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The Democrats are having a moment. In President Trump’s latest dealmaking with Democratic leadership, he says he’ll give up his most central campaign promise — at least for now: “The wall will come later.” Guests: Glenn Thrush, a White House correspondent for The New York Times; Senator Bernie Sanders, who talks with us about how he’s using this moment. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. You can support "The Daily" by subscribing to The Times.

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From the New York Times. I'm Michael Barbara. This is the day today. The Democrats are having a moment in president trumps leaders, steelmaking with democratic leadership. He says he'll give up his most central campaign. For now saying The wall will come later and so or Bernie Sanders on how he's use this. It's Friday September, fifteenth. Glenn I feel like there's been a honey back and forth the past thirty six hours. So, let's roll the clock back. What happened on stay night. What happened is round two of the Chuck humor Nancy Pelosi, rapprochement with the present?
truck. They were invited over to discuss a series of legislative issues and they wound up, as predicted talking about immigration, Dhaka and the wall and Meeting happened where this minute happened in one of the rooms in the White House residents president too, ordered in Chinese? You can do for you to make out his brother. I think you can order anything you as president. I think The one thing you can't apparently ordering as president is funding for a border while with Mexico I think his sesame can't do but apparently the President eight Crispy? I may be getting this right. I've never heard of this and am a broken kid. Milan time order, inner of tadeusz food speed, sweet crispy beef. And checks humor who will eat anything anything in a chinese restaurant. I don't exactly at my reporting- has not yet yielded what he would order, but also on the menu, as they say, was up also by Canada, Joint proposed
by checks, humor and Nancy policy? minority leader in former speaker to get rid of this issue of of potentially deporting these eight hundred thousand dreamers and also beef up as a sop for Republicans, funding for border security, and surveillance, but pointedly no fun seeing this go round for the wall, Senator humor and This woman policy, but mostly humor, laid out the contours of a deal saying that a wall funding could not be part of it. Democrats could not support that so after this dinner ends and everyone leaves what happens right after well what happened right before the dinner ended, he is Shermer. The president and policy talked about what We're gonna talk about an. My understanding, shimmer. Let the president know that he was gonna, go out there and talk about fascinating that he had reached I'm sort of an agreement now, whether that they use the word deal. I dont know that later became into dispute, but
They all knew what the other was gonna do. That's my sources tell me, then they went out and shucks, humor and Nancy. Pelosi essentially said that they had to deal with the president right after that White House by Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders tweeted out that no, in fact, they didn't have a deal and the press and over the course of last twenty four hours has gone any number of answers this morning, the President, we didn't know, deal was made last night on Dhaka, massive border, security, would have to be agreed to in exchange for this morning. The president said this getting massive borders. We were hit on a plan for Georgia, most consensus from talking with people in the West Wing and talking with people up on the hill is: there is a framework for an agreement broad framework for an agreement and the present- and I think, spent a good part of
say getting people used to the notion that he wasn't gonna get the gun later were right. Now, renovating large sections of Wall massive sector make it a brand new, a lot of renovation where building for differing sample of the wall with one we're going and the wall is, reveals it'll be funded a little bit later. So when I want to run this by you because personally the seals entirely new to me as a form of political report? I guess I'm comin up there now you walk out of a private meeting with the president and you announce what happened and my weary of what's going on here is that these two People think that unless you put a stake in the ground within seconds of actually having a discussion with the president that he may try to change in terms of it is that is that what you're doing
governing my declaration. I love that. I love that. I love that that if it's not said in front of a camera, it's not a deal, I think that's a fantastic waited get it now, what you have here is is maximum transparency in terms of negotiations in which all the major parties and a lot of their staff simply give up, did tells us the negotiation but Morty point the present in the United States doesn't believe something has happened, doesn't believe a deal has been cut unless he season on television, so he has created a coin of the realm. Everyone else's transacting. In that kind of the realm, and by the way Chuck shoe also believes in that of pointed around, and you know that legendary line about the most dangerous place and wash and to be, as between Chuck Shimmering, a camera. That line predated Donald Trump by a decade, and it's just as true for trouble. So, as you alluded to earlier, this was round to of deal make
between present trump and democratic congressional leadership. Republicans, like Mcconnell and Paul Ryan were really quick to explain away what happened last week saying that the press was can too much of it, and was buying a line from the Democrats. Carbs or their spending Does this meeting this week, surgeon that there is something to this idea Trump is serious about working with Democrats. Well, I don't know how how long term his seriousness is about working with Democrats, but I'll tell you this the door has opened, he was in the locked room, you sort of locked in a room with Ms Mckenna, and Paul Ryan and somebody opened a door now mind you who walked in by Chuck Shermer Nancy Policy, but This gives him more options gives a more leverage against them. This really is a good way to negotiate is to create alternative bargaining partners, so that you then go back and have greater leverage with the people.
The ultimate Gonna have to cut a deal with him as the republic, and so this is just. This is smart politics and Mitch. Mcconnell and Paul Ryan are not especially happy about the political dynamic, even if from a policy for US active there, not really all that oppose toward it was being discussed in the dinner on Wednesday. So how publicans that you to reacting to this latest active friendliness between President trumpet the Democrats? Are they finding it harder to dismiss the stuff, I think they are finding it hard to dismiss, because the political realities in Washington point in there direction and have pointed in this direction for a really long time. This is changing the fundamental dynamic. I think the big question here is, and it seems to be a fifty. Fifty split is a momentary bit of deal making I will now move on to something else and forget about the strategy, the other complicating stretch factory in this, is, I think, per
in an trump is very apprehensive about a conservative backlash. That is why you are seeing him speaking much about religious liberty. There considering a new executive order on religious liberty and free since when he was in Camp David for the first time that I can recall the Trump administration they put out picture, the president engaged in prayer with the cabinet That tells me is he is trying to hedge his bets with the right, particularly the release. This right in order to get them used to the notion that he might be moving a little bit towards by partisan deal, making an deferring the wall so we are saying, is president Trump can make pause. Deals that are actually not all conservative, perhaps even further by Democrats so long as he keeps talking, the conservative talk when you start
moving towards this issue of making deals with Democrats and broadening out your appeal really cutting yourself off from your supply base of conservative Republicans. What you then have to fall back on, is coming up with an argument that allows you to kind of unite a coalition. So what we're about to find out is whether or not Donald Trump has skills, to form messages, to use the presidency to persuade people to accept a result that is an absolute in one. Direction you owe an example of this. Can I find a fascinating? The transgender ban in the military is not a case of just keep talking the talk, even know doesn't seem like he's, gonna, be doing a whole lot about it in the military, look with the exception of immigration and the tree will ban in particular he's backtracked on almost every significant promise on the transgender ban,
a general mattresses. The secretary of defence and other military leaders have been slow, walking this. So it seems like the pattern is present. It makes a blustery statement and the He defers to people granularity these policies an end date. The trend that long praetor, his flirtation with Sir Nancy Policy and structure interested in what does? Partition means for Democrats in Congress, more broadly like the fact Bernie Sanders and other democratic centres are suddenly pushing for single pair healthcare, which seem so on the party margins? Are these Denmark to feel disillusioned that their leader ship is willing to make deals with this president and so that in urges them to double down on these Unquestionably, democratic positions to reinforce their idea of the party identity the real crossroads for Democrats comes this policy humor strategy actually works and Donald
is receptive to bigger deals because then they aren't just dealing around the margins here. You know to start getting into tax reform and infrastructure and Democrats become steak. Theirs. They start to own Donald Trump policies. We are seeing is a lot of, I think, does quiet on the left from the Bernie Sanders contingent about do, any business whatsoever with the president? I mean there is a strong, strong, powerful movement within the Democratic Party to simply resist Trump. I think right now Pelosi and are delighted that there in the game they can get this in that and exert influence. They feel that it is a win win situation, but if the present is really serious and true to his word about involving them in in things, there are risks that they pose any could split the Democratic Party in half Glenn thrush. Thank you,
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hold Senator Bernie Sanders it Michael how good Senator Sanders! Thank you. So much for coming on the daily. My pleasure to ask him whether he'd be willing to make deals with the president. Look like off of the thing cause of this president is the most destructive president in the modern history, this country, and I think it's not only that his policies want to give you tax breaks. Rich cut programmes for working families that he doesn't even believe and the reality of climate change, but what really gets the May, as this is the guy for the first time in the modern history this country, who really wants to divide us up playing on the worst instincts of the american people in terms of race, sexual orientation, origin, religion he's trying to do that is unforgivable, that's about what President should do that divide us up and try to form.
Discrimination and hatred. But having said that, he is the president and if he wants will help us of course, the prescription drugs really wants to rebuild infrastructure hell. It's a good thing for the american people and I think we should do that. But you're, not troubled philosophically, by working with the president in promise that around I have an obligation to the people of a month. People of America to get work done, I work with very very conservative. Republicans in the Senate work with other house enough, it's possible to get something not on behalf of the committee. And people what would you most like to work with present tromp on right now? It turns out that much of what trumps said during this cavern or not to be lies, but during
get he said. We're gonna lie the the prescription. Drugs pharmaceutical industry is doing enormous damage to America, while it is true pharmaceutical industries, incredibly greedy one out of five people on the sixty five in his country, cannot afford the medicine that the industry charges, people if we want to work with us on that issue. I think I'll be very, very important to the american people, so we all had in mind. I want to talk, Bout, single pay, our healthcare, because I'm really struck by the fact that even talking about this at all right now, it's progressive idea that President Obama felt TAT he had walk away from it in order to get the affordable care act passed and now radically where Republicans came very close to repealing the affordable characters you know. So how is it single pair is even under discussion right now in Washington, or could it be
I think. The answer is that the american people understand that the affordable care has done some very, very good things. Let's not minimize the reality that we added health insurance. We provided health insurance to twenty million Americans who previously did not have that. That's no small thing, and, let's not forget, forget that we did away with this obscenity called pre existing conditions. I really almost beyond belief provision that the insurance companies had that's gone and a number of other benefits were developed. This result of Asia, but when I think the american people now understand.
That be eighty eight, the affordable care. I did not go far enough in the sense that we have twenty eight million people still uninsured, even more, who are under insured with I deductibles of hyper payments, and that the cost of health care is going up all over the country. Now the Republican said in response. Well, the affordable care act is not working. Hours. Solution is
to throw twenty three million people off of health insurance and give you tax breaks to the rich and large corporations and the american people said that is about the doubling he than anyone to go in, and I dont know that is any legislation in modern history. But I've had left support than that particularly stupid piece of legislation. So the american people, now in a position of saint, ok, portable corrected some good Republicans proposal is totally crazy. Where do we go from here? And the logical answer is what a medic care for all single play a programme. Why? Because Medicare today, which is what we have had in this country for fifty two years, is a programme that has very popular. That works quite well needs to be improved, but it works quite well posing a citizen's provides healthcare for a single pegasus.
Two people in this country, sixty five years of age or other. Now today, the United States of America is the only people not notice. We are the only major country on earth, not the guarantee hookup all people, and I think a time that we end to that and we do that most efficiently and easily by expanding Medicare door. So limited for people back to you, my understanding of your bill and Tell me if I'm getting any of this wrong, want to expand Medicare which now programme for those sixty five, an older and a few young people who are disabled to all Americans to make it their primary healthcare programme program over a four year period, It sounds like you believe that the american people are ready for such a programme, but how and put it climate, regardless of how they work people may or may not feel could legislation like what you just introduce possibly get through, while router
To tell you that I think that under Donald Trump, who just set out a tweet, I guess a few minutes ago attack. Yes, yes, I do he called he calls it occurs occurs, but I will tell you a little retweeted backer which way did doctor say it has president. What's the real purses is your supported legislation that would throw a twenty three million people off of health insurance and give tax breaks to the rich? That's because providing All people you're not apologise for nine years for distracting you, which twitter does the how to how, in this political climate, could legislation like this get through a lot of money in Prague What did tell anybody tell us a club? I bet on the trouble Oh god, oh a poor, why? These guys want to throw tens of millions of people off with health insurance then want to provide help at all,
So why introduce it now in and when? Why are so prominent Democrats on board with you? I will tell you why, because you gotta start somewhere and what we are saying in America today is a whole lot of ass, Ruth Activism. In a number of areas, for example, you could have asked me that same question and so why are you supporting fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage a few years ago that crazy, if my career path in the United States Congress and that's true, but you know what millions of people already benefiting from the appetite is the minimum in cities across the country, because you got a smartphone. Is the party also becoming. Is your party also becoming just fundamentally a bit more liberal? We used to talk about turn the campaign, whether this was the Party of Bernie Sanders at a party of Hillary Clinton and may be its beak
being a bit more the Party of Bernie Centres. Well, I think what we got understanding is yet when the Democratic Party has lost the house, the Senate, the White House, the governors curves and a thousand legislate received as with all across the country. You know it, you gotta, be a war on not the begin to rethink what you're doing, because what the Democrats Europe has been doing clearly by definition, has failed and I think the failure lies that the Democratic Party has become too in Amman, all with wealthy people with large corporations and I'm kind of moved away from the working class of this country, which, for decades on the Roosevelt in the Truman on the Kennedy, was what made the Democrat
body gong and successful, and I think there is a growing on the Famagusta. I guess it comes back to this idea from the election that a sizeable group of people who supported you in the primary turned to press. Trump and the general election, rather than Hillary Clinton because, as you say, They had a larger the anxieties and problems with the system. Well, I don't know all about Burma in every election. You know it's just because somebody votes for me. The prompt me to setting up a poor Hillary Clinton has never been the case. My understanding of something like twenty four percent of the people voted for Hillary Clinton in two thousand and eight and then a boarding for John Mccain President. Now those things happen it. I think what is happening.
Are all, of course, this country, your thing working class people are asking why it is that working longer hours per low wages. Why? Almost all fifty two percent of all new income goes for the top one percent? Why can't that gives support to go to college? Why can't they afford healthcare? Those are the questions that working peoples. Countries are asking of Democrats, but have some good And did President Trump do a better job of reflecting those things it is, you think, then, article we want a democratic even or even you I'd, let than me, but no, I don't bigoted. The boy does I highlight editor: usually the campaign on the base of life I'm gonna take on the establishment and then after elect to your point, one billion as dear administration at any price, an american history. So when you lie it's pretty easy to say whatever you want to say, and he did a lot of line during the campaign. But one point now is not: the look by
It's too look vote. There is a lot of pain in America and we are not going to go forward as a democratic party or as a nation unless we acknowledge that- and we acknowledge the obscenity, in my view of so few having so much and so many having so little but distribution, the inequities in terms of distribution of wealth in a communist country is literally be on comprehend. It is unacceptable and the democratic parties can up to deal with those issues. Senator. I really appreciate you taken the time. Thank you very much. Like you pick your bubbling, earlier this week as Sanders and other democratic senators gathered to rally around the single pair healthcare plan, a group, of conservative republican senators, by Lindsey Ground came forward with their own healthcare plan. A last ditch for to repeal the affordable CARE Act,
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