From the New York Times are Michael borrow this At present, Tromp says the nuclear threat from North Korea is all new reporting by the times suggests the situation has only worsened, since his summit meeting with Kim Jong back in June. It's just November interested a few months ago, north korean experts or a think tank in Washington Start asking themselves the question. What else could the North Koreans have there David Sanger is a national security corresponding for the times

There are a lot of nuclear sites that we ve known about. In Korea, for a long time, there are lots I've been rumoured. But the big question is what North Koreans really have, and is it changing so at the think, tank Manly victory Trot began to think about a pride to go figure out where all of the north nuclear and missile facilities were. They began to assemble, very detailed satellite photographs and compare those two every report. They ve add over the past thirty thirty five years of possible north korean facilities, EAST came from defectors. Sometimes they came from previous older, not very good satellite photographs and they moved methodically across the country quadrant by Quadrant. Looking for the telltale signs of missile bases, usually the you can see tunnel in

who's on the sides of mountains. You can see special DR ways that are large enough to carry these enormous mobile launchers, where a missile is pulled the tunnel in the mountain and driven out road and can be set up to be launched. They see certain kinds of buildings and they were just looking for the patterns to find out how many of these there were. So what did they find? Michael? What they found were sixteen different sites, each one of them with those telltale on the lantern sues the outbuildings. Everything that you would need in order to have a well protected missile site and one of those sites look like it was being upgraded to how's missiles that were designed to reach the unite,

states that we don't know if the North Koreans actually can deliver a nuclear weapon on LOS Angeles or Washington one New York, but certainly working in that direction and even when you say upgraded, what does that mean when it comes to A missile site, but it can mean any of a number of things that can mean that the out buildings are getting more sophisticated. It can mean that their building, better roads and other facilities just outside the tunnels so that they can rapidly deploy the missile set it up and set it for launch right away in the north korean view, speed is of the essence, the faster they could bring a mobile missile launcher out and set it up the last time, the United States it would have to conduct a pre emptive strike, and what does it mean that all these missile bases have been discovered in this moment

means Michael, is that a great deception may be going on, or at least a pretty sophisticated shell game in which the North Koreans are declaring that they are complying with that agreement that they struck with president from in Singapore five months ago, when, in fact, what they're doing is improving or rebuilding facilities faster than their dismantling a few old ones here, and take me back to that agreement. What was the expectation of what North Korea would do? was United States stepping out waving as he lives in Singapore ahead of this historic summit? With can jungle saying or member Michael this, whose June twelve in Singapore and the entire city came to a complete, stop, probably the biggest the magic event for North Korea dream a very long time since the Greenwood, maybe because here you had the first meeting

between an american president and one of North Korea's dictators in enormous task of the present United States and his ability to motivate and to negotiate down from had done. Something no other president had ever done it was agreed to sit down with the north korean later one. On one chat, I feel that we needed to prepare because if any of em preparing all his life or death, that is what worries about the president is going to go sit down and he doesn't have a concrete list of what he wants to walk away, What when he announced TAT, he was doing it because he was such a great Nicole better than he knew tat, he could reach an agreement itself. About nagging question. How long I beg within the first minute I'll know. Just my touch my field, that's what it's! What I do and frankly it made a lot of sense, Michael because

years. We have been arguing with the North Koreans, but not talking to the right person in other ways they say that you know if you gonna, like somebody in the first five seconds, you ever hear that one well, I think very quickly. I know whether or not something good is going to happen no North Korea's run by a single dictator, and if the agreement wasn't with the dictator, but with his minions, it didn't mean, like the president, had the right thought: and when they finally met so we're shining a very important document. They agreed on a piece of paper, pretty comprehensive document. Laid out in very vague terms, what each country would go do and we ve had a really great terms, There are great relationship and the problem that was, it wasn't a very specific documents,

and so everybody emerge from this thinking. It said something slightly. There I would like to express my gratitude to president from to make this meeting happen, thank you. What did the north Koreans think they had agreed to so the North Koreans thought that they have agreed to the United States, reducing the level of tensions formally declaring an end to the korean war. They thought that the United States would agree to begin overtime, lifting this sanctions and the embargoes on North Korea, building up trust and then, ultimately that would reduce the need for them to have nuclear weapons to defend themselves. The United States thought they had agreed to something in just the office in order that the North Koreans would. De nuclear eyes. They would get rid of their missiles and when that was all done,

only when that was all done with the sanctions, in the go away and would North Korea be treated like a normal nation, so they almost had mirror images of this agreement, and it was such a rush job because both Kim Jong and present. From wanting to get this meeting, calling for their own reasons have the follow up. No one really sorted out the question of in what, order with each of these steps, come what would have to happen before the next thing here are unprecedented meeting the first between an american president, any leader of North Korea, proves that Real change is indeed possible. My me he was Chairman Kim was honest. Direct and productive. We get to know each other well in a very confine period of time. Very strong, strong circumstance.

They signed the same agreement David but took entirely different meanings from it. That's exactly right. It's really hard to fathom two countries agree, being does something so fundamentally different. Mean the word agreement does intimacy. In reply to this, that's right- and it was an incredibly poorly sloppily written document, and it was sloppily written precisely because both sides knew that the more specific had got the less likely it was either side could agree to it and did this agreement, however, vague have any timeline, it had no time line, and that was one of its several flaw because it did not create a time pressure and then present prompted did something that in many ways took the pressure off the North Koreans. He got out of sight

the poor and, as he landed in the United States, he reached for his phone and he tweeted just landed a long trip. But everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office goes on to say that there is no longer nuclear threat from North Korea and he says at the meetings can John OWN was very interesting and very positive and point. He was tweeting an emotion as one of his aids later said to me he felt like because they had appeared good rapport because they could get along as head of business partners that that's what the threat was all about and part of the threat is about an intent. He didn't think that Kim Jong on was about to go at ten. The United States and therefore we didn't have a threat that the fact that matter is that the nuclear infrastructure in North Korea was exact,

the same the day after they met in Singapore, as it was the day before so five months later. What from that agreement has actually been accomplished on both sides? Almost nothing think of it. We got our hostages back We got our hostages. The president talks about the fact that both career returned some hostages and we have a good relationship with Kim Jong IL and we have a great relationship with german camp, and we feel good about wonderful. They got out. It has nothing to do with the nuclear programme right. The north Korean said they would dismantle some facilities. They haven't dismantling them. They said they would allow UN inspectors, it may happen, but it hasn't happened yet and they never committed to and president front never insisted.

Upon the most fundamental part of any one of these agreements, which is a nuclear freeze and a missile freeze, so that, while the agreement was playing out the historians will have to demonstrate that they are no longer making nuclear Fuel he nuclear weapons and making new missiles or improving these vessels sites. If there had been a freeze as a first step, then you'd say: ok, then you ve got time, because the situation is getting worse, but president from couldn't get that. Meanwhile, the north Korean say hey what about that peace agreement that President from said that he would be perfectly willing to go alone and sign and the? U S has said we are not doing a peace agreement there were beginning to go down the road to the nuclear radiation, and so, as a result, the United States and North Korea are a great loggerheads

what you ve laid out does not at all sound like meaningful progress from either side, but that is not how President Trump has described. The state of Israel Creations, it certainly is and how the present has described the because he's only told Americans half the story destroying their engine shy, blowing up they ve already blown up one of their victor sites and free has touted the fact that the North Koreans have taken apart at least on big missile test facilities. In fact, I was actually for of every test site, big thing is, it will be a total team to which is restarting taken place and they ve made a big deal. The fact that the North Koreans blew up the entrances to one of their big nuclear test site, but the relationship My colleagues and I have with Chairman Kim and his group is a very good one, very strong one, and I think it's gonna leave to tremendous success

but the Danube resign. These are all describe to Americans in an effort by president from to make the case that his deplore see with Kim Jong is working, and the North Koreans bit by bit grudgingly slowly are moving, are moving nuclear radiation. When you look at the bigger picture, when you open up that satellite aperture in really look across the country. What you discovery is they're closing down a few sites to make president from happy and their expanding many others or the back.

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White has frequently. The reaction is no reaction right, I did go to them and I went to both the State Department and the intelligence agencies and described this and in off the record conversations. People's said to me: look no facilities in this unclassified report that we don't already know about. Of course, we see in all these North Korea's the most studied piece of real estate on earth, its mapped by everybody, so they weren't surprised by this. They were just uncomfortable that all this was becoming clear because of good analysis of unclear five commercial photography, so the greatest comfort was the fact that you were going to alert the public, not necessarily that these sixteen bases exist. They ve known about these

bases for a long time, and presumably they ve known about the improvements they wouldn't discuss the bases with me because they look at them through classified satellite imagery, so they say we can't discuss. It is classified different when it comes to the: U S, essentially keeping these kinds of bases in North Korea hidden until you on earth them. I guess I'm gonna confused about why the Trump administration feels its in America's best interests to proclaim that these negotiations

with North Korea are going well when, in fact, based on everything that you have told us, they are in fact going in the opposite direction of what we were there, not just not going well they're going in reverse and quite poorly. Why wouldn't the White House just wanna fuck up about the fact, because is wrapped up in the president's own image of himself as the war old greatest negotiator, the man who can reach out and sit down with another leader, in this case a dictator I'll, be brutal leader who has got gulags full of dissidents back in his country. But the president feels like the only thing that makes a difference is the deal that he personally can strike and the thought that can play.

Out in the back of my mind was this: are the North Koreans really deceiving us because, after all, American tells you, agencies know about every one of these facilities, or are we deceiving ourselves who's? The Trump administration deceiving itself ignoring the evidence of what's going on elsewhere in the country, in its quest to prove that it singular diplomacy with the north has been successful, and maybe it will be successful. My home, we all certainly hope it will be, but the early evidence suggests that this administration doesn't want to hear about contrary intelligence decision,

The North Koreans are playing had giant shell game with them, and even what is your conclusion? Who is deceiving whom here in this agreement, Michael, I think everyone's deceiving everyone else. The North Koreans are deceiving us about what kind of facilities there secretly keeping going, even while they dismantle so the Americans are deceiving themselves about how quickly at how sincerely the North Koreans will go about nuclear radiation, because therein don't showing that the president's one on one diplomacy worked and the rest of the world may be averting its eyes from both the truth of what is happening in North Korea and what the administration is saying about it because they fear going back to the summer of twenty. Seventeen when president from was still talking,

that fire and fury like the world has never seen and seemed about to attack the North Koreans. So what is the Eu S doing or planning to do about those sixteen missile basis that the north korean experts discovered and that you reported? Does the? U S had any plan to try to worse North Korea. To dismantle these will you know, Michael one of the problems that present from his facing right now. Is that the way that he handled these negotiations declaring success after the first meeting is it is leverage is crumbling. The sanctions that the United States built up over the years have begun to disappear, because the Russians in the Chinese say there's a new and better tone and even the South Koreans have broken away from the United States. On the question of how

They should deal with North Korea, so the president's lost a huge amount of his economic leverage and what makes the problem even harder. Michael, is the? U S. Doesnt have very good constant eyes on the north korean missile probe We in this big five billion dollar satellites that only pass over North Korea periodically. So if they rolled out one of these missiles from a launch site, you might not see it and because he appears to have done a hundred navy degree turn from this. Or of twenty? Seventeen people, don't believe, he's terribly eager to use military force either, and while it may be, a very good thing is that plans go use military force if you're the North Koreans the sure has suddenly come off after many many years. So President tromp in his efforts to demonstrate that he's a skilled negotiator has been sickly negotiated away his main points of leverage, and it's likely that

spite whatever danger. These bases may pose north you will be allowed to maintain and improve them, and there will be no repercussions if I took them State Department statement literally. The north Koreans could keep the bases, but would have lose all the missiles that around them. I don't think that's very likely to happen in the near future. Or Portland here the North Koreans David? Thank you very much. Thanks bike off Here's what else! You need to know that this is truly a tragedy that all Californians can understand, respond do and be very sympathetic, wildfires,

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