From the New York Times. I Michael Barbara. This is the daily today. The next batch of James Commies, memos in call me tells us present that he needs to stop trying to discuss ongoing investigations with call me shares his fears about trunk with a friend over lunch. That friend talks on the record and on tee to the times it's Friday. May nineteen, Michael yes good, he again. Thanks for Em Might Schmidt is continuing to report on the interactions between FBI director. James call me and president tromp in the lead up to call me irish. What is the latest from becoming members

the latest we know is that president from called Mister crow me several weeks after Trump took office and ask me whether he was under investigation and when the Justice Department was get word out on that and call me told tromp: hey you can't the FBI investigative questions? You gotta follow the proper procedures, the d o J guidelines and go to the Justice Department. This is not the way it supposed to be so the FBI. Director, basically stead it sounds to me, stop stop calling me stop Blushingly said: look dead thoroughly. So the road that are established here to call me, the independence of the FBI, was the most important thing he didn't want them to be enforced at all by the president and call me based really said, look there's a way that is set up for you to deal with the FBI and that that doesn't include the president calling him to ask about investigations. Let's

about how you learned about these interactions that you're, describing day after day after you break a very hard to break story like the one that you did just a couple of days ago by the distance of the co me memos most and what they can tell us. Is it the case that more and more people just start coming forward. Is that what's happening here? I think that if you're, a coma defender out there, you on is much sunlight on this is possible because they think they had committed a lotta right things here in the present at a lotta wrong things here and I'm just push in his heart is like and on a lot of doors in that world to try and find out everything I can about the interactions between the two of them. So most of these conversations, I'm gonna imagine are off the record, but recent

you found someone willing to talk on the record right after we broke the story last week about this loyalty dinner were trumpet asked to pledged pledges loyalty to him at this one. On one dinner at the White House, a friend of Communist guiding Benjamin Witness called me, he said, come over to my office. I want to talk so I went over to his office up the street and what is said look I had lunch with call me. In March. He expressed some things to me in confidence at the time that I never thought I would talk about publicly. But in light of what has gone on, I want to tell you and tell the public what I know about what call me was thinking in March, and you recorded that correct So I want to be clear about our relationship is, and I also want to be clear about why I'm talking to you on the record woody actually wanted me to record it to create.

Record, but he also say look. I know this may be subpoenaed. I know it, but he says. Look I'm on the record. I delay this out. I dont want Trump accusing us of leaks. Once this is an elite. This is on the record. This is while commies was saying to me. Given the trunk is, is reading about weeks and that there is a lot of people who, when they talk to the press, can't be on the record and can't say well, National context is of how they know what they know. I can't I'm never going to have a government job. I dont want to government. Job are not bound by any restrictions other than honour, and so I am, I feel I can be transparent. So I should What is that his relationship which ain't going so

This has known combeferre about more than a decade, witness edits this thing called law, fair blog. They have a lot of mutual friends into this legal national security world and which does not consider himself part of comin inner circle. I have launched the June council. We now we're friends, the kid about things which would occasionally go over to the FBI every few months and have lunch with call me and talk to him about you know everything's going to be a lot of shared interest income? He can be a bit of a legal nerd and witnesses one. So they would do that that over national security Tell me how you feeling about some things and some things that happened and I've taken it all myself to call you and tell you about

I guess I'm not anybody surrogate, not wandering information that anybody is trying to leak, and it's important to me to be able to say that, because the president this morning is treated a friend did, you call me about league, will tell me about the conversation you had with with this work as a threat. So what would it did. Was he laid out? A series of things? Call me had told him that really bothered him about Trump and about things it had gone on with the White House and the first thing that witnessed points out so the first of the incident wrong is the hot remember the hub? So let's all this

more rammers. The me two days after sworn in there is a ceremony in the blue room at the White House for law enforcement. Folks who had provided security for the inauguration I'm uncomfortable being they're going to want to go any really didn't want to see, want there to be any sort of sign of intimacy, with call me new dad. Their perception was that he had held trumped get elected. He never wants to have a close relationship with the present, regardless of who it is, and he wants wanted to re, establish the norm that the press, and end the FBI. Directors are none other body. Is there not? They don't communicate on investigative matters at all, but can we realized TAT he had to go? He represented the bureau. The bureau

provide security. You know if you're invited to the White House you go to the White Ass, you go to the White House. Call me goes over there. You know a bit concerned about it and when he went into the room there was a large group of people there and call me sparing a blue suit, dark blue suit and he specifically me that he went to the part of the room where there was like the same color drapes to try any sort of like spent. Try to blend in with the with the background and he's trying sort of blend in with the curtains in the back of the room, because he doesn't want trumped to see he's trying to be trying to blend into the curtains in the White House in but basically blend of the walls, the idea of Jim Comin in a blend into anything s pretty funny, but I think eyes, just scramble elite, six, eight, nine, when you're six, eight like blending in is a lost cause, so he stand.

In the bag trying to blend in with this thing thinking, oh god, like you, know like when you sit in class, I wanna get called on right. You know, being there and really trying to blend in I'm gonna get in a way with our thinking. He got away with it for a long time and then trouble spots of copyright right at the end. Trunk goes over to him and what is described to me, that call me is basically determined not to hug tromp. He's like this is gonna be bad. What he's

It is like their couldn't be a hog. There wasn't gonna be a hard. I tried to make it a handshake and he tried to to grab me. Comin goes in for a handshake. Trump goes in for a hog looks like Trump kisses. Go me. This may Jim extremely uncomfortable, and he indefinitely interpret it as a specific effort to compromise him with a show of closeness. For call me, this is sort of the worst case scenario. This is looking to me with the president, a president who could be unpredictable. A president who call me was accused of getting electing and call me likes his independence and you don't mess with countries independence. If you do, that, then call me starts to

to build paper trails disorder get his his ducks in a row against you. Second incident. You said he was about to get on a helicopter and he is rings and the White House, and the President wants to talk to face again don't get on the helicopter one answer: he takes the call and its trump, and he just wants to chit chat you didn't tell me like what specifically they said, what we talked about was was the tone of it, which was his I very much like the hard way that this was an after two. He proceeds get anyway as an effort to kind of enveloped him and implicate him in prompts thinking and way of being. What it says is that look tromp ass call me for his loyalty. He was uncomfortable,

because he hadn't gotten oil clergy- was probing him for you, no kind of. Can we be friends and would call me tells witnesses that he thought the trunk was really bothered by the scene? Was still trying to win call me over He still trying to prowled still trying to bring him on and win him on. He had asked her loyalty. He hadn't gotten it and now he's going to drape himself over you to implicate you in his in his being, but call me thought at some point along the way that he had trained the White House to keep a distance, but you're also It sound like witnessed makes clear from his conversations with call me that, whatever understanding they all thought was in place was constantly being

Ass did maybe even violated discussions economy has where he sort of Russia's Trump back and says. Look you gotta go through the Justice Department. Come after these interactions, the dinner the meeting in the oval office. So can we sit in their eaten a sandwich witnesses having a salad therein comas office, encompassing you know, I think I've gotten us in a good place. I think we ve got them so that they understand, and they had asked for investigative information. They look. I think we really, you know, sort of got them trade and they know, though the lanes of the road you know they gotta go through the north channels and there's a lot we're not gonna, say, and you have the way. As usual the heads of the road they were getting hey to get rid of going. Much longer. Was it after this conversation over the salad in Commies office that he would no longer the FBI director a little more than a month. It feels especially tricky for call me to try to recover from his really brutal campaign season and which is seen as hell

One candidate hurting another candidate because, while he's trying to re establish his independence after November, either he's dealing with a president who seems to be making that as difficult as possible. I think that call me, as is what his points out, combing knew that he was in for a long for years and that this was going to be a very difficult thing to manage, as he had sort of lost some support from Democrats on the hill, but at the same time had to manage a relationship with Trump and investing.

Asian into trouble, and I think that our reporting has shown that code we may have known this was common in the back of his head and may have known that this may have been in, maybe not the worst thing in the world for him to lose his shop. He was not trying to save his job with travel. When trap says that it's a bald faced lie, he was trying to keep trump away from the bureau and protect the bureau from Tramp, and he was willing to lose its job over at any dead and the person Trump said was responsible for commie losing his job. Broad rose assigned the deputy attorney general. He comes up in your conversation with witness a few weeks after Trump appointed Rosen

He wrote the letter that Trump used to justify firing. Call me what did witness say about was inside was interesting when it says that he sit narrating with Co. Many says: well, it's a good thing that there is no doubt to get rod confirmed as the deputy tourney generally have a permanent Senate, confirmed deputy chair in general and to witnesses Surprise Commerce's Roger solid guy resources survivor? And you don't get it be a survivor for that long. Without making some compromises and I've got concerns about that and would witness said was, is its trump was trying to get call me the pledges loyalty, then what did rod have to give up? He knew what he did. I read that now, as you get asked history and ask a stirring gas for how many times do you get ass before

ring Thank you very much Does anybody have any questions sharp John good on Thursday, during a joint news conference with the President of Colombia, president Tromp was dead. Actually asked if he had ever interfered with the FBI's investigation into possible collusion between his advisers and Russia? Did you at any time urge former FBI director James call me in any way shape or form to close or to back down

negation and Michael Flynn and also, as you know, next question next question. As you look back over the past six months or a year, have you had any recollection where you ve wondered? If anything you have done has been something that might be worthy of criminal charges in these investigations or impeachment, as some on the left to imply, I think it's totally ridiculous. Everybody think so.

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before he wrote the letter criticising did acknowledge that he learned call me would be removed prior to him. Writing his memory. They call me was going to be removed prior to him writing his memory. That disclosure raises the possibility that Rosa Stein could become a witness in the new investigation into the Trump campaigns ties to Russia being run by special council robber mother. I think it divides the country. Trump is calling the appointment of a special council, of which I think we have very divided country. Because of that, and many other things final, the presently today on his first trip overseas since taking office, hills in Saudi Arabia proceed to Israel. Then Belgium and end in ITALY, Trump the abroad for nine days. My colleague behavior meant reports that he doesn't want to go? Telling friends he's reluctant to leave the comfort of the White House?

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