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Anatomy of a Warren Rally

2019-09-20

With crowds that are said to number 15,000 to 20,000 people, Senator Elizabeth Warren’s campaign events frequently dwarf those of her Democratic rivals. This week, we experienced the growing phenomenon that is the Warren rally. Guest: Thomas Kaplan, a political reporter for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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That's ok! Where nice to meet you! On Monday, I left the New York Times Office with Daily producer Clare. Ten, a scatter went anywhere are lacking so we're heading out of the west for three station we took the subway down to Washington Square Park in the heart of, and why you can't this in Greenwich Village said iconic Park in Manhattan filled with stew. Hence musicians dogs, people streaming through at all hours of the day. It's hosted political, Alleys over the years hosted protests as well we're supposed to go in and on Monday night, that you it was the site of a big rally for Elizabeth WAR, where she was going to give one of the biggest speeches of presidential campaign so far
in our water may even have gone to the STAR Box that you attend. A prisoner of war is in New York City, from new times likeable, but this is the daily today. It's hard to ignore the size of her crowd with crowds of fifteen to twenty thousand people a region. Least scheduled had the warmth eater this town Hall Group three times the anticipated side, who campaign offence. Frequently dwarf that of her democratic rights today in Seattle, Elizabeth warrants are one of the largest crowds of her campaign to day Thomas Kaplan, on
growing phenomenon that is an Elizabeth Warren. Well, it's five September, twenty eight, where I just arrived: emotions wherever about five forty five music isn't really loud. I am Ninety five dollar Barton, Now our transitioning. This event is like interesting. They constructed around. This New York City, landmark of watching the spare part arch and there's an american flag. In the middle of March, and these two vertical blue warring sides on either side of large, just a lot of
won't even milling around some marijuana smoke. Not gonna lie
sit on the reason we were interested in going to Senator warns round his because for weeks now we ve been hearing that crowd sizes are getting bigger and bigger, and there's something unique about these things and when we think back to twenty sixteen, we know the doll, trumps rallies or at the centre of his appeal and in the end kind of at the centre of his victory, and the question has always been. Could a Democrat match that in twenty Twond and it's starting to feel like possibly Elizabeth warns, rallies are beginning to accomplish something like that and that you have to be there and attended to kind of origin Y yeah. That's right. I've been covering Elizabeth warrants campaign and going to a rallies for months, and over that time we ve grown bigger
bigger, but beyond the size, this kind of taken on a life of their own. They have their own rituals, their own vocabulary. They have their own traditions, it's almost as if they ve become something beyond political rally. They really become a defining feature of her presidential campaign ok, so then the official programme gets under way. I mean I'm gonna, give you know about it, evidently the lives of their war. There are these introductory speeches by a pretty diverse group of women and
then there was a moment that construction, where it also like the priest talking to everybody in a church when I'm gonna give you all meaning I really want. You ought to talk to each other and get to know each other. This person on stage asks everybody in the crowd to turn to the person next to them and introduce themselves just like they do in future. There is almost an insistence on civility yet or bring it back in and something we ve seen throughout her campaign and reporters always try to bait candidates into criticising their rights, walls, and she is very careful to avoid that. And I think that kind of attitude you can see at her events and in her crowds as well is very much in keeping with the way she has approached her campaign. You were
after these introductions and that church moment, Warren takes a stage she comes on stage in this sort of triumphant moment to begin my speech that the air, a whole body weight is very energetic sort of very vigorous entrance I am and then settles behind the podium to begin this speech and the first thing she does is made clear why she chose this location. I once again his speech right here and not because of the arch behind me or the president. Did this square is name for. We are not here today because of famous orgies.
Or famous man than she says, we're not here because of man, and she says we're here because of hard working women and then she launches into the story of a horrible fire that took place near Washington Square Park. The story of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire, it was March 25th, one thousand nine hundred and eleven a Saturday and it about four hundred and forty five. In the afternoon, people walking through this very park, looked up and saw black smoke billowing into the sky. The fire department's ladder couldn't reach high enough up in the build
and his brown stood still in shock. Silence jumped ultimately a hundred forty six people died most of them. Women know about these problems; but the profits were making New York's factory honours rich, No plans to give that, and this became sort of defining event that ended up leading to changes in workplace safety. The tragic story of the Triangle- Factory fire is a story about our. She tells the story at the beginning of the rally to make the point that the way to fight corruption, the way to bring about big structural change as she calls it is for people to band together,
That's the point right to this serves as a pro log to the main event of her speech, which is all about corruption. Today, right you rate with money and actions, does anyone else? that's her action plan, and we need to pull it out for what it's this idea. That really is at the centre of her campaign. The corruption permeates the political system. Americans are ill by floods and fires in a rapidly warming planet. Why? Because huge fossil fuel corporations
bought off. Our government, Americans are killed with unthinkable, speed and efficiency in our streets and our stores in our schools. Why? Because the gun industry has part of our government.
Listen to this. I feel, like I've, really understood the kind of unified theory of the warring camp, which is that, no matter what issue you care about, it is connected to this base line problem in her telling of corruption, of entrenched forces of lobbyists, of the revolving door in Washington and that's her basic diagnosis of what ails, the United States and its would animator campaign. That's exactly right. It all comes back to this sort of central broken system that, in her view, needs to be fixed right. I find myself thinking that the most successful candidate always do this. They gave an umbrella message that is highly digestible and kind of punchy, make Amerika great again right except her telling it's kind of make America less corrupt against the difference from Tromp is what worn says next yeah what she says next is I gotta
plan. For that I have a plan and she has lots of plans and all sorts of different subjects: Universal free K for every three or old and for your she has a plan for universal child care. We can make technical school community college or your college to wish in free for everyone to make public college to wish and free. She has a plan and housing and my plan respects the rights of native Americans to protect their lands and being The list goes on and on and on, and I wonder how the crowd reacts to those point, because they have ever experienced so much rapturous a pause to the word platinum. Yes, this is something that has become a kind of a trade mark of her campaign. She says I
a plan and people burst into cheers. I mean people literally by t sure that say war and has a plan for that were a rumour. Turning to you at a certain point and you accurately predicting that the crowd was about to break into one was unexpected chance have ever heard at a campaign right, which is too since two cents to sense yeah, so this was when war and brought up her wealth tax, which is one of her best known policy proposal. That is a tax on fortunes over fifty million dollars, and it's not plan that would make some of her other big ideas possible. The money from the wealth tax would pay for universal child care. It Hey to cancel student loan debt and it would pay to eliminate tuition public colleges.
It's a pretty wild thing to see, see a crowd chanting about tax rate is gonna, become go back to a Trump comparison. Organs build the wall. Yes, you the end of his speech more into something kind of interest. She addressed the question of elected building. Had twenty twinning is about the direction or America does she does? She says? There's a lot at stake. This election there's a lot at stake in this election, and I know people are scared, but we can't she's a candidate. We don't believe in just because for too scared to do anything to choose a candidate because you're afraid don't use a candidate out of fear.
And Democrats can't win if we're scared and looking backwards we set about so that is sort of a head on attempt to address what is the big long term when challenger uncertainty of her campaign, which
the idea of when we can she be from- and this is a way she attempts to make the case that, yes, you might have some hesitation but John over think it don't make a calculation about who you think might be best on paper. Go with your heart, go with the person you believe in. She, of course, says she's not talking about Joe Biden, but I really don't see another way to interpret that other than contrasting herself with what his candidacy represents, right, which, in her telling is kind of safety and which is pretty skating in its own. That's exactly right, I am not afraid and you can t afraid either
So if you are ready to fight then join me and with the message, that's how she ran up the speech, Mr Monti and of a two and a half three hour event that help me understand pretty well the dynamics of the war and campaign summits and why this is becoming a kind of a phenomenon, but it actually, after the speeches over that. This thing happens that the physical really start to unlock. What is different about these events- and I heard about a little bit from you, but it was a thing right. The speech at the event, that's really the first act and to act production. The second
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A vital that people subscribe to the times. Not me ok, so on Monday night, the speech ends, and there are crowds of people who stay in the park, thousands of people and they kind of make their way toward the stage they want to stay for a selfie. And if you're, one of those people, you start looking around and thinking wow. This is gonna take a really long time the slightest along I mean there must be there's gonna, be a thousand people in its limestone. She will have taken selfies with twenty two hundred people rain yes, it's insane our relating to be at school tomorrow. I am so much by we're just gonna, not finished, and then my email email, my teachers, yeah less, is more important
and you see Elizabeth Warren. She kind of gets herself situated her staff gets organised. How long have you been waiting weightings? Is this talking ended? We got right now that we're, Even if we we leave the line now. The next event will be even bigger, and then we won't get our chancery. The sulphur thing has been happening. The whole campaign going back to the store you used to be small, but as Warren rallies have grown, it's gotten way more complicated If you say the public announcement that everybody will get a photo, which is sort of inconceivable On Monday, they make this announcement sort of like at an airport like pre boarding, children, families they get to go up,
so they don't have to wait a long time to wait on this line are now giving you ve got your unsteady keys, People start settling into the line. You start striking a conversations with people around them That's your attempt to give people a week. Yes, that's how chanting playing games getting to know each other. How are you why hasn't here, you're playing time that make heads- and it seems like everyone- is happy to way ass man again itself? It was with one I am holding early over the line, I also join in Europe's Louis I'm surprised you can write em, we're talking to a guy and asking him like how long are you prepared to weaken this line here
well like accomplished my night around my kids, out tonight. My spouses like Friends and, like I M, going to give a two and a half hours, I'm prepared to wait. Another point: there was a guy who some had a pizza box under his arm and it was like to order that pizza into the line that's that's, not something! You see most campaign events. That's for sure, but people are committed and devoted and want to get their selfie idea and what is worn saying to all these people, if she's actually saying something that every woman in time. So it depends she's giving a lot of hugs shaking hands.
Now, you see said that when the stingy mean How- and where did you read? when little girls come up to her. She does a pinky promise with them. You show me a vote of a boar. I know you're ready to go to see the big bring IRAN in this businessman that's the one you want to frame you're all we are talking about with some people. She has long conversations with these giant crowds. These selfies have to go Very quickly, I'll shoot. She tries to have a personal moment with each person saying things. Glad you're here
stay in this fight. See you it goes on and on and on land. Your statements by my friends and our job. She's not taking a break at one point is handed cocoanut water. She downs it it just keeps smiling shaking hands and taking pictures,
to whom you understand like exactly what's, motivating everybody here, so I think Elizabeth Warren contacts with a lot of people inspires a lot of voters and they want this personal interaction with her and are willing to wait for it. I talk to one woman in a few months ago after she met war in the selfie line. She told me that brief interaction was one of the highlights of her life. It was gonna, maybe feeling like I just started. Dump him like a little love that we're gonna, make it we're gonna, make it together and then- and I think people feel that the report of a movement or part of
the bigger than just going to a political event, cheering for a candidate and by waiting in the selfie line by getting that picture. By having that brief interaction, they are sort of claiming their place in that bigger movement, and it means a lot of you when you get it. Neither feta I'm Goin faith in for the worn campaign. This is strategic. This is something that is extraordinarily useful to have all these people who get their picture taken with Elizabeth Warren and then go hosted on Facebook hosted on Instagram right, where you abandoned that you share your wife area, because we need to know that he will be the president and spread the word about her campaign and that super valuable for a campaign to have that kind of organic advertising among voters.
Something I ve really kind of leaned into as a point of distinction with other candidate. So the argument goes the typical presidential candidate that give their speech they, they go to some closed door, Ratsey fundraiser with a bunch of rich people. Instead, she stays at her events. She meets every one who wants to stay and meter and takes pictures with them, and that contrast between what you might expect from a candidate and what you see with war in, I think, is something the campaign has really embraced. So it fully. The campaign has come to understand that the selfie line, maybe just as important as anything else it happens in the rally, and you can see that in a way that their approaching this definitely time is up.
Was commodity for presidential candidate and war and spending an awful lot of time doing this strict leaders, your laptops away, you done done, I'm sort of John I'm probably to do one more like layer of Allah. Shame later, but I'm almost out of barriers. Are you really going to say? I think I'm too state only ends. I am doubly getting like slightly softer my resolve, okay, so it's like eleven twenty, I'm tired Tom I'll see you at the next worn rally sounds great, get some sleep. So in the end to get everyone there selfie it took almost four hours
ass. I left. I was starting to think that this is the thing that people talk about when they talk about the Elizabeth, worn rally as a phenomenon and that it begins to help explain her entire Kenzie. Yet now look it campaigns in the past, getting big crowds and having these big, exciting events doesn't necessarily translate into win in Iowa or New Hampshire or winning at all. You can look back at how're dean. You can look back at Bernie Sanders in twenty. Sixteen were eurocrats right in having a big crowd. Who knows what that translates? Two months from now, when p, all start to vote and a big crowd in New York by the way. What that means
Iowa people can speculate about that but it certainly is distinctive what she's doing and if she goes on to become the democratic nominee, it will have had a lot to do with how she's approach these rallies. Thank you very much. Thank you
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