just my touch my field? That's one: that's what I do, how he has no doubt been talking to a day's about the issues involving North Korea, whether it be nuclear radiation or a peace agreement. Free and work, but at the end of the day, he's anticipating this to be. You know a fairly personal got levelling counter. I don't think he's buried himself and briefing books. I think he's assuming he's gonna go in the measure of a man and go from there. You know the way they say, then you know if you can, like somebody in the first five seconds, you ever hear that one well, I think,

that very quickly. I know whether or not something good is going to happen. I also think I'll know whether or not it will happen fast so he's building this around instinct of his instinct, for whether or not chemist sincere and this might go well. What is that mentality from Trump tell us about what to expect to see at this encounter, or I think it tells us a couple of things first present from is going to approach this with a great deal of flexibility. He's already said publicly that he views this as a process is not a single meeting. That's men to produce a definitive outcome. He views this as the first of multiple meetings may be many meetings. The second thing

and to expect is that I think this is really very much about the two leaders meeting and shaking hands and I think, with notable about the way that this meeting is scheduled to unfold. Is it the photo on the two leaders shaking hands in front of a wall of cameras? Is gonna happen at the very beginning of the session, so that, in some sense, that act is more important, is more significant. The president rum, then the subs the actual conversation that follows it, and I think this will allow president tromp to declare some kind of victory or some kind of success, regardless of what he and can actually talk about, because it's the active eating. That's really for him, the most important thing, and so for me as rapporteur. Following this event, the big question is: what else is gonna happen aside from this photo opportunity? Will there be a substantial,

conversation: will there be a commitment on the north korean side? Will there be a corresponding commitment on the american side? Will it really just be the most extravagant photo album? parity of the year. Yeah yeah operates well be much more than a photo up? I think it's a process. I've told you that many times before I think it's not a one meeting deal would be wonderful. If it were, you know they ve been doing this for a long time been a lot of enemies out their lot of lot of dislike, alot of hatred between In countries this will not be just a photo of. This will be at a minimum, will start with perhaps a good relationship, and that something that's very important toward the ultimate making it a deal. I'd love to say could happen in one day, or maybe it can they have to do.

Look if they don T look rise. That will not be acceptable. Markham struck by how flexible and open minded trump is being with North Korea, this long time determined enemy and how rigid he was with our oldest allies over at the g7. How do you blame the discrepancies here. What do you make of it? I think at one level this is just tramping, disruptor trump flouting conventional wisdom from breaking all the rule but on another level I think this is actually his theme of America first in practice. I think President Trump views his relationships with these countries in terms of what does it gain

in the moment, so, for example, going hard on our allies on trade is to America short term advantage in his view, likewise embracing North Korea, as he is going to do here in Singapore. This week, I believe, is to America's abandoned. And if the price of that is throwing our allies under the bus closing up to a brutal dictator, he is willing to do that. It was his view of american foreign policy is at heart. Transaction is interested in making immediate gains he's not interested in some wrong term. Positioning of the United States in world affairs he's really trying to score one victory at a time when it's kind of, America, first in Extreme or America? First, no matter the long term cost, because it might mean that today you know, history be damned,

forsake, our oldest allies like Britain or France, and treat our deepest enemy North Korea as a friend, because that's what seems in the moment to be best for America? That's right, and I think the flaw in the argument is that it doesn't take into account what the law, Long term risks and costs are so in the case of Europe. Taking a battle with Germany, France and England on trade could lead to some long term cough not just on trade, but in other parts our relationship and likewise being too

I'm updating to North Korea in this week's summit meeting could lead to cast down the road, particularly of the North Koreans, take advantage of the United States or a string of along in some nuclear negotiation that goes on forever. So, with these short term, victories, carry in them long term costs and that, of course, the great risk of the American her strategy

and yet this approach to America Furs, despite the risks that opposes it, has allowed the present in our states to meet with the leader of North Korea for the first time. So, arguably isn't it working wrote. This is a very interesting question. I mean it is very easy to take shot said, President Trump, because he is so unprepared because he is so driven by ego and vanity and his sense of self but these very same qualities have, as you say, allowed president present trumped get farther than any of his predecessors did in dealing with the north Korean later so to some extent you sort of have to withhold judgment and wait to see whether breaking all the rules and proceeding in this idiosyncratic way actually produces.

You know and unprecedented outcome. I think it's a long shot in the case of north korean, but I wouldn't it Good it- and I think all of us who are here in Singapore are going to sort of bee, as I said earlier, withholding judgment to see whether this very unusual experiment produces results marked. Thank you very much for being touch from after meeting. Thank you Michael use. What else you need to another is not permit any show of weakness on a trip,

to negotiate with North Korea. Nor should hear this was about North Korea. Of course, it was in large part so because that as tromp was going to say, or one thing leads, otherwise, all related on Sunday in an inner You would see uninstall Tapir President trumps top economic adviser, very Cutler, connected the president's decision to pull out of the G7 statement to his upcoming meeting with Kim Jong Hug Low said that to those comments had made tromp appear weak going into tomorrow's summit. You just don't behave that way it's a betrayal, essentially double crossing, not just double crossing present from the other members of the g7 who were working together and pulling together this communique, you never get everything you want. There are compromise,

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